I'd budget around £150 2nd hand, maybe double that figure if new
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mikeleeds
15 Aug 16#1
But you don't need such a fancy bar, of course --- it all depends what you are wanting to do and how seriously you take it. £800 is for a top notch bar (and certainly unnecessary to spend so much for most people) but even then it's not much more then 2-3 years of gym membership fees - plus those bars have lifetime guarantees.
msharif911
15 Aug 161#2
TBH honest these are going to sit in someones bedroom and the bench will be uiseful for tying shoelaces on. After that, in the garage and 5 years later up on Gumtree.
weldermike
15 Aug 16#3
Ok, for beginners but you will need to upgrade if you get serious, good deal.
TygerrTygerr
15 Aug 16#4
It doesn't appear to fold, so that won't work either. Even in a garage it'll drive you mad, they take up far more space than people imagine.
anthony69
15 Aug 161#5
What do you expect for this price.
HottyHotty
15 Aug 16#6
The amount of weight is fine, but I'd say it's worth the small extra cost in the short term to go with cast iron. They last longer and take up far less room. MSE Ebay local is a great place to find them cheap.
StonehamPark
15 Aug 161#7
I bought this 18 months ago.
From being an absolute beginner, you'll grow out of it in 6 weeks and it'll become redundant.
The 30kg was immediately too light, so I bought 60kg of Cast Iron (bar has a weight limit of 70-80kg?). Again, redundant after another 6-8 weeks.
- I wouldn't trust the bar (or frame) with more than 60kg, both feel far too unstable.
Low-weight issue aside, the frame feels really poor. It's quite rickety. As mentioned above, I wouldn't trust 60+kg above my head on this frame.
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For anyone considering this (including absolute beginners), check eBay and Gumtree for second hand kits (bench, bar and iron weights). You could probably pick up a half-decent, 100kg set-up for somewhere between £50-£100.
I know that's a lot more than the £39.99 here, but the majority of buyers won't have any use for the bench, bars or weights after 6-12 weeks.
Hope that helps.
Edit: Also, the bar is extremely short, so grip options are limited to just the one.
Frequently caught my hand between the bar and frame. Crap piece of kit tbh.
londonguy
15 Aug 16#8
yep waste of time this .
i have a kettler fitmaster machine and it has 65kg on it good for most exercises apart from benching needs more weight .
so 30kg is a waste of time .
Sven2400
15 Aug 16#9
I have no comment on this thread but just to apologise that I clicked 'cold' by mistake.
mfactor
15 Aug 161#10
This happens every time weights come on hot deals :wink: , so heres my take on it, have been lifting 35 years and have gone thru all the permutations of kit......
so.....
1) Weight is weight, resistance is resistance, I had something like this in the early days, but the quality has seemed to have dropped in recent years, ( with screw together bars etc :confused: ), and I still have an ezy bar bought from Argos 25 years ago and it just has a couple of old vinyl 10kg plates on it which are never changed, I just slip on a few extras depending on the lift .
2) Olympic Weights, yep they are great and I had a set with power rack etc for a decade or so , but not really an issue here as we are talking beginners rehab etc. ( and in hindsight if I were to do it again I would not get them for home use ,especially if training alone .
3) Lots of good options, I dont lift that heavy these days ( pushing 50) and use a 2nd bedroom and dont think the floor would take the weight :confused: I now use the weird sized Domyos weights (avoid as normal plates dont fit it as its a 30mm bar) , a half rack with pulley and a selection of solid Dumbbells .....
4) My opinion ....:smiley: If you are really skint buy this , you can have a play and if it isnt for you you wont lose much flog it at a car boot....
5 ) My advice save for a while , get a good beefy bar ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/York-Fitness-80-Beefy-Bar/dp/B0015ULUZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471259313&sr=8-1&keywords=beefy+bar ) and a few cast weights ( for less than £100, even less S/H) , the main reason I say do this is you will never really need to change them as they will last a lifetime and just pick up extra weights every now and again, dont worry about a bench to start with you can overhead press instead ( better upper body exercise IMO, but thats another argument) or floor press etc ( http://www.exrx.net/) thousand of lifts on there..
Simplyalif
15 Aug 16#11
I never said it was gonna be cheap, but if you want a gym at home then those are the essentials, plus if you look around you could probably get a good deal, I mean I remember my first power cage and weights combo, it was £100 for 160 kg weights bench, bar and power cage, granted it was 2nd hand and the guy who sold it to me was my neighbour.
Simplyalif
15 Aug 16#12
Well you said huge, and no it is practically impossible to get big with 30kg even if u did like a million reps
jdrob123
15 Aug 161#13
It's not about what is expected for the price. The idea of this site is to save money. There's no point in throwing £40 at something you're going to grow out of in a couple of months time then go through the hassle of trying to sell it on Gumtree when you could get 2 months at a local gym for that price or save some more money and invest in a set that will last you a while.
Jerec
15 Aug 161#14
Anyone got a good link for a incline adjustable fold up bench? If one even exists that is!
Dont really have the room or the wife permission to get a normal one :disappointed:
Simplyalif
15 Aug 16#15
I would say check your local Gumtree to see if you could get a second hand Olympic bar set on the cheap, second I would check eBay. But for the bar and Olympic weights of eBay I'd say about £150
Simplyalif
15 Aug 161#16
Still better than this crap deal
Dantooine
15 Aug 161#17
*waiting for Lee Parsons*
Mumushka
15 Aug 16#18
How does this work? My mother (70 years old, grossly unfit and obese) has been talking about getting some weights for home and I was trying to persuade her to go to a gym instead, but she was put off by the cost - I had a look to see if there were any schemes for gym access for her, but came up blank.
NorthantsPete
15 Aug 161#19
guess I could 1 arm curl the bar... other than that pretty useless
B1naryC0de
15 Aug 161#20
I bought this but I grew out of it by the time it was delivered :disappointed:
paulhea
15 Aug 16#21
^^^^^^^^
Proper nails!
peterkay11
15 Aug 16#22
He's a legend!
dale86uk
15 Aug 161#23
Decent comment in comparison to most, however this beefy bar is stated to only hold 150kg. Might be OK for a year for a beginner but if squatting or deadlifting they'll need to upgrade to a sturdier bar?
jno2992
15 Aug 161#24
People who think this have clearly never lifted in their life and spreading the false misconceptions still... yeah.
Unless you eat a **** tone of food over your normal calorie intake and lift at the same time, you're not gonna get huge, and its certainly not gonna be overnight. You hit the spot you want, then you cut. Not rocket science.
afroylnt
15 Aug 161#25
and don't forget the steroid injections...
EcumenicalMatter
15 Aug 16#26
A quick Gumtree search and I found an olympic bar for £30.
$1100? You must be mental.
EazyDuz
15 Aug 16#27
30kg, decent amount of weight that....for a 10 year old.
Synth
15 Aug 16#28
Save your money and learn to train your body through calisthenics if you are training for aesthetic or fitness purposes.
hitmant
15 Aug 162#29
Lol love how people are saying the weights to small, but I guarantee most people who have said that cant ATG squat 30kg for reps.
Dantooine
15 Aug 16#30
I bet they can, that's a warm up weight at most.
anthony69
15 Aug 16#31
For a complete beginner its perfect and cheap as chips as a great intro.
mfactor
15 Aug 16#32
Agreed but I figure by the time someone is up to that weight they will have been bitten by the bug and joined a gym, best place really lifting above that weight.........and to be honest if you want to be Deadlifting and squatting its probably best to skip the home gym altogether as you really need proper instruction on those lifts from the start...
mfactor
15 Aug 16#33
Try her doctor , my council gym does a free 12 week "LIFT" course with health assessment and everything for free if referred by the doc/nurse....
mfactor
15 Aug 161#34
Also remember that weight lifting and weight training are 2 totally different things
Lifting is generally when you are doing the big 3 (powerlifting) Bench, Deads and Squats and the idea is to get strong by lifting heavy bloody weights :smiley: ...
Training is generally more isolation exercises (Bodybuilding) where the idea is to build muscle....usually in a higher rep range...
The main difference is that in the latter you work the muscle to make it grow .... ie a barbell curl is not a full body exercise :confused: , I know a fair few guys (including myself) who never use more than 20-30kgs when curling but use strict form, but often see others (on my odd trip to the local gym) use 50-60kg or more, I will leave you to guess who has the bigger guns :sunglasses:
A bit simplistic as there is a lot of crossover, but this is hot deals not a Meathead forum :confused:.
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From being an absolute beginner, you'll grow out of it in 6 weeks and it'll become redundant.
The 30kg was immediately too light, so I bought 60kg of Cast Iron (bar has a weight limit of 70-80kg?). Again, redundant after another 6-8 weeks.
- I wouldn't trust the bar (or frame) with more than 60kg, both feel far too unstable.
Low-weight issue aside, the frame feels really poor. It's quite rickety. As mentioned above, I wouldn't trust 60+kg above my head on this frame.
---
For anyone considering this (including absolute beginners), check eBay and Gumtree for second hand kits (bench, bar and iron weights). You could probably pick up a half-decent, 100kg set-up for somewhere between £50-£100.
I know that's a lot more than the £39.99 here, but the majority of buyers won't have any use for the bench, bars or weights after 6-12 weeks.
Hope that helps.
Edit: Also, the bar is extremely short, so grip options are limited to just the one.
Frequently caught my hand between the bar and frame. Crap piece of kit tbh.
i have a kettler fitmaster machine and it has 65kg on it good for most exercises apart from benching needs more weight .
so 30kg is a waste of time .
so.....
1) Weight is weight, resistance is resistance, I had something like this in the early days, but the quality has seemed to have dropped in recent years, ( with screw together bars etc :confused: ), and I still have an ezy bar bought from Argos 25 years ago and it just has a couple of old vinyl 10kg plates on it which are never changed, I just slip on a few extras depending on the lift .
2) Olympic Weights, yep they are great and I had a set with power rack etc for a decade or so , but not really an issue here as we are talking beginners rehab etc. ( and in hindsight if I were to do it again I would not get them for home use ,especially if training alone .
3) Lots of good options, I dont lift that heavy these days ( pushing 50) and use a 2nd bedroom and dont think the floor would take the weight :confused: I now use the weird sized Domyos weights (avoid as normal plates dont fit it as its a 30mm bar) , a half rack with pulley and a selection of solid Dumbbells .....
4) My opinion ....:smiley: If you are really skint buy this , you can have a play and if it isnt for you you wont lose much flog it at a car boot....
5 ) My advice save for a while , get a good beefy bar ( https://www.amazon.co.uk/York-Fitness-80-Beefy-Bar/dp/B0015ULUZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471259313&sr=8-1&keywords=beefy+bar ) and a few cast weights ( for less than £100, even less S/H) , the main reason I say do this is you will never really need to change them as they will last a lifetime and just pick up extra weights every now and again, dont worry about a bench to start with you can overhead press instead ( better upper body exercise IMO, but thats another argument) or floor press etc ( http://www.exrx.net/) thousand of lifts on there..
Dont really have the room or the wife permission to get a normal one :disappointed:
Proper nails!
Unless you eat a **** tone of food over your normal calorie intake and lift at the same time, you're not gonna get huge, and its certainly not gonna be overnight. You hit the spot you want, then you cut. Not rocket science.
$1100? You must be mental.
Lifting is generally when you are doing the big 3 (powerlifting) Bench, Deads and Squats and the idea is to get strong by lifting heavy bloody weights :smiley: ...
Training is generally more isolation exercises (Bodybuilding) where the idea is to build muscle....usually in a higher rep range...
The main difference is that in the latter you work the muscle to make it grow .... ie a barbell curl is not a full body exercise :confused: , I know a fair few guys (including myself) who never use more than 20-30kgs when curling but use strict form, but often see others (on my odd trip to the local gym) use 50-60kg or more, I will leave you to guess who has the bigger guns :sunglasses:
A bit simplistic as there is a lot of crossover, but this is hot deals not a Meathead forum :confused:.
Pretty good but would do the negative a bit slower myself http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Biceps/BBCurl.html
Hi,
I have looked into this for you and I can confirm that the maximum user weight is 100KG
100KG??
I weigh 94kg!!
Not a good deal for a roidhead.