I don't know what you've got against HP. Their brown sauce is absolutely scrumptious.

but it is full HD

Full-HD (1920 x 1080) display

Waiting for "its not full hd " comment. And then that guy who tells resolution;)

Pity you can't get smaller screen for this sort of price and same spec, eyed this up last night but really need smaller screen - any helpers ?

Nb good deal.

£400? This must be a joke :laughing:

How is this i3 equivalent to an older i5 - don't all i5s have cache which the i3 does not?

Isn't this quite expensive for an i3?

Looks decent to me for sub £400. It's got a decent screen too and Ssd who could ask for more!:wink:

Ok thanks for the reply.

Quite a decent sub £400 laptop. Usually they have Celerons or Pentiums or standard HD but this is pretty good.

Hot from me.

Alu body would be nice but guess I'm asking for too much?

Would love to see similar specs with a smaller screen!

Would this be able to handle photoshop?

Avidly hunting for extra discount codes

This has a M.2 SSD. Would I be right in assuming that it has space for another 3.5" HDD/SSD as well, or am I out of my wish tree?

Sorry I ment 2.5".

Any examples of anything decent with 4k (happy with 15.6inch)?

I can see a few previous gen i7 with 4k that look OK.

Any discount codes?

Cheers OP. Looking for a laptop for the outlaws. 3% Quidco atm.

2.5 % off brings it down to £389.03
Use code CQ316HPAF62

Anyone know if this model has good battery life?

I'd rather keep my money than give it to HP

#BDS

Have a look at the Acer on QVC higher spec was same price as TSV

Yeah I'd like to know this as well, rare to find an SSD, let alone a 256gb one, in a laptop this cheap. Would be nice to have a spare 2.5" bay though to throw in a traditional HDD as well

Don't know why people are so fixated on FHD on such a small screen. The icons and text will be tiny if you run it at native resolution. I remember a time when 15" laptop screens had 1024x768 resolutions.

On my 24" monitor at home I run 1920x1080 and it's comfortable. On the 22" screens at work that run on the same resolution I have to increase the text size to 'medium'. I've seen people who don't know how to do that and end up squinting at their screens for 7 hours a day.

Would this run football manager 2016 on a decent setting with the 3D match engine enabled? Or would I need a dedicated graphics card? Thanks

All I want is a laptop with the body of an macbook and a mind that's windows. Add in a retina (brightness and resolution) display and a reasonable price, then I'm sold.

Is it backlit keyboard? I can't find that information.

Absolutely no need for a graphics card to play Football Manager mate. This will run it fine.

This one went the other night for £250!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toshiba-Satellite-P50T-B-10K-IntelCore-i7-4700HQ-2-4GHz-15-6-Laptop-PC-/361623955369

This is the only live auction of which I am currently aware ATM:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-YOGA-3-PRO-13-3-inch-UHD-Silver-Intel-Core-M-5Y71-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-/272294694790

You just need to keep an eye out really - generally get 0-4 new listings each day, some of which are new, some used, some spares/repair.

A strange amount of RAM imo... :confused:

​doesn't mention that kb is backlit in the HP specs so I'd guess not

Anyone know if it's ips or tn panel?

Have you ever compared 1440 x 2560 and 1080 x 1920 on smartphones? The higher resolution looks nicer even on screens that are

there is something called scaling...here using 1080p on surface 3 and its great.

I don't know what you've got against HP. Their brown sauce is absolutely scrumptious.

That's what happens when a factory has a load of old 2GB sticks lurking, some clever sod puts them with the current 4GB sticks and hopes no one will notice.... probably not a problem for most people but it means this ram won't be running in dual channel mode,

Pile of plastic, decent sized SSD is nice but it's only about £45 value. Nothing to justify the premium.



No it ain't. It's almost equivalent to 2nd gen i5. Graphics will be better though.

Go buy a refurb thinkpad. Got myself one of those X1 Carbons recently for £350, way better machine. Haswell i7 / 8gb / 250gb SSD, wrapped up in spacecraft grade carbon fibre, only 20mm thick and 1.2kg, and with the build quality befitting a £1000 laptop. Or if you like chunky, have around 150x T520 on the go at work, fantastic computers :smiley: Lost 2 so far, both user destruction and repairable :smiley:

Thanks for this, wanted something with a HD screen, a reasonably sized SSD (The new computing miracle IMO) and a good bit of power overall.

Theres nothing I found for the same price that compares to this.

As for those talking about refurbs, that's always an option but I think laptops have a fairly limited life so would rather buy new. No right or wrong answer there but feel more comfortable buying new myself.

hp has some new pavillians out they look alot better with better battery life .I'm waiting for the gold one with full hd and ssd they only have the scrappy results ones on there store atm

but is 255 Gb sufficient nowadays?

Plastic consumer laptops have a limited life, decent business grade machines do not - my first Thinkpad, a 560X is still in full working order today, now 18 years old..... and even on it's original charger :smiley: Battery down to about 20 minutes life but also still the original :smiley:

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what about this one?
Must be faster than i3 and even a bit cheaper. All other specs are the same.

Having had more HP lap tops fall apart than I can remember I would steer clear .. High spec at the expense of shocking build quality

Passmark results look around the same and 3D mark looks about 20-30% better. On mobile so too arduous to exhaustively check individual benchmarks, power consumption but I would expect it to be less efficient, slower in single threaded tasks and floating-point work and have a lower resale price when you come to sell it. But I imagine it'll be a bit better at gaming, although both are clearly not gaming machines.

I smashed my HP laptop screen over the weekend.

Is it possibe to replace it (cheaply) or do I need to buy a new laptop?

Thanks

OOS

OOS

buy the lcd panel on ebay and replace it yourself. just type in the model number and the world LCD.

Or plug in external monitor and use as a desktop (if practical).

Good deal. I suggest you post it.

Is it simple to do?

Nice find,bought one for my dad.

Based on working on Photoshop almost every day of the week, I'd definitely want to upgrade to at least 8gb, unless you're editing small files one at a time. Then if it's photos you're editing, you might want to consider Lightroom too which will often be open at the same time as Photoshop, using up even more ram.

I've got one, a Dell Inspiron 7537 (FHD not retina). Look them up, love mine. If you want retina(2k/4k) screen though you will need to be prepared to pay. Look on the Dell outlet site for the XPS 15s but then you are looking at Macbook Pro money from the Apple refurb store.

You do know you can install Windows on a mac? Best thing I did to my Macbook Pro 15" was to install Windows on it, ran superbly looked stunning and gave you the option to boot to OSX or Windows depending on what you were wanting to do. Apple are missing a trick by not having an option to purchase with a Windows license and come dual booted as i'm sure more people would buy if they could have Windows pre installed.

Where did you get yours from?

Would this run Sims 3 and 4 ?

Interesting.. Is that easy to do, and does it run well?

Boot Camp on a Mac is a doddle Apple do it all for you through the Boot Camp tool all you need to do is follow the instructions and have your Windows disc to hand. Have a read:

https://www.apple.com/uk/support/bootcamp/

And it runs flawlessly, Apple have all the Windows drivers ready as part of the Boot Camp tool you don't need to go looking for anything other than 3rd party drivers for peripherals such as printers etc which are just standard for Windows. I only sold my Macbook Pro as it was worth so much and got my money back for it and knew for what I needed a laptop for a cheaper Windows laptop would be fine so I got the Dell 7537 with aluminium body and backlit keyboard and is basically Dell's copy of a Macbook Pro.

Really the biggest issue is deciding how big to have your partitions for Windows and OSX as the later versions of Macs have such small drives on them being SSD.

​becuase the text are clearer. I have a Envy 13 with QHD+ screen on 13 inch. crystal clear IPS display. yes I have to run everything at 200% but it's the clarity that I like. once I used a phone with over 320dpi I just could not go back. cost me £650 but I'm happy.

​thats why I bought the house Envy 13 at £650 with another £50 for 3 years warranty. thinner and lighter than a Macbook air, i5 and 256 SSD and a while lit cheaper. I was going to get and air but very bad screen. also was going to get a retina pro Macbook but I knew I would run windows so that defeated the purpose!.

Has this deal expired? I'm being redirected to HP Laptops and not the actual product itself

Think is has expired.
AMD alternative is very similar. http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=T9P13EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

Similair spec £20 cheaper - the other one expired/sold out I believe

http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=T9P13EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

we've had a number of HPs and the older model reliability has been lost. issues include: Overheat, fried/dead, poor repair quality, In fact, the only modern system that has worked well was the free upgrade & replacement to a much higher spec. PC organised By HP Customer Services after an escalated official complaint and seven (I think) attempts at repairs.- most of which just introduced new faults. Even then they failed to follow through 100% with the accessories, going into denial due to an inability to find records of the replacement at their end. At least we already had the replacement! Sorry HP - bitten too many times by quality to return to your fold.

HP alone is enough to put one off. Their after sales service is extremely poor. From first hand experience I have agreed a compromise with a faulty printer only for HP to renege. So beware the deal may look good, as long as nothing goes wrong.

Tier1online , http://www.tier1online.com/ or http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tier-1-Online , their ebay price is fluctuating up and down but give them a call direct and ask them for a discount :smiley: The ~ £350 ish is a B grade with screen marks, but I've seen three, all have been barely noticable and good condition all round.

Given the feedback here I'm considering this route.

How long have you had yours and have there been any annoyances?

What's the battery life like?

I'm assuming if its Windows 7 onwards you can still free upgrade to 10?

Also is there any indication on how long these laptops have been used for previously?

If you could help I would be most grateful!

I've had the X1 Carbon for a couple of weeks, the capacitive multi function row at the top of the keyboard is gimicky and annoying but other than that all positive - got one for work, and liked it enough to buy one personally too

I've personally had refurbished Thinkpad 560x, T60, X60, T410, X220, T520 in the past and all have been excellent and all are still working, save the T60 that fell down the stairs - still works mostly, just screen cuts out now and then, needing a wiggle. At work, I sourced and deployed about 150x T520's, in use by kids and teachers for over a year now and doing great, had 2 failures so far, one works fine but dropped onto concrete and some plastic cracked, another is actually dead - a pint of water spilled over it.

Battery life on the X1C around 6-9 hours. X220, around 5-8 hours. T520 around 2-4 hours. Thinkpads have controllers on the batteries that don't charge unnecessarily - it makes a world of difference, they rarely die and degrade very slowly.

Free upgrade from 7 to 10 is only till 31st July. Free upgrade from 8 to 10 is until further notice. The X1C comes with 8.1 pro by default, pick that (no extra cost) and it will upgrade to 10 pro.

The X1C v2 only came out in 2014, so less than 2 years :smiley: Both mine, work and personal, are still under Lenovo warranty (they come with 3yr as standard). Also, unlike plasticky consumer laptops, Thinkpads weather their years verrrryyyy well. Use a cheap HP/Asus/Acer for 6 months and it will look worse than a 10 year old Thinkpad.

I thought X1s had pretty bad reviews?

Most of the negativity is unupgradability (soldered ram, but it is 8gb), no SD card slot, no full size ethernet and the silly capacitive row instead of f1-f12. Pretty specific - it's still a solid laptop! And if any of that bothers you, grab a T or X series instead :smiley: