You're welcome mate, braver man than me as I'm very much on the fence about VR so am not buying in to it till I am convinced it will be more than a short term gimmick.

I ain't bothering with this. Been stung by Sony with Move and PS Camera before. After a while support will dwindle and you'll be left with a paperweight that has no new games. If not then maybe I will buy one but Sony's past record isn't great on supporting new peripherals.

How much??!!!. Wait a year and these will go the same route as 3D has & be a third of the price. Just wish these inventors would realise that most people don't want to wear glass or headsets inorder to joy something. Not voting either way

​After publishing my comment I realised that.

mine arrived yesterday Thurs 13th @ 5pm
is awesome!

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I've been lucky enough to try a demo of PlayStation VR at EGX the other week. I played Farpoint which was amazing, annoyingly. So I now really want one! My mate has glasses and he tried it too, said it was very comfy.

Complete and utter BS. Even if thats the case then why would they fire the senior staff as well who would be planning and recruiting for their next project?

Every time a game is finished they release people. At the start of a project you have a small group of developers and as it picks up more steam they increase the work force. You can't employ 150 people on a game and having half of them twiddling their thumbs while they have nothing to do. It's like having script writers working on a new film and you're annoyed they've let go all the camera men go from the previous project.

Oh look breaking news. Sony lays off most of its employees in SCE London including senior staff which so happened was suppose to be their main VR studio. The VR bubble has burst before it even releases. Brilliant news.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/layoffs-at-sony-london-studio-ahead-of-first-vr-launch/0224117

Surely though with this some clever people could get it working on PC? Even Sony say they might allow it to work on PC in future.

Sony will abandon it as soon as it releases like they did with the Vita. Even now its one month from releases and theres literelly no buzz over vr. Vr is already dead and they are now gonna try to cash in on the few people who have more money than sense before they pretend it doesn't exist. Sony has a long history of abandoning anything that isn't their main ps console.

My gaming set up is in a living room so everyone will see me looking like a goofy idiot wearing this but I really want one!

​Who's got a barge pole?

It won't. Wii sold like crazy and even then devs didn't want to touch it. Gimmicks and fads die out fast for a reason.

​nah just capitalist greed

not touching this with a bargepole untill it has been out a while and has support

I've taken the plunge. Might regret it but they keep announcing new games for it so the developers must like it

Sony really is getting greedy and desperate these past few months. Releasing 3 expensive hardware and increasing the price of ps plus is beyond penny pinching. Makes me think that dispite PS4's success the company as a whole is struggling.

The biggest scam in gaming. VR lol. People actually falling for it as well lol. It will get abandoned as soon as it releases. In fact hype for VR has been dead for months.

It's the VR sickness that bothers me, I've tried them and know I'm susceptible so take a travel tablet before using one, but it's not a long term solution, need them to find a fix, they're working hard on it.

And do not forget the PS3 eye camera that was also required, and had virtually no other support on the PS3.

Buy yeah, once bitten twice shy, third time i should have all monetary decisions taken away from me and put in the hand's of a trust. lol

This does intrest me however here are my problems one is way over priced right now 2 I can't help but think its will fail. I wonder how many headsets get broke within a week due to people sitting on them headsets getting misused? I would really like to see this take off however the price right now is silly. Once this hits the sweet spot could see this taking off until then I see this bombing

had to re-read the game you mentioned a couple of times....

managed to get this for 300 from very with a code a while back. I'm skeptical by the early releases, they look more like demos than real games although resident evil looked brilliant, are they getting the same graphics on that in VR without a system upgrade ?

hopefully this will work on all the YouTube 360 videos and other downloadable movies without Sony making you buy from their store

Track record for game peripheral especially with Sony is not great. I'll give it a year and trial it a few times before I decide whether I want to buy one. Though if I would need to upgrade to a PS4.5 to get a decent VR experience thats going to suck.

Seriously this console generation is getting pretty annoying. If i wanted to upgrade my gaming setup every 2-3 year I would have bought a gaming PC <______________<

Cancelled my Amazon.de order because stupid exchange rates had sent the price from £305 to £345 (thanks Brexit) and ordered this one instead. Had a few Tesco vouchers I could use too so worked out well.

Would love to know how frame interpolation for a low latency real-time video source is going to work.

It's fine for video decoding (you just decode extra frames and interpolate towards them), it's also fine for TV projection (again, you just introduce latency with an interpolation buffer).

However frame interpolation on a real-time video source where you can't buffer?
In that situations, all you have access to is past frames; using them for interpolating(extrapolating) a future frame seems like a recipe for rubber-banding-like artefacts.

When your competitors are advertising 90fps, pretending that 60fps+frame extrapolation=120fps is seriously disingenuous.

Article on ATV; Oculus' analysis of orientation & positional time warp (likely the same techniques employed by Sony)

https://developer3.oculus.com/blog/asynchronous-timewarp-examined/

Actually, PSVR uses Move controllers so it has the chance to rewrite history and make a success of that peripheral too!

​I'm not boasting about anything. The person wanted to know about my TV so I told him/her. Not sure what credibility or unbiased comments you are talking about. - It sounds like you want to be a politician, so maybe you are not in the right place :stuck_out_tongue:
The 40" 4k TV for £219 was just to show how pricey psvr is.

With due respect if you're not trolling by proudly 'boasting' your telly is a ten year old 22 incher I'm not sure you're in the right thread here, blimey any credibility you had to make an unbiased comment on this product evaporated with the 40" 4K TV for £219 punchline :smile:

I have tried the PSVR a couple times in the Sony store in the Dubai Mall. The PSVR was running on a stock PS4, and the two titles I tried out looked pretty fine to me. I tried the London Heist and the underwater experience. No vision blur or motion sickness. But the caveat is not everyone's eyes are the same and some people may have a different experience altogether. Also to answer another post. I wear glasses and the unit fits very snugly even with glasses on.

I remember playstation move. Basically a £60 donation to the Sony corporation for something with zero support. I worry this will follow the same route

​That's actually quite impressive. Makes you think actually, given the advances in technology over nearly 50 years, why it's taken so long and so much expense to make a decent vr headset.

​Not quite the same kettle of fish. The TV has more uses and can be viewed by many people at the same time.
Though if you really must know, it's a 10 year old 22" Samsung LCD.
That said, I could upgrade to a pretty decent 40" 4k tv for £219!

does anyone know of games that will supported at launch? I could imagine no mans sky would be good on this....

I have thought about that and been in a couple of places where there is one or two to test out but there's been like bundles of people wanting a go and I can't be waiting all day so I've just dropped it out and left

I have almost always jumped on board adopting new things early but perhaps because I'm getting older I'm getting wiser(or should that be tighter) I'm keeping my wallet firmly closed for longer.

I'm not even playing the price drop waiting game, if it's a success and I like what it's offering after I've taken a demonstrator for a spin in somewhere like Game I'll buy one at the full launch RRP but if not even if it goes down to half price I'll swerve it.

Really is a case of sit and wait for me

Another Playstation Move or even Kinect in the making me thinks.

The first ever augemented reality VR headset circa 1968 >

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtwZXGprxag

Btw the guy that invented it (Ivan Sutherland) was a genius.

Another of his inventions (truly amazing he was able to do object orientated computer aided design in 1963) >

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6orsmFndx_o

Decades ahead of his time. These people are the real genuises, they're essentially using a potato for a computer and are able to come up with ideas realising technology that never existed before. The ultimate potato hack.

And how much is your TV?

The fact Sony have barely promoted this yet does not fill me with confidence. I think they'll start promoting it more once the release date for the Neo is announced as the vanilla PS4 experience is going to be lacking.
I can see another Wii type of situation but without the huge sales. People will likely be impressed by the innovation but will quickly tire of the primitive graphics and the inevitable shovelware, it'll be gathering dust in a cupboard in 18 months time.

Cost more than the console itself, no chance

1st I've heard of ps4 VR!
How the f*** are they going to get the resolution and fps needed?!

The throughput needed for 2160 x 1200 @ 90fps, 110 FOV is an order of magnitude beyond what the ps4 is capable of in modern games.
Or are we going to be seeing a return to ps3 graphics quality?

If you buy this you will have a use for the move and PS4 camera :stuck_out_tongue:

I was on the fence about this myself, but the 11 year old asked for one for Christmas so I get to play it risk free :smiley:

Can't understand people voting cold. I can't see it cheaper anywhere else. Thanks OP :smiley:

I ain't bothering with this. Been stung by Sony with Move and PS Camera before. After a while support will dwindle and you'll be left with a paperweight that has no new games. If not then maybe I will buy one but Sony's past record isn't great on supporting new peripherals.

all ps4 games can be played in cinema mode with a max screen size of 226'' and movies

beyond my budget

What nice stuff is appearing? So far I've been extremely underwhelmed by the games, the release games were pretty average (except Tiltbrush). I'll probably be buying Call of the Starseed tonight, but other than that the rest of the games look horribly overpriced/poor value for money.

Very dependent on the rig running the Oculus. But you are right, there is plenty junk out there for Oculus & Vive. But at the same time, there is also some very good stuff. If you have a high end card and add some supersampling, it can make quite a difference. But you'll struggle to much supersampling on anything lower than a 980ti, and ideally you want to be running a 1080+ to really get the benefit from it.

But at the same time, it doesn't need to be "lifelike" GFX. The sense of immersion is so much higher (like, orders of magnitude higher) than anything on a flat screen (and anyone comparing it to 3D games doesn't have a clue) that you can get away with more simplistic GFX.

Something like Agent Omega is a good example. It's certainly not the greatest of games, and in 2D, the GFX would be laughable. But it demonstrates the freedom VR gives you pretty well. Even my OH, who really hates heights and flying, enjoyed blasting around in that.

I know what you mean and I agree (also Vive owner). There is some nice stuff appearing for it now, but it does still feel early days. And it needs GFX grunt. I've already splurged on a 980ti and will have no qualms about switching up to the 1080ti as and when it appears. Given what I've spent on PC VR, I'll have no issue with adding a PS4.5 + VR to the collection. As long as it warrants it.

The console crowd will be expecting Sony to launch with a perfect version of Fallout or Uncharted or something so I'm intrigued to see what Sony can come up with.

I just hope they don't throw them in with it running badly on a standard PS4 using stick movement (hello motion sickness) for distance locomotion.

The better Sony can do it, the more it benefits all of us early adopters.

its 60 fps min preferably higher and than sony is using some special software to upscalle the framrate to even higher playstation vr has potential to run at 120 fps max, that is higher that the occulus or the vive. Yes your right about graphics being sacrificed but the games i have played on occulus and have been a few looked like crap as well when it came to graphics have not seen any that looked amazing yet. I can understand what developers feel like when they says that the processing power is the bottlenek for games for the playstation as people expect games to look amazing these days and these developers normally make games that look amazing so for them its a step back to make games that don't look amazing but run smooth at 60 fps min as there use to delivering games for the ps4 that run 30 fps :P

The future of the VR industry depends on how well Sony pulls off VR. Personally, I think they should market it only for NEO owners, as the low res or fps people will get on PS4 may put people off. Hopefully Sony have a few tricks up their sleeves to keep FPS and apparant resolution and graphics high, e.g. using cell shading instead of texture maps, and using other stylised art designs to make things look pretty without requiring a hulking GPU to produce. Even my Vive doesn't feel like it's quite there yet, so Sony has a big task on their hands.

For one: http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/ps4-neo-vs-ps4-ps4k

Which mentions:

"The complaint stems from the fact Sony has specified that all VR games have to run at 60fps minimum to avoid any issues with lag and motion sickness, which is a tricky task for the current PS4. The new console's extra processing grunt will ensure that the experience is smooth without developers having to compromise too much on graphical detail." (See my previous post. Resolution will go as you CANNOT sacrifice FPS. Even moreso if you're starting form a lower 60fps baseline ...)

60fps is not enough.

For VR to be convincing you need good resolution, high FPS, and as big a FOV as possible. Oculus and Vive run @ 90fps. If the current PS4 is struggling to manage 60fps, you're gonna want the Neo.

Sure, it'll work(ish) on the current model but personally, I wouldn't touch it without the Neo.

I honestly hope Sony do a good job with this. The ready-made PS4 market is MUCH easier to tap into than the current PC one. So it has the potential to give the entire VR sector a big boost. So I honestly hope the current PS4 manages to do at least an OK enough job of it that people will use it.

All over priced at the moment...especially with new consoles on the way. My advice, wait till there's some proven software, and wait till they figure out walking. Least don't buy it blindly...wait till its out and test it first.

Unless of course you're hoping to get it anywhere close to release day and planning to stick it on ebay?...then, go for it.

It says in the Tesco blurb "Order now for delivery on day of launch" so I am really tempted ...

... but not sure that I can make enough space available to use it -

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/07/sony-announces-playstation-vr-space-requirements-is-your-room-big-enough/

nothing is known about the neo, 7th of september there will be info released about it.

That is the thing i am not sure if the original playstation 4 will struggles with it, and i have not heard any reviewer say this only one person has said it might be awefull and than again he didn't specify if it was with the extra processor or not at the time. Furthermore i believe games specific designed for playstation VR might even run smoother than the ones for PC VR as PC VR games once again need to be designed to run over a specific range of different cards and processors were and the pc is not dedicated to just that game there is always stuff running in the background, the playstation VR games only need to make sure they run smooth over 1 type in total so they tend to spend more time focusing on making that perfect. You could argue that games don't always run smooth of ps4 however i find this 99% of the time happens with games that are designed to run over multiple type of concolse and the pc, looking at games that are exclusive to ps4 i haven't found one that didn't run smooth though that is my personal experience.

I think playstation VR is going to suprise us all and probly the one VR that is going to drive the VR market atm as this is the one the public can actually afford. Its not the most inovative/amazing VR experience compared to the PC VR but it will probly be the one driving the VR market.

Source? Everything I have read has been positive and the PS4 doesn't have any issues running VR.

If the original PS4 struggles with this (and it will, good VR needs BIG GFX grunt) then you are either going to have to sacrifice resolution or framerate/latency. And it will be resolution that suffers as you can't really get away with low framerate/high latency as this ruins the effect and causes motion sickness.

If the PS VR turns out to have enough exclusive content over the PC version, and does it well enough, I may get it alongside the Vive. But if I do, it will be with a PS4.5. I'm using a 980ti with the Vive and would still like more GFX power.

How much is the 4.5 looking like clocking in at? And when?

VR is interesting, when you try it you start to understand why it has so much potential for gaming and films. However, if people were not willing to wear a pair of cheap plastic glasses for 3D how much traction this will get is debatable. This is a very good entry point if it's your thing, when you look at a PC setup is over £1000 and then some However like others I am willing to wait for awhile. More interested in 4k PS4 that is capable and this is as a possible later add on.

How good is tesco delivering these kind of thing? It doesn't have click&collect

Thanks,i got one.

HEAT! Cancelled my Amazon pre order @ £349.99 and ordered this with club card points brings it down to £326 not inc TCB @ £6.66 cash back :P

hmm think i'll wait to see how launch goes and what the games are like etc

​Isn't that the reason they added the processor chip you get with the vr apperently with that chips it works quiet well, of course on the neo it will work even better but that is still some time away. we will all see in 2 months time how well it works.

I think £329 is way too much to pay, when the console itself can be bought for circa £200. Will the psvr really make gaming 115% better than it currently is?

Is there anywhere I can test one of these? I've tried the Samsung VR and it's pretty awesome but too gimmicky, I can imagine these would be the same? Playing Call of Duty and being able to look round while having full control of your gun would be pretty epic but then again, for how long?

Looking forward to the PS4 Neo though.

How much??!!!. Wait a year and these will go the same route as 3D has & be a third of the price. Just wish these inventors would realise that most people don't want to wear glass or headsets inorder to joy something. Not voting either way

So say I dont care about vr. Can I watch a normal
Movie on here as in a cinema headset

The annoying thing in the reviews - nobody mentions anything about those who wear glasses.

Yes they do but why would that matter in this case, as there price guarantee only reflects prices of amazon.co.uk self. Thus if there price never chances which it hasn't since you could pre-order it the price i will pay wont change now if they decided to price match at some point before despatching i would pay a lower price. However in this case they wont price match as your not really paying 329.00 pounds for it your paying 349.00 pound and using a voucher for 20 pounds off. Amazon will only see the 349.00 pound and doesn't count the voucher, so no luck there on getting price matched.

So if its £329 on its own how much is the PS4.5 Neo going to be bundled....£700 ?

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Nice price wont be using it got mine of amazon.co.uk for £330.87 got student discount of the normal 350 price tage so its only 1.87 pounds more expensive but wont have to pay upfront.

Not a bad deal but no way id give them that much cash upfront when their stock could be delayed for a few weeks. If only they took funds on delivery

​go into a store and try a vive. its not necessarily representative of psvr but it gives you a rough idea.

Just had £6.58 quidco track too...not bad

hmm wonder how many club card exchange vouchers I have lol

​There will be a lot of impressions in the wild (and hopefully demo stations) by the time this releases; even those few extra days this ahipping is delayed will help. But it's not going down in price for minimum a year, so if I want it this will be the cheapest. May as well preorder now and I can cancel if I want. I may even check the returns terms and conditions to see whether I could return if after delivery...

You're welcome mate, braver man than me as I'm very much on the fence about VR so am not buying in to it till I am convinced it will be more than a short term gimmick.

​Thanks, just cancelled and re-ordered on a 0% credit card...that way no money's coming out my account now.

So I heard 50% of launch stock was allocated to preorders, so people could actually get one in the wild on launch day...I guess they ate expecting a second delivery a week later...

looks cheap...do you know if tesco charge up front for preorders?

thought release day pre orders were all spoken for?

I have ordered games from them.
Always got them the day they come out.