Thought this seemed a really decent price for what it does, excellent reviews across the net too & the next best price I could find was £44.99. Seems to be plenty of stock too, C+C for free or £5 del.
Central control hub which enables you to control lighting and heating devices from anywhere in the world via an iOS or Android app with a web browser. Easy to set-up and simple to use with plug and play and QR code set-up. MiHome Gateway is compatible with the MiHome range of monitoring and control devices, including sockets and light switches which can be retrofitted. Each device can be easily paired with the system, and once paired the geofencing function enables you to control the power sources of appliances by location. The modularity of the system ensures new devices can be added as required which will already be compatible with the current system. Smart features include timers and programmes to suit your schedule, energy monitoring for greater energy efficiency and IFTTT to control your devices with an array of great triggers, including the weather, dusk until dawn, Facebook and ESPN.
Simple to Set Up & Use
Slim & Stylish Design
Stores Timers & Programmes if Connection Fails
On the IFTTT Platform
Works with iOS, Android & Web Browsers
2 Year Warranty
Seriously guys share some use cases for such system. I really cannot see something that can't be done with simple timer. I use an universal remote with timers to tune AC settings on given hours and that's all that I need.
AzeemB to balexandrov
3 Oct 161#31
I'll be using the plug in sockets to switch on and off monitoring devices that may need to be reset.
You can use them to switch lamps on and off in a room, for example I have some led strip lighting and lamps plugged in , in difficult to reach places, so I could use it to switch them on and off.
there are some compatible trv's which I believe can be used with the hub, good because you can set the temperaure for a particular room at different times, (like not heating living room at night, when you are in bed.
AzeemB
3 Oct 16#30
Screwfix via plumbfix (or electricfix) are offering;
central hub gateway for £20.83+vat (2023H)
13A adaptor 3 pack for £13.32+vat (8082H)
i think you will need to be trade to get those prices, but might be useful to someone who knows a plumber or electrician
dragon2611
6 Aug 16#29
It's semi DMZ'd there things like media players and TV's/Mobile phones on that Vlan namely because the control apps usually broadcast out to the same L2 segement.
But I'm tempted to isolate it futher
mogsog
5 Aug 16#28
DMZ for all your IoT devices.
dragon2611
5 Aug 16#27
If they get hacked they could be used as a stepping stone to breach other devices on the network esp if you consider your network trusted so don't password shares.etc
I've been running IDS recently and noticed the lightwave hub is TFTP to the internet, it also looks like the thing doesn't even validate the signature of the image it pulls back and will just blindly flash anything meaning it would be trivial to execute a man in the middle attack on and either brick it or trick it into flashing a firmware with a backdoor that can be later exploited.
There's a reason I don't let it on the same LAN as my computers.
mogsog
5 Aug 16#26
Pibpob is correct.
This is another reason for the more tech savvy to choose the Pi-mote GPIO board. The device is as secure as the mainline nix kernel and you have a fast choice of what OS you run it on. But your second point is defiantly my primary concern is not security, it is what happens if the company who hosts the software goes under.
Ask yourself if what you are buying into can still be used without external reliance.
For those interested in an open-source alternative look at openhab.
mogsog
5 Aug 16#25
Your suspicions are correct, I have seen scripts out there to use cheaper status brand plugs too. Anything that runs on 433mhz can be commanded as long as you know the send codes.
paulj48
5 Aug 16#24
If you put it in perspective the additional risk that the odd Wi-Fi enabled light bulb creates is pretty small. The pro's far out weight the con's for me.
pibpob
5 Aug 16#23
It's an additional risk, regardless of what router you have got. How much of a risk it is in proportion to that presented by your router depends on your router.
paulj48
5 Aug 16#22
You think that's not a problem? But that's the least of it - they could get full access to your local network.
But you think this is more of a risk than the hack ability of the wifi router anyway?
pibpob
5 Aug 16#21
You think that's not a problem? But that's the least of it - they could get full access to your local network. Which is exactly how most people on this thread are talking about using them.
paulj48
5 Aug 16#20
if I get hacked what's the worst that could happen, someone turns my lights on and off?
And these systems only need server access if you require remote access. The Hue system can work entirely without an internet connection or Lan connect at all, it creates it's own mesh network between its own bulbs.
Automatic lights for security whilst on holiday, I have my Hue system switch most of my house on (8 lamps) an hour before dusk and then switches them of (in groups) at randomised times between 11 and 12 midnight. Obviously dusk changes throughout the year but my system compensates automatically.
Yes it could be done sort of with manual timers but you'd have to keep changing the dusk time, and the off time would be the same every night, an obvious sign for burglars on the look out, think the Wet Bandits in Home Alone :stuck_out_tongue:
wd40
5 Aug 16#17
3KW load too, that's not bad at all!
louisputtick
5 Aug 16#16
out of stock for C&C and not in stores near me
Bendown
5 Aug 16#15
Considering one of these type of things, what are peoples recommendations?
jamgin
5 Aug 16#14
Handy for burglar, he can hack in and turn on the central heating an hour before robbing. Nowt worst for a tealeaf than a cold house.
Gollywood
5 Aug 16#11
Why would you want to control your heating if you were abroad? I must be thick - I don't see the need for this!
jackbremer to Gollywood
5 Aug 16#12
To turn it off if you forgot and on when en route?
I use this type of thing to turn outside lights on at sunset and off at sunrise minus an hour.
I'm holding off investing anymore until the Apple Homekit stuff has reached maturity and anything already released that is not Homekit certified won't work with it.
Avagood
5 Aug 16#10
Good to know I can remotely flush the toilet and turn on the tumble dryer for no good reason next time I'm away on special forces duty in Bagdad.
horsey
4 Aug 16#9
Mi Home is made by Xiaomi, so maybe Energenie is their European partner?
This Energenie stuff looks really **** in comparison.
Xiaomi used to sell their own router, so hopefully this thing is using the same technology.
Range is poor though.
Early install was a bitch though, it was all in Chinese, although later updates add a bit of Chinglish
mogsog
4 Aug 16#7
I have the poor mans hacker version of this which is the Energenie Pi-mote GPIO board for the raspberry pi, I paid £35 for the board and 4 plugs. I would be interested to see how polished this is in comparison to my bodged solution.
dragon2611 to mogsog
4 Aug 16#8
I wonder if the GPIO board can be used to control other stuff on 433mhz, if it's the same as some of the PI 433mhz radios it should be possible to get it to do a lot of the lightwaveRF stuff.
I'm tempted to try something like that in place of the lightwaveRF wi-fi link, problem is I also need the 867mhz receiver (I think it's 867mhz) for the energy monitor sensor.
paulj48
4 Aug 161#6
I'd be interested if I'd not recently invested in the Philips Hue range.
The disadvantage with the Energenie system though is the devices do not create a mesh network like the Hue does so your restricted to where you can put the hub and all devices.
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Central control hub which enables you to control lighting and heating devices from anywhere in the world via an iOS or Android app with a web browser. Easy to set-up and simple to use with plug and play and QR code set-up. MiHome Gateway is compatible with the MiHome range of monitoring and control devices, including sockets and light switches which can be retrofitted. Each device can be easily paired with the system, and once paired the geofencing function enables you to control the power sources of appliances by location. The modularity of the system ensures new devices can be added as required which will already be compatible with the current system. Smart features include timers and programmes to suit your schedule, energy monitoring for greater energy efficiency and IFTTT to control your devices with an array of great triggers, including the weather, dusk until dawn, Facebook and ESPN.
Simple to Set Up & Use
Slim & Stylish Design
Stores Timers & Programmes if Connection Fails
On the IFTTT Platform
Works with iOS, Android & Web Browsers
2 Year Warranty
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You can use them to switch lamps on and off in a room, for example I have some led strip lighting and lamps plugged in , in difficult to reach places, so I could use it to switch them on and off.
there are some compatible trv's which I believe can be used with the hub, good because you can set the temperaure for a particular room at different times, (like not heating living room at night, when you are in bed.
central hub gateway for £20.83+vat (2023H)
13A adaptor 3 pack for £13.32+vat (8082H)
i think you will need to be trade to get those prices, but might be useful to someone who knows a plumber or electrician
But I'm tempted to isolate it futher
I've been running IDS recently and noticed the lightwave hub is TFTP to the internet, it also looks like the thing doesn't even validate the signature of the image it pulls back and will just blindly flash anything meaning it would be trivial to execute a man in the middle attack on and either brick it or trick it into flashing a firmware with a backdoor that can be later exploited.
There's a reason I don't let it on the same LAN as my computers.
Pibpob is correct.
This is another reason for the more tech savvy to choose the Pi-mote GPIO board. The device is as secure as the mainline nix kernel and you have a fast choice of what OS you run it on. But your second point is defiantly my primary concern is not security, it is what happens if the company who hosts the software goes under.
Ask yourself if what you are buying into can still be used without external reliance.
For those interested in an open-source alternative look at openhab.
But you think this is more of a risk than the hack ability of the wifi router anyway?
Which is exactly how most people on this thread are talking about using them.
And these systems only need server access if you require remote access. The Hue system can work entirely without an internet connection or Lan connect at all, it creates it's own mesh network between its own bulbs.
Yes it could be done sort of with manual timers but you'd have to keep changing the dusk time, and the off time would be the same every night, an obvious sign for burglars on the look out, think the Wet Bandits in Home Alone :stuck_out_tongue:
I use this type of thing to turn outside lights on at sunset and off at sunrise minus an hour.
I'm holding off investing anymore until the Apple Homekit stuff has reached maturity and anything already released that is not Homekit certified won't work with it.
I've got the original Mi Home sensor kit, the quality is akin to Apple, amazing.
see here:
http://blog.alansoon.com/technology-gadget-software/highly-configurable-home-automation-with-new-xiaomi-smart-home-kit-it-gadget-review
This Energenie stuff looks really **** in comparison.
Xiaomi used to sell their own router, so hopefully this thing is using the same technology.
Range is poor though.
Early install was a bitch though, it was all in Chinese, although later updates add a bit of Chinglish
I'm tempted to try something like that in place of the lightwaveRF wi-fi link, problem is I also need the 867mhz receiver (I think it's 867mhz) for the energy monitor sensor.
The disadvantage with the Energenie system though is the devices do not create a mesh network like the Hue does so your restricted to where you can put the hub and all devices.
Anybody know?