Bit of an exaggeration....About 6 phones have been released with 6Gb of Ram and they are generally flagships, even then it's just for bragging rights, Android still doesn't need that much... 1-2Gb is the
norm for phones in this price band...

Wileyfox Spark is worth a look while it's on offer at Amazon for £69.99
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wileyfox-Spark-SIM-Free-Android-Smartphone/dp/B01HG00K1U/

Does not matter how many times you say it, it still will not be true.

the whole idea of lollypop and marshmallow according to Google was that phones with as little as half a gig of ram could work fine.it was predicted to be less ram intensive.all major sites like techradar mentioned this.android should run fine on one gb of ram.two gb at most.the 6gb of ram phones are stupid.it just encourages waste and makes manufacturers lazy in ram management.it is ofcorse now a selling point more ram better phone.they run out of ideas.im not a fan of apple phones but they have the right idea small increments each new generation but software that is made to run to perfectection on lesser specs instead of the android steroid approach pumping full of higher numbers

Shame EE don't do something like this

Just get this and have the phone unlocked for about £1 from ebay

Think I would rather grab the Idol 3 brand new for the same price, slightly more ram and 1080 x 1920 screen.

Edit: my mistake, this is the 4.7" which has a screen res of 720 x 1280

Can you please provide a link/ share a deal for the phone you are referring to?

Not at all bad. £10 more gets a new one at Vodafone, but they have no stock. So, heat for your deal!

Here you go, there's a few comparisons out there for these two.

https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/alcatel/idol3/#contractType=payasyougo

Desperate to get hold of the 16GB for a sensible price...and no, the G4 is too big!!

Only 1gb ram in Android phone. Will run out of memory all the time. Better spend little more and get decent phone with at least 2gb ram. Nowadays latest Android phones come with 6gb ram.

​This one only has 1.5gb ram so still useless.

Hence the word slightly, what's acceptable for one person is different than for another.

​screen on that is 720 same as Moto g

Nicely spotted didn't notice it was the 4.7" model, long day should be asleep :laughing:

Guys you should really learn how android manages RAM.

https://developer.android.com/training/articles/memory.html#Android

the whole idea of lollypop and marshmallow according to Google was that phones with as little as half a gig of ram could work fine.it was predicted to be less ram intensive.all major sites like techradar mentioned this.android should run fine on one gb of ram.two gb at most.the 6gb of ram phones are stupid.it just encourages waste and makes manufacturers lazy in ram management.it is ofcorse now a selling point more ram better phone.they run out of ideas.im not a fan of apple phones but they have the right idea small increments each new generation but software that is made to run to perfectection on lesser specs instead of the android steroid approach pumping full of higher numbers

I agree with some of what you are saying until you got to Apple. They run the older models into the ground with the new iOS updates to drive an upgrade. Or that's certainly how it feels.

I use this phone and the 1 GB of ram is fine. Been using it a couple of months. The 8gb storage is more of a restriction, but not one that has stopped me from having any apps that I wanted. That said I don't ever game on my phone.

Great phone. Very light weight for it's size.

Tried to order but it got all they way to the end, after credit card and says to check my address. Confirmed it was not my card, the bank said payment was approved but o2 did not complete. Phoned o2 and could not do an order over the phone as not in there system or tell me if anything was wrong (near perfect option did not show in their system - computer says no). Has anyone managed to purchase this recently / last few hours?

Great phone, works very well for me and updates to latest Android - but then I have a life outside of a phone screen too!

Looks like either the site is not working or no stock? expired?

The Wileyfox Swift is £121.98 on Amazon, and £99.99 on ebay :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/281943523775?lpid=122&chn=ps&googleloc=1006864&poi=&campaignid=625768298&device=c&adgroupid=28052981946&rlsatarget=pla-183556656066&adtype=pla&crdt=0

I waited a week or more for these to come back into stock. Gave up and bought a new one at £99 instead, and took delivery Yesterday !!
Still very pleased with with it, and can claw some money back by selling the 3 free back covers that come with it.

As to memory and specs etc.. there seems to be an ongoing trend to must have MOAR!!! it's always better.
Not necessarily. I'm upgrading from a 512mb Huawei G300 that was still able to do everything I wanted out of a phone (all be it slowly), so I'm sure this Moto G3 will do just fine, first impressions confirm this.
I don't want to listen to my music from the cloud, whilst playing GTA, and Twittering on FaceChatWhatsLinkdBook, whilst controlling my heating at home.

I did also consider the Idol 3 (whilst it was a tenner more) but decided the backup from Alcatel would not match Moto, almost all mentions I found of Alcatel stated their support was almost non existent. Much the same story with Wileyfox ...

If you can get one of these at this price then I would say it's a bargain for a good reliable phone that will do what most people want of it.

I take it that you have to buy credit with this? If so does that make it 79.99?

Cannot check out without selecting a tariff as far as I can see?

@ genemeanie You have to select one, but they don't charge you for it up front. Select it, go to checkout and the Tariff shows zero cost.

I'm also still on a first gen Moto G and it works, but I'm frequently aware of it being a low ram device with it's pauses, slow downs and screen redraws.

That I bought that for £90 two years ago and nothing has come along as a compelling budget upgrade yet is really disappointing though.

Got one of these last week and love it. Mint condition and delivered next day for £70 - Cant go wrong :sunglasses:

​Rubbish. 2gb is absolute minimum for Android.

Does not matter how many times you say it, it still will not be true.

Better spend £10 more for this one: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/obi-worldphone-mv1-pre-order-only-79-99-amazon-2493330
Brand new, quad-core CPU, 2GB ram, MicroSD slot, removable battery and UK warranty. I believe that deal deserves more heat than this, "Like new" 1GB Ram Moto. Sorry OP, not voting here.

Utter Tosh...
Have a Moto G, 4 tablets (2x Lenovo's and 2x HP Touchpads) an Android TV box and even an Android car stereo in my house all running quite happily with 1Gb ram....

That phone has a shocking CPU though that will cripple it....

​Not really. I know so many people who bought shiny new Samsung or other branded cut price phones having trouble due to less ram memory. Tablets have also now started coming with 4gb ram. Only windows mobile and apple IOS can run properly on 1gb ram. Even then new iPhone has 3gb ram

Thanks for letting us know. Just voted cold on it.

Samsung phones use a skinned version of Android which requires more RAM to run smoothly than stock Android.

The Moto G uses (virtually) stock Android, so will be fine for most people.

Also the iPhone 6S (and likely the iPhone 7 too) has 2GB of RAM, not 3.

​No not really. You have to run a memory cleaner like clean master all the time to reclaim memory. I have seen other Chinese white phones all fail due to less memory. Only solution is to use memory manager to aggressivly close apps and reclaim memory.

Sam_of_London

aka Mr 6GB......

The screen res has an effect on Ram, if you are running 1080 then yes 2gb, at 720 1gb is ok. As for 8gb rom....

heat for a decent work phone. good deal. picking mine up on weds!

Can you tell me how for PAYG as this is what it says when I look "Pay As You Go customers
If you're on Pay As You Go, your O2 phone can be unlocked 12 months after you bought it. It’ll cost you £15, which we'll deduct from your airtime balance"

Should be able to get an Unlock code off ebay for a few quid.

I've been looking for reviews of the 1GB/8GB version so thanks :smiley: Originally I was wondering whether I should regret my purchase but mum isn't a power user, but is always moaning about her Blade L2. This has a better camera, processor and battery, and twice the storage - hopefully she'll be happier with this.

Got it from Amazon Warehouse for £23.27.

Edit: Forgot to add, also 4G, better screen and IPX7 water resistance.

my phone arrived faulty, sim slot doesn`t work, i will send back, crap

​The L2 looked the part but that's about it.

I put mine on eBay last year.

The 1gb/8gb 3rd Gen should be fine for your mum.

Agreed. Not for everyone's mum, mind.

I'm gonna CEX the Blade L2 :smile: Mum did say (quite sweetly I thought), "Will I have to learn how to use this one as well?"

No, mum, it's the same operating system.

Being a gurl I'm used to being talked to like an idiot by Currys staff members, etc.

Anyone can provide a link to a cheap branded 16GB/ 32GB Micro SD card?

​Buy a better phone based on snapdragon 820. Will be pleasantly surprised how better they are compared to this one.

Just a heads up if you're planning on returning, it is a right pain in the ass to do so.

I bought one for the missus, we seem to be having random sound issues, like it rings normally for a bit, then suddenly you get missed calls and texts because it did not audibly ring.

Anyone else seem this, guess its also out of warranty now also, purchased July 2016