Yeah, you know, when it gets reduced down to 'pride damage control' is when I'm out. Also look at research for the harmful effects of pride :stuck_out_tongue:

Scientifically proven to be more addictive than cocaine? Nope, sorry. There are a few studies that you are probably referring to but to say sugar, something which is found in many foods, anything with a carbohydrate content basically, and used preferentially by our brains and bodies as energy, is more addictive than a very harmful substance is wrong. Why do coke addicts steal from their families to fund their next hit when they can just munch on a mars bar? :wink:

The few studies you will have read about will have involved a small number of rats and it's important to consider that a rat is not a person, they have different metabolisms, brains etc, and lab conditions are not realistic comparisons to life as well as the small numbers of rats involved. Another study showed that sugar "lights up" the pleasure centre of the brain, just like cocaine, heroin etc, however so do most things we find pleasurable such as learning a language, eating chocolate, high fat foods, sex etc and they all activate a dopaminergic pathway but it's silly to say they all cause the same psychological and physiological effects. Is learning a language as bad as heroin? I wish I had that excuse in school. :laughing:

We cannot conclude from these few studies that sugar is more addictive than a dangerous drug. There's not a lot of evidence that you can even be addicted to any nutrient or food but it seems you can be addicted to eating in general. http://www.neurofast.eu/digitalAssets/1455/1455240_consensus.pdf

Refined sugar or natural sugar in fruit, there is no difference as sugar is sugar. Too much isn't a good thing of course, as with fat or salt, but your body treats all sugar the same way regardless of the source.

Sugar draws nutrients from your body to digest it? Perhaps but the problem with that argument is that everything in your diet will draw nutrients from your body to digest each type. However when we digest our food, we absorb the nutrition from the food, replenishing what we used and leaving us with spare amounts. This cycle continues otherwise we would all show signs of either nutrient deficiency or toxicity which is why we need a balanced and varied diet. I'm sure if I ate a pure sugar diet, I would run out of certain micronutrients but I'd have far more pressing issues than that!

As for insulin, I found this series of articles quite good.

Sorry for the long post!

Absolutely vile.

Using Stevia - good idea in theory but they got it all wrong in practice

Phosphoric acid will melt your bones. Someone already put a broken teeth in coke and in one week it was gone.

The fiber and other nutrients in fruit make all the difference. Drinking a coke gives zero benefit to a human unless they need to a sudden burst of energy (and a crash soon after) this is why they are referred to as empty calories. I don't eat much fruit and I certainly don't drink fruit juice either because I realise it's still sugar.

I bought Coke Zero at the Nelson store last Saturday at this price.

BP Petrol stations are offering all varieties (in date) for £1 as well (even service stations).

Excess Sugar is poison in large quantity. No difference in refined sugar or fruit sugar. Only difference is fibre and vitamins /minerals contained in fruit. Stevia is considered safe. Coke is bad for those with joint pain due to Phosphoric acid. ​

Thanks. But for your information sugar is scientifically proven to be more addictive than cocaine. Please don't believe me (I'm just a random wally on a website) and do your own research even if it's only 30 minutes. It also draws nutrients from your body in order digest it, not to mention the insulin spikes which cause you to gain weight... quickly.

This is refined sugar we are talking about and not a healthy intake which might come from things like fruit. Dopamine is also produced and used in the body, but no one then says therefore heroin is OK for you.

Also available in the Brighouse store. And they had 330ml cans of coke zero cherry @5 for £1 too. Toffee Crisps and Vanilla Kit Kats 6 for £1.

Which is the one made with Stevia? It seems like the only viable version for the odd rum and coke... sugar, caffeine and aspartame are all unbelievably nasty for your brain chemistry.

Good deal! There are times when this and all the sugar comes in handy for some of us

He was sarcastic you melon

​Nobody really cares do they,it's a site for saving money.

30g 7.5 teaspoons of sugar per bottle. That's your days sugar in one go.

​Last week or two.

This drink is disgusting ! Use it for cleaning !

Full of sugar

Yes,also in Ashton