I love pandas.

​someone who is practical and don't care about his "image" on the roads?

I'm not sure that I would. Every person I know that has had a Fiat will not have another but you are well entitled to your opinion of course.

I'll take Italian over South Korean any day of the week.

Not the best looking car around. Can't argue with what you get for £6,695. Looks quite roomy inside. Fiat though.

I think their EU6 issues have been resolved now

Rather have a Kia Picanto for £300 more.

And better fuel consumption and free Road tax. Better looking too.

Ever driven a 1.0 Picanto on a motorway?

It's a city car lol.

Oh yes and the 7 year Kia warranty :-)

I love pandas.

​It's only 5 bhp less, so virtually no difference.......

In a small car, 5bhp is a lot. Besides, it makes a hell of a racket on a motorway...

I'll take Italian over South Korean any day of the week.

None in Edinburgh

Agreed all around

Where does the M8 start from/end at?

Hermiston Gait to glasgow, Edinburgh City Bypass is not a motorway

​5b bhp is nothing. The torque and weight of the car are far more important factors.

£6,754 at drivethedeal

​yes but the burden of proof is different to a warranty claim. not saying you can't go back to the dealer, but I expect it to be more difficult than a warranty claim.

Plus the warranty is a year longer.

Nothing to do with the "burden of proof". It's the manufacturer/dealer conforming to the Limitations Act of 1980, that sets out six years as the period in which actions for breach of contract must be brought.

used drivethedeal before ,really good so would use them again

It joins Edinburgh to glasgow but doesnt go within the Edinburgh Bypass,

Aberdeen

Thanks!

FIAT - Fix It Again Tomorrow

£7k and still no air conditioning?!

Used to like the old panda's with the fire engine. Cambelt snap, just chuck a new one on. Think even the tyres went rusty on them though.

I have the older version bought for my wife on a similar deal for 5995 almost 9 years ago. Beyond the usually servicing very little has needed done and the engine has performed brilliantly. An excellent runabout/small family car. As with anything if you look after it, will last for ages. I would highly recommend this car (same car rebodied) and is well worth the money. Remember the Fiat 500 and the Ford Ka are based on this.

The Panda is not for every one. We had one in our family and when needed I look it on a 30 mile each way motorway dash to work and had no problems. The only drawback is this is old technology so it is offered at a good price for a new car. This is a 29% reduction on MRP but I would expect them to go higher for a sale.

​Haha I have a 1.0 toyota iq and it's amazing on the motorway! Always on the 3rd lane.

Ah...I think we've found the 70mph outside lane higher.

Panda over the Kia any day . The panda feels much bigger inside for starters .



The statutory limitation period from the 1980 act can be reduced if both parties agree as was confirmed by the court of appeal in 2012 in the case of inframatrix Investments Ltd v Dean Construction

I do know of at least one chain of car dealers who have a clause in their contracts which acts to limit the period the consumer can take action under the Limitations Act 1980 .

Even if the rights under the act are not curtailed if the dealer refuses to fix the car then your next option is pursuing a breach of contracts through the courts This will require you to convince the courts that a breach of the contract has occurred . Which is why it would be prudent to consider the burden of proof in civil cases .This is by no means as simple as it sounds and could require some outlay in court costs and fees to get expert opinions to support your claim . There is no guarantee that you will successfully convince a court that a breach has occurred thus meaning you end up at a further loss . Your chances of success are reduced even further because a car dealer is more than likely going to instruct a solicitor or counsel to represent them at court .And there is much evidence presented by legal academics that points to reduced success of parties self representing when their opponents instruct someone legally qualified .
If your case does not manage to successfully convince the court that the car was subject to a manufacturing defect when it was supplied you also face the chance that the courts may well award some small costs to the car dealer ,although fortunately on the small claims track the provisions for what costs can be awarded are somewhat limited .

It would be correct to point out at this point that dealers are often reluctant to properly comply with the terms of a warranty as well . However if you do find yourself having to pursue this matter through the courts then you are going to find it much easier to argue that you would not have expected the part that has failed to have failed because it was covered by a warranty . You are less likely to need to rely on the testimony of an expert saying that the part in question should have lasted longer . And in any event you are less likely to find yourself in court with regards to this matter because usually once you complain to the manufacturer and make it clear you have a strong position and willingness to take your complaint further they comply with the warranty .

1 question.

Who wants to drive this?

Nice deal :smiley: anybody arguing picanto over panda should consider that panda is a bit different car.... suspension higher, softer and is more roomy than picanto.... Its quite nice car for rural roads too.... I mean driving wise of course. I think all cars no matter how ugly would look are finding their owners, everyone's tastes are different. But I would agree that Fiat quality is not best, but I would not say that Kia's is any better after all its only 7k motor...

I woke up in a new fiat panda...panda panda panda

at this price I'll give it a hot vote. for those who drive IQ at third lane must be followed by some tickets :wink: