I think you mean 'certified' not 'certifiable'. The latter normally refers to mental health issues. OK, maybe you meant to say that.

PS Thanks for the deal btw, a great one.

Well, no. That's nonsense.

At 44.1KHz and above, sampling frequency ceases to be an issue. What determines your sound quality is the mic, the quality of the preamp, and the quality of the ADC. To assume that a phone would be better at recording audio than a purpose-built audio recorder just because it has this app (which I doubt uses anything more than just the stock Android audio libraries) is very naive.

Oh dear. Well, I can see why you went on the offensive with this post.

1) The 'magical cartoonish threshold' of 44.1KHz is not mine, it is from a man named Harry Nyquist. You may be familiar with his work. If you aren't, you should read up on it; it's kind-of an essential if you have any interest in audio engineering. You should also read up on the ramifications of recording at above 44.1KHz.

2) Obviously, recording quality is dependent on lots of factors, but I listed only the top three because they were a bit more relevant and meaningful than just the sampling frequency, which was all you mentioned. Incidentally, I'm not sure why you list post production as one of the things that impact recording quality, or why you mention something as trivial as firmware but not as significant as bit depth.

3) Obviously, I'm talking within a comparable sort of context. Ie. a Zoom H1 against a modern smartphone. I think you're being a bit too silly here.

On the note of civility, you should probably try to heed your own message. You've clearly got a very high opinion of your own knowledge and a very fragile ego, and I suspect that's why you replied to my message, which merely disagreed with you and didn't resort to insults (like yours), with such hostility.

You should grow up a bit. And learn a bit more about audio engineering.

I tested about ten free ones a while back, I only kept these 2 by Sony and Splend:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splendapps.voicerec

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.androidapp.audiorecorder

There is another recorder without Ads. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.terainnovation.smartvoicerecorder.smartvoicerecorderpro&hl=en

He's updated the app in the store.

I'd say try & isolate the issue in two ways:

1) Physical microphone:
Try a few minutes of continuous recording with a minute for the Mic you bought + without Mic + Other Mic(s) you might have or borrow

At start of each recording a minute for each, whisper into it which is which
Test at venue with music.

2) Presets:
Again record half a minute for each preset, click on factory then others one by one, should take fifteen minutes. Again whisper at start which preset is tested. Then at home you can decide. For tests I'd leave other parameters as standard. If necessary reinstall app to default.

I would hazard a guess you've changed some setting while learning the app. And the Mic you bought is probably optimized for dictation in small spaces. Have a look at the video below and look for reviews for whatever you're interested looking for use feedback in similar music spaces such as the Cavern. Also look at Curtis Judd phone Mics review videos in YouTube. Finally might be good to look at phone to normal Mic adapter jacks / splitters which are from a pound to more on eBay, then can test your other mics too.

10 Small phone mics video review here

I'd get an adapter jack and see which current Mic you already have works good after deciding which preset works best in tests. Only then would mess about testing various other parameters. Good luck.

I've tried Field recorder a few times in the cavern club Liverpool , recording a acoustic guitar/vocals over amplified speakers, it's very enclosed venue with brick walls! I've tried altering settings on FR app, set the soft clipping to on and the limit to on, but the playback is distorted, is there anything else I need to alter/set to get the best recording/results BTW I'm using an external microphone " Edutige Eim‑001 I‑Microphone" any help would be most appreciated, thanks
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=tablet-android-google&ei=qyDzV9fxMcKlUf3urKgK&q=edutige+eim-001+i-microphone+voice+recorder&oq=Eim-003+Imicrophone&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.0.0i71k1l3.0.0.0.4404.1.1.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..64.mobile-gws-serp..1.0.0.2YQG_lbAWBU

Yes it does have presets, some of which should suit you fine.

I won't win any technical debate with an audio enthusiast, but I do make YouTube videos a lot and own a Zoom H6 recorder with all mic attachments, a Samson Q2U mic, and a Bluetooth mic. I've also recorded videos using the audio from my smartphone and from my cameras.

There really is no comparison when it comes to audio quality. Even a cheap £30 mic will offer better quality than what's on your phone. You guys are welcome to argue the technical aspects of this, but anyone who has did a lot of recording knows that a smartphone microphone simply can't compare quality to wise with a dedicated microphone or audio recorder.

It keeps recording when I switch the screen on/off a few times. Might be launcher specific or other apps issuing system commands like screen lock apps etc. I'm using Nova.

free at Aptoide.com :wink: try before u buy

How do I record in stereo to my phone? The jack input is only mono mic...

Everyone says different things, a Lavry paper says timing error and "resolution" when downsampling but says 60khz is the magic number, depends who one talks to, numerous different opinions. THX and others are too busy beyond these old wine tasting cliches, feeding higher frequencies into their AI Neural Net architectures and making progress every year. In the film/tv industry, downsampling is the norm and why 88.2 92 96 and 192 are popular. Because when manipulated sp. in time and modified there is more room to play around to get the desired effects and also less residue.

For info on why that number was chosen look – HERE.

Well it does increase the amount of storage required and the overhead for processing more data but what are the other ramifications?

No longer on sale. £4.29 although the icon still says on sale.

More than doubled now to £4.29 and expired, shop closed, move along please.

Brilliant, thank you!

Does this record with the screen off? I forget to increase my timeout and with the built in recorded it stops immediately.

That's an interesting article. Also the word "quality" is not always an absolute given definition. For example if there is noise on one recorder output but not on another, then we can be sure which had better quality, however different test conditions might reverse the results. Other times there are groups of experts who disagree, then if we have a panel we could go by majority vote. A third category is where quality determination is more vague and becomes purely subjective and personal. For a while people who used to prefer old analog recordings were ridiculed and were told you could not possibly be hearing nuances you claim. So quality is not an absolute in all cases. BTW some recorders have features which make post-production cleaning easier.

Interesting conversation about sample rates. I enjoyed this article on that topic.

As predicted waffle and diversion, tell the world and all the engineers and manufacturers to dump anything above 44khz because you and Harry say so. Points 2 and 3, "obviously obviously" excuses putting conditions on your own previous commandments? Obviously you're a loss to the world of politics. Write post #25 a hundred times on your black board. As for the continuing insults, thanks, and try to chill :smiley:

Oh dear. Well, I can see why you went on the offensive with this post.

1) The 'magical cartoonish threshold' of 44.1KHz is not mine, it is from a man named Harry Nyquist. You may be familiar with his work. If you aren't, you should read up on it; it's kind-of an essential if you have any interest in audio engineering. You should also read up on the ramifications of recording at above 44.1KHz.

2) Obviously, recording quality is dependent on lots of factors, but I listed only the top three because they were a bit more relevant and meaningful than just the sampling frequency, which was all you mentioned. Incidentally, I'm not sure why you list post production as one of the things that impact recording quality, or why you mention something as trivial as firmware but not as significant as bit depth.

3) Obviously, I'm talking within a comparable sort of context. Ie. a Zoom H1 against a modern smartphone. I think you're being a bit too silly here.

On the note of civility, you should probably try to heed your own message. You've clearly got a very high opinion of your own knowledge and a very fragile ego, and I suspect that's why you replied to my message, which merely disagreed with you and didn't resort to insults (like yours), with such hostility.

You should grow up a bit. And learn a bit more about audio engineering.

In fact, your own 3 statements are moronic. Here's why.

1) If there is no point in developing any sampling rate above your mystical magical cartoonish threshold of 44khz, then you should publish a peer reviewed paper and wait for your Nobel prize. Of course that's a very stupid thing to say.

2) The sound quality is not just based on those few things, but many more factors, hardware software firmware and real world permutation of factors when recording not to mention post production. Not just the silly few commandments you set in stone after you woke up today. Again silly.

3) To say any sound recorder, of any quality or era etc, is better than any digital recorder (a phone in this case and software) plus any microphone of even highest quality levels, is again an announcement that basically says the person has no basic common sense or intelligence. And that's what you said gringo.

Now you're the type of guy, and we love guys like you, that makes such silly Billy sweeping generalisations which are nonsense and entertains and no doubt will try to divert with a lot of waffle. But I will quote the above three basic logical points again. Finally I'd say if you address people out of the blue with a little bit more civility, your life will be a little less painful in future mi amigo. Have a good weekend. :wink:

Doesn't record phone calls automatically.

At least you can download and use for 2 hours as a trial. Google will refund with the 2 hours.

whats the point if most phones have **** mic's?

Purchased! Thanks elTuco!

Isn't own to the quality of the phone's microphone more than anything?

Ve have ways of recording your sounds!

Anyone recommend a good/similar iOS app?

Well, no. That's nonsense.

At 44.1KHz and above, sampling frequency ceases to be an issue. What determines your sound quality is the mic, the quality of the preamp, and the quality of the ADC. To assume that a phone would be better at recording audio than a purpose-built audio recorder just because it has this app (which I doubt uses anything more than just the stock Android audio libraries) is very naive.

Can you record calls on this without restriction on call length? I often take briefings from clients that need to be recorded.

If I remember correctly, there is a guy in reviews who says he uses it to dictate to Dragon Pro. (from Nuance) voice recog/dictation software with auto start/stop by recording on the phone then transferring the file to PC for Dragon, or something like that. So must be a way.

Purchased, this looks like it has the kitchen sink too.
I liked RecForge for the voice activated record with x seconds buffer beforehand and y seconds buffer afterwards and records direct to ogg or mp3.
I hope this app can do the same.
Thanjs for letting me know.

Have used RecForge Pro for quite a while but will check this out. Thanks.

If I recall correctly, Zoom H1 sampling rate is 44.1khz and most phones are also the same or 48khz as this guy points out, see below. So basically being a recording management program on a digital recorder (phone), if a better mike is connected on the phone than the H1 mikes (not hard or expensive), the results would be better. He says you can double the sampling rate if connecting a USB (OTG) sound card or box to the phone. But care must be taken to fine tune to avoid noise, in which case it matches the latest H5/H6 doubled rate of H1. But the H5/6 have much better mikes than H1. Future phones will double current sampling rates, and this app will be updated free for life for buyers.

Google auto translate of his German site. Click on "Audio Quality" in left menu:
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.pfitzingervoicedesign.com/field_recorder/index.html

Original German site:
http://pfitzingervoicedesign.com/

Also, IIRC the two free apps I linked are also Raw Wav(e) recorders which can be re-sampled to lower or other MP3 rates. Some recorder apps are MP3 based and compress recordings.

I have the zoom h1, would this app be anywhere near the recording quality installed on my HTC m8?

purchased - thanks - looking forward to how it may improve stock app on Galaxy....

I tested about ten free ones a while back, I only kept these 2 by Sony and Splend:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splendapps.voicerec

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.androidapp.audiorecorder

or how about recording what your better half is upto.

Anyone used this for nature sounds? Wind, rain, streams etc? If so, is it any good?

Thank you.

I think you mean 'certified' not 'certifiable'. The latter normally refers to mental health issues. OK, maybe you meant to say that.

PS Thanks for the deal btw, a great one.

Any basic freebie sound recorders available?

For pros in Film/video/Radio and music/ent industry as a contingency on you all the time. If you spent tons on Nagra, Tascam, Sennheiser wireless, Rode, Zoom and similar gear, you will be glad to put this on your phone for life with regular updates.

Can connect it to USB OTG to other sound boxes. Good as backup recording just in case your other location devices fail, or run out of battery again. Read reviews for more ideas:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.pfitzinger.rec#details-reviews



Also good for professionals needing to record sound: Secretary, law, writers, surveyors, dictation ...

You can add a lavy mike to it, search on amazon or ebay after you choose one, anything from a tenner to 3 digit prices.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lavalier+phone