This fragrance for men by the house of Davidoff that brings the challenge of adventure was released in February of 2008, except for the USA market, where it is planned to launched in the fall the same year.
The perfume is created to be woody and spicy and it was designed by perfumer Antoine Lie, Givaudan. He was inspired by untamed nature, its freshness and rich woody notes.
This fragrance starts with sweet and fresh notes of mandarin orange, bergamot, and sparkling lemon, followed by green tea and black pepper. Seeds of black sesame and berries of South American pimento dominate the heart of the fragrance, and the base is made of Peruvian cedar, vetiver and light musk. The fragrance comes in 50 ml and 100 ml bottles, as eau de toilette and 100 ml bottle after shave, with the whole cosmetic line (deodorants, shampoo...).
Most fragrances come with a batch code, which can be found on the box and on the bottle. These two codes should match.
The only case where a batch code might be missing on a genuine perfume, is if the bottle is a tester with no cap and a plain box.
Batch codes are a dead give away. Also take notice of any bottle defects, like wonky spray mechanisms, cheap looking plastic caps and uneven glass welding.
If it feels somehow too oily, it's fake
If the scent is flat, it's fake
If the bottle seems low quality, it's fake
If there are typos, it's fake
If there are air bubbles in bottle glass, it can be fake
Make sure that the batch code doesn't fade easily. Genuine perfumes are likely to emboss their code, not just printing it
Better to buy smaller volume frags. Fakers tend to make bigger volume for bigger profit.
Also check for over-gluing in the package. Check the thickness of cellophane (plastic wrapper)
Occasionally, vendors do get duped by people who swap out the original BOTTLE with a fake and then return it in the original box, which is then resold. If the box is still sealed, that would rule out that concern.
Packaging changes often over the years and it's possible that the order of the wording (can) change. We have seen this many times when people question the authenticity of their Chanels, etc.
No longevity/sillage whatsoever. Fakes are usually seriously watered down.
...take the perfume to a department store which carries it and have one of the SAs compare it to the tester they have. Usually they're very helpful and good at telling fakes.
The smell. Counterfeit 'perfumes' are often made improperly. Normally, when perfume is attached to alcohol, it is placed in cans for few days to settle. Fakes are often skipping this step, so the composition is messy, flat, unpleasant after time if you sprayed that on skin. Note that it smells similar to original. The contents in 'precious' bottle can fall apart in months. Also, alcohol they use has to be lowest quality. (skin irritation! can be a red flag, too - there can be questionable ingredients!).
Tubing should not be nearly that visible or curved. There should also not be that tiny square shaped spring at the very top of the tubing. <------- TUBING is the #1 indicator everyone should look at when they receive a new bottle! It will tell you almost every time whether or not its real. Counterfeits use cheap, thick tubes that don't properly fit the bottle, or they replace original bottle contents with these fake tubes.
As others have said - this is very nice. Bought for my brother last year and a few weeks later we met up. Asked him what scent it was and he said 'the one you bought me'. Therefore got myself a bottle and perfect for theatre or nights dining out.
bells0
15 Aug 162#12
Love the smell of this, got some recently. Problem is, it doesn't last. Projects for about an hour then nothing.
Might be my skin, but such a shame.
emin3mu to bells0
15 Aug 161#15
Something like that it's impossible, to last only for an hour, problem is probably the fragrance, might be a FAKE!!!
louiselouise
15 Aug 16#13
Thanks to the nice mod who updated the delivery charge :smiley: Got a sample of Horizon a while ago and that's lovely too (don't think I've tested Adventure). Yeeeears ago I used to wear Echo, don't even know if that exists any more - but same as this one, it didn't seem to last on my skin too long :smiley:
coventgamer
15 Aug 161#14
received a fake today if not its watered down
louiselouise
15 Aug 16#16
I THINK most of the complaints about fakes from Amazon are third party sellers - or are we talking about Amazon?
If it was a reformulation there would be people banging a drum about it on Fragrantica and Basenotes Forums, can't see any such chatter on there.
louiselouise
15 Aug 16#17
Google's price tracker isn't always accurate - Perfume Click is £1.95 cheapest P&P option, or free over £50. Amazon is slightly cheaper, even with P&P on top.
MitchellT
15 Aug 16#18
I wasn't trying to make your deal look bad, just trying to help the guy with what info I could find without spending too long.
It was more of a, "well this isn't a £50 Aftershave" thing as opposed to, "here are other alternatives to your deal".
louiselouise
15 Aug 161#19
I do that too if I find deals cheaper, sometimes the OP really goes on the attack if you put an alternative price. I know it's just the spirit of HUKD. Just saying that Google doesn't always add P&P, but it's still useful to know :smiley:
More concerned about allegations of fakes. The only scents I've bought recently from Amazon (Warehouse) were both cellophaned - luckily I have other varieties of Boss Bottled and Thierry Mugler Alien in here so was able to compare - the packaging, at least, as they're gifts.
NOT cellophaned doesn't necessarily mean it's not real but I'd be looking more closely for signs of use or a switcheroo, just in case. The obvious signs of fakes are a thick spray tube, loose/faulty sprayer, poor print quality/mis-spelling/lack of embossing on the packaging. I'll see if I can find any comparison articles about Fake Vs Real Davidoff Adventure bottles.
Most fragrances come with a batch code, which can be found on the box and on the bottle. These two codes should match.
The only case where a batch code might be missing on a genuine perfume, is if the bottle is a tester with no cap and a plain box.
Batch codes are a dead give away. Also take notice of any bottle defects, like wonky spray mechanisms, cheap looking plastic caps and uneven glass welding.
If it feels somehow too oily, it's fake
If the scent is flat, it's fake
If the bottle seems low quality, it's fake
If there are typos, it's fake
If there are air bubbles in bottle glass, it can be fake
Make sure that the batch code doesn't fade easily. Genuine perfumes are likely to emboss their code, not just printing it
Better to buy smaller volume frags. Fakers tend to make bigger volume for bigger profit.
Also check for over-gluing in the package. Check the thickness of cellophane (plastic wrapper)
Occasionally, vendors do get duped by people who swap out the original BOTTLE with a fake and then return it in the original box, which is then resold. If the box is still sealed, that would rule out that concern.
Packaging changes often over the years and it's possible that the order of the wording (can) change. We have seen this many times when people question the authenticity of their Chanels, etc.
No longevity/sillage whatsoever. Fakes are usually seriously watered down.
...take the perfume to a department store which carries it and have one of the SAs compare it to the tester they have. Usually they're very helpful and good at telling fakes.
The smell. Counterfeit 'perfumes' are often made improperly. Normally, when perfume is attached to alcohol, it is placed in cans for few days to settle. Fakes are often skipping this step, so the composition is messy, flat, unpleasant after time if you sprayed that on skin. Note that it smells similar to original. The contents in 'precious' bottle can fall apart in months. Also, alcohol they use has to be lowest quality. (skin irritation! can be a red flag, too - there can be questionable ingredients!).
Tubing should not be nearly that visible or curved. There should also not be that tiny square shaped spring at the very top of the tubing. <------- TUBING is the #1 indicator everyone should look at when they receive a new bottle! It will tell you almost every time whether or not its real. Counterfeits use cheap, thick tubes that don't properly fit the bottle, or they replace original bottle contents with these fake tubes.
louiselouise
15 Aug 16#21
From what I've read about Amazon Warehouse (usually high value items like mobile phones), I would be VERY wary about an uncellophaned perfume from Amazon. From experience, Amazon don't check their returns that thoroughly. It could be that some people are swapping out bottles and returning them, if the allegations of fakes are about Amazon themselves, and not third party sellers.
Of course it could be a supplier issue, but no idea about that with Amazon...you have their excellent customer service on your side, at least. That's all I can think of :smiley:
Stay safe, research beforehand and shop wisely :smile:
Meathotukdeals
15 Aug 16#22
tbh there was a thread on here for an Issey Miyake what not and there was lots of chatter about fakes bought direct from Amazon. Seems people give fakes out, those people order the same from Amazon, and then return the fake. Put me right off using Amazon particularly if I don't know what the fragrance/bottle/package etc is supposed to be like.
Looks to me there is a need for things like holograms or tamper proof RF tags to make sure legit is legit and not a fake.
Not being defensive but there isn't much information on that thread - the general opinion seems to be that people are switching bottles and returning them.
As for Amazon's returns process and how thorough their checking is - I've had a few disputes with them over the years (generally Warehouse items that are nothing like their description). Even got a returns letter in a recent Warehouse purchase - with the buyer's email address, house address, phone number, etc!
Amazon aren't unique in this happening. I saw a recent Fragrantica thread accusing Macy's of selling fake Chanel - it's rare, but the switcheroo scam happens in big name stores too. Who knows, maybe the sales assistant was new/inexperienced/naive.
If I'm wrong and Amazon are getting scents from dodgy suppliers, of course we need to know about it.
Edit: Just read the Issey Miyake L'eau D'Issey Intense 1-Star reviews. As usual, only one highlights which seller they got it from (frustrating, as buyers need to know this). The reviewer says theirs was from Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R27981SFB722W3/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B001FWXHHU (they mention "from Amazon" twice, so I'm assuming here - "from Amazon" could be just referring to the website!).
Wish Amazon would highlight which seller was used, in every single review.
Meathotukdeals
15 Aug 16#25
No worries but see #24, #31 and #33 for people saying they have had fakes direct from Amazon. Its only a short thread so its quite an eye opener IMO.
Meathotukdeals
15 Aug 16#26
oops maybe #44 too (not sure I don't have Prime and know little about it).
"I didn't read the whole thread but I ordered in a prime deal a while ago and mine was fake. They kept taking down my review".
louiselouise
15 Aug 16#27
Well, who knows. Hopefully people will check up on what they receive and post clear feedback on here, or on Amazon. Taking down reviews is strange - never had that happen to me, even when it's been negative!
I can confirm, having Prime myself, that some third party sellers offer it "fulfilled by Amazon" - so Prime is not necessarily a "from Amazon" purchase.
tafarrant
16 Aug 16#28
I currently wear Sauvage, Azzaro Wanted and Ralph Red would this fit in with those sort of scents?
Tequila
16 Aug 16#29
when it's £20 in Argos,then it's not worth taking the risk of being fake on amazon just to save £1.5 or £5.
I wouldn't risk it.so many claims of fake fragrances direct from amazon.so there could be a problem.
louiselouise to Tequila
16 Aug 16#30
I think what we're trying to determine is if it IS Amazon, as people aren't clear in their reviews. And if it is, what's the culprit? Is it their supplier, and will they admit culpability? Or are people swapping them and returning them?
I have two cellophaned perfumes from Amazon put aside as gifts (they do look legit though, as I can compare them), so I want to know myself.
Meathotukdeals to Tequila
18 Aug 16#35
I would expect if they are doing it with Amazon they are doing it with a whole lot of other retailers. Argos will accept returns if unopened after all. I have a hunch this is quite a common thing going on, especially as the product has a decently high price.
Tequila
16 Aug 16#31
In the past I always assumed people who complain about fakes bought them from 3rd party sellers not direct because amazon reviews are mixed whether direct or 3rd party.however there are people who got fakes that clearly mention they bought direct from amazon not from 3rd party sellers.
louiselouise
16 Aug 16#32
I understand, but people don't explain themselves well. Personally, I would spell it out in my review, on forums, and in my correspondence with Amazon.
That Issey Miyake Intense thread has allegations but people don't say clearly if it is a Marketplace Seller, if it was already opened, even if they have went online and into a store to check their bottle is real.
I would do all those things and Amazon would regret annoying me, as I'm a real pain in the rear. I threw the book at a fake seller on ebay a while back and sent a list of reasons, and comparison illustrations vs my photos, showing clearly why it was fake.
Seeing the Positive Feedback he got was frustrating, though. He even accused me of wanting a free bottle (!) when ebay had actually sent me a free returns label - I didn't even have the perfume - I posted it back!
expositouk
16 Aug 16#33
I know there are knock-offs, but the not so long lasting scent doesn't necessary mean a perfume's fake. What's not been mentioned thus far is that this is 'eau de toilette' instead of 'eau de parfum'. There is a radical difference between the two - the former is meant to last just as long as people have mentioned (a couple of hours at most) while the latter is the bees knees as it lasts for days on end if you buy the most expensive ones. Further information on types of fragrances can be found in this Telegraph article: Your text here
Tequila to expositouk
19 Aug 16#36
Not every fragrance comes in "eau de parfum" ,only a few.ofcource "eau de parfum" varient is more potent but that's not what people are talking about here.
they are talking about 2 identical "eau de toilets" bought from different places having very different longivity.
louiselouise
16 Aug 16#34
Eau De Parfums aren't as common for male scents, even rarer to get pure Parfums for men :stuck_out_tongue:
EDT vs EDP isn't necessarily the whole story either, as far as longevity and sillage. I have Chanel Cristalle Eau Verte EDT that lasts longer than many EDPs I have - even a supposed pure Parfum (albeit a celebrity scent)!.
Fragrantica and Basenotes' feedback will give you a good indication what to expect from an individual scent.
Tequila
19 Aug 16#37
then everyone should refuse an unsealed fragrance.
Meathotukdeals
20 Aug 16#38
See Louise's #20. The thickness of the cellophane wrapper can be a clue - hence the fakes can come wrapped.
louiselouise
22 Aug 16#39
Price is now £17.95, so I'll hit Expire. Hope your purchases were all okay!
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The perfume is created to be woody and spicy and it was designed by perfumer Antoine Lie, Givaudan. He was inspired by untamed nature, its freshness and rich woody notes.
This fragrance starts with sweet and fresh notes of mandarin orange, bergamot, and sparkling lemon, followed by green tea and black pepper. Seeds of black sesame and berries of South American pimento dominate the heart of the fragrance, and the base is made of Peruvian cedar, vetiver and light musk. The fragrance comes in 50 ml and 100 ml bottles, as eau de toilette and 100 ml bottle after shave, with the whole cosmetic line (deodorants, shampoo...).
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You can check batch codes here: http://checkcosmetic.net/
and http://www.checkfresh.com/terms-of-use.html
Most fragrances come with a batch code, which can be found on the box and on the bottle. These two codes should match.
The only case where a batch code might be missing on a genuine perfume, is if the bottle is a tester with no cap and a plain box.
Batch codes are a dead give away. Also take notice of any bottle defects, like wonky spray mechanisms, cheap looking plastic caps and uneven glass welding.
If it feels somehow too oily, it's fake
If the scent is flat, it's fake
If the bottle seems low quality, it's fake
If there are typos, it's fake
If there are air bubbles in bottle glass, it can be fake
Make sure that the batch code doesn't fade easily. Genuine perfumes are likely to emboss their code, not just printing it
Better to buy smaller volume frags. Fakers tend to make bigger volume for bigger profit.
Also check for over-gluing in the package. Check the thickness of cellophane (plastic wrapper)
Occasionally, vendors do get duped by people who swap out the original BOTTLE with a fake and then return it in the original box, which is then resold. If the box is still sealed, that would rule out that concern.
Packaging changes often over the years and it's possible that the order of the wording (can) change. We have seen this many times when people question the authenticity of their Chanels, etc.
http://www.fragrantica.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=80163
No longevity/sillage whatsoever. Fakes are usually seriously watered down.
...take the perfume to a department store which carries it and have one of the SAs compare it to the tester they have. Usually they're very helpful and good at telling fakes.
http://www.fragrantica.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=41127
The smell. Counterfeit 'perfumes' are often made improperly. Normally, when perfume is attached to alcohol, it is placed in cans for few days to settle. Fakes are often skipping this step, so the composition is messy, flat, unpleasant after time if you sprayed that on skin. Note that it smells similar to original. The contents in 'precious' bottle can fall apart in months. Also, alcohol they use has to be lowest quality. (skin irritation! can be a red flag, too - there can be questionable ingredients!).
Check the spray tube, generally authentic bottles have spray tubes that are thin, straight, almost invisible. http://www.fragrantica.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=121058
Tubing should not be nearly that visible or curved. There should also not be that tiny square shaped spring at the very top of the tubing. <------- TUBING is the #1 indicator everyone should look at when they receive a new bottle! It will tell you almost every time whether or not its real. Counterfeits use cheap, thick tubes that don't properly fit the bottle, or they replace original bottle contents with these fake tubes.
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Gets compliments... An autumn winter scent I'd say
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Might be my skin, but such a shame.
If it was a reformulation there would be people banging a drum about it on Fragrantica and Basenotes Forums, can't see any such chatter on there.
It was more of a, "well this isn't a £50 Aftershave" thing as opposed to, "here are other alternatives to your deal".
More concerned about allegations of fakes. The only scents I've bought recently from Amazon (Warehouse) were both cellophaned - luckily I have other varieties of Boss Bottled and Thierry Mugler Alien in here so was able to compare - the packaging, at least, as they're gifts.
NOT cellophaned doesn't necessarily mean it's not real but I'd be looking more closely for signs of use or a switcheroo, just in case. The obvious signs of fakes are a thick spray tube, loose/faulty sprayer, poor print quality/mis-spelling/lack of embossing on the packaging. I'll see if I can find any comparison articles about Fake Vs Real Davidoff Adventure bottles.
You can check batch codes here: http://checkcosmetic.net/
and http://www.checkfresh.com/terms-of-use.html
Most fragrances come with a batch code, which can be found on the box and on the bottle. These two codes should match.
The only case where a batch code might be missing on a genuine perfume, is if the bottle is a tester with no cap and a plain box.
Batch codes are a dead give away. Also take notice of any bottle defects, like wonky spray mechanisms, cheap looking plastic caps and uneven glass welding.
If it feels somehow too oily, it's fake
If the scent is flat, it's fake
If the bottle seems low quality, it's fake
If there are typos, it's fake
If there are air bubbles in bottle glass, it can be fake
Make sure that the batch code doesn't fade easily. Genuine perfumes are likely to emboss their code, not just printing it
Better to buy smaller volume frags. Fakers tend to make bigger volume for bigger profit.
Also check for over-gluing in the package. Check the thickness of cellophane (plastic wrapper)
Occasionally, vendors do get duped by people who swap out the original BOTTLE with a fake and then return it in the original box, which is then resold. If the box is still sealed, that would rule out that concern.
Packaging changes often over the years and it's possible that the order of the wording (can) change. We have seen this many times when people question the authenticity of their Chanels, etc.
http://www.fragrantica.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=80163
No longevity/sillage whatsoever. Fakes are usually seriously watered down.
...take the perfume to a department store which carries it and have one of the SAs compare it to the tester they have. Usually they're very helpful and good at telling fakes.
http://www.fragrantica.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=41127
The smell. Counterfeit 'perfumes' are often made improperly. Normally, when perfume is attached to alcohol, it is placed in cans for few days to settle. Fakes are often skipping this step, so the composition is messy, flat, unpleasant after time if you sprayed that on skin. Note that it smells similar to original. The contents in 'precious' bottle can fall apart in months. Also, alcohol they use has to be lowest quality. (skin irritation! can be a red flag, too - there can be questionable ingredients!).
Check the spray tube, generally authentic bottles have spray tubes that are thin, straight, almost invisible. http://www.fragrantica.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=121058
Tubing should not be nearly that visible or curved. There should also not be that tiny square shaped spring at the very top of the tubing. <------- TUBING is the #1 indicator everyone should look at when they receive a new bottle! It will tell you almost every time whether or not its real. Counterfeits use cheap, thick tubes that don't properly fit the bottle, or they replace original bottle contents with these fake tubes.
Of course it could be a supplier issue, but no idea about that with Amazon...you have their excellent customer service on your side, at least. That's all I can think of :smiley:
Stay safe, research beforehand and shop wisely :smile:
Looks to me there is a need for things like holograms or tamper proof RF tags to make sure legit is legit and not a fake.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/issey-miyake-l-eau-d-issey-intense-eau-de-toilette-125-ml-for-20-25-amazon-2489755
And check the one star reviews! :disappointed:
As for Amazon's returns process and how thorough their checking is - I've had a few disputes with them over the years (generally Warehouse items that are nothing like their description). Even got a returns letter in a recent Warehouse purchase - with the buyer's email address, house address, phone number, etc!
Amazon aren't unique in this happening. I saw a recent Fragrantica thread accusing Macy's of selling fake Chanel - it's rare, but the switcheroo scam happens in big name stores too. Who knows, maybe the sales assistant was new/inexperienced/naive.
If I'm wrong and Amazon are getting scents from dodgy suppliers, of course we need to know about it.
Edit: Just read the Issey Miyake L'eau D'Issey Intense 1-Star reviews. As usual, only one highlights which seller they got it from (frustrating, as buyers need to know this). The reviewer says theirs was from Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R27981SFB722W3/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B001FWXHHU (they mention "from Amazon" twice, so I'm assuming here - "from Amazon" could be just referring to the website!).
Wish Amazon would highlight which seller was used, in every single review.
"I didn't read the whole thread but I ordered in a prime deal a while ago and mine was fake. They kept taking down my review".
I can confirm, having Prime myself, that some third party sellers offer it "fulfilled by Amazon" - so Prime is not necessarily a "from Amazon" purchase.
I wouldn't risk it.so many claims of fake fragrances direct from amazon.so there could be a problem.
I have two cellophaned perfumes from Amazon put aside as gifts (they do look legit though, as I can compare them), so I want to know myself.
That Issey Miyake Intense thread has allegations but people don't say clearly if it is a Marketplace Seller, if it was already opened, even if they have went online and into a store to check their bottle is real.
I would do all those things and Amazon would regret annoying me, as I'm a real pain in the rear. I threw the book at a fake seller on ebay a while back and sent a list of reasons, and comparison illustrations vs my photos, showing clearly why it was fake.
Seeing the Positive Feedback he got was frustrating, though. He even accused me of wanting a free bottle (!) when ebay had actually sent me a free returns label - I didn't even have the perfume - I posted it back!
they are talking about 2 identical "eau de toilets" bought from different places having very different longivity.
EDT vs EDP isn't necessarily the whole story either, as far as longevity and sillage. I have Chanel Cristalle Eau Verte EDT that lasts longer than many EDPs I have - even a supposed pure Parfum (albeit a celebrity scent)!.
Fragrantica and Basenotes' feedback will give you a good indication what to expect from an individual scent.