Oh. Didn't think of that :P Will try it tomorrow and report back. My workaround solution in the interim was to get the word document looking how I wanted it to look and then sending on as a pdf (converting to pdf captures what you see of the finished document where sending as a docx file results in a messy missing formats file being sent).
sunnydurian
18 Aug 16#3
For those who got this, do you get the 100 GB free space in Google Drive for 2 years?
leaston
18 Aug 16#4
Yes, I redeemed it earlier. It took around 2hrs for it to be applied. Mine is now showing 115Gb total available.
You also get 3mths Google Play Music free too.
sunnydurian
18 Aug 16#5
Thanks for the confirmation :smile:
Gavin01
18 Aug 16#6
still don't know why ms closed man messenger then changed it all to Skype.....all my online buddies that used man rarely used Skype me included as it always says some one is online when there computer is not even on.....got a fifty quid amazon voucher to use so may well dive in......does Netflix work ok?
abu77
18 Aug 16#7
Netflix works fine. BT Sport as well. Amazon Fire TV streaming on the other hand does not work.
TylerDurdenUK
18 Aug 16#8
Do you mean amazon prime video? I had that working in the browser yesterday.
Gavin01
18 Aug 16#9
excellent thanks
brypie
18 Aug 16#10
yep. I love my C720 (ditched windows a while ago). ... but it's not on the list for android play integration, so I'm on the lookout for a new one. Acer Chromebook 14 or Toshiba Chromebook 2 are the current front runners. Unless anyone wants to donate a pixel!!
remlap
18 Aug 16#11
Anyone else crouton there's yet? Far easier than I expected.
leaston
18 Aug 16#12
I'm still looking through the documentation. How is performance with XFCE compared to vanilla Chrome OS?
remlap
18 Aug 16#13
It's as well as Chrome OS basically, it's personally fine and nippy, plays 1080p video fine, plus considering the file size for the VLC chrome app at over 250MB I think a full OS is a better choice, plus the benefits of connecting to other networks for media.
But for browsing and the like I just either logout of xenial or press ctlr + alt + forward or back.
leaston
18 Aug 16#14
Great stuff, thanks for the reply. I'm just creating a recovery image and will have a go later today :smile:
JohnBUK
18 Aug 16#15
Just a reminder to those interested in running Linux on this machine (or any chromebook) you will have to change your CB to "Developer Mode" which negates to some extent the built-in security of chromebooks and the OS. I'm sure you know this anyway! With 16Gb of SSD you might find it useful to run Linux off a USB3 or SD Card alongside ChromeOS. This is an excellent tutorial for running Ubuntu with Xfce desktop environment which consists of a Google Doc and a link to a superb Youtube run through. I have had this set up (with Unity) for 2 years on my HP14 CB which only has 2Gb RAM - runs fine. Good luck and enjoy your chromebooks.
remlap
18 Aug 16#16
Great stuff make sure it installs xenial otherwise 12.04 which is 4 generations old now.
leaston
18 Aug 16#17
Oh, that's a bu**er. It's currently installing 12.04. I didn't realise it wouldn't install the latest when following this guide: How to geek
No drama, I'll just disable and re-enable dev mode and start again with the correct command line switches! :stuck_out_tongue:
abu77
18 Aug 16#18
Yes. Was on infinite loop trying to load on my machine
Pspvita
18 Aug 16#19
Anyone got a solid guide how to install Xenial on this chrombook?
leaston
18 Aug 16#20
I'm using the one linked below right now and am waiting for the install to complete. Seems to be working so far....I made the mistake of following a different guide earlier that installed using Crouton defaults and I ended up with a very old version of Ubuntu (see remlap's post above): Crouton install guide
remlap
18 Aug 16#21
Also I've discovered there is a package manager for ChromeOS
https://skycocker.github.io/chromebrew/
Not tried it yet.
leaston
18 Aug 16#22
Anyone having issues with the touchpad after installing Xenial? Mine is shockingly unresponsive and doesn't register finger movements well or taps unless I do them a few times.
remlap
18 Aug 16#23
Yep shockingly bad in every release I've tried, I used a mouse though so never got round to fixing it.
If it works add that script to your start up software :smile:
leaston
18 Aug 16#25
I resorted to using a mouse too, but that worked really well!!! Duly added to the start up list. All your help is greatly appreciated :grin:
remlap
18 Aug 16#26
Awesome mate!
Pspvita
18 Aug 16#27
How can i install kodi on xfce? I have xfce installed now.
Pspvita
18 Aug 16#28
How do you add that to your statup script not sure.
leaston
18 Aug 16#29
Do the following... Applications Settings Open 'Session and Startup' Select the Application Autostart tab Click 'Add' Give the new setting a name. I called it 'Touchpad fix' Add a description if you want to Enter the command provided by remlap into the 'Command' box Click ok and restart Linux. That should be it. Hope that helps.
After spending all evening trying to sort this issue out, I have thrown in the towel. The only way I can get Ubuntu Software Center to install anything is by opening it via shell rather than the Applications menu. Likewise Software Updater and others.
It looks like the whole issue is because apps which need elevated permissions aren't being passed through authentication and so won't work correctly if you try and open them without explicitly using sudo or gksudo. There are loads of forum posts about this problem (Google 'crouton policykit error' or similar). I've read that this bug was fixed a while ago and has since been reintroduced.
If anyone does know of a fix that works, please put me out of my misery and post here. I've tried checking that policykit is ticked in startup and used various commands offered as suggestions in lots of different forum posts, to no avail oO
Pspvita
19 Aug 16#35
What runs better unity or xfce on this chrombook.
leaston
19 Aug 16#36
I'm using XFCE and it runs just as well as Chrome (touchpad issues notwithstanding!).
From what I read, Unity doesn't work at the moment with Chromebooks, although that's only based on things I have seen in forums today. Take with a pinch of salt.
Pspvita
19 Aug 16#37
Your missing the point the price and the portability along with what you can do on this machine bargain for £99
remlap
19 Aug 16#38
Unity will install under trusty but not xenial I think.
alared
19 Aug 16#39
Is the left/right click very noisey?
Smash41
19 Aug 16#40
You really are better off paying a little more and getting a Chromebook with 4gb RAM.
Tenex
19 Aug 16#41
Is there any way of improving the contrast on this screen?
EazyDuz
19 Aug 16#42
cold tiny screen
abu77
20 Aug 16#43
I can confirm Amazon Prime Video (not sure why I called it Amazon Fire TV :P) works fine now. Must have been the shoddy broadband in my flat ??
abu77
20 Aug 16#44
I meant Amazon Prime Video when I said Amazon Fire TV, Amazon Prime Video works fine - not sure why it was on infinite loop when I tried it first off! This little machine just got a little sweeter for me :grin:
presterjohn71
20 Aug 16#45
Took a chance on buying one of these and I am so far impressed. It takes a while to set up and learn but once you do it does everything it needs to at a fair if not speedy pace. It does lag a bit but not so much that it irritates or hangs.
presterjohn71
20 Aug 16#46
No such product exists. So what is your point?
Smash41
20 Aug 16#47
Yes they do. I have one myself. In fact im typing on it now. Toshiba Chromebook 2 is the one I have.
wavefront
20 Aug 16#48
Has anyone managed to enable the legacy bios?
leaston
20 Aug 16#49
In your humble opinion eh?! :wink: You might feel better off spending more money to get 4Gb and that's great for you. I happen to completely disagree and am happy with 2Gb :sunglasses:
Smash41
20 Aug 16#50
Try opening 5-10+ tabs and then see how it handles hehe
JohnnyUtah
20 Aug 16#51
I am more than happy with my Acer C720 except for my wifi problem. The matt screen hides all the reflections from my daughter always leaving lights on and it scoots along when connected to the 5ghz range.
BigYoSpeck
20 Aug 16#52
Try only spending £99 on a brand new device with 4gb of ram. See telling someone to do something they can't do doesn't matter if they don't want to do it and are happy with the way they are doing it. You're happy to spend more money on a more powerful device you can do more on. That guys happy to do less on a device that cost him less.
Oh and next request:
leaston
20 Aug 16#53
It handles half a dozen or so tabs in Chrome OS with Ubuntu in the background just fine. Why wouldn't it?
The point you're missing is that for a £99 spend I've got a really nice Chromebook that does everything I could possible need it to - I did my homework before buying it and to spend significantly more on a 4Gb model would have been a waste of money for my needs. Yours clearly differ.
When I'm out and about or fancy sitting in a cafe for an hour or two browsing the WWW I don't need 4Gb RAM. All the things it can't do (Photoshop, Lightroom, PC gaming etc.) I'll carry on using my 16Gb i7 laptop for.
Despite what you seem to think, I haven't wasted any money and am really happy with this Chromebook. Even with its paltry 2Gb :sunglasses:
leaston
20 Aug 16#54
I'm currently sat with Chrome OS running four tabs and a few browser plugins...in the background. In the foreground, I'm using the latest Ubuntu with XFCE. This in turn is running Wine (Linux software that allows you to install and run native Windows software) and within Wine I'm analysing a chess game with the Windows version of Arena Chess and the Rybka 3 chess engine. There's no stuttering or lag and according to Arena I have 883Mb of RAM left, even with the analysis engine running. The battery is at 93% and I have approx 9hr 48m left before it runs out.
Not bad for a dirt cheap Chromebook with only 2Gb! Best £99 I've spent in a long time :stuck_out_tongue:
Tenex
21 Aug 16#55
Cast the screen to a Chromecast and the playback was very jerky (standard OS). Anyone else experience the same? Is it possible to playback only on the Chromecast and not on the N22 screen simultaneously?
Neil49
21 Aug 16#56
I'm not a fan of track pads, does anyone know if you can successfully connect a wired or wireless mouse to this via the USB port or Bluetooth?
TheRatedSeller
21 Aug 16#57
this or the surface pro 4? Price doesnt matter :grin:
maxeyt
21 Aug 16#58
Get both :stuck_out_tongue:
cbme
21 Aug 16#59
It works fine with a Logitech wireless mouse although the transceiver takes up one of the two USB ports. I tried using a USB hub to compensate for that and it worked fine too. I find the trackpad is fine, but prefer to use a mouse if I'm at a desk or table.
leaston
22 Aug 16#60
I use a generic non-branded wireless mouse (using a USB transceiver) and it works without any fuss in both Chrome OS and Ubuntu.
MBCH
22 Aug 16#61
Gone up to £143 now......so glad I got this at £99, cheers Op!
jayt7
22 Aug 16#62
£143 now, so I am wondering if it will ever go down under £99 in a near future? Amazon prices fluctuate a lot, mind you!
remlap
22 Aug 16#63
Bluetooth mice works fine in both OS's too but need to be paired in Chrome OS if you've chroutoned it.
RiverDragon8
23 Aug 16#64
How do you switch between chrome OS and ubuntu? [ctrl]+[alt]+[shift]+[back] or [forward] doesn't work.
rumble
23 Aug 16#65
Using it for the first time just now and I'm very impressed so far. Quicker for browsing than my i5 laptop and google docs does everything I need it too....this'll transform my studies. Feels very strong and as a 'serial dropper' that's crucial for me. Delighted.
salvogarbo
23 Aug 16#66
expired... it's gone back up in price.
remlap
23 Aug 16#67
May seem obvious but are you running it in crosh?
RiverDragon8
23 Aug 16#68
I've found the fix, I needed to type in sudo startxfce4 in crosh.
leaston
23 Aug 16#69
Sorry, I didn't see your post until just now. Glad you got it sorted :grin:
Fano
26 Aug 16#70
Unity works just fine,I have it running on this machine .
brumtom
30 Aug 16#71
Its back at £99.99!
Picard123
31 Aug 16#72
2gb is usable. 4gb is better if you work with alot of media heavy tabs open as Chrome can run out of memory and crash individual page tabs.
KongDonkey
4 Sep 16#73
I agree. Since I got this I haven't really used my tablet. I watch Amazon / Netflix on this with no problems. Great Chromebook. So quick to start up too.
brumtom
16 Sep 16#74
Back at £99.99 somebody please unexpire!
spudbynight
24 Sep 16#75
If it was on Infinite Loop then maybe Apple was interfering in some way? You don't want to get too close to those guys.
abu77
26 Sep 16#76
Go on. Take a lol off me. You've earned it :face_with_monocle:
abu77
26 Sep 16#77
Go on. Take a lol off me. You've earned it :face_with_monocle:
KongDonkey
22 Sep 17#78
22/9/2017 My N22 can now install Android apps form the play store. Spotify and Netflix working well and now looking for some more to install.
Opening post
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Will try it tomorrow and report back.
My workaround solution in the interim was to get the word document looking how I wanted it to look and then sending on as a pdf (converting to pdf captures what you see of the finished document where sending as a docx file results in a messy missing formats file being sent).
You also get 3mths Google Play Music free too.
... but it's not on the list for android play integration, so I'm on the lookout for a new one. Acer Chromebook 14 or Toshiba Chromebook 2 are the current front runners. Unless anyone wants to donate a pixel!!
It's as well as Chrome OS basically, it's personally fine and nippy, plays 1080p video fine, plus considering the file size for the VLC chrome app at over 250MB I think a full OS is a better choice, plus the benefits of connecting to other networks for media.
But for browsing and the like I just either logout of xenial or press ctlr + alt + forward or back.
With 16Gb of SSD you might find it useful to run Linux off a USB3 or SD Card alongside ChromeOS. This is an excellent tutorial for running Ubuntu with Xfce desktop environment which consists of a Google Doc and a link to a superb Youtube run through. I have had this set up (with Unity) for 2 years on my HP14 CB which only has 2Gb RAM - runs fine. Good luck and enjoy your chromebooks.
How to geek
No drama, I'll just disable and re-enable dev mode and start again with the correct command line switches! :stuck_out_tongue:
Crouton install guide
https://skycocker.github.io/chromebrew/
Not tried it yet.
xinput set-prop "Elan Touchpad" "Synaptics Finger" 5 20 255
If it works add that script to your start up software :smile:
Applications
Settings
Open 'Session and Startup'
Select the Application Autostart tab
Click 'Add'
Give the new setting a name. I called it 'Touchpad fix'
Add a description if you want to
Enter the command provided by remlap into the 'Command' box
Click ok and restart Linux. That should be it. Hope that helps.
Use this in terminal to install it:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:team-xbmc/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kodi
To fix the touchpad:
Applications > Settings > Sessions and Startup > Application Autostart > Add
Name: Touchpad
Description: Corrects Touchpad Sensitivity
Command: xinput set-prop "Elan Touchpad" "Synaptics Finger" 5 20 255
sudo apt-get install software-properties-common python-software-properties
sudo add-apt-repository https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/14.04/main
wget --no-check-certificate download.01.org/gfx…ilg -O - | sudo apt-key add -
wget --no-check-certificate download.01.org/gfx…g-2 -O - | sudo apt-key add -
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
You should do this though to stop tearing;
ubuntuforums.org/sho…468
After spending all evening trying to sort this issue out, I have thrown in the towel. The only way I can get Ubuntu Software Center to install anything is by opening it via shell rather than the Applications menu. Likewise Software Updater and others.
It looks like the whole issue is because apps which need elevated permissions aren't being passed through authentication and so won't work correctly if you try and open them without explicitly using sudo or gksudo. There are loads of forum posts about this problem (Google 'crouton policykit error' or similar). I've read that this bug was fixed a while ago and has since been reintroduced.
If anyone does know of a fix that works, please put me out of my misery and post here. I've tried checking that policykit is ticked in startup and used various commands offered as suggestions in lots of different forum posts, to no avail oO
From what I read, Unity doesn't work at the moment with Chromebooks, although that's only based on things I have seen in forums today. Take with a pinch of salt.
In fact im typing on it now.
Toshiba Chromebook 2 is the one I have.
You might feel better off spending more money to get 4Gb and that's great for you. I happen to completely disagree and am happy with 2Gb :sunglasses:
Oh and next request:
The point you're missing is that for a £99 spend I've got a really nice Chromebook that does everything I could possible need it to - I did my homework before buying it and to spend significantly more on a 4Gb model would have been a waste of money for my needs. Yours clearly differ.
When I'm out and about or fancy sitting in a cafe for an hour or two browsing the WWW I don't need 4Gb RAM. All the things it can't do (Photoshop, Lightroom, PC gaming etc.) I'll carry on using my 16Gb i7 laptop for.
Despite what you seem to think, I haven't wasted any money and am really happy with this Chromebook. Even with its paltry 2Gb :sunglasses:
Not bad for a dirt cheap Chromebook with only 2Gb! Best £99 I've spent in a long time :stuck_out_tongue:
Great Chromebook. So quick to start up too.
My N22 can now install Android apps form the play store. Spotify and Netflix working well and now looking for some more to install.