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TP-LINK TL-PA411KIT AV500 Powerline Adapter Kit - Twin Pack @ Currys & PC World - £19.99
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hbwold
5 Jul 16
Now down to £19.99 with free delivery, or click and collect.
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Pankratz
5 Jul 16 8 #12
Honestly, if you don't know how something works, stay quiet and don't confuse others or read the description before you share your knowledge. Some might think you're an expert or something :disappointed:
It uses wired connection, no wifi connectivity over this particular kit is possible. These are a brilliant idea if for example your router is away from your pc and you want a stable, wired connection.
tavalin
5 Jul 16 8 #7
These DO NOT give you wifi.
judgepd
5 Jul 16 3 #3
I've got 4 of these running in my house and never had a problem with them. Good price.
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davedelaney1978
5 Jul 16 1 #1
looks good, ordered cheers OP
CharlesCalthrop
5 Jul 16 1 #2
I'd wait for the first comment deriding the lack of gigabit ports but as I'm using one of these myself (and they are extremely reliable) I may have to wait a long while... :smiley:
judgepd
5 Jul 16 3 #3
I've got 4 of these running in my house and never had a problem with them. Good price.
dave_2245
5 Jul 16 #4
Can someone explain to me the advantage of using these?
Is this instead of connecting over wireless, you can plug 1 upstairs, 1 downstairs, and connect via ethernet?
Does interference play much of a part?
EN1GMA to dave_2245
5 Jul 16 #5
this is wireless without the need for wires. plug one into your router, the other where you want in your house and that unit will give you wifi. so get a couple of these and you should have wifi in all of your house.
Shock to dave_2245
5 Jul 16 1 #9
If you can't run a CAT cable between your PC/Router then these are preferred over WiFi option.
These use the powerline to transfer connection over high frequency on the electric cables.

These TP-Link devices are based on Qualcomm Atheros AR1500/AR7400 chipset.

Some users may experience regular or infrequent drop outs and reconnections on the Qualcomm based products.

My personal recommendation is on devices based on Broadcom chipsets.
Such as the ZyXEL PLA5206KIT based on Broadcom's BCM60333 chipset
http://www.ebuyer.com/662823-zyxel-pla5206-1000mbps-powerline-gigabit-ethernet-adaptor-twin-pack-pla5206-gb0201f
EN1GMA to dave_2245
5 Jul 16 1 #19
sorry for the confusion dave.
EN1GMA
5 Jul 16 #6
ive got a devolo unit but getting additional units are more expensive so might by these as buying additional units is more cheaper.
tavalin
5 Jul 16 8 #7
These DO NOT give you wifi.
109place
5 Jul 16 #8
same price on Amazon
dave_2245
5 Jul 16 1 #10
Fair enough, i think i understand, however i'd point out that they don't give wifi, they give you an ethernet port to plug into.
Im more curious at how much their connection speed can deteriorate.
If i place it on the other side of the house, would they be similar speeds to a wifi connection?
nomnomnomnom
5 Jul 16 2 #11
This is not what they do at all!!

These allow you have another wired device somewhere else in the house (or use a switch there too for more ports)
Pankratz
5 Jul 16 8 #12
Honestly, if you don't know how something works, stay quiet and don't confuse others or read the description before you share your knowledge. Some might think you're an expert or something :disappointed:
It uses wired connection, no wifi connectivity over this particular kit is possible. These are a brilliant idea if for example your router is away from your pc and you want a stable, wired connection.
moneybag
5 Jul 16 #14
It's mostly down to the quality and length of the electrical wiring in your house. These transmit over the power lines, and automatically negotiate speeds based on the signal quality. If you have long runs of wiring, naturally the quality will degrade over distance as this is using your internal copper wire.
It's perfectly suitable in nearly all circumstances though, and unless you have very bad wiring or a very electrically noisy appliance on the same ring main it will do what it says on the tin.
As for comparing to WiFi, that depends on what revision of WiFi you are using. Wireless AC is much faster, but again the signal still attenuates through walls, floors and the atmosphere and is of course just as susceptible to electromagnetic interference from other appliances etc.
For £20 these are great though.
Jonj1611
5 Jul 16 #15
Basically the use the internal wiring in your house to create a network.

However you normally have two rings in most houses, upstairs/downstairs for instance so you can get some connection problems at times if you have a powerline plugged in upstairs and your router/other connection is downstairs for instance.

All networks will deteriorate over distance so depends on the size of your house/flat etc, however you will find you won't even come close to the quoted speed. But you will probably still find them quicker than wireless.

I personally have never had any luck with the tp-links in my house, router downstairs, my pc upstairs, I always had frequent disconnections. However I moved to Edimax and no problems. But I expect as always different situations and setups will render different results.
EN1GMA
5 Jul 16 #16
apologies guys, thought this was a wifi unit. so this is wired connection only?
EN1GMA
5 Jul 16 #17
ok bud, keep your knickers on. the premises is the same except I made the mistake in thinking it was wireless as opposed to wired.
EN1GMA
5 Jul 16 #18
so how do these wired ones connect to the modem/router? do you attach one of the units to the modem/router and the other you plug in elsewhere to get the wired connection?

ive got devolo one which has wired and wifi built in. so the smaller unit plugs into the virgin superhub and the larger unit is placed upstairs to give the wifi signal and Ethernet connection.
Jonj1611
5 Jul 16 #20
Wired ones just connect with a standard network cable to the router. And then you have another powerline elsewhere for whatever you want to connect to it.

My setup is :
1 x Powerline connected to the router.
1 x Powerline connected to my PC
1 x Powerline connected to my sons xbox one
1 x Powerline connected to my daughters PC
1 x Powerline connected downstairs via a hub to the Sky box/Blu Ray/TV and Steam Link.
TheMan_Aman
5 Jul 16 #21
Recently bought another pair. Had the previous one last me 2 years and then suddenly decided not to switch on anymore. But these are great and good price, paid the same a few months ago.
techno12
5 Jul 16 1 #22
I've had Powerlines for years, and got these a month ago.

In common with my previous units (a Belkin and a TRENDnet), they occasionally lose connection in my flat - random dropouts that will either fix themselves after a minute or two, or requires one or both units to be power cycled.

These dropped out two or 3 times a day. However, running a continuous ping in the background fixes the issue - no dropouts since I started the ping 3 weeks or so ago.

Good 'standard' price, just 40p more than I paid from Flubit last month...
dave_2245
5 Jul 16 1 #23
Don't worry buddy, i knew what you meant :smiley:
EN1GMA
5 Jul 16 #24
Ah, so not much different to my devolo set up. One plugs with the router, and then the other units you can place where you want for the connection.
retrend
5 Jul 16 #25
Much better for gaming and video streaming than wireless.
core
5 Jul 16 #26
Quite the opposite - this is very much wired.
@dave_2245 it's like tunneling Ethernet network over PLC (power-line communication). You put one into the power socket next to your router (or core switch), second on the first floor (next to the place where you need Ethernet socket (uplink to your router/switch), then, say, third on the attic and fourth in the garage. Please do not put any filters/surge protectors between them - it might ruin the performance.
(please note: it's strongly advised to do initial setup/synchronisation beforehand)

Now after you connect Ethernet cable from your router/core switch to the first device, you "extend" this connection to the other connected powerline adapters - thus letting yourself to connect, say, IP camera in the garage or additional wifi AP in the office in the attic. Unfortunately those adapters do not "extend" wifi on their own.

Kind of like this:
http://f.tqn.com/y/compnetworking/1/S/r/_/powerline-diagram-1.jpg
Shock
5 Jul 16 #27
I have explained this in post above (post 9).
It seems to be an issue with Qualcomm chips..
Mandroid578
5 Jul 16 #28
I have 5 of these. They are perfect. Unlike others these Work through extention leads too.
techno12
5 Jul 16 #29
Not just Qualcomm chips - my Belkins used a Gigle chipset and suffered similar dropouts.

Irrelevant anyway as pinging fixes it.... but when I next upgrade I'll look out for Broadcom ones (will only need to upgrade the powerlines if I end up getting a new broadband connection which is faster than my current 76Meg fibre)
ciaranmcw92
5 Jul 16 #30
Any reason not to buy this model?
Has an extra port for only a few £ extra, or would it be better to buy the OP's model and a switch for extra ports?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-PA4020KIT-Powerline-Streaming-Configuration/dp/B00QTG4J9C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1467731935&sr=8-3&keywords=tp+link
SuperFlyBlues
5 Jul 16 #31
I have these set up - x4 in total around the house. They are very reliable. No issues so far. The reason I went for TP-Link ones was that they use less electricity than the other models I compared them against.
Dave_dave69
5 Jul 16 #32
I have 5 powerline adapters - but I prefer paying the extra to get a pass-through version so I don't waste a socket. The pass- through allow you to plug the powerline direct to the socket - then run a an extension cable from that with extra sockets.

PS - I have noticed that pass-through versions have become more expensive recently.
mjunaid106
5 Jul 16 1 #33
I have these, pretty good and reliable
renojam
5 Jul 16 #34
Bought today, they work awesome. I was iffy at first but now I'm totally sold.
Simple plug one into your router and the other in another plug (into the wall) and boom. Buy now.
There are more expensive ones but unless your house is ridiculously massive then u have nothing to worry bout.
susanne30
5 Jul 16 #35
sorry if i sound thick but can these be used to save running a coax cable from my main arial on the roof that feeds tv in the living room to receive BBC ,ITV etc in my bedroom? also can they be used to get sky in bedroom ?
Thomablue
5 Jul 16 #36
You made the mistake of posting your mistake on a forum,thereby giving it some credibilty to the less well informed.

so knickers,pants,thongs etc etc are entitled to be taken off,with complete fools like you around.
Thomablue
5 Jul 16 #37
No
EN1GMA
5 Jul 16 #38
Sorry Ms perfect for making a genuine mistake. Oh sorry, you're a nobody on a shopping forum. I'm sure I won't lose any sleep over your comment. Jeez, guy makes a genuine mistake and people get high and mighty.
wilky67
5 Jul 16 #39
Yes, I have them, fantastic.
xeroc
6 Jul 16 #40
These work more or less identically to your 'wifi ones' - save for the fact that the WiFi ones, unsurprisingly, have an additional WiFi chip in one of the receivers. It then uses the 'wired' connection to supply network connectivity to the 'wireless' adapter inside the powerline.

These models do not provide wireless, but the wifi ones works in exactly the same way as if you had plugged a WAP in to the Ethernet port of one of the receivers on this model (but you get an extra Ethernet port :smiley: )
JohnnyUtah
6 Jul 16 #41
Are these any less safer to use if plugged into an extension lead?
ElectricalStorm
6 Jul 16 1 #42
Better add £3 and get them with double ports:
TP-LINK 500Mbps Powerline with 2x Ethernet Ports.
Pankratz
6 Jul 16 #43
They have to be plugged directly in to the mains socket as extension leads add some sort of an interference.

EDIT: You can get the ones with a pass through if there isn't a spare socket available and then plug your extension lead into that.
Gruffer
6 Jul 16 #44
​I seem to be experiencing the same brief random dropouts with mine (but they're great otherwise). Could you explain how to run a continuous ping?
switham007
7 Jul 16 1 #45
I had the same problem until I created a .bat file in notepad to ping the router constantly. To do this open notepad and type (without quotations) "ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -t" and replace the x's with your router IP address. Then click save as and click all files and call it "ping.bat".
Then to run this you will need to right click run as administrator.
To save the hassle of opening ping.bat each day I created a task scheduler to start ping.bat with administrator privileges whenever I turn my PC on. I hope this helps!
Gruffer
7 Jul 16 #46
​Cheers for that! Both useful and educational. I didn't realise making .bat files was so easy. Haven't touched one since hacking autoexec.bat on a 386 back in the day to get X-wing to work!
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