It's B-Ware. Also, I bought Medion before...never again. Shortcuts everywhere.

You have to send to Europe for repair,at least that was the case a couple of years ago.

good deal, go buy the cpu and the 960 will set you back this much without the extras

Good spec for the money - heat :smiley:
Medion aren't the best for build quality or customer service but as mentioned, you'd struggle to self-build for this money.

What is B-Ware?

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Not a "K" processor, so no overclocking potential. Still, maybe a reasonable deal for some.

Very good price. Heat.

good deal right now.. but with the very new Nvidia cards coming available over the next week or so the prices of graphics cards like this should drop soon... i.e. the new GTX1060 is cheaper and more powerful than those that came before it.... they've also got an even cheaper 1050 which i'm yet to read about and a all powerful 1080 which looks great but is priced about the same as this whole PC....

A pc with an i5 cpu and gtx 1060 or rx 480 would give you double the performance at roughly the same price.

I bought a cracking pc off ebay, i5 6600, 8gb ddr4, 1 tb hd, corsair 600w psu, windows 10 oem for 380, rx 480 4gb is 200, so for 580 you have double the gaming performance

Typo error i5 6500

good find op, heat added

+548.98

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cXK3tJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cXK3tJ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£177.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£47.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£29.49 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB Mini Video Card (£233.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£15.98 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£56.35 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £603.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-25 18:55 BST+0100

54 quid more for something like this (absolutely no frills on this whatsoever)


It all depends on the person. Do they want to spend more money? Do they want to build it themselves? For someone who wants a prebuilt, they're going to pay more money, for less oomf. But for a prebuilt, it's not bad. I wouldn't hold out for the components to be the greatest though.

Would the i5 6500 your suggesting be better than this amd for £606:

Case : Zalman Z11+ Black Tower Case + 2 x 120mm Blue Led Fans
Power Supply : EVGA 700W Power Supply 80+ Bronze
Motherboard : Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3
CPU : AMD FX 8350 Eight Core CPU (turbo 4.2Ghz)
Hard Drive : 1TB Western Digital Blue Hard Drive (7200Rpm)
Memory : 16gb DDR3 1600mhz Branded Memory
Graphics Card : Geforce GTX 970 4GB (Tripple screen support 3D Surround)
Optical Drive : 24x Dual Layer

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121278114238

It's a good price but you really wanna be putting a decent branded motherboard in a gaming pc

a lot more than £54 more.

you've missed out a few things, i.e. optical drive, wireless LAN, card reader and OS.

Who in the hell uses them anymore? You can get a wireless adapter for another tenner, there you go

Ethernet is perfectly fine. OS is free until the 29th of this month, otherwise, use Linux.

Like I said, no frills. If you need them then sure. I don't know anybody who uses optical discs, or even card readers, but these peripherals are all cheap.

I'd personally go down the intel route, but some people prefer AMD.

I have ordered one of these computers today and I think they have now all sold. With the CPU selling for about £300 and the graphic card for around £150 I know it is a snip. This will be the 4th Medion computer I have bought and I have had very little trouble with any of them one is still in use after 10 years but is slow with age so is being retired.

link not working?

Don't get that. Get the other build. 970 is outdated as **** already and so is the AMD cpu.

In fact, even swap out the GPU for an RX 480

GTX 960 paired with a i7? Great, that's not a waste at all.

Expense CPU + budget GPU does not equal gaming.

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Fine if you are close to a router otherwise you need either WiFi or Powerline Adapters both of which cost.
Really! Only the upgrade is free.
Why bother specifying a GTX 1060 gaming card and then use Linux? It still has very limited gaming support compared to Windows.

A typical HUKD special corner cutting BS build to hit a price point partial build. A C-Ware build to match a B-Ware Medion.

hey man I have been wanting a light gaming rig for a very long time now I know you are clued up on this would you mind if I dropped you a pm?
everyone seems to bash the pre built deals

​Haha jog on.

You cna download Windows for free and then use the likes of OpenOffice and Sumatra PDF.

Also, Ethernet cables come in various lengths. If you read what I said, it's a no frills build. It will destroy this one on all levels and will keep up for a good few years.

Yet again, someone who probably hasn't even built their own computer and sticks with a zoostorm pre-built.

I have answers for you, so go ahead, try and be a smart **** again.

Doesnt say b-ware for nothing! Cold

cnewlol your "amazing self build" was actually over £100 dearer than this to buy from a single retailer, and when you added the cost of windows+SSD, considered the loss of some finer points like the wifi, 1TB of HDD space etc etc and whilst the cpu was newer it was certainly not (overall) more powerful than this one, it could maybe keep up with it in a few older games but newer programs even games are making use of the extra features on i7s now.
OK the 1060 is a superior card but it is still the midrange card of this generation and may drop rapidly in price as it's current "fashion popularity" wears out, it's not the wisest of buys at the moment.

PS using illegal copies of an OS which contacts Microsofts servers several times a day is not the brightest of moves, bit like stealing a mobile phone and using it to report to your probation officer :smile:

Bit like stealing a phone and using it to report to your probation officer ":smile:". No its not ":smile:"
It's more like using something that doesn't enforce that you even have a licence. It's like using winrar passed 30 days all it does is add a watermark to the corner of your screen if you don't have a key.

Anyway this is a B-Ware **** pre built with a bad choice of parts.

The newer i5 will easily match this in GAMING <<<<

Why would you buy everything from one store when you can save money by shopping around? You really are a **** **** aren't you?

http://videocardz.com/62122/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-official-performance-leaked
This is the only set of benchmarks I could find which directly compared the 960 to the 1060, but its literally 60 to even 100% faster.

I'm sure thats worth the little more you pay.

​I honestly think people read what they want and nothing else.

What I posted was no frills. Do people not understand that?

If you think you need an i7 for gaming, then more fool you. The newer games you speak of? A handful at best.

I never said download illegally? If you download it from the website and don't buy a license then you're not doing anything illegal, but of course you're cherry picking what you want to make an example of.

This summarises the sort of fanatascism that really baffles me, calling a total stranger offensive swearwords, over what?
yes i have a different opinion from you, but i have earned that opinion, having worked in IT for nearly 30 years from the days where it cost over a £100 to add a "cheap" ethernet card to a PC
But at the end of it all you guys try to go to extraordinary lengths to justify why people should spend a lot more money for something they will not see any benefit from and may end up in one the thousand "worse off" scenarios i have seen over the years.

you are quite wrong in many aspects there, as a professional in IT (if you are ) you would have had the responsibility for checking out (thoroughly) various related aspects such as Law, the law in this country allows various contracts to be formed and to form a contract but adhere to it only as you please is an "illegal" act whether you think it is or not.
and yes you do not "need" an i7 for gaming, just as you do not "need" a GTX1060 yet you seem to make the biggest issue over that.

I <3 PC rig threads on this site! No one agrees with each other. The problem is that I see PC's as unique as a signature. There are several people with very similar signatures but few if any are exactly the same. The same goes for buying a PC or building a PC. Every user is slightly different. not everyone wants to build their own. Not everyone wants to game on max settings 4K. Unless you are very well off you choose where to save money and where to spend. I think the best thing to do is vote on if the price is good or not (like for like) not prebuilt vs self build. Not if you swapped X y and z but just like for like and give people advice on what it is realistically like to do. So this PC seems a good deal considering prebuilt. The support I had off medion years and years ago was second to none. They sent an engineer to my house to replace a graphics card (this was a good 15 years ago!). Since I have built my own PC's several times and it's not hard. I would recommend to anyone to build their own as you can personalise it to your needs. This rig will not play new games 1080p on max settings so if that's what you want I'm sorry you will need to spend more.

@maddogb
You are stuck 30 years in the past.

The reason I swore at you is because your stupidity frustrates me. 30 years my ass.

I love how you pick an insult and use it in favour for your own opinion but totally ignore anything else.

The reason you don't need an i7 for gaming is because it only gives you a couple fps over an i5 whereas a 1060 will give you 60%+ better gaming performance. If you call <£60 for 60%+ more performance a bad buy or "a lot more money for no benefit" you truly deserve all the insults you'll get.

Not to mention, you can get windows licences for £20.
Also forgot to mention that the "B-Ware" prebuilt here probably has a trash unbranded PSU also.

You also attempted to make the point that the 1060 will be outdated in a couple months. The build with the 1060 has a CPU that is a year younger than the i7 in OP and a graphics card which is 2 years younger.

Can you ladies take it to private messaging

No because this argument is helpful to the people reading this thread.

Can anyone that finds these ladies at dawn comments 'helpful' make themselves known please

​well it may be an argument but it's still informative<

The silence from everyone else is deafening.