I would love to be able to justify one of these. Sadly you should be prepared for the army of people who don't understand why a laptop can cost more than £300 and only come here for the fish finger deals.

Oh and those that will scoff at an i7 not being a quad core who don't understand how the intel nomenclature works.

So all I ask of people before they hit that cold button is to stop and think is that alternative you think is a better deal a touchscreen, premium built ultrabook, with a QHD+ display and a 512gb PCIe based solid state storage or is it actually inferior in some respect which is why it's cheaper?

LOL. That's a 2.7kg 15.6" brick. The XPS13 is a 1.2kg ultraportable with a 13.3" screen in a 11.6" form factor.

The spanner count is high on here today! :laughing:

Laptop CPUs do not get any higher than this for the size and practicality. If your looking for a top spec notebook then your going to live to cope with lugging a 4kg machine around with a heavier battery life, optical drive (who uses these) and a dedicated GPU.

I dont think you can get higher spec laptop for the size of these ultrabook.
Your paying high end prices more for the screen as its almost a 4k res for a 13.3" screen.

Dual core processor (with only 4MB Cache) + 4 cell battery + no dedicated graphic card + no optical drive = top of the range??
doesn't add up.. sorry but voted cold

seems quite good price for the specs. but the link doesn't work :disappointed:

are these used/refurbished?...

Some items on Dell outlet are used/refurbished. This one specifically says New Unused Product.

Working on the link....

The codes on the Dell Outlet are normally generated on an ad-hoc basis and are 1 time use only. Unless this is something different, then it may not apply to all?

love these laptops. have the xps 15 and wouldn't mind the smaller one for more general use.. tempted

Dual core processor (with only 4MB Cache) + 4 cell battery + no dedicated graphic card + no optical drive = top of the range??
doesn't add up.. sorry but voted cold

I don't see how this is a deal. £800 for Inspiron 15 7559, 1080p, i7-6700HQ, 8gb Ram, nVidia 960m at Curry's .... actually you can get 10% cash back as well so would make it £720

I would love to be able to justify one of these. Sadly you should be prepared for the army of people who don't understand why a laptop can cost more than £300 and only come here for the fish finger deals.

Oh and those that will scoff at an i7 not being a quad core who don't understand how the intel nomenclature works.

So all I ask of people before they hit that cold button is to stop and think is that alternative you think is a better deal a touchscreen, premium built ultrabook, with a QHD+ display and a 512gb PCIe based solid state storage or is it actually inferior in some respect which is why it's cheaper?

As stunning as the touch version is I went Matte full HD instead.

Battery life is super, gets more run-time then the glossy touch screen.

First Windows laptop I've not had battery life anxiety, I can happily take it out without the charger.

yeah. you have a good point :smiley:

Not sure about these. My daughters partner bought one last week, it's not been running for more than 30 minutes before falling over. They sent a usb stick out with the upgrade to Windows 10, now it falls over every 3 minutes! We've even seen the BSOD, which I thought wasn't possible with W10... Dell are sending an engineer out tomorrow to change the motherboard!!!!

I have one of these, microsoft signature series it came without any Dell bloatware, but the first month I had to install a couple of the "Dell Utilities" to keep the drivers up todate, after the bluetooth stopped working. But still a good machine with 8 hours of usable battery life, stunning display, and can handle cad software without a problem.
Needs an adapter to use an ethernet cable.

Note that this is not the top of the line specification.

Top spec has i7-6560u which has IRIS-540 graphics instead of Intel HD 520 - a far more tempting ownership proposition.

Be careful when ordering from the Outlet that you check the specs very careful before hitting the buy button - it is easy to order without realising that a part of spec is not as you think it is (particularly if selecting one of 8 on screen at the time) - my Inspiron 15 7559 didn't have a backlit keyboard - gutted, but my fault as I didn't spot it was missing from the spec list.

Have ordered 5 different machines from the outlet - only had a problem with one which was eventually resolved after several visits from an engineer and sending the laptop away for repair.

So only balding middle aged men buy sleek ultrabooks?

So why do you assume that only balding middle aged men buy lightweight sports cars?

As I said, life is strange, thanks for confirming that once more. :smiley:

A lifetime of observation mostly.

But I am in part being facetious.

Quite a lot of the stock in the DELL outlet store is there because DELL make to order so if someone orders and cancels after the machine is built but before it's sent out then it ends up here.

Since DELL did a 10% across the board price hike I think they have become a touch overpriced for what they offer. I'm looking at the lenovo 710s at the moment which I (personally) think offers a better deal.

For that price wheres the GPU?

can we stock the weight check :stuck_out_tongue: discussion

Knorr way.

Any similar deals available for a Dell XPS 15?

Thanks.

Not sure what GPU this one uses but the recent versions of the XPS13 use the Iris 540 and that offers performance somewhere between the Geforce 920 and 940. Obviously not a gaming machine but you'll be able to play slightly older titles eg. Skyrim on that sort of setup without any problem.

Obviously a bit different. not 13inch. and it's refurbished. But you do get 1 years Dell Warranty and a much better CPU, but then with all the same specs with a mid range GPU right here

Not bad. Dell actually have new Dell XPS 15's on their outlet as well with a Geforce 960m which also look a tempting proposition, though they sacrifice the full solid state storage for a 32gb mSata (enough for Windows to be isntalled on) and a 1tb mechanical drive.

I personally have a desktop gaming rig though so I wouldn't want a big laptop even though by 15" standards the XPS is relatively compact it's still bigger than my needs.

Too expensive the cpu in that is way too slow, even though it's an i7, and i7-3720qm in a Dell e6430 is twice as fast and it's about £300 one eBay

This is the only Windows laptop I would consider using, and I've tried all of the top end ones (via work)

Looks amazing but not too sure about the U series cpu.

Wish they made a cheaper version of these around the £400 mark with way lesser specs, love the design and the mini bezel screen.

Keep an eye out and you'll probably get an XPS15 with the configuration you want.
It took me a week or so of waiting for one to come up with the bigger battery and 512gb msata 'full 4k' screen in 'scratch and dent' (which is the cheapest).

Mine hasn't been perfect - still has a USB issue and very occasionaly BSOD, mostly from the wifi card. But been using it for over a year and overall I'm pleased with it.

I won't buy Dell outlet now after my problems with a machine I ordered for my son at Xmas. It arrived and I wrapped it. Xmas day comes and ...it's in Spanish. It took nearly three months to get a refund. No the listing didn't say it wasn't English except if you knew Dell product codes. lol... never again.

This is a good thread to keep an eye on: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/dell-xps-13-2015-skylake-infinity-display-owners-thread.782674/page-204

Shame it is dual to be fair.

Would love one of these beauts.

The XPS 15 comes with a quad core. It wouldn't make sense for this to be a quad core as the typical use case for needing a quad core cpu would be creative work like image and video editing so those users would want the larger screen. For people that would want the 13" model the improved battery life of this low power cpu for majority of use it will be put to is of far more value than the occasional benefit of a quad core processor at the expense of battery life. And the actual monetary expense of having one a quad cpu.

how on earth has this gotten hot? its pretty basic? I mean I ended up going for this (not the one I posted as I have no clue how that got hot!) as I got it on offer, with discount codes for £800:

https://www.cclonline.com/product/211386/9S7-179553-626/Laptops/MSI-GP72-6QF-Leopard-Pro-17-3-1080p-Gaming-Laptop-Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-8GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-128GB-SSD-Nvidia-GTX960M-2GB-Windows-10/NOT02986/

Ok, so its gone back up to £890 and It has 8GB of DDR4 but it got this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01842Y77C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

To get the Laptop to 16GB total. Double checked with MSI and you CAN upgrade the RAM and HDD without voiding the warranty.

Maybe I missed something :/

Style?

I am sure they have 4k for 13 inches screen, right?

I seriously considered getting this but after looking at the user reviews on amazon.com I decided against it.
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-XPS9350-8008SLV-3200x1800-Processor-Microsoft/dp/B01D6N81BC/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1471529811&sr=1-8&keywords=dell+xps+13#customerReviews
26% of purchasers gave it one star!!
It is one of the lowest rated ultrabooks for user reviews on Amazon. In the end I decided to go for a Mac Air.

I have the i5 Touch Screen version and it is brilliant. Super light, great battery life, never crashes and always works perfectly. Best investment for a long time.

You're missing comparing a premium built ultrabook with a QHD+ infinty edge display and 512gb of solid state storage that only weighs 1.3kg against a big plastic gaming laptop with a 1080p display and 128gb of solid state storage that weighs twice as much.

Yes your device has a quad core cpu and a dedicated GPU and it's a decent prospect as a gaming laptop. But it's big, plastic and heavy. It's not the same category of device at all and yes it suits your needs and presents good value for your use but it's not the device this unit is competing with. I may as well present a desktop PC with better specs than your laptop that is still cheaper and tell you your device is poor value because I get get better components for less money, it's just that my device isn't portable.

I wish people would think before shooting down deals. It's no wonder 'What is the EU?' trended after the Brexit vote.

That weights 2.6KG over twice the weight of the Dell.

The Dell is thin and has decent battery life.

You can chuck it in a bag without the charger and not worry about it.


They are completely different products, thin and light costs more.

Beware the 1080p version has dynamic contrast built into the display firmware that cannot be disabled.

It makes colour accuracy work and screen calibration impossible. It also makes things look washed out or too dark in general use.

We've got the last gen version of this, really nice machine. Prefer my spectre x360 though personally and with the screen size I prefer the full HD version to the 4k, get a couple of hours extra battery life so not a disaster if I leave my charger at home before leaving for work.

​I watch blurays on my laptop.....don't presume to know everybody's individual requirements......

The Air is starting to show its age (the big screen bezel, resolution, outdated processors etc.),
if you don't urgently need a laptop probably better holding off purchasing a new Macbook until they refresh the range
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac
because then you get better spec and current models will drop in price

:laughing:

I don't see the need for the higher rez screen on the 13 - the 1080p screen on the xps 13 is literally the best ive ever seen - it's so good. Also, you're getting very little increased performance by going with an i7, as it's really just a meg in cache and a small mhz bump...no extra cores. So all in all, I'd say better to go for their lower specced range but with more ram and storage.

But for specs and form factor, this is undoubtedly a good deal.

I used to be one of those who thought spec was everything... I then bought a macbook pro and I have not looked back.

If you're buying a laptop/ultrabook and you're going to permanently hook up a monitor, mouse and keyboard to it then go for the best spec.

If you value your time and don't use programs that use 100% CPU for long periods of time you should get something premium such as an XPS/Macbook which would be much better for productivity.

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a 17.3" 2.6kg isn't portable? 2.6kg isn't heavy and for me, spending that much extra money for just over 1kg less weight and less spec isn't a deal at all and this Dell doesn't look better compared to the MSI. This looks like the "apple" effect a lot of manufacturers go for, that's not for me, its boring.

These 2 are laptop tops but albeit, i should have compare it to a 13" laptop not a 17" so i understand where you are coming from about compare laptop's to desktop (:/)

Now it does have better screen but on a 13" laptop, are you really getting the benefit out of it?

Each to their own and everyone will weigh up their own pro's and con's depending on the situation you need a laptop for.

Why on earth would you even add a Brexit bit at the end dude? Seriously? talk about zero comparison to laptops!

btw, I voted to stay in :smiley:

Yep, you've definitely missed something.

For me it's not portable enough.

It won't fit in my rucksack and even if it did it's heavy. It won't fit on my desk very well at uni, it won't fit on the fold down tray on a plane, it won't get through the day on battery power. So no it's not as portable as this ultrabook and thus completely unsuitable for many peoples needs

And I didn't even include that your suggestion isn't a touchscreen.

Your suggestion is as comparable to this deal as a full desktop system is to yours. I mean a desktop is still portable in that I can put it in my car and take it somewhere else. Just not as practically as your laptop. But your laptop isn't as practical as this so it's a sliding scale. A desktop has no battery so can't be used in a mobile fashion at all. Your battery won't last all day so for someone who needs it to is equally as useless. Again a sliding scale.

It's not the same as the Apple effect. This does things yours suggestion can't, and your suggestion does things this can't. An Apple device of this price does less than this does, it just does some things in a nicer way that some people like. I personally can't stand using OSX but I get why people do like it so they see it's value. But practically speaking you can't do something with a mac that this can't do. This can do lot's of things your laptop can't do.

All the people at the top of the page telling me (as condescendingly as possible) why I should vote "hot" have driven me the other way.

Soz. Cold.

Way to prove them wrong with solid rationale though.

And I don't think you're sorry at all! :smiley:

Did post these costs 2 days ago... stock levels are fluid, so as someone buys this, its gone.

You are buying a computer not a CPU in the same way that when you buy a car you aren't buying just based on the engine.
Not everyone wants a hot and noisy fuel guzzling turbo charged 5L in a bulky 4x4 chassis.

Nice machine. Guy I work with has one. I really like the no bezel display. Resolution is probably overkill on 13.3". But a very portable and elegant machine overall with good battery life and specs that are just about good enough to get the work done.
It's a tool. This is NOT a gaming machine and NOT a portable workstation. But if you travel a lot and generally remote into a VM or workstation this is more than sufficient in terms of compute power.
Wish I could justify (and afford) an upgrade to this.

There are never that many units on outlet - and what there are make up a tiny percentage of the machines dell sell each day.

Also, dell will use outlet to dispose of remaining stock of a particular build of machine, that has perhaps been superceded or is about to be.

I've been watching outlet this past month or so and this is a fairly "typical" deal. There have been some 1TB SSD machines go through with the higher spec processor with IRIS graphics for not much more, and that is probably where my money will be at some point.

Just like the "special offer" of 10% off until end of July...

Why not go look?

http://www.dell.co.uk/outlet

The stock updates 2-3 times a day.

Lugging a 2.6Kg oversized laptop about holds no appeal at all for me. I travel each week as i have my own business and am generally walking from the hotel to the clients office weekdays, so a 2.6KG weight in my rucksack isnt going to hack it.

This on the other hand - small, light, waifer thing, nimble, well spec'd, excellent battery life - whats not to like?

I've a HP Envy at the minute, and an XPS 13, i7, IRIS, 16GB with a 1TB SSD is definitely on my radar as my next lappy.

Theres a 1TB SSD variant on there for just £56 more at the minute

I have a Macbook :wink:

But this is an ultrabook. All ultrabook have to meet certain criteria (size, weight, performance and battery life). I love this laptop as it's same size as an 11.6 inch macbook air as it has an ultra slim bezel. Plus the huge size ssd and ultra high screen resolution. I've had many different laptops and ultrabook over time. Currently settled for the Sony vaio pro 11 for its weight, power and portability. But ultimately I'd want to get one of these XPS. To me it would be perfect for work and entertainment on the go. And with 512gb ssd I can copy my itunes library over too.
the cpu is the same as the famous lenovo x1 carbon gen 3 I had and I was very happy with its speed.
The Dell is even smaller than the new hp spectre 360 :smiley:

This is a great buy, and I might just get it, but I'm still thinking about the 15" variant.
How often does Dell add products to the Outlet store?
At the moment the 15" is only available with a 1TB HDD + 32GB SSD.
I want 256-512GB PCIE SSD option.

Thanks.

Well spotted. Shame I'm not in the market for an ultrabook at the moment.

Here's the xps 13 next to the macbook air 11

Hi
I would have done but I live in Vietnam and only come back to the UK twice a year at the end of Aug and Feb. My computer man has got me a 2015 Broadwell one for £485.

Very nice, the latest xps laptops are beautiful!

​Oh. sorry to hear that.

Ah bless

Yes, lots

Anyone have any idea when both the XPS 13 & 15 will be re-vamped with Kaby Lake (Intel 7th generation) cpu's?

At the IDF, they said from "autumn" in the US, so I guess it will be a few months later in the UK.

Received mine today and its already wrapped up for return. As said many many times before even here I could not get mine to run longer than 10 mins without bsod. All drivers fully updated from dell support. Unusable. Its sad as the machine looks amazing and the so is the spec but when its brand new and duff why should you spend valuable time trying to diagnose what driver is an issue. It wasn't even the broadcom wifi adapter that is documented as the most common fault as mine had an intel. Gutted :-(

"top of the range" yet its an i7 u processor

"Top of the range" was a bit of a stretch given there are higher end U series processors available, but if your gripe is with the fact that it's a 15W U series rather than some other power hungry cpu keep in mind this device is designed with all day battery life in mind, not something that can be provided by more powerful processors.

It's among the top of the range for it's designed use case. People get too caught up on spec sheet numbers like benchmark figures are all that matters and forget how the device will actually be used.

I have one of these, for reference, I bought it to replace the 12" macbook, same sort of size, i7 rather than m3.

Yes, i7 is the top for the U range as well as Core i range. Simple.

You're missing that this is an ultraportable laptop to give you long life and productivity on the go - hardly comparable with a 17 inch gaming laptop!

You're not comparing like for like. 13.3" against 17.3", you can't be serious?

​How odd I've sent two back for this exact reason! First one within 24 hours and second within 48.

I really wish people knew what they were talking about before coming up with nonsense and down voting. Where have they seen 13" all metal i7 qhd laptops for less and with dedicated graphics chips. Because sign me up for ten I'd they can provide anything approaching that. This isn't a YouTube comment thread...

If anyone receives a product from the outlet which seems to be more damaged than you were expecting, call them up and ask for money back. I managed to get an additional £90 off after I found one measly scratch on my xps9350 that I wasn't really too bothered about but it was the fact that the person on the phone told me specifically that it would have no marks or scratches on it. Also, these laptops are incredibly good looking and well built. The keyboard has great feedback and the screen (non-touch) is excellent.

9350 is old model

​also heard display scaling issues still around. that's one of my main reasons for leaning towards full HD.

also QHD on 13" seems a bit overkill if you're not doing high resolution editing etc

​they have been already. well 13 is out, 15 has been "leaked"