Personally ordered from them 4 times and each time with no problems. Never had to go through refund/return process so can't comment on that but goods are are described and price is often unbeatable.
Publix
15 Jul 161#4
Please, please, please, for once,
Can I be 1st to say:
15.6" (1366 x 768 HD Resolution)
Good deal imo.
pc5020
15 Jul 161#5
Great spec, crap res...:disappointed:
Pondlife to pc5020
15 Jul 169#7
Unlike all those other QHD 300 quid laptops eh
jelezsu
15 Jul 16#6
For general use, not gaming, not a vast amount of photos, not used as TV, do I buy this 4GB + 128SSD or go for 8GB + 500HDD version or 1TB even, still on XP myself so don't know how much Windows 10 will gobble up before I start.
spaghettihooha to jelezsu
15 Jul 162#8
I would personally go with the SSD. You may need to do a little housekeeping on the drive every now and then to make sure you have 10GB or so free. At the outset I would imagine you will have close to 100GB free. As far as I'm aware, upgrading the memory can be done later on but you have to prise the back off as there are no access panels. Not ideal but reasonably easy. I think there is a video on youtube to help. If you want to do it the other way round and upgrade to an SSD afterwards that works also but obviously you'd need to reinstall. Much more time consuming than upgrading the memory. However that way you could bang in a 250GB SSD instead and be a little safer with disk space. Either way you will notice a great deal of difference using the SSD over a normal HDD.
Pondlife to jelezsu
15 Jul 16#9
How much storage have you used on the XP one?
pc5020
15 Jul 16#10
Exactly
jelezsu
15 Jul 16#11
pondlife - about 150gb
Pondlife to jelezsu
15 Jul 16#16
Then it might be a struggle to use one that bit smaller.
Alex007
15 Jul 16#12
great deal heat added, been waiting for tesco to get more in stock but might as well order from here as it's the same price
ndksamb
15 Jul 16#13
Is this worth the extra £50 over the i3 version on tesco direct?
Yabbadabbadont to ndksamb
15 Jul 161#14
Yes, no, maybee
dkwookies to ndksamb
15 Jul 16#17
Deffo, that I3 at tesco is last gen version. This one is skylake which is faster, especially in the graphics department.
This looks like a really good deal
Pondlife to ndksamb
15 Jul 16#18
Depends what you'll use it for.
Publix
15 Jul 161#15
If you need disk space, you'd surely replace the DVD re-writer.
I have lived with a 128GB SSD for 3.5 years on a Toshiba Z930 by using a (now) 200GB Sandisk mSD card which I backup via USB3 to a 500GB SSD enclosed in a Conrad HDD 2.5 casing. (In addition to backing up the 128GB C: drive.)
Of the nominal 128GB, the W10 + Office 2010 C drive status now is
83.5 used
13.6 free
with 99% of my user files on the 200GB mSD.
I still think this is a good deal, because the powerful 6th Gen I5 processor together with the SSD and USB3 will minimize the frustration of slow startup, constant maintenance, constant security scanning and regular back up required by today's Windows 10 systems.
superfreddy to Publix
15 Jul 16#19
Can you explain more about this msd you're referring too please?
jdandi
15 Jul 161#20
is it a glossy or matte screen?
Struggle to understand why this is not standard info or am I not getting something? :confused:
haritori
15 Jul 161#21
Sick of hearing this resolution argument, a good quality screen isnt always dependant on the resolution, you can get 1366x768 screens that outshine 1920x1080 screens, there are many factors from brightness, contrast, colour depth and so on.. now I understand that most 768p vs 1080p screens will favour the latter, but its not always cut & dry.
Id take a nice 1366x768 screen over a crappy light bleeding washout 1080p any day.
Anyone who automatically assumes 1366x768 = bad is simply a moron.
Publix
16 Jul 16#22
msd = MicroSDXC card.
My Z930 has an SD card reader slot as does this HP 250 G4. My SD card slot is on the left side next to the headphone slot, level with the Esc key on the keyboard. I keep a 200GB SanDisk microSDXC card permanently in that slot. So Windows 10 + office 2010 + Chrome etc + MyDocuments + My blah blah + recovery partition etc are all on the nominally 128GB C: drive.
The permanently inserted 200GB Sandisk MicroSDXC card appears as drive D: It is on this drive that I save/keep all my own files. Periodically I copy the entire contents of this 200GB microSDXC over the USB3 link to a portable 500GB SSD.
I also run W10 Start > Settings > Update & Security > Backup > W7 Backup & Restore of the C: drive over the same USB3 link to the same Portable Conrad Cased 500GB SSD.
If I wish to concurrently wish to access another SD or mSD card, I have a Kingston G3 Lite card reader that plugs into any available USB2 or USB3 connection slot. The HP has 2x USB 2.0, 1x USB 3.0
The 200GB SanDisk micro SDXC card cost me £49.99 delivered on an Amazon 24 hour (not Prime) deal posted here!
Feel free to query again for additional info. Glad to help. You're welcome.
ndksamb
16 Jul 16#23
Just general browsing and and few word documents for daughters homework, have an Acer at minute that keeps freezing and is running slow so looking for something that will last a few years and be a bit nippy, my phone is faster than my laptop :confused:
Pondlife
16 Jul 16#24
What's the Acer got in it, which processor, how much ram, hard drive rather than SSD?
squiby
16 Jul 16#25
Got one from tesco and it will be going back, crazy battery drain while off. i thought i was leaving on sleep but checked properly last few days. If i want to use a laptop off the charger id buy a 100 quid banger off ebay lol
mackpapa39
16 Jul 16#26
Wow that's disappointing squiby as was keenly looking at this but not sounding so great now, cheers for your experience. Anyone else got any good or bad feedback with using this particular laptop? ThAnks
mackpapa39
16 Jul 16#27
And also how easy is it to upgrade the ram to 8gb? Could a beginner do it and if so what is the ram type ddr3 or ddr3s? Thanks
HarryFenner
16 Jul 162#28
Description here says :
39,6 cm (15.6") diagonal HD SVA anti-glare flat LED-backlit (1366 x 768)
which I take to mean matte. Might be worth finding a YouTube review to get an idea how good the display is.
superfreddy
16 Jul 16#29
Thanks. Is that safe though to use an SD card as constant internal memory like that?
superfreddy
16 Jul 16#30
I have the i3 version and the fan is really loud. Think I'll be returning it.
kotr
16 Jul 16#31
Reinstall? You have obviously never cloned a hard drive. Takes 5 minutes
spaghettihooha
16 Jul 16#32
I was replying to the guy who posed the above question. Sure you can clone the HDD but that presumes he has the equipment, software and knowledge with which to do so. I'm guessing he has none of these. To suggest he could do it all in 5 minutes is a little unhelpful.
KrispiiDuck
16 Jul 16#33
If you don't need the DVD writer, buy a hard drive "caddy" to slot in there and stick a terabyte conventional hard drive in it
Publix
16 Jul 16#34
I've probably used 3 Quality cards over the last 3.5 years; 64GB > 128GB > 200GB as they got cheaper and faster.
I backup the cards with the same frequency as I back up the rest of the laptop.
So.... is that safe ?? Never had a card fail yet in 3.5 years.
Nor has my TOSHIBA THNSNS128GMCP.
One thing is for sure. I will never, never, never, never again buy a laptop that doesn't have it's OS on an SSD.
Take KrispiDuck's #33 post advice, maybe after the warranty has expired if you're inexperienced. Plenty of how to video nowadays.
Anyway, good luck, whatever you decide to do.
Uridium
16 Jul 16#35
Well done for backing up., most don't....you could really streamline that backup though with a couple of single line commands :smiley:
Run both from an elevated CMD prompt Start>cmd>right click>run as administrator (Assuming your EXT HDD is drive E:\)
WBADMIN START BACKUP –backupTarget:e: -Include:c:
(Assuming your SDCard is drive D:\ and your EXT HDD is drive E:\)
Robocopy D:\ E:\ /S /XO /SEC /TEE /R:1 /W:1 /Log:D:\backup.txt
Publix
16 Jul 16#36
Thank you for that ...:smile:
Regarding backup - Years ago I sat down at work one morning, turned on my desktop and the C drive died as I logged in.
A very competent IT department couldn't do anything with it.
This was a personal wake up that led me to invest in backup at home and on my personal laptop as well.
I have a 3TB Hitachi USB3 for my home desktop and a portable caddy'ed 500GB SSD for my personal laptop.
superfreddy
16 Jul 16#37
Are you using a micro SD card in an adapter and using it as default storage space on your laptop?
jdandi
16 Jul 16#38
THANKS HARRY
superfreddy
16 Jul 16#39
Comparing this with the i3, in what way will it be quicker with what the laptop can actually do? It can't do gaming.
Publix
16 Jul 16#40
Yes, using the adapter that it came with. No but I am security and organizationally minded and don't let much default, but rather choose what to do with it.
e.g. Download would go to windows defined download on the c:\ drive but I would redirect it to the relevant personal or work folder. I don't believe in having a barn load of unrelated stuff to scroll through to find what I need.
An i3 is pretty quick at general tasks, which is in the HP 250, but I just can't see how the i5 would do that any quicker than the i3 can. I thought high CPUs were for demanding tasks, something which this laptop wouldn't be capable of? I.e gaming.
mackpapa39
17 Jul 16#43
Would this run football manager 2016 on a half decent setting with match 3D engine enabled? Also would a 4GB memory upgrade make a big difference? Cheers
1lluminati
17 Jul 16#44
The 6200U + HD 520 integrated GPU can do some gaming. even FIFA 16 works with 60+ FPS during gameplay.
I wouldn't buy a HP though. Pay £20 more for the Dell Vostro 3559.
1lluminati
17 Jul 16#45
yes it should run on max settings, and I would add another 4GB memory (get some Kingston DDR3 off Amazon)
integrated GPUs have a big advantage from dual channel RAM
superfreddy
17 Jul 16#46
I tried Alan Wake on the i3 and it struggled on low settings.
mackpapa39
17 Jul 16#47
Seems to be £389.99 for comparable Dell Vostro 3559 with 4GB Ram and 128GB SSD at ebuyer, almost a £100 dearer. Is it worth the extra as would like SSD drive. http://m.ebuyer.com/749940
Yorlasty
17 Jul 16#48
This laptop comes with 128GB SSD.
mackpapa39
17 Jul 16#49
Just wondering if the Dell is worth an extra £90 as similar spec? Presuming better build quality though ? Would have expected 8GB ram for nearer £400 though ?
superfreddy
17 Jul 16#50
You can add 4GB to the hp easily. I'm just daring myself to do it.
coalfield
18 Jul 16#51
Has this price gone up? I see £329.97?
Relz92
18 Jul 16#52
Looks like it mate, was just about to pull the trigger on this too.
johnson293
18 Jul 16#53
My old acer has just died, so looking for a possible new laptop (at the right price).
The i5 one has gone up as mentioned, but they have the same machine with the i3-5005U processor (same RAM and SSD) for £269.97
Opening post
15.6" HD Screen
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
4GB DDR3 RAM
128GB SSD
DVD Rewriter
Integrated Graphics
USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth
Firmware TPM
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Can I be 1st to say:
15.6" (1366 x 768 HD Resolution)
Good deal imo.
This looks like a really good deal
I have lived with a 128GB SSD for 3.5 years on a Toshiba Z930 by using a (now) 200GB Sandisk mSD card which I backup via USB3 to a 500GB SSD enclosed in a Conrad HDD 2.5 casing. (In addition to backing up the 128GB C: drive.)
Of the nominal 128GB, the W10 + Office 2010 C drive status now is
83.5 used
13.6 free
with 99% of my user files on the 200GB mSD.
I still think this is a good deal, because the powerful 6th Gen I5 processor together with the SSD and USB3 will minimize the frustration of slow startup, constant maintenance, constant security scanning and regular back up required by today's Windows 10 systems.
Struggle to understand why this is not standard info or am I not getting something? :confused:
Id take a nice 1366x768 screen over a crappy light bleeding washout 1080p any day.
Anyone who automatically assumes 1366x768 = bad is simply a moron.
My Z930 has an SD card reader slot as does this HP 250 G4. My SD card slot is on the left side next to the headphone slot, level with the Esc key on the keyboard. I keep a 200GB SanDisk microSDXC card permanently in that slot. So Windows 10 + office 2010 + Chrome etc + MyDocuments + My blah blah + recovery partition etc are all on the nominally 128GB C: drive.
The permanently inserted 200GB Sandisk MicroSDXC card appears as drive D: It is on this drive that I save/keep all my own files. Periodically I copy the entire contents of this 200GB microSDXC over the USB3 link to a portable 500GB SSD.
I also run W10 Start > Settings > Update & Security > Backup > W7 Backup & Restore of the C: drive over the same USB3 link to the same Portable Conrad Cased 500GB SSD.
If I wish to concurrently wish to access another SD or mSD card, I have a Kingston G3 Lite card reader that plugs into any available USB2 or USB3 connection slot. The HP has 2x USB 2.0, 1x USB 3.0
The 200GB SanDisk micro SDXC card cost me £49.99 delivered on an Amazon 24 hour (not Prime) deal posted here!
Feel free to query again for additional info. Glad to help. You're welcome.
39,6 cm (15.6") diagonal HD SVA anti-glare flat LED-backlit (1366 x 768)
which I take to mean matte. Might be worth finding a YouTube review to get an idea how good the display is.
Reinstall? You have obviously never cloned a hard drive. Takes 5 minutes
I backup the cards with the same frequency as I back up the rest of the laptop.
So.... is that safe ?? Never had a card fail yet in 3.5 years.
Nor has my TOSHIBA THNSNS128GMCP.
One thing is for sure.
I will never, never, never, never again buy a laptop that doesn't have it's OS on an SSD.
Take KrispiDuck's #33 post advice, maybe after the warranty has expired if you're inexperienced. Plenty of how to video nowadays.
Anyway, good luck, whatever you decide to do.
Run both from an elevated CMD prompt Start>cmd>right click>run as administrator
(Assuming your EXT HDD is drive E:\)
WBADMIN START BACKUP –backupTarget:e: -Include:c:
(Assuming your SDCard is drive D:\ and your EXT HDD is drive E:\)
Robocopy D:\ E:\ /S /XO /SEC /TEE /R:1 /W:1 /Log:D:\backup.txt
Regarding backup - Years ago I sat down at work one morning, turned on my desktop and the C drive died as I logged in.
A very competent IT department couldn't do anything with it.
This was a personal wake up that led me to invest in backup at home and on my personal laptop as well.
I have a 3TB Hitachi USB3 for my home desktop and a portable caddy'ed 500GB SSD for my personal laptop.
No but I am security and organizationally minded and don't let much default, but rather choose what to do with it.
e.g. Download would go to windows defined download on the c:\ drive but I would redirect it to the relevant personal or work folder. I don't believe in having a barn load of unrelated stuff to scroll through to find what I need.
Once you speed up file access by a factor of 20+, the processing of that data will become the bottleneck.
Take the recurring monthly Microsoft update - Malicious Software Removal Tool KB890830 released 7/12/2016.
MSRT is now being presented with SSD data to scan 20+ times faster than it was from your HDD.
Hence the benefit of a 6th Gen i5 over a 5th Gen i3.
And so on and so forth.
CPU Mark Rating
As of 16th of July 2016 - Higher results represent better performance
Intel Core i5-6200U @ 2.30GHz 3,936
Intel Core i3-5005U @ 2.00GHz 2,885
Courtesy PassMark Software © 2008-2016
I wouldn't buy a HP though. Pay £20 more for the Dell Vostro 3559.
integrated GPUs have a big advantage from dual channel RAM
http://m.ebuyer.com/749940
The i5 one has gone up as mentioned, but they have the same machine with the i3-5005U processor (same RAM and SSD) for £269.97
http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/T6P52EAABU-HP-250-G4_1876388.html
Worth it for £60 less than the i5? (at current prices)
Will use it for general internet, and maybe AutoCAD/Revit software for work.
Not a huge performance jump between the I3 and i5 options with this laptop. Both would handle Revit just about