I know this isn't super cheap but I'm looking for a good tele but i can't get it over 42" as it won't fit.. and i want a good 4k curved TV and been looking for weeks and this seems a good price and I'm thinking of buying it but looking for opinions really
Save £30 off the marked price. Enter code TVSAVE30. Offer also available in store and for reserve and collect orders. (discount applied in store)
+ Possible 10% cashback on quidco
4k Ultra HD picture is up to 4 times the resolution of HD
HDR displays brighter colours and greater contrast
Access 4k content on Netflix & Amazon Prime
Tuner: Freeview HD
Connectivity: HDMI x 3
Technical specifications for SAMSUNG UE40KU6100 Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR 40" Curved LED TV
SCREEN
Screen technology LED bottom lit
4k HDR Yes
Screen size 40"
Curved radius 3000 mm
Resolution 3840 x 2160
PICTURE QUALITY
Processing rate 1400 PQI
Dynamic contrast ratio Mega
4k Ultra HD compatibility - 4K Upscaling picture enhancement
- 4K HDR
SMART
Smart TV services - Catch up TV: BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, All 4, My5
- Streaming: Netflix 4K, Amazon Prime 4K
- App store: Samsung TV Apps
- Custom homepage
- Full internet browser
- Social media: Facebook, Twitter, YouTube
- Gaming apps
Multimedia functions Screen mirroring
Smartphone app Yes - Samsung SmartThings
CONNECTIVITY
WiFi Built-in WiFi
Ethernet Yes
Connections - HDMI x 3
- USB 2.0 x 2
TUNER
TV tuner DVB-T2 Freeview HD Tuner
AUDIO
Audio power 20 W
Sound enhancement Dolby Digital Plus
FEATURES
Remote control Yes
VESA wall mount dimensions 200 x 200
Table-top stand Yes
Other features Sleep timer
ENERGY CONSUMPTION
Energy efficiency class A
On-mode power consumption 62 W
Annual power consumption 86 kWh
GENERAL
Colour Black
Internal menu languages 27 languages
Box contents - Samsung UE40KU6100 Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR 40" Curved LED TV
- Standard remote control
- VESA wall mount support
- Mini wall mount support
- User manual
- E-manual
- AC power cable
- Battery
Dimensions - Unboxed: 536.4 x 918.5 x 104.2 mm (H x W x D)
- Unboxed with stand: 599.5 x 918.5 x 288 mm (H x W x D)
- Boxed: 620 x 1136 x 170 mm (H x W x D)
Weight - Unboxed: 8.1 kg
- Unboxed with stand: 9 kg
- Boxed: 12.85 kg
Guarantee 1 year
Top comments
GazmoX
31 Aug 1630#1
AndiTails
31 Aug 1618#7
4k on a curved 40in screen is pretty pointless.
In order for the curve to not distort the image, the optimum viewing distance is the curvature radius, which on this set is 3000mm, or 3 metres.
However, in order to visually see the difference between 4k and 1080p on a 40in set, that's actually ~1-1.5 metres.
So either the 4k is pointless as you won't actually be able to see the difference, or you'll sit too close and the curve will distort your view of the image.
devlino
31 Aug 1611#3
Absolutely no need to curve a TV, just a ridiculous marketing gimmick
chromosome17 to craigdobson507
31 Aug 163#19
Lol the tv is at fault?....?..
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GazmoX
31 Aug 1630#1
hcc27 to GazmoX
31 Aug 163#15
And the anti-curve glasses that you need for this:
Not quite correct, especially when you look at OLED - viewing angles are far superior to LCD VA panels which are around 40 degrees...
They also reduce reflections from artificial and natural light sources.
Mortis123 to GazmoX
31 Aug 16#34
I'm th eonly one allowed to write mine. :wink:
LOUGHBORO GUY
31 Aug 16#2
Which Best Buy
devlino
31 Aug 1611#3
Absolutely no need to curve a TV, just a ridiculous marketing gimmick
ronaldmacdonald to devlino
31 Aug 16#4
Dunno about that, I think the viewing angles are pretty good - and a decent picture as well
ThunderBolt to devlino
31 Aug 16#45
There is one ideal scenario. Bedroom telly. For the bedridden.
big willy style
31 Aug 163#5
The majority of people that say curved TVs is a gimmick are the people who have never experience one!!
10dulkar to big willy style
31 Aug 163#11
the majority of people who say a curved tv is not a gimmick are people who have bought one and are now convinced how good it is because they have spent the money...
Technohunter
31 Aug 161#6
This looks like the perfect size for a PC monitor so viewing angle will be a non-issue. I can't seem to find a single review that mentions it's input lag though.
yanick to Technohunter
31 Aug 16#12
Like Technohunter, I'd be interested in any review that tests this TV as a monitor and / or provides more details on the specs. It only says HDMI; which version (2.0 is needed to get 4k @ 60Hz). Does it have 4:4:4 chroma sub sampling? What's the input lag?
AndiTails
31 Aug 1618#7
4k on a curved 40in screen is pretty pointless.
In order for the curve to not distort the image, the optimum viewing distance is the curvature radius, which on this set is 3000mm, or 3 metres.
However, in order to visually see the difference between 4k and 1080p on a 40in set, that's actually ~1-1.5 metres.
So either the 4k is pointless as you won't actually be able to see the difference, or you'll sit too close and the curve will distort your view of the image.
khush01 to AndiTails
31 Aug 161#20
damn, that's some good research :confused::smile:
UncleStan to AndiTails
31 Aug 16#39
I am sure this outputs a decent quality picture and would be nice as an overgrown monitor or such but agree with all of the above. Op you are better off buying a decent 40" model for less money and avoiding the added problem of screen reflection. Curved Tv's are a bit of a gimmick but on larger sets can give results!
Has anyone noticed that Gru in Dispicable Me had a curved TV and that was in 2010 some 4 years before they came to market.
Hondo to fishmaster
31 Aug 16#32
Errr No!!.... :smiley:
dodgymix
31 Aug 16#10
good to see Samsung now have Wifi built in
The samsung dongles are £35+ which you need to factor in for some TVs
Roderz to dodgymix
1 Sep 16#51
???
They have had wifi for ages - apart for some low end sets,
Got a 5 yr old set myself with wifi (old 46D7000)
caddyroo
31 Aug 161#13
I have the slightly bigger version of this one, the picture is amazing for still images. Still good for moving stuff but you can detect some degradation on the picture quality when the motion begins to ramp up.
craigdobson507
31 Aug 16#14
I have a Samsung Curved TV and wouldn't get another one. The reflection from the window makes it un-watchable if your sitting directly in front.
craigdobson507 to craigdobson507
31 Aug 16#16
that should of said if your NOT sitting directly in front.
chromosome17 to craigdobson507
31 Aug 163#19
Lol the tv is at fault?....?..
msharif911
31 Aug 16#17
Thanks for Posting OP. I've been meaning to get one of these ever since they first came out. But the one I want (60") is still nearly the same price as it was then!
mashcogs to msharif911
31 Aug 161#24
No problem :smiley:
misterjoint
31 Aug 16#18
I've been looking at the similar model KU6400 (49") but the 60hz refresh rate concerns me as I've read movie judder will be present. This model will suffer from a similar problem too, how bad would it be? Is it only worth sticking to 120hz TV's?
bleachedsmiles
31 Aug 16#21
How do you get Netflix 4k streaming? I've a 4k tv with Netflix on and that doesnt stream 4k.
Amazon only have a few programs still that are 4k.
Aeschylus to bleachedsmiles
31 Aug 16#22
You have to pay extra.....there is a reason these companies don't have a lot of 4K....not only does it use a boat load of bandwidth but 4K take up is still slow
Turker
31 Aug 16#23
It's not 4K, but not bad
ryanlion69
31 Aug 16#25
I tempted by this but what's the curved screen about/benefits?
dodgymix
31 Aug 16#26
is there any point buying 4k presently as no tv channel is 4k (is it) with only a small selection of HD channels presently.
Not really seen many 4k blurays either
presumably will be 5-10Y before it takes off and by then 4k tvs will be half the present price
pimpMe to dodgymix
31 Aug 16#27
Look up "Sky Q" on google, its already broadcasting 4k..
Tequila
31 Aug 161#29
Curved TVs is becomming obsolete already. :smirk:
Hence the price cuts.
And if you go to show rooms the most top of the range,premium TVs are flat ones not curved.
it was a purely commercial gimmick that lasted very short time with zero benefit.
GazmoX
31 Aug 162#30
No they don't. The reflection gets trapped by the screen, and as opposed to a seeing a simple, mirror type refection, the reflection goes from one side of the screen to the other, unless you are sitting directly in front of it that is. That's real world experiences (and regrets), not marketing speak.
Look at the image below to see how the reflection of the lamp shade is ghosted across the entire width of the TV (not my image, I had to go back to flat!)
ro53ben
31 Aug 162#31
People do talk some nonsense on here. Reductions are purely because the first range of curved TVs is now end of life, new models are coming in to replace.
Some thoughts:
1) Anditails is right - this TV is pretty pointless.
2) 4k is pretty pointless in your average living room unless you're on upwards of about 55 inches.
3) HDR should make a difference at any size. The extra colour depth and contrast is more of value on a smaller TV than the actual resolution.
4) Curved TVs suit some deployments better than others. I went from a 46" flat plasma to a 55" curved OLED and the table lamp reflection that always annoyed me has now gone. This is a combination of the curved surface and the OLED panel being less reflective.
5) Viewing angle on all Samsung TVs is poor, curved or flat. OK for people who live alone but not recommend for a family set-up. Straight on they give a better picture than many equivalents but as soon as you move to the side they are worst in class.
Madzon
31 Aug 161#33
I picked up 6 of these and have them encircled around my toilet. Its a very immersive experience.
JayPed
31 Aug 16#35
good price,shame it's curved.I cannot stand curved TVs.pointless gimmick.
They absolutely do - I've had both an LG 55EC930V (OLED) and a Panasonic 55CX802 (LED) - both premium TVs. The LG was far superior to the Panasonic and both were positioned in the same area - lighting in same area too. I'm thinking it may have something to do with OLED being far superior in both colour and black reproduction.
There's hardly a TV out there that won't reflect light that isn't behind it - if you've found one, let me know will you?!
ro53ben
31 Aug 161#38
If that photo was taken with the TV on it would be rather different :smiley:
RuudBullit
31 Aug 16#40
That said, if you do have a 4k set, Netflix is currently the best source of quality 4k programming at the minute in my opinion. I haven't yet signed up with Sky Q though, so other than the football, I'm not too sure whether they're putting lots out at the minute.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
31 Aug 161#41
Am I the only one who has a TV in the corner of the room where a curved TV is better as you don't get the walls reflections on the screen like you do on a flat screen.
ronaldmacdonald to GAVINLEWISHUKD
31 Aug 162#42
Nope I have a 65 curve in the corner, viewing angles perfect all round
moob to GAVINLEWISHUKD
31 Aug 162#47
You're not. It's just that loads of uninformed jumped on the bandwagon and liked that pointless 'diagram'. Drones.
ezzer72
31 Aug 161#43
+1, exactly the same here
NomiKaay
31 Aug 16#44
The only reason I have voted cold is because I saw the word 'Currys' somewhere here
ro53ben
31 Aug 161#46
+3 it would seem, exact scenario.
GAVINLEWISHUKD
1 Sep 161#48
Well I'm glad it's not just me. :smiley: All the diagrams always show people sat in odd places unlike a normal lounge and more like a cinema room (which curved or not 65" is not big enough.)
imagineS
1 Sep 16#49
I have Sony TV (not 4K) that supports 12-Bit colour depth with Xbox One S, so what's the difference with HDR? Major or minor?
damcnaught to imagineS
7 Sep 16#55
HDR is purely a label for a certain colour depth + brightness & contrast ratio, so your TV may well meet the requirements even if it preceeded the standard.
You have the colour depth, so you'd just need to compare your brightness & contrast ratio to the standard to see if there would be any difference at all with an HDR labelled TV.
devlino
1 Sep 16#50
These were originally marketed as being curved like a cinema screen, cinema screens curve because of the throw of the projector towards the edges, I'm not saying they're better or worse, my m8 has the 65" Samsung and it's a nice set, it's just there's no need to curve a tv screen
moob to devlino
2 Sep 16#54
But there is, like many others have explained
GwanGy
1 Sep 16#52
This could be the ideal telly box for me ... as my summer residence is a LIGHTHOUSE. My winter residence is an oast house so I might buy two' and my friend lives in a Windmill.
UncleStan
2 Sep 16#53
Are you Welsh?
ro53ben
7 Sep 16#56
It's not quite that simple. Either your TV will support HDR mode or it won't. Simply having good contrast doesn't magically give you HDR.
damcnaught
8 Sep 16#57
HDR isn't a mode - it's a standard, so if your tv can handle the required colour depth, contrast ratio, brightness, and colour gamut, it will display HDR content as intended.
The lack of an HDR label won't magically prevent a TV without that label that meets the specs from displaying the images.
However, the standards have been set high to help manufacturers sell their latest TVs at a higher price, so they're at a level most previous generation TVs won't meet, even if they're not far behind.
HDR for photography is actually a different process requiring multiple exposures + clever processing.
For TVs, it's a marketing term for a standard of picture quality.
ro53ben
9 Sep 16#58
No, you're over-simplifying and, as a result, misleading readers.
To support HDR, there are a number of pre-requisites. A TV screen can be capable of displaying all of the colour depth, contrast ration, brightness and colour gamut to which you refer - it still may not support HDR.
I'll draw an analogy to 5.1 surround sound. Your home theatre system may have 5 speakers and a sub but it won't necessarily support Dolby Digital 5.1. Even if it does, it may not support DTS. Both systems only require 5 speakers and a sub, but you also require that little bit of extra.
You can have an amp which support Dolby Digital 5.1 but it won't support Dolby Digital TrueHD. They both only require an amp with 5 speakers and a sub, but a TrueHD amp needs the ability to decode the new signal. Also, as that signal requires more bandwidth, you need an HDMI connection instead of a co-ax/optical one.
So whilst your speakers and amp can happily handle the 6 channels of sound, without the correct decoder it won't work.
My LG OLED TV was released with all of the required contrast/brightness support needed for HDR - but it didn't support HDR. Like having those 5.1 speakers without a DTS decoder, LG owners had a capable panel without the ability to handle HDR.
LG released a software update which allowed HDR signals to be decoded - so Amazon Prime Video and Netflix started supporting HDR overnight. When you please play, you get an on-screen "HDR is ON" notification as it switches to the required mode. In this context it is a mode, normally the TV would be decoding 8-bit colour, for HDR it starts decoding 10-bit colour. It changes mode.
But that didn't help people with external HDR sources, like those with 4k UHD Blu-ray players. They now had a TV that could both decode and display HDR signals, but they couldn't get them in. The TV had only been fitted with HDMI 2.0 sockets and the newer 2.0a standard was needed for HDR support. This was more than a software upgrade, this was a hardware change. LG offered owners a free of charge system board replacement which would provide them with HDMI 2.0a sockets and allow external support of HDR sources.
So the same TV, with the same brightness specs, went from not supporting HDR at all, to supporting it for streaming sources, to supporting it for external sources. This is more than just checking brightness specs on a piece of paper.
It still won't work for all external sources though, they need to support it too. For example the 4K Amazon Fire TV will produce lovely 4K images from Netflix but no HDR. It only has HDMI 1.4, which won't support HDR and only supports 4k at 30fps. You'll never get HDR from that regardless of the spec of the TV you connect it to.
In short, your TV will only display HDR if it supports HDR. To support HDR, you need to confirm with all the brightness/contrast specifications, but you also need the required decoding support.
Opening post
Save £30 off the marked price. Enter code TVSAVE30. Offer also available in store and for reserve and collect orders. (discount applied in store)
+ Possible 10% cashback on quidco
4k Ultra HD picture is up to 4 times the resolution of HD
HDR displays brighter colours and greater contrast
Access 4k content on Netflix & Amazon Prime
Tuner: Freeview HD
Connectivity: HDMI x 3
Technical specifications for SAMSUNG UE40KU6100 Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR 40" Curved LED TV
SCREEN
Screen technology LED bottom lit
4k HDR Yes
Screen size 40"
Curved radius 3000 mm
Resolution 3840 x 2160
PICTURE QUALITY
Processing rate 1400 PQI
Dynamic contrast ratio Mega
4k Ultra HD compatibility - 4K Upscaling picture enhancement
- 4K HDR
SMART
Smart TV services - Catch up TV: BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, All 4, My5
- Streaming: Netflix 4K, Amazon Prime 4K
- App store: Samsung TV Apps
- Custom homepage
- Full internet browser
- Social media: Facebook, Twitter, YouTube
- Gaming apps
Multimedia functions Screen mirroring
Smartphone app Yes - Samsung SmartThings
CONNECTIVITY
WiFi Built-in WiFi
Ethernet Yes
Connections - HDMI x 3
- USB 2.0 x 2
TUNER
TV tuner DVB-T2 Freeview HD Tuner
AUDIO
Audio power 20 W
Sound enhancement Dolby Digital Plus
FEATURES
Remote control Yes
VESA wall mount dimensions 200 x 200
Table-top stand Yes
Other features Sleep timer
ENERGY CONSUMPTION
Energy efficiency class A
On-mode power consumption 62 W
Annual power consumption 86 kWh
GENERAL
Colour Black
Internal menu languages 27 languages
Box contents - Samsung UE40KU6100 Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR 40" Curved LED TV
- Standard remote control
- VESA wall mount support
- Mini wall mount support
- User manual
- E-manual
- AC power cable
- Battery
Dimensions - Unboxed: 536.4 x 918.5 x 104.2 mm (H x W x D)
- Unboxed with stand: 599.5 x 918.5 x 288 mm (H x W x D)
- Boxed: 620 x 1136 x 170 mm (H x W x D)
Weight - Unboxed: 8.1 kg
- Unboxed with stand: 9 kg
- Boxed: 12.85 kg
Guarantee 1 year
Top comments
In order for the curve to not distort the image, the optimum viewing distance is the curvature radius, which on this set is 3000mm, or 3 metres.
However, in order to visually see the difference between 4k and 1080p on a 40in set, that's actually ~1-1.5 metres.
So either the 4k is pointless as you won't actually be able to see the difference, or you'll sit too close and the curve will distort your view of the image.
All comments (58)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY5ix0JxYEk
They also reduce reflections from artificial and natural light sources.
In order for the curve to not distort the image, the optimum viewing distance is the curvature radius, which on this set is 3000mm, or 3 metres.
However, in order to visually see the difference between 4k and 1080p on a 40in set, that's actually ~1-1.5 metres.
So either the 4k is pointless as you won't actually be able to see the difference, or you'll sit too close and the curve will distort your view of the image.
this any good @ £459.99
The samsung dongles are £35+ which you need to factor in for some TVs
They have had wifi for ages - apart for some low end sets,
Got a 5 yr old set myself with wifi (old 46D7000)
Amazon only have a few programs still that are 4k.
Not really seen many 4k blurays either
presumably will be 5-10Y before it takes off and by then 4k tvs will be half the present price
Hence the price cuts.
And if you go to show rooms the most top of the range,premium TVs are flat ones not curved.
it was a purely commercial gimmick that lasted very short time with zero benefit.
Look at the image below to see how the reflection of the lamp shade is ghosted across the entire width of the TV (not my image, I had to go back to flat!)
Some thoughts:
1) Anditails is right - this TV is pretty pointless.
2) 4k is pretty pointless in your average living room unless you're on upwards of about 55 inches.
3) HDR should make a difference at any size. The extra colour depth and contrast is more of value on a smaller TV than the actual resolution.
4) Curved TVs suit some deployments better than others. I went from a 46" flat plasma to a 55" curved OLED and the table lamp reflection that always annoyed me has now gone. This is a combination of the curved surface and the OLED panel being less reflective.
5) Viewing angle on all Samsung TVs is poor, curved or flat. OK for people who live alone but not recommend for a family set-up. Straight on they give a better picture than many equivalents but as soon as you move to the side they are worst in class.
There's hardly a TV out there that won't reflect light that isn't behind it - if you've found one, let me know will you?!
That said, if you do have a 4k set, Netflix is currently the best source of quality 4k programming at the minute in my opinion. I haven't yet signed up with Sky Q though, so other than the football, I'm not too sure whether they're putting lots out at the minute.
You have the colour depth, so you'd just need to compare your brightness & contrast ratio to the standard to see if there would be any difference at all with an HDR labelled TV.
The lack of an HDR label won't magically prevent a TV without that label that meets the specs from displaying the images.
However, the standards have been set high to help manufacturers sell their latest TVs at a higher price, so they're at a level most previous generation TVs won't meet, even if they're not far behind.
HDR for photography is actually a different process requiring multiple exposures + clever processing.
For TVs, it's a marketing term for a standard of picture quality.
To support HDR, there are a number of pre-requisites. A TV screen can be capable of displaying all of the colour depth, contrast ration, brightness and colour gamut to which you refer - it still may not support HDR.
I'll draw an analogy to 5.1 surround sound. Your home theatre system may have 5 speakers and a sub but it won't necessarily support Dolby Digital 5.1. Even if it does, it may not support DTS. Both systems only require 5 speakers and a sub, but you also require that little bit of extra.
You can have an amp which support Dolby Digital 5.1 but it won't support Dolby Digital TrueHD. They both only require an amp with 5 speakers and a sub, but a TrueHD amp needs the ability to decode the new signal. Also, as that signal requires more bandwidth, you need an HDMI connection instead of a co-ax/optical one.
So whilst your speakers and amp can happily handle the 6 channels of sound, without the correct decoder it won't work.
My LG OLED TV was released with all of the required contrast/brightness support needed for HDR - but it didn't support HDR. Like having those 5.1 speakers without a DTS decoder, LG owners had a capable panel without the ability to handle HDR.
LG released a software update which allowed HDR signals to be decoded - so Amazon Prime Video and Netflix started supporting HDR overnight. When you please play, you get an on-screen "HDR is ON" notification as it switches to the required mode. In this context it is a mode, normally the TV would be decoding 8-bit colour, for HDR it starts decoding 10-bit colour. It changes mode.
But that didn't help people with external HDR sources, like those with 4k UHD Blu-ray players. They now had a TV that could both decode and display HDR signals, but they couldn't get them in. The TV had only been fitted with HDMI 2.0 sockets and the newer 2.0a standard was needed for HDR support. This was more than a software upgrade, this was a hardware change. LG offered owners a free of charge system board replacement which would provide them with HDMI 2.0a sockets and allow external support of HDR sources.
So the same TV, with the same brightness specs, went from not supporting HDR at all, to supporting it for streaming sources, to supporting it for external sources. This is more than just checking brightness specs on a piece of paper.
It still won't work for all external sources though, they need to support it too. For example the 4K Amazon Fire TV will produce lovely 4K images from Netflix but no HDR. It only has HDMI 1.4, which won't support HDR and only supports 4k at 30fps. You'll never get HDR from that regardless of the spec of the TV you connect it to.
In short, your TV will only display HDR if it supports HDR. To support HDR, you need to confirm with all the brightness/contrast specifications, but you also need the required decoding support.