nice but unfortunately not a great laptop overall especially for the cost. In my experience consumer laptops are generally overpriced and don't last as long as business grade ones - like the Lenovo X series or older T models which seem to last forever. just another mac copy!
Picard123
4 Aug 16#30
I've been using IBM/Lenovo laptops since IBM's original Thinkpad range. I've owned Thinkpads in the past and I even have one of Lenovo's current laptops as well as the XPS 13. One thing that has happened since Lenovo bought out IBM's laptop division is that they've cheapened the products and the manufacturing and component quality has gone down in the name of cost cutting. Quality is nothing like the original Thinkpads.
As an ultraportable, the Yoga 12 is a joke. 1.6kg without PSU and 1" thick when in tablet mode? The thing is a brick. Poor real world battery life, atrocious Adobe colour gamut, average keyboard, silly hardware whitelist, paper display problems etc etc. It's not a terrible laptop (when it works) but it's not a premium laptop that you would choose over the best of the best.
Dell on the other hand, have maintained a premium line within their laptop range. The XPS13 is simply superb. Quite easily the best Windows ultraportable out there. 'Playing around with the laptop' at a conference is not using the laptop on a day to day basis. In real world long term usage, the XPS13 blows the Yoga 12 completely out of the water; they're not even in the same market segment - the XPS13 is in a premium tier above the Yoga 12.
plap
4 Aug 16#29
Well, am kind of familiar with both = I played around with current model XPS13 at a conference (had it about half a day to present stuff rom) and my previous work laptop was the 1st gen ThinkPad Yoga 12 with an i5 (this is the 2nd gen) and I have to say - I prefer the ThinkPad, the screen res is higher on the Dell but most of the time I write code so higher res wouldn't benefit me (have a Surface Pro 3 at work with Win 10 too and find the resolution too high, have to scale it down)
Picard123
4 Aug 16#28
XPS13 blows it out of the water. You need to use both of these in the real world rather than quoting paper specs regarding machines you're unfamiliar with.
plap
4 Aug 161#27
It doesn't - depends on the model.
This is the previous gen ThinkPad (hence why it's cheaper) and the specs are better than the base model XPS13 (which will cost you more) = Lenovo has i7 processor is slightly faster than the i5-6200u, has double the RAM (8Gb instead of 4Gb) and SSD (256Gb instead of 128Gb) a touchscreen and longer warranty period.
jamesha
4 Aug 16#26
Windows 7 so you would need to pay for 10 (if you want it) now the free upgrade period is over
Picard123
3 Aug 16#25
XPS13 blows the Yoga 12 out of the water.
Picard123
3 Aug 16#24
That's the price you pay for portability AND a super powerful GPU of your choice.
Otherwise get the XPS15 with i7/960GTX.
Or the XPS13 if don't need the graphics capability.
GuigsyUK
3 Aug 16#23
And the Razor Core doesn't appear to be available yet and if/when it is, will cost ~£400 plus the cost of a graphics card.
fiatbravodriver
3 Aug 16#21
Is this better than an Dell Xps 13. Its a hell of a lot cheaper.
getknk to fiatbravodriver
3 Aug 16#22
thinkpad hardware are top spec
Picard123
3 Aug 16#20
Plug in the Razor Core and you have a 970GTX.
GuigsyUK
3 Aug 16#19
The Razor Blade Stealth appears to be i7-6500U with Intel HD Graphics 520. So pretty close to this Lenovo.
This, like most ultrabooks, uses an integrated 'Intel HD Graphics' chipset with a low power 'U' processor. As others mentioned, you'll be chopping the resolution and settings down down a fair way on even tame or older games to get 30fps.
There aren't many laptops that weigh 1.5kg and still pack a dedicated nVidia graphics chipset and a full fat 'HQ' CPU. I suspect you aren't referring to a gaming laptop that weighs twice as much and lasts half as long. Not really comparable to this.
LOL.
Schumarvel
2 Aug 16#15
OK. Thanks for the info
Picard123
2 Aug 16#14
LOL. You don't think that a i7-6700HQ and a 960 GTX can handle more than minecraft? :laughing:
frothar
2 Aug 16#12
i have this exact one and it is built like a brick. dropping it while closed will likely not damage it at all
Schumarvel
2 Aug 16#5
Would a surface pro 4 be a good comparison to this? If so which one would be best? Using for school/college. Plus a light bit of gaming.
getknk to Schumarvel
2 Aug 16#7
this is much sturdier. surface pro4 for this spec is around£1200
frothar to Schumarvel
2 Aug 16#11
i got this one last time it was posted and am uusing it atm. It is well built and has a good typing experience. It can play games like League of legends and csgo on the native resolution on low settings at around 30/40fps. downscaling to 720p will give you a good 60 on medium roughly. and will not throttle if you have it somewhere ventilated ie not a bed
mwa
2 Aug 16#6
What PCs branching out into Mac pricing policies are they now?
plap to mwa
2 Aug 16#10
ThinkPads were Macbook prices before Macbooks even existed.
They're business laptops, much better industrial design than a Mac even
(drop a Mac from 1m and it gets dented, drop a ThinkPad and big chance it'll survive)
GuigsyUK
2 Aug 16#9
Ultrabooks are still not a good choice for anything more taxing than Minecraft.
MrPuddington
2 Aug 16#8
Looks nice - I am really tempted.
Vistrix
1 Aug 1611#3
Cold. There was a much better laptop on here the other day for £1.58.
danielUK84 to Vistrix
2 Aug 161#4
Excellent lol!
_anna79_
1 Aug 16#2
really good and worth the money!
KiretoX
1 Aug 16#1
Been that price for months and also posted here at least twice. Other than that great price.
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12.5" Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 12 2in1 Ultrabook,
touch pen
FHD IPS TouchScreen,
Intel 2.6GHz i7 5600U,
8GB DDR3,
256GB SSD,
Win7 Pro+Win8
normally above £1000
also free
- Kensington 15.6" Laptop Backpack
- Computer Essentials Wireless 3 Button Mouse
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Came back to this or a ASUS Zenbook UX303UA.
Scan are a brilliant company to deal with. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A81B4cyeg5A
As an ultraportable, the Yoga 12 is a joke. 1.6kg without PSU and 1" thick when in tablet mode? The thing is a brick. Poor real world battery life, atrocious Adobe colour gamut, average keyboard, silly hardware whitelist, paper display problems etc etc. It's not a terrible laptop (when it works) but it's not a premium laptop that you would choose over the best of the best.
Dell on the other hand, have maintained a premium line within their laptop range. The XPS13 is simply superb. Quite easily the best Windows ultraportable out there. 'Playing around with the laptop' at a conference is not using the laptop on a day to day basis. In real world long term usage, the XPS13 blows the Yoga 12 completely out of the water; they're not even in the same market segment - the XPS13 is in a premium tier above the Yoga 12.
This is the previous gen ThinkPad (hence why it's cheaper) and the specs are better than the base model XPS13 (which will cost you more) = Lenovo has i7 processor is slightly faster than the i5-6200u, has double the RAM (8Gb instead of 4Gb) and SSD (256Gb instead of 128Gb) a touchscreen and longer warranty period.
Otherwise get the XPS15 with i7/960GTX.
Or the XPS13 if don't need the graphics capability.
I'd rather get the Xiaomi Notebook Air. Much thinner, much lighter and cheaper too ~ £550.
https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/27/xiaomi-mi-notebook-air-laptop-china/
There aren't many laptops that weigh 1.5kg and still pack a dedicated nVidia graphics chipset and a full fat 'HQ' CPU. I suspect you aren't referring to a gaming laptop that weighs twice as much and lasts half as long. Not really comparable to this.
LOL.
They're business laptops, much better industrial design than a Mac even
(drop a Mac from 1m and it gets dented, drop a ThinkPad and big chance it'll survive)