Tomb Raider dead to me for selling out to Microsoft to aid their flagging console.

Old game now, and a tired franchise.. should be £9.99 Freezing cold

If you own a PS4 or PC and don't want to see third party multi platform games ending up as exclusives on inferior machines, (after being thrown a ton of cash in a panic by Microsoft) then you would do well to steer clear of this title until it's around £10.

Exclusives are exclusives, but you don't go buying multi format games to try to boost a weak console, should have kept Lionhead Studios and all the others they got rid of, (probably to pay for this exclusive)... should have remained multi format on release

Cold if this gets good sales it sends a message that companies can get with this timed release ****.

I liked the last Tomb Raider but this game will be nearly a year old on launch. It does have DLC added but just compare it to games like MGS5 or Witcher 3 which both could be picked up for £15-20 under a year after launch and both have far more content than this game. Only game i can recall that t held it's launch price a year latter is GTA5.

£20 is a good price for this.

Hot for the price. But just wait until a month or so after launch. It will go down to below £25 just like the XB1 version did.

Great stuff! :smiley:

£30 by launch, just saying :wink:

Better... but still too much for me

Played this on xbone. Will wait for reductions

Hot for the price. But just wait until a month or so after launch. It will go down to below £25 just like the XB1 version did.

Anyone know if the game runs 60fps on ps4?

Is this the newer TR? The one that was released on the XB1 first?


Edit: it appears it is the newer one, happy days.

Cold if this gets good sales it sends a message that companies can get with this timed release ****.

I liked the last Tomb Raider but this game will be nearly a year old on launch. It does have DLC added but just compare it to games like MGS5 or Witcher 3 which both could be picked up for £15-20 under a year after launch and both have far more content than this game. Only game i can recall that t held it's launch price a year latter is GTA5.

£20 is a good price for this.

I really liked the first one. Was looking forward to this, but you can't deny it's lost some steam after a year on the bench. What a shame for Crystal Dynamics...

Can see this dropping in price pretty quickly, given the vast number of new titles out around the time of release. Good price for now, but I'll pick up cheaper later!

I sort of have some sympathy with them. You can't blame them for wanting to avoid going head to head with 'Uncharted 4', - which is what was on the cards until 'U4' got delayed - but it's a real shame for them that MS didn't push it and it under performed at retail.

I'd like a third game. I think I'll probably pick this up in the release window.

completed the first one several times but am only about half way through and haven't touched it since getting there a good few months back

Agreed with the point regarding supporting the concept of timed releases.

Also agree this will be dirt cheap a month or two after release.

They've made us wait this long, they can go eff themselves and wait a while longer

I'm the same. I like the game but I've waited long enough already. I'll pick it up when it's £20 and not before.

What is the release date? I know I can easily search it but this should be in the OP

Amazing game, it did plummet on PC and Xbone though

It doesn't, as it says that is the release date for the new DLC. If it's the same as the release date for the port, that is not stated. For all I know this could be releasing in November while including October's DLC as well as all DLC so far.

There's a zombies mode wow heat

Will be buying this, but not at this price.

I get what you're saying, but this is out on the 11th too.

All DLC
VR Support
Coop Mode
Zombies
Nixxes

Very very nice :smiley:

Tomb Raider dead to me for selling out to Microsoft to aid their flagging console.

Old game now, and a tired franchise.. should be £9.99 Freezing cold

If you own a PS4 or PC and don't want to see third party multi platform games ending up as exclusives on inferior machines, (after being thrown a ton of cash in a panic by Microsoft) then you would do well to steer clear of this title until it's around £10.

Exclusives are exclusives, but you don't go buying multi format games to try to boost a weak console, should have kept Lionhead Studios and all the others they got rid of, (probably to pay for this exclusive)... should have remained multi format on release

'dead to me' :smiley:
Maybe time for a wee holiday. Some sunshine.

I am on holiday, thanks for asking....

The cover of the PS4 version is balls. :disappointed:

cover art sure seems nice

Great bargain, not sure if i am buying it day 1 but could you imagine the outrage if they just ported the game without the DLC and extra content. Seems they are doing this port right.

​then don't buy it.. why bother commenting if you're not interested?

I wouldn't mind getting this, but during October I'm a bit busy with family duties. In fact, I'll probably have to pack my PS4 away until after the new year cos I'll be soooooo busy. :disappointed:

I'm entitled to my opinion, as much as anyone else, if you don't want to see opposing comments, use another website

Wonder if TR Definitive Edition will be on ps+ just before this one is released. Been on sale too many times

yes the price will fall quickly after release, but you won't get artbook :P

Got this for the PC when it was released and it really is a phenomenal game. I loved the first one as well (not so keen on the originals!). I'm now just getting into Uncharted after recently getting a PS4. Almost finished the original. Wish there were more of these types of games available.

Heat from me. I loved Tomb Raider DE and I know I will love this too. It's a good price for a day one game, even if it does drop in price quickly.

ordered, thanks!!!

I own this game twice on xbox one, collectors edition and standard edition. Its an outstanding game and I'll also be picking this up on release for ps4, with all the dlc this is more than worth its price.
For all those stubborn people moaning about it selling out to Microsoft and not supporting it because of that reason I can only assume your fanboys, wait for it........

Even if it ran on the same settings as PC's low-medium it'd not be 60 FPS.
I'm don't know, but if I were to bet I'd bet a lot on it being up to 30 FPS.

​I've always rated fanboys in this order (in my older posts I've stuck by it), starting at worst: PS4, PC, Wii and then Xbox. Owning all 4 platforms that's my conclusion of what I've noticed over the years.

I'll get it at some point but I would of thought the starting price would of been £29.99. Either way I'm glad we have a date for it and does come with a load of extras :smiley:

At least you can grab all the new year bargains when you're ready to unpack that playstation again.

how's Base for delivery?

It's a great game, so never mind, you're the one who's missing out. I suppose that you're not bothered with the Fallout 4 mods either as they came to Xbone first, and since this is a Square Enix production you'll not be bothering with any of the upcoming Final Fantasy games?

I agree with the lad who said it was a crazy decision to not stay multi platform on release. I could have bought it on Xbox, but chose not to back then, due to game backlog overload.
That said, I'm also not sure where I'll find the time for this in between FFXV, Battlefield 1, COD x 2 and FIFA.

Tempted by the art book, that kind of thing is usually beautiful! Getting all the DLC is sensible.

I own all too and Xbox ones are the worst....

Fanboy wars now haha. :wink:

To be honest it's nothing to do with fanboys the points made in here... Niether console owner should want third party game makers to sign exclusive deals....

I also own all and +1 for Xbox owners. As you'd expect given the sales this gen and not having much to shout about. The biggest hype has been for RDR which as great as that game is, sums it up really...

Cute speech but it just reeks of immature fanboy bitterness. FYI, I've never owned an Xbox but I certainly wouldn't let business decisions influence my purchase. The console really isn't flagging either, sure PS4 is selling a lot more (because it's better of course) but to say it's flagging just shows your biased agenda again.

This is my "game of last year". Really fantastic, if you haven't played it yet, this is a great way to do so!

I'm too old to care about fanboi this and that, but you're wrong in your statement. When the exclusivity deal was given, Xbox was indeed flagging and struggling behind extremely strong PS4 growth.

I agree with what you're saying, and I've even liked your comment...but as a gamer, I really don't want to see another developer go under due to an underperforming game.

Yes, part of me feels the same as you, but then another part of me feels that Square Enix wouldn't bat an eyelid to close a developer down if they don't meet sales targets. You may say it serves them right, but I just think it would be sad for gamers to lose another quality developer like Crystal Dynamics.

For me, Rise of the Tomb Raider for the PS4 will be a brand new AAA game, as I haven't played it on the XB1...so I'm quite happy to commit to £34.99, which includes the contents of the season pass. But that is my opinion.

Great game - one of the few games I played on Xbone before buying a PS4. Interesting to see what it looks like.

I love it how whenever someone has a different opinion when it comes down to exclusives the first phrase to get thrown back always includes the word 'fanboy'.

Will buy it when it hits a fiver on PC.

I agree 200%

PC fanboys are by for the worse this gen, they even bicker amongst themselves

Yeah, so true. People are far too quick to say fanboy when someone has a slightly different opinion. I quite like the look of this game, not sure I'd be that bothered for it after completing Uncharted though. The developer has made a rod for their own back by making this a timed exclusive on Xbox. I'd suggest the fact they've been held back releasing until after Uncharted and have a release date so close to new iterations of very popular games coming out, this will be dead in the water and become a bargain title very quickly. £10-15 for me!

I fail to see how buying it on another system after the MS deal expires means that the exclusivity was a success.
People only bought it when it went down to sub £25 and even then they bought it on PC when that came out.
If you buy it on PS4 within the first week of release (because that's how publishers see success now) it shows that there's still money in the Tomb Raider name and as well as how buying the timed exclusivity rights to a game that is well in development for multiple platforms is a bad thing.

As all have said, played the reboot on my 360 and loved it, but as a PS4 owner having to wait a year over another console on a multiplatform game (particuarly one that yes was born on PC/dreamcast or whatver but Lara really is a Playstation icon) is stupid. This price will plummet, especially leading into christmas. Heat for the price now but just hold out, you've waited almost a year already anyway.

I see it a little differently, when RotTR inevitably sells more on PS4 on than it did on Xbox it will tell the publishers what a massive, massive mistake the timed exclusive was.

The cover is literally an imitation of Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection.

£34.99 have you seen the price of this on Xbox NOW!

Not even a figure with it. Think I shall pass

Non fanboys know that Lionhead studios was a loss maker for MS so why would you think a company that has a department that is no longer viable would do anything other than to get rid of it ?

What "Other" Studios do you think they "got rid of to pay for this exclusive" ?

Did Sony shut down 'Evolution Studios' the makers of Driveclub and MotorStorm to pay for their exclusivity of Streetfighter which also used to be a multi format game ? Or did they like MS shut it down because it was also a loss maker and no longer viable...

I'm looking forward to seeing if your opinion on what you call "inferior machines" stays the same when the Sony Neo and the Xbox Scorpio are released.

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This is a great game and coming with all DLC is a bargain

You're absolutely right!...I didn't see that at first glance.

Might bite if there are noticeable enhancements compared to Xbox One (apart from resolution) However, that's probably wishful thinking. I do like the classic skins though. Nice touch.

will pick it up when it's £10. didn't take long for Xbox one version to drop.

When you're an adult it's very easy to spot. Fanboy is usually used by people who have some strange loyalty to a brand and cannot stand any negatives. Considering I'm a neutral (and not 14) who could if I wanted have any console I wanted like most people can, I have no agenda. It's just cutting your nose to spite your face all in the name of some ridiculous brand loyalty.
I try not to use it too much, and I don't disagree with some of his statement but it's the most blatant 'fanboy' post I've seen in a while, to the point I did consider if it was just a troll post trying to bait MS lovers.

Not selling as many does not equal flagging. Flagging behind PS4 sales yes but then they were tremendous so kind of a moot point.

I have waited a year for this game so will wait another year till it drops to 9.99

Great deal, but gonna go with Stopto for the art book methinks. My wife and I are longtime TR fans so an extra fiver for the artbook seems like it's worth it.

According to MS's recent financials, hardware sales are down 33% on last year.
vg247
I get the feeling that Xbox is going to become more of a service than a device, going forward.

They killed off a lot of potential Xbox one sales by announcing 'scorpio' IMO.

Although Base.com don't explicitly put this in the description, it seems as though all "pre-orders" will receive the artwork book as a bonus...so I would expect it to come with this deal too.

You could always contact Base.com directly to confirm this, if it's a deciding factor for you..it could save you nearly a fiver over the ShopTo deal :smiley:

​Never said you wasn't entitled to your opinion, as somebody who has all 3 platforms, I honestly don't mind the timed exclusives, gives me a reason to buy the game on that platform, I don't see why it's a big deal, looks amazing on Xbox One & PC and I'm sure it'll look great on PS4 too

I can understand all negativity around it being a timed release title and game is ultimately a year old now, but to be honest it is still a new game for us PS4 owners. It doesn't really matter when xbox got it, it's not like there's any cross platform functionality where they will be further developed in the game or anything, so it doesn't really matter. End of the day it should be treated like a new game, if you really want to play it then get it, if you don't think it's worth it then by all means wait, I very rarely buy a game on release at full price, it's always worth waiting a little. Let just not forget that it is a NEW game of us.

So people refuse to play games if they've been out for a year already?

Id love to know if you bought Streetfighter 5? Clearly bought exclusive there from Capcom

your the one that sound like a bit of a rise of the tomb raider fanboy tbh, you getting it for pc/gameboy advance and dreamcast aswell?

I think the point people are making is that there are thousands of people who have supported the tomb raider games throughout the past 20yrs on PlayStation and the games producers have cashed in on an Xbox exclusive knowing it is gong to disappoint a large portion of their fan base. They now have to flog it with a bunch of DLC and art work to try and justify the £35 price of a year old game! On the bright side it will be £20 before Xmas so happy days! :smile:

That's not 100% accurate, read this Lionhead Story
There was a lot more to it than first revealed.
Also, "inferior" doesn't necessarily mean power.

It wasn't there when I ordered mine this morning but there's now a second image (posted back on page one) that states 'pre order to receive artbook'.

I bought an Xbone almost exclusively because of this game last December.

Brilliant game and don't regret purchasing the console to compliment my PS4 and Wii U.

Only reason I held back on buying one for so long was because of Mattrick running his mouth off in in his farewell speech at E3.

There's plenty of top games on Xbox you're never going to get to play on Playstation and vice versa so I don't get the fan baby nonsense at all.

Rise of the Tomb Raider is a very special game, if you not got it on one of the other two platforms it's already out on then with all the DLC lobbed in this is great price for PS4, heat from me.

I hear you man but that's exactly what Microsoft did to get people on board for an Xbox ONE.

I'm looking to sell mine now as I've played everything I wanted to play since I picked it up. No personal hatred towards Microsoft, its just run its course for me and the titles I now want to play generally are appearing on Sony's console now.

Great...I've updated the title accordingly.

Streetfighter 5? ...............Dead to me :smiley:


Well, you kind of did.

I had an Xbox One at launch actually, sold it on after a few months. I certainly wasn't going to buy another just for one game. The issue with me was that Tombraider which started on the PC had a fanbase that Microsoft tried to purchase. That aside, PS4 and PC gamers should be annoyed by this.


Publishers only care about 1 thing....... money

The only way they will learn is if they're hit in the pockets, if the PS4 versions outsells the XBOX then the publisher is laughing all the way to the bank, and they will see it as an excellent move all round and will probably do it again.

Probably best that you don't reply to my posts no matter how short your reply.

no longer available....

Expire it's no longer available

I have every right to reply to your posts, simply click "ignore" if you don't want to see them. I haven't broken any site rules.

The placing on the logo in the middle and sameish style, the colour shading and transparency, the logos around the box samely placed

Forza Horizon 3 and Gears of War 4 would like to say hello.....nothing on my PS4 will be better than those 2 for the remainder of this year.

Cold. Not available!

ha, another 2 tired franchises they keep churning out for imbeciles to purchase

Forza hasn't been good since Forza 2

Gears of war hasn't been 'ok' since the first one

I would concur to a degree but it is down to personal preference of genre.

The Last Guardian is something as many people will be excited about as will be about the new Forza or GoW titles.

expired 39,99 now

everywhere prices went up, why?

Seeing you're both so hard core about your preferred console why don't you arrange a meet via DM so you can have a tear up about it.

Whoever puts the other one in to intensive care proves his chosen gaming plarform is superior

Simple solution to fan boy/girl wars is them actually going to war :smirk:

Lets be honest, one of the worst things to have ever graced gaming was Peter Molyneux. He's destroyed almost everything he's touched and his arrogance nearly outright destroyed Lionhead well before MS laid them to rest. Lionhead never fully recovered from Fable 3. Ever wonder why the offical forums got pulled? Not only because of the vitriol aimed their way by gamers, because some devs began airing their dirty laundry. Exposing PM for what he was.

I genuinely have no idea why any gaming site worth its salt gives PM an iota of exposure in this day and age, but some do. I think only one or 2 journalists have called him out for what he is, the others are either too frightened for some bizarre reason or dtill regard him as a source of information. He's a grade A nugget.

£35 for a year old game? is that a good deal now? not a chance i will buy this. Especially when you can get Uncharted for less. Going by the cover of Tomb Raider it looks like they have been trying to steal some of that Naughty Dog shine.

I've tried to expire the deal, but it doesn't seem to have worked...could one of the mods please expire this deal as the price has now gone up to £39.99.

With all Xbox one exclusives now will be available on PC now on no point for owning a Xbox.

You read something you don't like and call it 'fanboyism'.... I have owned every console since the 80's.

Forums are for debate, you need to get used to this fact.

i'm not hard core about 1 platform, my point was very clear regarding multi format games turning into exclusives, nothing more, nothing less. As you don't appear smart enough to see my original point, you may want to stick with mumsnet

Love a bit of womb raiding

What about if you don't own a PC? See what I did there made your comment look silly.

Blimey touché flower, have I read through this entire thread?

No I ain't but have I seen you slate out big hitting franchises from one platform out of clear favouritism towards the other platform?

Yes I have! So feel free to suggest I'm not intellectually sufficient enough to shine your shoes, never mind hold a 'debate' with you, as much as you like but it's not cutting it!

Having owned every console since Archimedes gobbed off eureka does not make you immune from having brand loyalty and/or holding bias against another product.

You proved that on the previous page, now away with your muggy mumsnet remarks et all:{

This is a PS4 game thread, in which I am commenting on purely for reasons explained. In the same thread I also berated Microsoft.

I will criticise everything and everything if i feel it is warranted

My comment about historic console ownership only goes to refute your rather silly fanboy claim, since I cannot possible have allegiance to one company as you suggest in this case i am deemed a Sony fanboy?

In fact i used to run a very popular xbox game save website.

I have no bias to a specific brand of console, i treat every console on their own merits

It was so popular in fact that you went on and graduated to arguing with me on here about why it's not possible you could ever be a fan boy/girl :smirk:

Also buy it used so they don't see one penny.

Now you fail to understand past tense? the key word was used

It wasn't for advancing my career or graduating, it was just for fun

Nearly the same pleasure I get conversing with you :wink:

I'll get a second hand copy in a month for 10-15 quid.They can do one for a sealed copy, not happening after that wait

In a month eh, how can you manage that when the game don't even come out for another 3 months?

Yep I stated THREE months, so that makes you rather incompetent in the art of.......



Hop on :smirk:

Are you trying to give me, an illiterate uneducated working class oik, English grammar lessons in the art of using the present and past tense?

Indubitably

​Microsoft funded development, it wouldn't have happened without the exclusivity.That being said, I thought this game paled in comparison to the earlier game.

Makes zero sense since the game isn't out for 3 months LOL.

I'm not entirely sure that's true, I had a friend on the dev team and as far as he understood it a sequel was always going to happen, Microsoft approached the publishers and offered the money. It most likely lead to an increase in budget but Square were always going to make a sequel to such a highly rated game.

I can't say I have any appetite for Gears, but I am mighty jealous of the Forza series. Being able to bat out quality racing games on an annual basis has been too much for the Polyphony folks, who spend an age making one game! :disappointed:

Turn10 'bat out' Forza games with less features each time..... instead of fixing something, they remove it.

Obviously i meant from the release date..................dummy

Ah do they? I've not played any of the recent ones to any great depth. They seem enjoyable. I'm hoping GT Sport is decent enough- but we need a proper GT7!

A lot of pseudo intellectual **** swinging going in this thread. The day I'm influenced by some jumped up arrogant ****, who thinks we're all beneath him, will be the day I jump into bed with some faceless corporation that has used questionable practices every bit as bad as the other faceless corp I'm defending. The real fools are those who believe there's a single multi national corporation that wouldn't use the same tactics as another if it meant more $$$$$$$$$ or £££££££££'s. Here's my wallet.