Same price on eBuyer but quicker delivery if you have Prime.
Seemed a good price for a 7200rpm drive, there's a 5400 version for about the same. 2 year guarantee.
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VladTheImpaler
16 Aug 1617#16
You should be especially careful when storing MP3s or other compressed files on these delicate drives, as the data is denser and therefore heavier. This means that centrifugal force will cause the bits to migrate to the outer edge of the platters, causing platter sag, and in extreme cases the drive can explode, showering the inside of your PC with destructive bits.
I am an expert on the subject of Hard Disk Drives and this warning should not be taken lightly.
merkin51 to sam_of_london
16 Aug 1610#12
Genuinely one of the most retarded comments I've ever read on here, and that's saying something.
Hunkerdown to sam_of_london
15 Aug 169#6
Your meant to put this inside your PC, your not meant to play frisbee with it. :wink:
catbeans
15 Aug 168#5
Rather lose a toe, than my porn :confused:
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pedrorq
18 Aug 16#31
Actual technical question: these P300 would be more adequate being used as a "write once, read many times" drive (like where you install software, games, etc), or a "write many times" drive (like your downloads, photos, videos data repository) ?
boomish to pedrorq
26 Sep 16#33
This is will do both but is aimed at gamers & professional, audio video etc. fast read/write speeds.
boomish
26 Sep 16#32
Thanks for this post, this drive is very fast, I wish I'd got 2 now! the price has gone back up btw.
taras
17 Aug 16#30
Samsung has managed to put 60tb into a 2.5" drive - (don't ask how much - cos i didn't look)
jimunix
16 Aug 16#29
It appears not. SSD drives remain stubbornly circa 6x more expensive than spinners. Regarding power, some sources say SSDs of 1TB and above consume more leccy than spinning rust, and generate more heat in consequence (seriously - and don't shoot the messenger).
Finally, capacities are weedy (for reasonable money). SSD does not appear to scale as linearly as simple platters, and even 1TB models rely on a lot of sideband technologies which aren't used in smaller models.
No expert, no axe to grind, just reporting what I have read.
jimunix
16 Aug 16#28
Many years ago I dismantled a laptop drive and was surprised to find transperant platters, seemingly made out of glass or similar. The only 3" drive I ever took apart had quite thick, shiny metal platters.
catbeans
16 Aug 16#27
Yeah, I have just dropped a laptop or 2.5 drive with glass platters and had them break. They are great though for data security and easy to despose of though.
jasee
16 Aug 16#26
Yes that is probably why they don't shatter. I don't drop any of my hard disks out of windows, down stairs or hit them with a hammer. I expect if I put them first in liquid nitrogen, then it would be even more likely to happen
I just use them! Then they don't shatter, EOS!
afroylnt
16 Aug 16#25
I brought the 2gb version a few months ago and so its been fine. So far its handled the denser and therefore heavier data without issue. Weight not really an issue as I find no real need to move my desktop...
simonbrown
16 Aug 16#24
How are they any more delicate than any other drive in a desktop PC which never moves? You have lots of earthquakes down there in London or something?
taras
16 Aug 16#23
m.2 will not be the final form factor. intel are already using pcie 3.0 x8 lanes. The biggest problem with m.2 and u.2 is that its physically fixed to x amount of lanes u.2 can't simply go up to x8 or x16 like what you can infact do with pci-ie cards.
Its shame they didn't think of the lanes issue.
Northerndave
16 Aug 16#22
Oh dear oh dear. :confused:
GwanGy
16 Aug 16#21
Maybe we've reached peak disk? SSD's are being announced left right and centre at fantastic capacitys. And if you look at say an M.2 there's very little to it and you can get 2,4 and 60Tb drives. Is this the last gasp for consumer spinning drives?
beyond the speed increase (not always there) the ecological burden of SSD's is far less, less power, less material used more robust.
What fantastic times we live in, when you can hold your entire datas in something no larger than your
catbeans
16 Aug 16#20
I have shattered two glass laptop disks, they use glass to decrease shock damage originally however this isn't so much an issue now in modern metal platters with all the doohickeys they have developed. So though the glass is better for minor shock or movement while in use, they can shatter, if you say drop them out the window, down thr stairs, or hit them with a hammer :stuck_out_tongue:
CampGareth
16 Aug 16#19
Not bad at all, but given I paid £55 per drive a year and a half ago for toshiba 2TBs I'm sort of disappointed. I'd expected 3TB and possibly even 4TB to have come down to that sort of price. Oh well, it won't matter until the 2TBs fail and need replacing.
SpringB
16 Aug 16#18
3TB is very good for me
xela333
16 Aug 162#17
I trust vlad, he's always on point with advice
VladTheImpaler
16 Aug 1617#16
You should be especially careful when storing MP3s or other compressed files on these delicate drives, as the data is denser and therefore heavier. This means that centrifugal force will cause the bits to migrate to the outer edge of the platters, causing platter sag, and in extreme cases the drive can explode, showering the inside of your PC with destructive bits.
I am an expert on the subject of Hard Disk Drives and this warning should not be taken lightly.
xela333
16 Aug 16#15
Think Sam is trying to promote the light and hardy SSD haha
youknowwho
16 Aug 163#14
I would give up. You are not doing yourself any favours.
sam_of_london
16 Aug 16#13
You are retarded to buy desktops with these heavy yet Delicate drives.
sam_of_london
15 Aug 16#1
Full size drive. Very heavy and easily damaged. Wish it was laptop drive.
catbeans to sam_of_london
15 Aug 16#2
Laptop disks shock easier than these and if you drop them you have a good chance they would shatter compared to the metal disks inside this. These drives are very good for shock due to a few features.
Hunkerdown to sam_of_london
15 Aug 169#6
Your meant to put this inside your PC, your not meant to play frisbee with it. :wink:
xela333 to sam_of_london
16 Aug 162#8
It's for going inside your PC, not carrying in your pocket :confused:
topss to sam_of_london
16 Aug 16#10
Would certainly make your desktop less strenuous to carry around :confused:
Awaken to sam_of_london
16 Aug 161#11
If you're going to be the first comment on a thread, maybe don't say something ridiculous? :smiley: If you don't want to put it in a laptop or a USB case, this is what you want.
In other news, this has been floating around 65-70 forever. Toshiba bought old Western Digital tooling for their 3.5" drives, so you could consider it roughly equivalent in likely lifespan expectation and performance, ie pretty good.
merkin51 to sam_of_london
16 Aug 1610#12
Genuinely one of the most retarded comments I've ever read on here, and that's saying something.
jasee
16 Aug 161#9
I've never heard of a HD actually shattering. The heads are the delicate part. Of course if they hit the surface they will cause bad sectors, but this may not be catastrophic. Laptop drives are designed to better survive movement. I've not heard of any difference between the materials used for laptop and 3.5" drives.
kaishou
15 Aug 161#7
actually had a huge argument with amazon due to this. So I knew this would be OEM but I just wanted to make sure that it was. Talked to amazon through the chat and they ensured me that this is the retail version, you know all packaged in its retail state. When it arrived it came in a brown padded box. Complained and they told me that it will still be covered under manufacturer warranty which isn't true considering 50% of my PC is OEM and i know what that entails. Anyway i have it on record that amazon will be handling the full 2 years warranty if toshiba fails to handle any warranty issue after the first year.
The hard drive itself is really good, pretty fast read/write speed, near to minimal noise under full load and really affordable per gb.
catbeans
15 Aug 168#5
Rather lose a toe, than my porn :confused:
SFconvert
15 Aug 163#4
Not so good when you drop one on your toe though.
VDisillusioned
15 Aug 161#3
This is a bulk (oem) drive. Toshiba apparently does not offer warranties for consumers on oem drives. So the only warranty you get with one of these is the standard 12months from Amazon as the reseller. Amazon should really make this clearer.
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Seemed a good price for a 7200rpm drive, there's a 5400 version for about the same. 2 year guarantee.
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I am an expert on the subject of Hard Disk Drives and this warning should not be taken lightly.
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Finally, capacities are weedy (for reasonable money). SSD does not appear to scale as linearly as simple platters, and even 1TB models rely on a lot of sideband technologies which aren't used in smaller models.
No expert, no axe to grind, just reporting what I have read.
I just use them! Then they don't shatter, EOS!
Its shame they didn't think of the lanes issue.
beyond the speed increase (not always there) the ecological burden of SSD's is far less, less power, less material used more robust.
What fantastic times we live in, when you can hold your entire datas in something no larger than your
I trust vlad, he's always on point with advice
I am an expert on the subject of Hard Disk Drives and this warning should not be taken lightly.
It's for going inside your PC, not carrying in your pocket :confused:
In other news, this has been floating around 65-70 forever. Toshiba bought old Western Digital tooling for their 3.5" drives, so you could consider it roughly equivalent in likely lifespan expectation and performance, ie pretty good.
The hard drive itself is really good, pretty fast read/write speed, near to minimal noise under full load and really affordable per gb.