​I'm in a very fortunate position of having two rooms and two devices, coupled with an extraordinary amount of laze.

Not when you want to use it on your lap or any situation where a flat surface is unavailable.

With the unifying controller, with a compatible model, you can use a mouse at the same time.

Answer: get a life

This has come up a few times in the last year on HUKD and I have to agree with those that don't get on with theirs.
The trackpad is probably the worst part of it, the buttons feel cheap, the left touch on the trackpad is overly sensitive and when using it on a 27" 2560x1440 monitor the cursor movement feels imprecise.

keep us updated please.

thanks.

got one for 8 quids , delievered to Sweden .
used gift card from previous refund
thanks op :sunglasses:
hope it pairs up well with my m8s+

Ive had one for a year or so and its great. A mate wants one for his samsung tab2 will this work with the samsung ? Thanks.

cheers OP

can anyone recommend a suitable mouse to accompany this?

from the pictures it looks like US layout, is there a UK version or a similar device with UK layout?

A great tip I found is to press the Fn key + left mouse button to disable the touchpad left click.

I found it too sensitive and very annoying but every time I disabled it from the settings it would reset after switching the keyboard off and on again, on the K400r at least. Fn + left mouse button eases the pain.

This isn't Bluetooth and does require the USB dongle to work.

Love these. Great price. Heat added.

I have one of these - decent for lounging on the couch and browsing the net for day to day use then forget it. The trackpad is very hit and miss - for some reason if I am typing something it sometimes adds the letter c to some of my text without me actually hitting that button.

Answer: Do your own research on your specific brand of television rather than demand a spoon-fed answer.

Impossible to say as they are all different.
Works partially on mine but not fully for instance.

I've asked. As has 4 others - no response as of yet. Question: will this work on a smart tv?

I would agree with this, I want one for a gaming PC, but the steam controller is fantastic for that (once you learn it!), this would be useful to get past the login screen!

You have to link the keyboard to the dongle, but yes, it is linked out-of-the-box. You can only link a device to one dongle (up to 6 devices paired to one dongle simultaneously) at a time so you can't put a receiver in two PCs at the same time and move between rooms with the same keyboard. You'd have to take the dongle with you.

because it was work - they not allowed to resell because of insurance reasons

Cracking deal

Does it connect via Bluetooth without the need for a dongle?

I bought this and the Microsoft one and will see how both are. What I read about the Microsoft one is that it has range issues (max 2-2.5 metres) but want to try it myself. After that will keep one :smiley:

Sure it's a stupid question - but would this work on xbox one?

Why didnt you sell it on Ebay?

Decisive stuff!

i just bought the Microsoft all in one a week ago. Is the build quality longevity sameor significantly different between these two keyboards?

They will work from the same unified single USB reciever and you can use the one from the Mouse as a spare.

IMO the K400r is the best one. The split up/down button on the Plus model is a pain to use in the likes of Kodi.
The K400r has pinch to zoom which the K400 doesn't if you need that. The K400r comes in a box marked just K400 for some reason but the front pictures are different. The windows key icon is a good way to tell the difference.

Tesco was selling these of recently to make way for new model stock. I picked a few up for
4.35 each so might be worth you checking your local stores.

idiot here. if i go out and buy a logitech wireless mouse as well, will they all work from the same USB receiver thing? or will i end up with two?

Anyone tried with a Mac?
I have the Logitech K830 and the trackpad is like moving through sludge. Build on the trackpad is fine, just the OS picks up it's movements terribly.

would this work on a smart Samsung tv?

we just chucked a load out to recycle in work

I don't know whether this is obvious... however they aren't full size keyboards and backspace/shift aren't either which can be very annoying! I've got the older model which did the job.

Just sayin' as I didn't notice before ordering myself.

great for updating kodi ... will work on android boxes
and also on fire tv although i had to alter a setting which i cant remember what it was
(but may of altered it in first place , so may work straight outta box :-)

I got one of these last year when they were on offer, but I didn't end up keeping or using it as at the time I did feel my K400r was slightly better with a bit larger trackpad. Unfortunately though, over the last month or two the K400r has been suffering from signal drop off, where it intermittently either doesn't respond or suffers a kind of weird delayed response where if you are typing the letters start to appear a second or so after you press the keys. I suspect something is interfering with it but no idea what. Tried changing batteries and I'm in the same room, not far from it. Getting this one in the hope it will be a bit more resilient to whatever is upsetting my K400r....

Will this work with a 2015 MacBook Pro?

£17.48 November last year. Surprised at the heat. Good keyboard but build quality is lacking somewhat.

​thanks

Heat added! Brilliant price for a brilliant piece of hardware. I use the previous model (k400r) with my Raspberry Pi and it makes things so much better!

This isn't an upgrade it's just the latest version. Minor key and graphic changes and uses AAA batteries. No point in changing.

I have the Logitech K400 keyboard is this one Logitech K400 plus better than the normal one. What shall I do upgrade to this one or leave it and use the normal one what's the difference between both of them

Will this work on my Sony TV because I have Logotech K400 and it doesn't work on the TV

​Try doing that with Excel when you also need the cursor keys combined for navigation!!! But again - this is more for the living room and less for Excel.

Not dedicated, but you can use FN +

I'd say backlighting is more of a 'nice to have' than essential feature, especially at this price. Unless your living room is constantly pitch black, I don't see the urgent need. Sure you may want the lights down/off for watching a movie but then you aren't going to be using the keyboard much apart from play/pause/ff/rw, which you can soon get a feel for. When you are actually using the keyboard for more regular types of PC use you would surely want the room well lit anyway as the often white/light backgrounds on websites are usually unpleasantly bright in a darkened room....

Thirded !

Instead of keep asking, go looking. You'll find your answer
https://www.amazon.co.uk/forum/-/Tx1JXKVZBNK17HG/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza?asin=B00XJ3LVPI

You've echoed my thoughts. I tried without luck to find a near-full sized keyboard with trackpad which wasn't very expensive.

Depends what distro you run on it? What you're really asking in most cases is does it run on Linux?

Someone on this thread said it runs on Ubuntu and my older Logitech wireless keyboard and trackpad combo works on Linux. Generally they just pass all the signals via wireless rather than a cable so if you have a USB port to plug the dongle in and an OS that supports USB keyboards it should be fine.

...this is exactly why I keep asking about the backlights.

Or Wukong Remote (I prefer it to the Fire TV app)

I was about to ask the same thing as I have the original K400r too. Compared even to standard cheapo keyboards the keys on the K400r are not very responsive especially the space bar (pressing on the sides often doesn't register).

I've rarely had issues with Logitech gear so wonder if we have dud keyboards. I use the K400r a lot rather than just for TV which perhaps it wasn't designed for.

Would this work on a smart tv????

I think mine is a slightly older version of this, but looks almost identical - use it every day for my HP Microserver connected to the TV in the front room.

Ordered from Prime Now, and even better yet...had a £5 voucher code, so only cost me £15

​Agreed, I bought some of these for work and they are awful. Complete PITA not having dedicated Home/End/PageUp/PageDown keys when navigating in Excel especially. The keyboard on the whole feels cheap and nasty. Maybe better for living room media, but then it needs a backlight for that.

i belive that the usb recever for this will also work with a trackball(m570), as I have both plugged in and working, Both logitech.
I have this (k400r) a trackball and a rii but I tend to use the rii the most, atm.
Might have to buy either microsft backlit or the k830 to complete the set. and maybe a steam controller too.
I blame Brexit warming of course.

I have one of these and it works well, I still preferred the one I had with a roller ball in the top corner but the roller ball would always become unreliable after 6 months and useless after a couple of years

How does this compare to the standard K400? I have one of those and whilst it's great - it's appalling for typing. The keys have a very fixed (perpendicular) action and the slightest angle means you don't register the keypress. Otherwise great, notwithstanding the lack of backlight.

The K830 seems massively overpriced?! It also lacks the very usable feature present on the K400 (and All-in-one apparently) of the extra left mouse button mounted on the LHS of the keyboard.

Furthermore I'm still not sure what's going on with support in Android for the K400. I couldn't get it working for love or money with a N7-2013, but somehow it works on my Beelink MiniMXIII. Anyone have info on that?

K400 (original) in general though is a good, well built, comfortable unit (aside from the typing) with good battery life and I've never had it drop out in normal range. You might want to keep it away from the BT/WiFi chips/antennae a bit tho, it does wonk out a bit if it's on top of stuff (e.g. micro HTPC). Decent price but I'm not sure how you're gaining by getting a K400 Plus over the original...?

There is a driver/utility for them that allows you to pair manually. It can definitely be used to pair multiple devices to the same dongle (hence the unifying receiver moniker), but I don't know if you can also use it to pair the same device to two separate dongles. It's worth a try though if you're really keen. I doubt it will though.

Great keyboard!

not back lit

does anyone know if it would work with a pi zero

However, you might need to unify the keyboard to the USB dongle on a PC/laptop first - as on my my LG TV it didn't recognise the dongle properly.

Well it's not "just a keyboard", is it? It's a keyboard with a built in trackpad, which makes it really useful for certain applications; more so than a separate KB and mouse.

If you install this and the unifying device driver software on a WinPC you can configure the paired devices pretty easily, so I reckon you could probably whip two Unifying receivers into the same pc, use the same driver to config the kb with both, but really depends if the keyb supports two devices, which sadly I suspect it won't.

Oh yes I do :-)

I bought one through Prime Now this morning. Delivered to work within an hour and a half. Really good quality, worked without any set-up, entirely plug and play. Very pleased.

OK, why so much heat it's just a keyboard ???

Not really, unless you're in the awfully unfortunate position of not having a functioning right hand.

Great device. You couldn't beat it with a big stick!

As someone who absolutely loathes trackpads... no, games generally don't work on trackpads. Even point-and-click adventures can be frustrating for me. The only games I don't mind on trackpads are the Puzzle Quest games. :smile:

But the twin-trackpad Steam Controller isn't abhorrently more expensive than this, and (again, as someone who detests trackpads!) works really rather well in a lot of games, as well as being handy for controlling Windows stuff. If the emphasis is on gaming with a bit of Windows stuff, you should look into the Steam controller, IMO.

Yes it will

It's not Bluetooth at all. USB receiver.

​no

Great keyboard.

Bought one almost two years ago now and with daily use have yet to replace the batteries!

Not great for games but no worse than the standard laptop keyboard/trackpad combo.

Does it come with a usb receiver (to plug into whatever device) or is it purely bluetooth? Need to get a keyboard for my WeTek Kodi setup

No

Download the Fire TV app on your phone / tablet, use it as a keyboard

If you own an NVIDIA shield TV dont think just buy, essential piece of kit with good range

Have to agree with Monkeh here. I have both, and prefer the Microsoft offering. I also have the Logitech K830, which is a much more substantial piece. However, it is normally 3x (or more) the cost of either the K400 or the MS All-in-one.

That's the much more expensive K830

Great keyboard and very good price for it, revolutionises your tv watching experience if you have laptop plugged into tv etc

Paid £24.99 for this last week. Nice.

Trackpad is OK but I think I'll buy a mouse too. You can use the the same USB receiver if you buy a compatible mouse.

Why?

After using my laptop all day, it's no different using a touchpad

Shame these can't switch between multiple devices like the K380. I really like that functionality on mine, but it comes at the cost of a trackpad!

I've seen a review online which says it is http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/logitech-wireless-keyboard-k830,news-47682.html

Is this back-lit?

I have two of these as well. They are very good and worth the money.

No, unfortunately not. Though, the K400's don't either.

Mist Keyboard /mouse combo's in ary form are bad for lefties, the industry has forced me to use my right hand. - so no longer an issue- well for me anyway - just wish the numeric pad as on the LH side.

Doubt that as it needs the USB dongle plugged into the device! Works with Amazon 4K box which has a USB input.

I have one of these and I love them

Does the Microsoft keyboard have a backlight in it?

Rubbish for left handed people :disappointed:

Arghhh... they should go with a trackball and Page Up, Down, Home, End on individual keys... I'm sure it's a well made keyboard, but as a seasoned sofa surfer user, these keys & a trackball are a must.

Is this Blue-tooth or does it use it's own USB dongle?

Thanks. I will buy one for my nvidia shield tv.

£14 for an as new damaged box one off Amazon Warehouse minus my 20%. Tidy!

Cheers OP.

I've owned both the old Logitech K400 and the equivalent Microsoft All-In-One Media keyboard, and personally I prefer the Microsoft one. It's very similar but I prefer the touchpad on the microsoft one. It doesn't have such a pronounced "lip/trough" thing, and so I can reach the edges of the trackpad better.

Just my 2 cents. It's £23.90 on Amazon right now:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Media-Keyboard-Integrated-Track/dp/B00K2SY902/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1473843689&sr=8-2&keywords=microsoft+wireless+keyboard

Would this work with an LG Smart TV? Without being connected to a PC? Sorry if a daft question but would be great to know!

I have had the older version of this for about 4 years now. A bit small for your everyday desktop or laptop use. But perfect if you have a small tv plug in device or similar. I work with as a network engineer, quite often with computers / servers that have no keyboard mouse plugged in. Handy to keep it in the tool bag, and just pop it out when needed. I have left the Logitech unified adapter (USB receiver) on site many times, but you can just grab another off eBay and carry on.

got in quick order one thanks op. this works with amazon firestick?

Thanks

Not sure how that resulted in a reply to your comment Pablo.

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For an fps like fallout, a truckload is going to be a handicap.

Good price

Long time ago I wanted one but decided to go for Logitech M570 Trackball instead + keyboard. You dont use keyboard that often these days...

Ace little keyboard, works well with a Steam Link.

Tempted to purchase, heat added regardless :smiley:

Yes there is a 'back lit' version, the K830. It is even better (battery, higher quality built) but is significantly more expensive

Is there a version with a backlight?

nice find!

Nice, just got a "used" one (pristine item, box damaged) for £14.48 with the student 20% off!

"Windows 10 or later." - I like the "or later" part. Magic keyboard supports already unknown future versions of OS.

Best wireless keyboard I've ever had. I paid way more than this & it was still worth it.

Ideal for keeping in the lounge sideboard to grab quickly if I need to use the htpc for something other than kodi, or to fix an issue with it (it's windows based so can be occasionally temperamental). I also chuck the dongle into the server if I ever need to access that (rare cos usually you can just use remote access) & it works perfectly with Ubuntu too.

Have some heat, highly recommend this.

These are very good keyboards. Got one at work and one home. Never had connection issues or lag.

The only tiny issue is u have to install the driver and change the settings if you need the F keys to be the primary function. Otherwise pressing f will do te volume up/down brightness etc.

how can i get free post? need to purchase something for £0.01

I have two of these, brilliant devices

Good deal. But a separate mouse and keyboard is better

These only have a 2-year warranty, compared with 3 on the K400r (which is otherwise identical - actually, I think the K400r may have an extra button, too?).

£20 is still a great price for one of these. Excellent for a home theatre system, or operating Windows from the sofa.

You could have just bought an extra dongle and strutted from room to room with your keyboard?
I have one of these and it looks slightly different , no yellow on it?. good price tho.

Why would you need two though?

Cracking piece of kit.

very good price