Cos you'll be absolutely revving the b*****s off the engine to maintain 80mph, thus drastically reducing fuel economy.
iand123
28 Aug 168#6
Wonder if its free delivery to Yorkshire
Ross81
28 Aug 166#11
Available at £7995 at many Seat dealers nationwide. Depending on finance rates you might effectively get a match for this deal. Car comes with DAB, cruise and aircon. Its the 74bhp version of the VAG 1.0 which also appears in the Up, Mii and Citigo. 0-60 takes 14.3 secs so if you spend a lot of time on the motorway you might need to look elsewhere.
moob to Ross81
28 Aug 165#14
I don't really think acceleration is that important on a motorway
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aravind_svu
28 Aug 16#1
Cold voted by mistake. Seems like a decent deal. Sorry OP.
dvdphile to aravind_svu
28 Aug 16#3
I've balanced it out for you! :wink:
malm
28 Aug 161#2
heat added,thanks op.
thejinx6
28 Aug 16#4
Wait, what? this looks like a 49 month (~4 year) PCP for £7777 with option to buy (for a total of £10207). Initially though it was to buy it for £7777! 7K miles a year...
Either way, looks to be a good deal but not much info in the OP.
Thanks tho
dvdphile to thejinx6
28 Aug 16#5
No. It's saying on the road cash price is 7777. The other option is finance for 4 years at 129 per month.
ismailc12000 to thejinx6
29 Aug 16#30
what's op
iand123
28 Aug 168#6
Wonder if its free delivery to Yorkshire
Modmedia
28 Aug 16#7
Hot
thejinx6
28 Aug 16#8
Ah, so it is to buy it for £7777. Bargain!
UncleStan
28 Aug 16#9
For being so honest and decent I have voted hot for you :-)
GlentoranMark
28 Aug 162#10
For a Northern Ireland deal that is better than the mainland, heat!
Ross81
28 Aug 166#11
Available at £7995 at many Seat dealers nationwide. Depending on finance rates you might effectively get a match for this deal. Car comes with DAB, cruise and aircon. Its the 74bhp version of the VAG 1.0 which also appears in the Up, Mii and Citigo. 0-60 takes 14.3 secs so if you spend a lot of time on the motorway you might need to look elsewhere.
moob to Ross81
28 Aug 165#14
I don't really think acceleration is that important on a motorway
muffboy to Ross81
28 Aug 162#16
If you get on the motorway from a standing start, which you don't, and it takes 14.3 seconds to get to 60mph, I am guessing you will get to 70mph in about 18 seconds. Once up to speed you can travel 100's of miles at this speed so if you do lots of motorway driving what is the issue?
skelto99 to Ross81
29 Aug 16#26
Excellent summary, thanks very much for this.
Biggunspaul to Ross81
29 Aug 16#36
What did they use to test that 0-60 time, a calendar :confused:
ReflexReact
28 Aug 161#12
Bargain with those extras
spidernet
28 Aug 161#13
Thanks I'm going to have a look at this my old car needs scrapping and that's being nice
newcastleutd
28 Aug 16#15
Just checked my Edinburgh dealer Western and they have same care on offer at £8795, this is an amazing deal.
Ross81 to newcastleutd
28 Aug 161#19
Eastern Western motor group always expensive in my experience. They sell year old Yaris' for more than Arnold Clark sells new ones.
VanDutch
28 Aug 169#17
Cos you'll be absolutely revving the b*****s off the engine to maintain 80mph, thus drastically reducing fuel economy.
Ross81
28 Aug 161#18
No issue on an empty motorway but on busy ones you'll be speeding up, slowing down, stopping, speeding up again etc. And a a 1.0 74bhp is going to be accelerating hard for longer thus fuel consumption will be reduced.
My own car is the same size, has 133bhp more and yet my overall mpg in the real world is just 8mpg less than the lab test figure on this. Although most non motoring anoraks will be happy enough with this Seat, nicely specced car.
newcastleutd
28 Aug 16#20
Yes I know what you mean but Arnold Clark were asking £8795 for a pre registered car with less spec. Seriously thinking of this for my son learning to drive instead of a good second hand car.
Mankakums
28 Aug 161#21
You can't balance it out mate
wavecrest1
29 Aug 16#22
I got offered the 4 door version at Wilsons Rathkenny for a few hundred more.
I even took one for a test drive - it's OK - you have to horse it and then it drinks petrol.
Worth noting that these are the almost the lowest insurance group out there at the moment.
Any of the Belfast people got any pointers for cheap insurance for a 17 year old?
sydney871
29 Aug 16#23
Voted hot. Great deal and superb car
lumsdot
29 Aug 164#24
Voted hot as its not a polluting diesel
commenter14 to lumsdot
29 Aug 16#37
Ah yes, I forgot that this website is "Energy efficient products" and not "Hot UK Deals". Silly. Voted cold to cancel you out.
118luke to lumsdot
29 Aug 16#39
Voted cold as its a polluting petrol
muffboy
29 Aug 162#25
80 MPH is exceeding the maximum by 10 MPH, the law does need changing but it hasn't been thus far.
muffboy
29 Aug 162#27
No issue on a busy motorway either if the tools who hog the middle lane were brought to book. The only time you stop is when pulling into the services surely? I have stopped using motorways due to the appalling standard of downright dangerous drivers. I use country lanes on my commute and can easily achieve 70 MPG if unhindered by other traffic, however if I end up following other drivers this falls to 55 MPG as they do not read the road ahead and constantly brake and accelerate all the time. I am referring here to drivers who do the same commute every day, hence they know the road but still fail miserably in their attempt to drive along it. Slightest kink in the road....stamp on the brakes, oncoming vehicle....stamp on the brakes, going straight on at a roundabout....indicate left, an utter nightmare driving behind such idiots!
jonspurs
29 Aug 16#28
If anyone does get this car or actually drives any car often on dual carriageways or motorways, please keep to the left unless overtaking. Why? Because... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4oqfodY2Lz0
(Watch it in a mirror)
poolman
29 Aug 162#29
LOL...completely agree mate, brake...brake...brake...just a sign of a poor driver with zero concentration....mind, they are usually doing their hair in the mirror, sending a tweet, fiddling with the radio etc etc
muffboy
29 Aug 16#31
Do you know what "pre-op" is?
poolman
29 Aug 16#32
The spec on this is truly staggering for the price! Anyone rang to confirm the deal?
Car deal of the year if confirmed......
Modmedia to poolman
29 Aug 16#35
Yes it's confirmed! :smiley:
Askrulous
29 Aug 16#33
Seems like a good price for a well specced little motor - heat from my seat in Ibiza
J1135
29 Aug 16#34
Cracking price for a little run around :smiley:
Uridium
29 Aug 16#38
Depends on gear ratios really doesn't it......
At one time I drove a 75hp Astra 1.7tdi for years...done 10's of thousands of motorway miles and it was fine
IRONM4N_UK
29 Aug 161#40
Had diesels for 11 years, still drive one for work.
Recent car I decided as my personal miles drops to about 5k pa that the diesel wasn't going to be running econimically on local trips or justify the £1300 extra it would cost to buy.
Now have a 1.2, 3 cylinder, 130bhp PSA Puretech engine
It's a joyous drive, ok only 9.9sec 0-60 but the turbo kick still has all the fun of the diesel without the hassle of the diesel adblue issues I have on the company Mercedes diesel .
I advocated diesel for years, now petrol has come so far it's a no brainer.
joehart2
29 Aug 16#41
i agree, petrol is the way to go unless your doing £15,000 miles plus and even then as diesels are incredibly complicated, they are money pits once they turn 304 years old with turbos, injectors, DMFs, DPFs, more likely to clog up EGR valves, etc.
pus diesels are more expensive to buy new, heavier and always more expensive to insure compared to petrol versions of the same model.
IRONM4N_UK to joehart2
29 Aug 16#46
I can certainly agree, I had injector faults all the time on a Mercedes doing 25k a year, it was an automatic and the extra weight also meant it munched through front tyres and brake pads :-(
That said I didn't pay for them :-)
Kept the boys at ATS happy!
toonsquirel to joehart2
29 Aug 161#48
To be fair most cars will be expensive to run after 304 years.. Also £15000 miles must be around 150,000 miles at about 10p per mile so if your doing that many a year for 304 years I don't think any car will last..
118luke to joehart2
30 Aug 16#56
New generation petrols are sharing more and more technology with Diesels than you realise.
New petrol cars are commonly sold with turbos these days to increase efficiency. And there is strong talk of Particulate filters being fitted to new petrols in the very near future due to the new petrol engine GDI technology emitting high levels of particulates (much higher than diesels in fact).
Diesels are more expensive to buy yes, but they hold their value better too so you wont lose out when it comes to reselling. Coupled with higher fuel efficiency and power combination, i cant see the advantage of a petrol. Road tax is much lower too.
I've yet to come across a petrol (not a hybrid) that offers the same performance and fuel economy of my diesel Mondeo. Not sure your right either about diesels being more expensive to insure either, A turbo petrol will most certainly be more expensive to insure than a Turbo Diesel.
acj7745
29 Aug 16#42
A little engine flogs its heart out at motorway speeds. 3.5k rpm vs sub 2k rpm for my 320cdi.
Uridium
29 Aug 161#43
The Polo 1.0 has a 6 speed manual so it's actually about [email protected]..
Dunno about the Seat though..perhaps the same
akdeal
29 Aug 16#44
The Polo 1.0 6 speed is a direct injection turbo charged engine, so has completely different torque characteristics. It will therefore have much higher gearing (meaning lower rpm) than this 1.0 non-turbo 5-speed Seat.
IRONM4N_UK
29 Aug 161#45
I would guess the Ibiza as a VAG car probably runs the same drive train so about the same as the polo.
My 1.2 puretech sat at 2.5k rpm in France at 135kmh which is 85mph.
I changed to diesel because at the time it made sense, now it doesn't, I've had more diesel related issues with cars than other faults too.
Petrols just work it seems, ironic as I always thought diesels more reliable, I think the old school ones before 2005 are, the new breed of diesels are just temperamental beasts
soldierboy001
29 Aug 16#47
You obviously don't drive on the UK's motorways, that go up and down as you move about the country, you try getting up Watford gap incline north bound in this car without changing down.
666bandit666
29 Aug 16#49
Why buy when you can lease........
IRONM4N_UK to 666bandit666
29 Aug 161#51
If it appreciates buy it, if it depreciates then lease it.
All within reason of course, an £8k runaround, if you get 7 years out of it then you will have had your money's worth,. £8k in the bank earns do little interest nowadays...
Uridium to 666bandit666
29 Aug 161#52
Why lease when you can buy.....
Zontes
29 Aug 164#50
I have a Vauxhall with a 1 litre, 3 cylinder, normally aspirated engine outputting a magnificent 64 BHP! I also have a turbo diesel outputting 158 BHP. Both of them drive effortlessly on the motorway. Granted the diesel gets up to speed much quicker and sits at 80'ish at less than 2000 RPM. The smaller petrol needs some more use of the gears, but will cruise at 80'ish, yes at twice the RPM, and still return 52 MPG. Yes a smaller engine needs to work harder, but it is still a smaller engine and only capable of taking in so much fuel.
Where I find the diesels power and torque at a premium is when overtaking on trunk roads, not needed on the motorway as passing is much easier on a motorway. So anyone considering this car should not listen too much to the boy racers. In the real world this car is just fine.
Too much **** being spouted on this topic.
muffboy
29 Aug 16#53
Why lease or buy when you can steal?
ismailc12000
29 Aug 16#54
no
tibby
29 Aug 161#55
I'd have this but it's too far away. Anyone know a dealer which price matches?
ssusie1 to tibby
30 Aug 16#61
In South Yorkshire also and I'd be interested in knowing if a dealer would price match.
joehart2
30 Aug 16#57
a couple of points
1. In the majority of modern small petrol turbo engines, the turbos have greater tolerance compared to the turbos found on modern diesels. and are less prone to clogging as petrol ios a far better lubricant than diesel.
2. the only company planning on fitting a DPF to their turbo petrols are VAG (audi, VW, seat and skoda) - this is because their technology is not as advanced as others, mazda have already stated their would never be a need for a DPF on their petrol engines.
3. diesle only hold their value better because consumer demand hasn't full changed, but it is changing and there was an article recently in autoexpress how people are now starting to avoid diesels, and petrol is now the prefered choice for the first time in the past 6 years.
4. road tax on modern petrol engines is just as low as diesels. the government are rumored to be announcing a tax increase on diesel engines in next months autumn statement.
5. a new ford mondeo
1.0T 125ps EcoBoost Zetec Nav 5dr - insurance group 17
2.0TDCi 150ps Zetec Nav 5dr - insurance group 23
petrol is better than diesel unless your doing big mileages.
akdeal
30 Aug 161#58
Diesel is a type of oil and quite a good lubricant. Petrol is not a lubricant.
soldierboy001
30 Aug 16#59
Where on earth do you get that petrol is a better lubricant than diesel, petrol has no lubricating propreties at all and is used for breaking down oily substances in cleaning.
Just makes the rest of your post look stupid.
kashif18
30 Aug 16#60
Intrested in selling ur car insted of scrapping it?
poolman
30 Aug 16#62
Get on the phone and ring a few SEAT dealers?!
steviep23
31 Aug 16#63
had a look at this last night , nice little car.
can confirm 3 door blue £7777
5 door £8250
Modmedia
31 Aug 16#64
DPF stands for Diesel Particulate Filter. I can inform you with absolute 100% certainty that no manufacturer will fit a DPF to a Petrol engined car.
ssusie1
31 Aug 16#65
Have done and no they wont - that's why I asked if anyone on here knew..........................
poolman
1 Sep 16#66
Fair enough. Cheap Ryanair flight to Belfast it is then!
lucasmeister
1 Sep 16#67
Went for a brand new from factory Ibiza FR 150 for £12k from Drive the Deal
dealfinderwanter
2 Sep 16#68
excellent deal. I was looking between this or the Hyundai i10 (Yes, I dont need a fast expensive car to squish on UK 30mph congested roads to compensate for all those things that lack in my life)
This has certainly got more kit.
Good Find!
joehart2
4 Sep 16#69
i know and of course.
but VW plan to introduce petrol equivalents in their cars from next year.
another good reason to avoid anything made by the VAG group.
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Either way, looks to be a good deal but not much info in the OP.
Thanks tho
My own car is the same size, has 133bhp more and yet my overall mpg in the real world is just 8mpg less than the lab test figure on this. Although most non motoring anoraks will be happy enough with this Seat, nicely specced car.
I even took one for a test drive - it's OK - you have to horse it and then it drinks petrol.
Worth noting that these are the almost the lowest insurance group out there at the moment.
Any of the Belfast people got any pointers for cheap insurance for a 17 year old?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4oqfodY2Lz0
(Watch it in a mirror)
Car deal of the year if confirmed......
At one time I drove a 75hp Astra 1.7tdi for years...done 10's of thousands of motorway miles and it was fine
Recent car I decided as my personal miles drops to about 5k pa that the diesel wasn't going to be running econimically on local trips or justify the £1300 extra it would cost to buy.
Now have a 1.2, 3 cylinder, 130bhp PSA Puretech engine
It's a joyous drive, ok only 9.9sec 0-60 but the turbo kick still has all the fun of the diesel without the hassle of the diesel adblue issues I have on the company Mercedes diesel .
I advocated diesel for years, now petrol has come so far it's a no brainer.
pus diesels are more expensive to buy new, heavier and always more expensive to insure compared to petrol versions of the same model.
That said I didn't pay for them :-)
Kept the boys at ATS happy!
New petrol cars are commonly sold with turbos these days to increase efficiency. And there is strong talk of Particulate filters being fitted to new petrols in the very near future due to the new petrol engine GDI technology emitting high levels of particulates (much higher than diesels in fact).
Diesels are more expensive to buy yes, but they hold their value better too so you wont lose out when it comes to reselling. Coupled with higher fuel efficiency and power combination, i cant see the advantage of a petrol. Road tax is much lower too.
I've yet to come across a petrol (not a hybrid) that offers the same performance and fuel economy of my diesel Mondeo. Not sure your right either about diesels being more expensive to insure either, A turbo petrol will most certainly be more expensive to insure than a Turbo Diesel.
Dunno about the Seat though..perhaps the same
My 1.2 puretech sat at 2.5k rpm in France at 135kmh which is 85mph.
I changed to diesel because at the time it made sense, now it doesn't, I've had more diesel related issues with cars than other faults too.
Petrols just work it seems, ironic as I always thought diesels more reliable, I think the old school ones before 2005 are, the new breed of diesels are just temperamental beasts
All within reason of course, an £8k runaround, if you get 7 years out of it then you will have had your money's worth,. £8k in the bank earns do little interest nowadays...
Where I find the diesels power and torque at a premium is when overtaking on trunk roads, not needed on the motorway as passing is much easier on a motorway. So anyone considering this car should not listen too much to the boy racers. In the real world this car is just fine.
Too much **** being spouted on this topic.
1. In the majority of modern small petrol turbo engines, the turbos have greater tolerance compared to the turbos found on modern diesels. and are less prone to clogging as petrol ios a far better lubricant than diesel.
2. the only company planning on fitting a DPF to their turbo petrols are VAG (audi, VW, seat and skoda) - this is because their technology is not as advanced as others, mazda have already stated their would never be a need for a DPF on their petrol engines.
3. diesle only hold their value better because consumer demand hasn't full changed, but it is changing and there was an article recently in autoexpress how people are now starting to avoid diesels, and petrol is now the prefered choice for the first time in the past 6 years.
4. road tax on modern petrol engines is just as low as diesels. the government are rumored to be announcing a tax increase on diesel engines in next months autumn statement.
5. a new ford mondeo
1.0T 125ps EcoBoost Zetec Nav 5dr - insurance group 17
2.0TDCi 150ps Zetec Nav 5dr - insurance group 23
petrol is better than diesel unless your doing big mileages.
Just makes the rest of your post look stupid.
can confirm 3 door blue £7777
5 door £8250
This has certainly got more kit.
Good Find!
but VW plan to introduce petrol equivalents in their cars from next year.
another good reason to avoid anything made by the VAG group.