Interpretation. Huawei is for people who have better things to spend their money on.

English could be his third language or he could be six years old so give him a break.

​Maybe if you use those methods of transport. Not everyone lives in London. Most people have things called cars.

You need to work on your tolerance. You sound horrid.

Had mine delivered and the packing was open thankfully the box with the phone in just slipped out as I held it... Crap Amazon packaging but fab phone.

​With regards to what?

Because Apple are ****.

What is it with the constant lazy Apple circle-jerk on this website?

That was clearly just one example. Millions upon millions of people live in London, and most of them don't have things called cars.

i also had the box delivered without a phone inside.

amazon packaging was pushed apart, phone removed and they left the accessories!?

It came with stickers! their loss

amazon replaced next day of course

Got mine.......great phone......why spend £400+?

All of those services work perfectly fine on 3G. 4G is only really needed if you want HD streaming video or high-speed file downloads on the go. And to that effect try downloading a large file or watching streaming video for longer than a couple of minutes using 4G on a train in this country and see how far you get.

Thanks for pointing out my spelling mistake, I've corrected it.

Oh, the irony....

​I read in news some time ago someone bought a sealed iPhone from tesco and found mud inside. Tesco reported him for fraud to the police . Only later the police found the iPhone was being used somewhere else and the poor guy never got it and got reported to the police as well.

They'll just a new one out……and block the other….

Amazon's got you covered

To protect your device if it's lost or stolen and ensure that it will be returned to you if found by police, we will automatically take these actions for all devices dispatched from, and sold by Amazon, without sharing any of your personal information:

• Register its serial number on the National Mobile Property Register used by the UK Police forces, so the police can help you get it back.

• Register its serial number on CheckMEND, a database used by over 9,000 secondhand traders, pawnbrokers and recyclers making it easy to locate in case it's ever resold.

• Ensure that it will be unable to connect to any UK mobile network if it's ever reported stolen.

I looked online at returning an order and there was a missing items/damaged tab.

I went through that and at the end it said a replacement would be delivered 2morrow.

I just have to send the box with the missing phone back by the end of the month.

Refreshing to learn, that is if a replacement DOES turn up 2morrow.

Has it. Have u rang Amazon. What did they say?

This is absolute Bullshit.
​You can use a granny phone with big buttons for 10-15 quid if don't need Internet on your phone . Or a tablet if you use Internet only in WiFi range. I use my 4g connection all the time. Even for talking I use voip to call abroad for free and video conference . Three used to let Skype calls using their servers as phone call earlier without going through voip but that has gone away. At work, in train, in car, on holidays 4g makes hell lot of difference. Even shopping on eBay and Amazon is so easy with 4g . Even can use Google maps as navigation with 4G and it works very well in the moving car.

thanks

The BR7 has the better specs & battery for sure (including fast charging), but not a well known brand & dubious about the warranty, etc.

A screen/glass protector usually only protects the front, so a protector case is always preferable (to me anyway), so the back is also protected.

Just had one of these delivered, sort of.

Box had been opened and phone missing.

so ordered one of these last night just before midnight to get the deal, but now been thinking maybe Blackview R7 @ around £132 on Ali Express (+ poss import duty) is there any advice/opions out there specification wise which is better? as i could always cancel. battery is pretty important to me as is speed of use, dont download much in way of video's or music, just use standard aps like FB and maps for getting around, and camera - thanks o and would i need a protector case on a phone if i put the extra glass screen on it

I agree, I've been using it for about 24 hours now. The phone feels slightly faster but it's a very small incremental improvement rather than a big overhaul and they seem to have removed a few of the features that made Marshmallow appealing in the first place.

4G is overrated and I know because I use it. There are very few times at which people need a portable high speed broadband connection on their phones, particularly since most of the big networks block tethering on their lower-cost packages and the western countries still haven't cracked being able to use mobile broadband consistently whilst moving.

I know but that means that although Nexus devices are by far my favourite choice for Android, it just isn't practical for me to buy or use them.

Well I at least sound horrid coherently.

English isn't my mother tongue either and I have a very low tolerance for people who can't be bothered to learn how to use it properly.

Nexus devices have never had card slots, other than the very first one - and that only had 190MB of storage for apps, so the card slot was understandable. Nexus devices have remained pretty consistent and Google have made it fairly clear over the years that they aren't fans of expandable storage

​I was talking about people who don't live in London.

Only bad thing about this phone is no oleophobic coating on the screen which means sticky mess

London seems like a building site at all times.Apartment blocks going up everywhere,selling for ludicrous prices which most people can't afford unless you're a fat cat banker,MP,Tony + Cherie Blair,CEO,footballer.....

their = they're :smiley:

If you want to drive your car into London you have to pay Congestion Charge and then there is the exhorbitant parking charges,as almost all the roads in inner London are now CPZs.
Most people have to use public transport and it works out cheaper than driving as well with contactless daily cap.

I would have preferred a 5inch screen but for the price this beats the moto G hands down.

bought.

This was the one.https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B012W8Y6Y8?pc_redir=T1

Mind if I ask what the compass and notification lights are for? I can obviously guess.. I think the phone will be mainly used for texts , Skype , taking the odd photo , YouTube ( for our toddler) . She's never had a smartphone with touchscreen, the blackberry had push buttons.

Thanks.

It depends what you want it for. The Moto G you are looking at is probably the 1GB/8GB model rather than the 2GB/16GB model. I had a Moto G 2nd Gen and the 1GB RAM was slowing things down and I was running out of space for apps - even though I consider myself to not use many apps. If you are not likely to use it much apart from calls and text with a bit of internet you can get the Moto G 2nd gen for about £60 at Amazon warehouse. It has compass and notification light which the 3rd gen doesn't. Otherwise I would get a 2GB/16GB (at least) phone.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B00NBSZ56C/ref=sr_1_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1468448281&sr=8-2&keywords=moto+G+dual+sim&condition=used

Smaller screen so easier to handle... but only 3G. Cheap as chips though for basic stuff. Camera average. GPS very good.

Just bought the gold one for my daughter. Thanks. Heat

Help. Need a phone for my mum which is easy enough to use as her ancient blackberry is dying. Which one - this one in the listing or this one ?:
Motorola Moto G 3rd Generation LTE UK SIM-Free Smartphone - Black £109 used/good condition from Amazon warehouse?

Notification lights!

Yeah they are great but again we all look at our phone far too much already

NFC chit chat nonsense!!!

Do you guys have bank cards and small wallets? I prefer to use my card of choice... tsb to get cashback on contacless payments ... I dont want to get my phone out for payments?????

I have a lot of must haves for phones but nfc and fingerprint scanners arent on my list

no NFC :disappointed:

Does this have a gyroscope?

Most of them 'tourists' are there to buy up the properties real Londoners can't afford. You then having to then commute for several hours a day. But I suppose having the ability to pay for that privilege by phone makes up for it.

sour because you cannot have them ..........OMG :confused:

​Yes that's why so many tourists from across the world come to visit London. The grapes are sour, just because you cannot have them. :smile:. Anyway I would love to leave my physical wallet behind and go to the pub with my digital wallet with contactless payments on my phone. Still wait for that day.

So not just London then :stuck_out_tongue:

Londons a sh1thole.. overrated smelly b4staards everywhere

" inspired by Spain’s famous Guggenheim museum"

Better on the outside than the inside then ?

You need to work on your tolerance. You sound horrid.

Just ordered the silver. Moto G4 let me know not for NFC which unlikely I will use but more for notification light.

The world needs to know this and I'm the one to tell it.
:neutral_face:

Well I for one am shocked by this revelation...... how dare you sir..... you are a cad and no doubt a bounder.... good day to you :man:

If anything will at this price point, then this will

Yes, one sim is 3g/4g the other is 2g only (calls and texts only). You can swap at any time within settings

Any opinions on the gold colour?

Probably has one possession in the whole World - a sh*tty iPhone...

On all dual sim phones I have used, data is only 'consumed' on the one sim you select. The second sim can't use data, unless you change it in the settings. I suspect it's the same here.

For calls and sms messages, you can either set it up where it automatically uses a certain sim, or you can have it ask you each time.

Does anyone know how much control you have on the duel sims? Can you set one to use no mobile data while the other to continue to do so?

Apple Pay works with any contactless payment terminal so you can use it in almost all well known outlets. I use it coffee shops, the tube home, tescos etc. Contactless limit is £30 per tap but some updated terminals will also any amount with Apple Pay because it is fingerprint verified and supported by all the major banks already. Same I expect will apply to google pay eventually, except Barclays have said they'll develop their own pay app and not support Google pay.

Yes, living anywhere but London means they must be in the middle of nowhere. :confused:

I suppose a great positive from that is they don't have to use a public transport full of idiots.

​Maybe if you use those methods of transport. Not everyone lives in London. Most people have things called cars.

Sorry but don't want to burst your bubble, but you'll be shocked to know, London is not the centre of the universe.

So looking at the description an IPhone and a HTC went to Spain, did the nasty beast with two backs dance and nine months later this was the result :stuck_out_tongue:

​You must be living in middle of nowhere where they don't use contactless payments. In London it is very useful as it works on buses and tube

Just ordered one for my daughter to try as she's been nattering for a 6s plus! This is about 1/4 of price and memory is easily and cheaply upgradeable! We're currently an all iPhone family so let's see if this converts us to the dark side! :wink:.

Thanks for that, been waiting for the OTA update, but followed your advice and updated to Marshmallow earlier. Phone seems smoother scrolling (wasn't not smooth before), some other little nice features . Disappointed to see that the EMUI does not supports SD memory as phone storage as in stock Marshmallow

Nice deal, but it seems to take the design of the iphone and htc and combine them.

Total rubbish? that's total rubbish........I rarely frequent tube stations, I believe the majority of phone owners have no need for NFC.

​It is not just quality, it is the mobile network bands. If your phone only has China India bands, it's only a miniature tablet not a phone. Internet on phones without proper UK 4g bands is very slow.

​Total rubbish. Just stand at a tube station and see how many people pay with their phone. Most shop chains now accept nfc. And problem of losing cards and cancelling them. Nfc is brilliant.

​honor 5c has a 5.2, it has nfc and faster processor but no fingerprint scanner?

What link?

thanks for this

​Agreed. Love my Honor 7. The uk support and Twitter are top notch. Can't say I'm fussed for NFC but sure the Honor 7 2016 will have it. Hope it's a similar price point to the last.

Whereas I've had NFC on my phones for at least 5 years and used it once to bump phones and transfer contact details. First and only time I used it. We each use our phones differently.

I was looking to replace a crappy ZTE Blade S6 work phone, which Amazon kindly refunded last week. Was about to buy the Honor 5X at £169 direct from VMall so thanks OP for saving me £30. I think they are great phones for the money. I got my wife and my dad an Honor 7 each, and my niece has the 5X. Good UK bases customer support too.

Why don't you click the link and see

Was that a prime day deal? If so I'm really gutted right now

What re you talking about!? Just because their not big here in the West doesn't mean their dodgy.

Just ordered one in Silver.

In many ways Windows is the perfect platform for the Chinese vendors because it massively reduces the amount of support that they need to provide. They only really need to keep on top of the occasional driver.

Any votes on best colour?

“Xiaomi founder and chief executive Lei Jun is expected to visit Seoul this week to have a meeting with Samsung Electronics executives as part of a cunning plan to get a components partnership deal signed.”
Link - http://www.fudzilla.com/news/mobile/41114-samsung-meeting-with-xiaomi

A lot of people including myself are wary I think of buying certain phone brands especially if shipped from overseas. Plus with some phones there are still 4G issues with the correct bands for all networks and then there’s the potential warranty issues.
Add all that together and it is holding them back. Buying direct from Amazon as here though is a different ballgame.

I bought a Motorola X Style 32GB from Amazon yesterday for £182 knowing that it will get updates, has a solid warranty and will have a decent resale value. Sometimes it’s cheaper in the long term to do that plus you get a better phone IMO in this case and less risk.

Yep, know what you mean.

But, up untill recently, most China phones were made for the China/India market, so quality etc wasn't upto European expectations. I think that will change once they start making specifically for the Western markets, remember nearly all the phones we do actually like, are made in China anyway! But as I mentioned, prices will rise as well.

It`s like Prime Day without the subscription, AND it lasts longer than 24 hours! Wow, what a super price for a fab handset. :smile:

Fantastic

You may be right but I have to say that I think my experience with Elephone last year has put me off Chinese phones for life.

Support and build quality are the key problems in the Android phone space and the Chinese seem to do particularly poorly in both aspects.

Not really comparable. Neither of those two companies have any sort of patents partnership with Microsoft. Xiaomi did well in China because they offer additional services via apps (with Google services blocked/not allowed) but obviously this set-up won't work outside of China as theres no revenue stream to support their low prices. Microsofts patents will allow them to firstly get upto sped on new tech almost instantly and with little to no additional cost and secondly be able to offer a lot of Microsofts apps/services which should help with the ongoing income stream and give their 'credibility' a boost. Also gives Microsoft a huge instant user base, mostly young Chinese, who will soon all have the full MS package inc Skye pre-instlalled.

People were saying that about the likes of Elephone and Ulefone last summer but one year later, still nobody is taking them seriously.

According to Wikipedia they're number 5 but obviously that includes the vast majority of their business being in China and China is a totally different market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaomi

According to IDC, in October 2014[15] Xiaomi was the third largest smartphone maker in the world, following Samsung and Apple Inc., and followed by Lenovo and LG. Xiaomi became the largest smartphone vendor in China in 2014, having overtaken Samsung, according to an IDC repor

ignore the Grammer nazis

Hmm not sure about that assessment, but it won't be too long before we see a lot more of Xiaomi in Europe after finally completing a patents partnership with Microsoft (some might suggest that could be the end of them :laughing:).

One of the major factors that hold back these China phone companies launching phones over here is the fact they tend to rip ideas from other companies and would generally be exposed to all sorts of law suits in Europe/USA. Can see prices rising though.

Well it depends on how keen you are to move with new tech. I work in an office with a restaurant which has an Apple Pay terminal, seen almost as many people paying with their phones as with cards.

Xiaomi still haven't yet made it out of the ranks of 'dodgy' Chinese phone manufacturers whereas Huawei are a big league and trusted brand.

Yes.

Now let's not jump to conclusions.

Is this much better than a Galaxy S4 16gb?

He isn't here to shop, he's just a great kid who notifies the adults in his life about great deals. Also he speaks 3 languages at such a young age, and is very likely a green belt in taekwondo and could kick your ass.

is this deal only on amazon today?

So, G4 look better, for extra £15 quit.
G4 Plus is £199, not much additional features.

Personally i think redmi note 3 is more superior than honor 5c.
Xaomi redmi note 3 pro 650 snapdragon compare to honor 5x 5.5 . I guess xiaomi has got 4000mah battery
where has honour is just 3000 mah.
also xiomi redmi note 3 pro has 3gb ram where has honor is 2gb.
drawback in xiami camera is poor in low light(though it cann be corrected using xoom app in andior play store.
Price of xiaomi is also in same range.around 140 GBP
Suggestions are most welcome

Not that this is useful to anyone, but I saw the Honor 5x being sold direct by Amazon USA for £90 yesterday.

*the wise man's apple

This tends to be the one that a lot of people opt for atm.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wileyfox-Swift-Dual-SIM-Free-Smartphone/dp/B014UUQUAO/ref=sr_1_1?s=telephone&ie=UTF8&qid=1468415359&sr=1-1&keywords=wileyfox

Any good deals for phones with less than 5 inch screen? z3 compact deal is tempting however xperias are not built to last in my opinion.

Anyone recommend a good budget phone with a smaller screen?

Is there much difference between this and the LG G2? I'm currently using the G2 and happy with it but the lack of microSD slot is annoying me.

Just arrived in dubai and I've never seen so many billboards and posters for huawei. The new phone dual camera phone looks amazing.

OK so a manual installation didn't work but European devices are allowed to opt in to get the update pushed to them immediately anyway.


- Ensure the HiCare app is up to date in the Play Store.
- Run the HiCare app and select 'OS Upgrade Early Adopters'. You will then be added to the list of devices that can download B330 immediately.
- Re-run the Settings app, select the update option and install.

Thanks to XDA-Developers for this.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x/how-to/kiw-l21-marshmallow-update-link-b140-t3409390/page4

Sod it, I'm buying one.....i'll now spend hours deciding on a colour.

Soooooo indecisive.

If amazon reviews are anything to go by then the 'honor" is "better" but it should be it's 30% approx more.
They are both phablets if thats what you want.

So do we think this is worth the extra £40 in comparison with the £99 Vodafone Smart Ultra 6 ?

I don't use NFC and will never use Android pay (Nor many others I suspect).......

Is this better than the P8 Lite then? I might buy one and try and flog the p8lite.

By the time Google Pay hits the 'mainstream' you probably would have moved to a different phone.

Nobody's even really bothering with Apple Pay yet.

I'm just doing a backup now before I install it. I'll report back later this afternoon. :smiley:

An even bigger problem is the lack of NFC. With Android Pay about to go mainstream, what's the point of buying a phone without NFC. I use NFC for all sorts of other things as well combined with Tasker and Trigger, using a few cheapo NFC tags from Fleabay. Shame as the G4 Plus is a fantastic phone in every other area, including an outstanding camera with laser focus.

Nice one mate. Any noticeable improvements in performance?

Actually forcing the update to Marshmallow seems extremely simple. It's just a case of copying the file to the SD card and then running the EMUI updater that's in the Settings menu.

Go back to bed

Apple is a sad mans brand.............

"the Honor 5X is too wide for most people to operate with one hand, an issue someone won't face with the Swift."

He may be pretending to be a shopper when he's really working on his PHD on human interaction on shopping related Web forums. You know what six year olds are like these days.

I would buy a Nexus 5x today if it had an SD slot. 16GB is nothing these days and the 32GB models are too expensive (and even that is a bit lacking space-wise).

I think this phone does have fast charge btw. It charges extremely quickly for me anyway but the battery life is pretty decent.

The 616 is newer, the 808 is higher end processor though.

Nexus has faster 4g and covers more bands which could be handy if hoping to use it abroad. Better wifi too and fast charging. Screen nicer on the Honor on other hand.

Completely agree. Here's hoping the next Nexus devices address both the price point and SD issue.

It looks like you can manually push the update yourself from here as long as you don't mind using the US version. I'm not 100% sure how to install it though.

http://www.hihonor.com/us/support/

I'm not going to hold my breath tbh. Android 6 is about a year old at this point and is due to be replaced very soon. They probably should have just skipped it and gone straight to v7.

It's one of the reasons why I prefer Nexus devices but unfortunately the high costs and lack of SD support outweigh most of the benefits of Nexus these days.

If he is 6 years old then he probably shouldn't be on here or shopping for a mobile in the first place.

I'm having a bad day I read this and thought who would want a phone that's 5inches by 5.5 inches!

It must be coffee time

Looks like Marshmallow is rolling out as we speak:
http://www.hihonor.com/us/blogs/honor-5x-gets-the-marshmallow-update/130547/

English could be his third language or he could be six years old so give him a break.

Got the Wileyfox swift yesterday for-
Total: £124.98
Promotion Applied: -£29.99
Grand Total: £94.99
How would the Honor compare in terms of reliability for duel sim and expandability etc...thanks

You need to work on your English and the answer to your question is no.

I have this phone but its a bit slow tbh and it's clear that it is probably never getting Marshmallow at this point. The build quality is decent enough though and the battery life is fine.

Got it yesterday from the amazon warehouse for £120

This or the UMI Super that was posted a short while ago on here?

I know it's a budget phone, but surely NFC wouldn't have blown the books...

Will still probably end up buying regardless because it's still great value but such a shame.

Tempted but no gyroscope sensor

Has this phone a gorilla glass protection?

1080 x 1920 :smiley:

Whats the screen resolution? I have the P8lite and its crap lol

Darn it, just had to cancel yesterday's warehouse purchase for a 2nd hand one with 20% off. This price makes it a no brainer to go for a new one. Heated OP!

Huawei is the poorman's Apple

Actually the specs state it's upgradable to 256GB!

Seems a good price, cheapest elsewhere I could find was a lie press for £145

Also worth mentioning that the 5X will receive at LEAST Android O, while the Honor probably won't even get N given Honor's record of updating devices (particularly cheap ones).

The camera is much better on the 5X - one of the most solid cameras around IMO (along with the 6P).

The Honor has no NFC, so Android Pay is out of the window.

The Honor has very heavy customisation, so if you're a fan of the 'proper' Android interface (and I use the term loosely) then you might not like the Honor. Personally it's not my cup of tea, and even a new launcher doesn't really change how heavily Honor have tweaked Android. It's probably the reason they're so slow with updates even when they do release them.

How does this compare to the Nexus 5x which is about £20 more?

I see this has an FM radio which I prefer and the Nexus doesn't but apart from that?

The only problem with G4 plus is that it has no notification light. For some reason motorola has disabled it.

​oh I see then g4 plus will do

I really need a phone fairly soon as my old S3 occasionally boot loops......I don't really want to wait months.

​G4 Plus to drop in price, it should soon because similar spec devices are way cheaper

Wait out for what?

Tempted.......also considering G4 plus though........decisions, decisions.

Great phone, had one since Febuary, does everything very well, no complaints here. Android 6.0 available soon

Nice phone, shame it doesn't have the 3 physical Android buttons. But dual sim AND microSD at the same time is a great plus.