Not really as my 9 year old son want to play his favourite players and clubs with correct names, correct kit and the correct faces. £36.99 for 12 months of fun is cheap in my book.

God, FIFA vs PES comments/discussions are the worst.

you'd be a fool to pre order this especially with the pes previews

http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/is_pes_2017_the_greatest_football_game_of_all_time.html

Don't buy it it's been proven that if you play FUT and have been spending real money on packs that they've been ripping you off. The special inform cards are worse than the normal cards. EA have been fraudulently ripping off its customers.

My boys copy arrived yesterday (release day) and had an email the day before delivery with DEC code. Good service. Hot deal

I ordered mine from Simplygames

​where did you order yours from?

I've had mine delivered today as well, although I didn't pre-order it from Smyths. I hope everyone gets their copy on time.

Got an email saying it should arrive tomorrow. The DLC code was also in the email.

Just had mine delivered :smirk:

I've chosen to collect mine from in store and still no email to say I when I can come collect it.

Has anyone got their copy today? I've not had the dispatch email yet...

what you playing it on ? I've never known it to crash ever, don't think I'm gonna even bother getting any until Christmas, both feel inferior to pes 16 at the moment

They may have remodeled faces for the Euros but couldn't be bothered to update the teams to the correct line ups. England being the main example. Unforgivable really given they'd bought the licence. Just got PES 2017 and so far I'm finding it a bit meh. Crashes a lot and there's one stadium that glitches out a fair bit hiding players etc. Feels a little unfinished and my club online is a lag fest and largely unplayable. I'm thinking of getting FIFA as I enjoyed the demo and the Journey looks fun to play.

​I pre-ordered no man's sky from them and they took payment two days before release

Smyth toys have the worst reviews ever.

Pes is better

Good price will they take payment when it's shipped?

Heat given!

Great price! Please have some heat!

How??

Even better I got the super deluxe edition for £46 pm me and il let know how to do it

29th is the UK release date, two days after the US

Anybody have any idea why it's saying in stock from September 29th when the release date is the 27th?

What's the benefits and improvements of the frostbite engine? I've played about 30 games so far and apart from making it feel slightly different and some minor changes, it pretty much feels like fifa 16

Heat added, have bought

You buy an PSN account pre loaded with Fifa 17 from an Ebay seller. Then activate it as your primary account, where from there you can either play on there or you game share it and play the game on your real account. (Instructions may change depending on seller)

Personally, I would avoid that route as its very unsafe unless you personally know them or unless you were given a working code, and of course this is illegal, so if/when the account gets be revoked...can't do much about it.

What is this you speak off?

ordered thanks op

Pes was only ever any good in about 1998, Nothing ever improves and all you do is zigzag moves and its a goal.

First game on hardest setting beat the opposition 10-0.

Legendary on Fifa is very hard to beat and actually offers a challenge.!

How can I buy super dulexe for £65 pal?

Would you not just buy a digital download primary account from eBay for £21

Just spoke to them about ps4 and can now order online

It doesn't. It's available early with EA Access which is an XBOX exclusive subscription as Sony weren't interested in it.

And what I was actually on about was the edit mode in PES.

Yes you can, I share fifa 16 deluxe with a friend, and we both play in the same pro club! haha

However, to the best of my knowledge, only the person who buys the game on their account actually gets the DLC

So your friend will get the game but not the add on packs for instance

It also works with xbox live, I have Gold and my friend doesn't, he pays for half my gold and shares it

Here is a good guide for it: http://www.ubergizmo.com/how-to/gameshare-xbox-one/

Split the cost of Gold and never pay full price for a game again! ^^

thats great, however, I meant the sharing bit! lol ... Ive heard of it, however, unsure how it works
By sharing, can we both play the game at the same time, and in fact together?

Thanks for that, saves me buying 2 copies for the kids

I'll try here first

1) Go to cdkeys and buy £65 of xbox credit and EA Access 1 month, should come to about £63-65
2) Use a facebook 5% off code to get a little off your cdkeys order
3) Redeem the credit and EA access on your Xbox account
4) Go through fifa 16 to get 10% off super deluxe (it should be in game)
5) EA Access auto adds another 10% so the game should be £63.99 digital download
6) Share with a friend (needs to be set up, easy to do, google it, 5-10 mins) and split the cost, 30 ish each for SD edition!

So for £65 quid thats the super deluxe preorder and 1 month of EA access! Share it with a mate and its under 35 quid. bargain.

yh, looks like it.

Is PS4 standard sold out? When I go to put it in my basket it greys out...

Any idea if Symths will remain open for a midnight launch... Theres a store 5 miles from us so tempted to click and collect

Can you please explain (in PM if required), how to do this please?

​pes rely on their face textures every year. it's impressive but lame all the same. their animations STILL have work to do to rival fifa's

no they haven't. only one EA Sports title used Frostbite to date - 2015's Rory McIlroy PGA Tour.
and all the other sport games will be transitioned over the next years. NFL, NHL and NBA are still on Ignite.

​They started using the new Frostbite engine on last years Fifa

​you do realise that fifa is releasing earlier on Xbox than PS? they have a deal with EA... it's only a couple of days mind.

​agreed, especially now they're using frostbite.

​close enough haha

yes, fifa is great for playing a couple matches then hopping off. much more convenient to not have to swap the disc in and out everytime. i dont go digital for many games but fifa is one of them

paulj48: apparently it hits shops everywhere on 29th in uk :P 27th in North America.
So placed the order with Smythstoys through Topcashback, paid with Amex cashback card. thats about 4.40% as cashback.

He's going to be disappointed.

27th is the US release date, Europe is the 29th

edit: @heluva why have you now deleted your post? :smirk:

Bit of a stupid comment no? When it comes to games especially sports there are two types of them. Simulation and arcade. One is trying to recreate the experience of watching/playing the game and the other isn't. For example NBA2k is trying to replicate it and NBA Jam isn't. Obviously no game is going to be the same as playing the sport yourself.....

Thanks, ordered.

have played FIFA every year since I was 7 but the last one was so bad that I'm going to pes

​fanboys will be fanboys :sunglasses:

I have no doubts , no EA neither konami , both wants rip us off and deliver not finished product

Konami or EA? Pick your posion

I don't really get why people are taking such an issue with this guys decision, but I've personally gone for physical as I'll chop it in as soon as it goes live on ea access, and get a subscription to that, just like I've done this year. However I much prefer not having to swap the disc as I mainly play my xbox through game streaming

noticed something in game on fifa 16 saying you get extra % off the super deluxe eidition making it £2 more expensive for 40 packs instead of 20 (with the deluxe version), so i went on MS web chat, cancelled the deluxe, used the MS credit refund to buy the super deluxe from in game, 40 packs instead of 20 for an extra 2£, with ea access it meant 63£ for the super deluxe, plus the 20 packs are still showing as being purchased on the xbox from the deluxe version, but now has the 40 packs there too! 60 packs??

As the xbox downloads the purchase of packs when you preorder (as thats the bonus) but it seems that I now have both 20 and 40 preorder packs that are still valid...

Holding out for a better dealio

Maybe he can leave it in the console, as he plays it "too much" anyway, so he won't need to swap discs often.

I've gone for this deal. The thing that makes me think it could actually feel different this year is that they've used a new game engine, as opposed to keeping the same one for 3 years + previously.

As far as I've seen its all about Sony, Xbox neglected again. They blame Microsoft for not helping them, but really they're too lazy to change their ways and update the way edit mode works.

I know what he means, easier to not have to get the disc in and out of it's box.

Don't get me wrong, I've already preordered this, but they say this every year and the changes are minimal.

You played a game too much to get a physical copy? Wha?

Cheapest price so far. Thanks.
I've been invited to the closed beta too =)

Ordered . Great price

​Um, what? Since when has a football video game ever been anything like actually playing the sport yourself?

i played fifa16 too much to get a physical copy

going digital for 17

​I tried it, looked flashy, didn't quite have the same feel for me.

​There's actually a load of updates and new features this year.

I have FIFA 16 and had PES 16 (the Euro version). PES is a better game - not so much a slog like Fifa (in Professional) but all those crazy team names, no sponsors on shirts, moody stadiums, made up club badges and mad coloured kits makes PES second best. They only had Manchester United correct in the Premiership - kit, sponsor etc.

The Euro bit was all correct and was a great game.

Pity they cant make a PES/FIFA hybrid with all the best bits.

Wont be getting FIFa 17 until at least February when its £15 digital - not enough changes to warrant a £37 outlay now.

Does anyone know about option files on xbox for PES17?

I have both from last year and PES played the better game but didn't have the features and online was a disaster and with story mode its fifa for me this year.

I'm going to gamescom next week so will be playing both and will report back!

£37 :laughing: I think I'll wait until the bugs are ironed out and the price has dropped

Can't believe people are arguing over which game is better, has nothing to do with the deal. And it's not like anyone is going to convince anyone to not buy it because of their post. Crazy.

With that said, I'll pass on this and wait to see if Simply Games drop their price a little or get it digitally, it's not like it has much resale value once the season ends anyway.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.smythstoys.com

Scroll down to the uncharted pre order reviews. A lot of customers never received it on release day. This offers seem like the Cool Shop offer last year where they were much cheaper than everyone else but it's clearly for a reason. You'll never get it on release date and after last year I'm not willing to take the risk

Maybe the cheapest price at the moment but £37 is not a good price in my opinion.

Yeah but F*cKonami

Cheers OP, great price. Ordered. Plus £1.11 Quidco confirmed -

For me it's simple...

FIFA wins for solo players and those wanting realistic league structures and management modes

PES wins for those that play multiplayer offline.

Both gameplay have serious faults that hold them back.

But I don't really trust a reviewer/previewer that claims last years PES was a "classic" reviewers can be fanboys too apparently.

Only a PES fanboy could describe last years effort as a classic game.

​play my club ?

​can you not edit a team name ? it's not hard ! I'll write a guide out for you if you want

Then you know nothing this is a completely different engine used for Fifa 17 if you even know what that means

As long as he stays away from all of that Ultimate Team nonsense. I'm still not sure how that **** is legal tbh.

I found that Barca faces are brilliant, the others whilst recognisable looks a bit strange (Ozil and Greizmann for example!)

Will be looking out for the PES demo and seeing what the gameplay is like. Agree that FIFA is a bit samey each year in terms of game play, it gets more realistic in terms of appearance, but AI doesn't improve enough. That said, they have my money for 2017!

you'd be a fool to pre order this especially with the pes previews

http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/is_pes_2017_the_greatest_football_game_of_all_time.html

If you're looking to get this day one, I'd recommend preordering elsewhere. Had Uncharted 4 preordered at Smyths because it was cheaper than anywhere else by £5 (same as this offer right now). It didn't arrive until three days after. It's also not as easy to cancel your order compared to other websites from what I remember

Hot :smiley::smiley:

"ONLY £36.99!"

:laughing:

Quite pricey for a kit and roster update.

exactly,when it comes down to ultimate team etc fifa kills PES imo.
i tried to love pes and i jsut cant,im not sure if its the menus that hurt my eyes or just the game doesnt feel right for me.
but i always go back to fifa and it gets me my fix for a year.


looking at that video above though the menus look changed,claiming last years pes was best footy game evewr made just ruined his cred imo though

For once, I think I'll give the deluxe version a miss, absolutely poor value. £17 extra for 20 jumbo packs, a silly kit and some loan players that ultimately, you'll either not use or they vanish after a few games. I didn't stay interested in Fifa 16 for more than a few weeks last season and the packs I opened from the deluxe version gave me **** all (as usual).

£37 is a decent price but I can see it dropping lower by time it's released, which Smyths will honor.

For all the 'FIFA Sucks, I'm going PES!' guys, do you play online? If you do, you're going to be your ever raging self and back on FIFA before the end of October.

Played some PES last year, and it just doesn't hold up at all. Master League is good, but I'm not in these games to play against the computer.

if you pre order for this price does this mean your guaranteed this price?

Or wait 6 to 8 months and get in included in ea access for £20 a year i never buy ea games now just wait ti be added for free to ea access

Ordered and got TCB too, Cheers!

I managed to pre-order without putting the discount code in :laughing:, you have to email them / possible write a letter to cancel the order so make sure you add the discount code when ordering.

What I want to know is, will supermarkets have any offers. Think they used to have, spend £30 on groceries and get the game for £30 or less

said I was not going to bother with fifa 17 this year
then I got a Beta Tester invite that starts in a few days.
So will get to try before deciding Im not going to get fifa 17 this year.

hot :wink: thanks

That's what I try to tell everyone. Been playing UT since it started, never spent money on it. Did however, make some money selling players on ebay lol

Good price . Iv ordered cheers for the post !

Get ea access for 1 month, about 3 quid, and log in through fifa 16, that will give you super deluxe for 65 quid

Share it with a mate through game sharing and that's 32.50 for super deluxe, with all the dlc

If you're not game sharing by now, on xbox at least, you are literally throwing money away

Takes 5-10 mins and is a one time thing, then its half price games forever ^^

For people who want a physical copy/ cba to spend 5 mins to save themselves tens/00s of £ by game sharing, this is hot

I'm sure the price will go down

Finally fifa with actual change.... voting hot

part iii worries me on their pre order conditions... anyone had any pre orders from them before?

" the price displayed at the time the item becomes available for dispatch (and not pre-order) is the price you will pay. Smyths Toys can give no guarantee as regards changes in prices between the time of pre-order and when the item is available to us for dispatch; "

http://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/page/o/customerservice/pre-order/

Always been a huge FIFA fan but tempted to try PES this year,... Just a quick question: is it possible to get a patch to get the official kits and player names on xbox one?

cheapest I've seen good find, was very disappointed with pes 16 and wasn't much impressed with fifa 16 either. Other then graphics slightly improved game play wasn't just slightly different from previous year.

​Super fun, no need to spend real money on stuff. The reward is in putting in loads of time.

​And the end result is Fifa looks miles better!

Don't buy it it's been proven that if you play FUT and have been spending real money on packs that they've been ripping you off. The special inform cards are worse than the normal cards. EA have been fraudulently ripping off its customers.

Just pre-ordered on the ps3 for £34.99

Anybody pre ordered a new release from these before? If so, did you get your game early?

According to psprices it was £27.50 and that was end of November.

https://psprices.com/region-gb/game/113159/ea-sportstm-fifa-16

Shipping French ?

what was the best pre order price on this last year? are we likely to see lower than £36.99 ?

​they just haven't got the resources to do all the clubs like FIFA, all the big name players got remodelled for the euros though. I support boro you should see how bad some of our players were! end of the day though I only play my club so having real team names and smaller clubs player models better isn't too much of a concern. FIFA didn't do the championship players any justice either though!

I have just used them for no mans sky and picked it up yesterday no problem.

Also you get 3% back on quidco

hmmm I don't know if I prefer the draft token standard edition or deluxe!!

​what you must remember is that the majority of these players are drawn by an actual artist (or lack of in this case) rather than the way it's done on fifa which is photo capture.

Also, getting back to the deal itself. I'm probably going to hold off, Zavvi/The Hut Group usually do a deal which I reckon will go live next week or the week after cheaper than Smyth's so I'm holding out.

That isn't quite true. They are very good for the teams that are in there i.e Barca but everyone else looks bad. As a Saints fan I couldn't stop laughing at some of the players faces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjWwqC_xEzM
Wanyama and Ward Prowse look nothing at all like the players.

Having played both games (FIFA 16 and PES 16) with friends I found that PES actually has better gameplay and physics and just feels a much smoother engine than FIFA. That said, the game modes themselves and names are much better than PES. I play a lot of pro clubs but find the AI extremely infuriating every year because FIFA don't invest (they say they improve every year and it turns out to be the same AI) in anything other than FUT which I never really bother with. I'm more of a pro clubs/career mode/co-op seasons kinda guy.

PES's version of pro clubs does exist, yes, but it's not your own team and you have to go through a whole sorry process of selecting your player about 4 times to confirm you want to replace an existing player within an existing team and then go on to find another team to play against in a lobby setting rather than the server find one for you like FIFA does. I'd say if you're looking to play online go FIFA, if you're playing locally play PES. I just wish FIFA or PES would take the positives from the other game without kicking off any copyright infringements or whatever.

Thx OP cheapest I've found it for so just preordered mine! Anyone know how Smyths are for preorders?

Right so... you don't create your own pro player, you don't create your own club and you don't progress through divisions?

Yeah, sounds good mate. :laughing:

​pes has the correct faces, intact graphically the face detail is a lot better than FIFA, watch he YouTube previews of how good the Barcelona side is, they use the fox engine which improves drastically every year instead of rehashing the same game. and kits can be added, although it is a bit of a pain I agree

God, FIFA vs PES comments/discussions are the worst.

Every little helps! lol

This Fifa is using Frostbite so I would imagine there will be quite a few gameplay changes...suppose that explains why the last few have been virtually identical :neutral_face:

or 3.03% TopCashback :wink:

Don't forget Quidco 3%... It's worth a try even though it will probably be rejected for using a code.

​Team Play lobby match. It's a bit rubbish like proclubs but it's there. Trophy/Achievement description for that mode below.

The Best of the Bunch

Awarded for being named Man of the Match in a Team Play Lobby match

well different opinion here as a current PES 2016 player. PES online server has massive massive lag you will be frustrated all day by the input lag. Many users complain about this yet Konami totally ignored it. I got lag 9 out of 10 games which made me impossible to play online ranked division. I played reasonably well on both FIFA and PES. For FIFA 13 i managed to got to division 2. However, PES16 I forever got stuck in division 9. Online lag cheaters everywhere in PES as well. Google it yourself. Long pass and through pass are too easy in PES and online players too rely on playing anti-football to win. There are some other reasons I'm not impressed with PES series as well. I'll totally give PES2017 a miss.

just remember, the online lag will ultimately haunt your PES experience.

Yeah? What's that called then because it's the first I'm hearing about it.

I am going the other way this year. I liked PES this year at the start but got tired of winning games 5-0 etc. Its become a less simulation of football and more an arcade goal fest. Which is fine if you like that type of thing of course.

Says "CODE NOT VALID"......?

whats this company like for pre orders, get it for release?

​kit and badge patch for ps4

Made a slight change. You're welcome.

​there is a version of proclubs and this season option files are back so it will take all of 5 minutes to make PES perfect. I'm getting both but PES has been better the last 2 years IMHO.

I did yeah. Nathan Drake was the last game I got off them but any i've Pre-Ordered online with smyths I've always had the game on release date. It's easier than queuing the night before or going into town the day of and hoping there's stock! That's my experience with them anyway. Couldn't fault them!

Thanks OP

I used them before for Nathan Drake. Had the payment come out of my account when the game was dispatched.

Thanks, got my order in.

How are Smyths with pre-orders? Likely to get it day before release?

Good price, heat added.
Has anyone else used Smyths Toys before? Do they take payment straight away or wait until dispatch?

Nice, Best price I can find currently for ps4 version