You seem to be suggesting that eating a single choc bar or practically any carbohydrate will increase the risk of t2 diabetes as a result of increased insulin levels. If this were the case we'd probably all have t2 diabetes by now. :smiley: However, current evidence suggests a direct link between excessive sugar intake and type 2 diabetes is tenuous and I've not yet heard of a direct link between excess carbs and t2 diabetes.
It's also more complicated than simply suggesting t2 is the result of raised insulin levels from carbs. For example protein raises insulin levels, sometimes almost as well as carbs, and insulin has several other regulatory functions such as inhibiting glucose production by the liver.
The single biggest risk factor for T2 diabetes is being overweight which is a result of excessive calorie intake from all food sources including those high in fat and/or sugar. I could eat a zero carb diet but if I eat 5000 kcal of protein and fat every day I will gain weight and I will significantly raise my risk of diabetes.
Anything can and should be enjoyed in moderation. :smiley:
937666 to FirePhantom
17 Jul 163#9
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akexuk
17 Jul 16#24
You seem to be suggesting that smoking a single cigarette or practically smoking any tobacco will increase the risk of lung cancer as a result of cancerogenic agents in the lungs. If this were the case we'd probably all have lung cancer by now. :smiley: However, current evidence suggests a direct link between excessive smoke intake and lung cancer is tenuous and I've not yet heard of a direct link between excess smoke and lung cancer.
It's also more complicated than simply suggesting lung cancer is the result of smoking. For example car pollution also inlames the lung membranes, sometimes as much as smoking.
The single biggest risk factor for lung cancer is pipe smoking which is a result of excessive pipe usage with all kinds of herbs including those low in nicotine content. I could smoke no cigarettes but if I smoke 20 full pipes every day I will accumulate tar in my lungs and I will significantly raise my risk of lung cancer.
Anything can and should be enjoyed in moderation. :smiley:
Philip Morris, 1972
Monkeybumcheeks
17 Jul 161#23
Let's get a good deal on a hotel room :man:
......on second thoughts maybe not!
marky mark
17 Jul 161#22
Shall we bury the hatchet? Where would you like me to bury it? :confused:
Monkeybumcheeks
17 Jul 161#21
Jesus, I laughed hard at that.....fair play :laughing:
Monkeybumcheeks
17 Jul 16#19
They'll be giving them away with Cornflakes soon.....win win!!
marky mark to Monkeybumcheeks
17 Jul 161#20
And Mexican pizza ovens :laughing:
Belf
17 Jul 16#18
Is this online only? Local store only had the 16 for £2 offer
zajczex
17 Jul 16#17
They had only 16x2 fingers at my Morrisons for 2 pounds but Im glad because I ate all of them within 4 hours
juggler1
17 Jul 161#14
Wow, thought I had deja vu, and this had already been posted, but that was only 16 bars! Bargain!
marky mark to juggler1
17 Jul 16#16
I know, this really is a bargain! :innocent:
themachman
17 Jul 162#15
Love 2 finger Kit Kats.:smiley:
Them 4 finger ones are far too much,like a 3 course meal :wink:
Hersheymad
17 Jul 162#13
Well said, diabetes is a basic result of how "sticky" our cells become in the blood.........too sticky,,,,, the higher the blood sugar reading. basically
Hersheymad
17 Jul 161#12
With my shopping which is booked for tomorrow with home delivery mmmmm
zajczex
17 Jul 162#11
I'm ectomorfic skeletor so I will just go ahead and buy few of those and eat them in 2 or 3 days not giving a **** about diabetes. Cheets.
yrreb88
17 Jul 164#10
You seem to be suggesting that eating a single choc bar or practically any carbohydrate will increase the risk of t2 diabetes as a result of increased insulin levels. If this were the case we'd probably all have t2 diabetes by now. :smiley: However, current evidence suggests a direct link between excessive sugar intake and type 2 diabetes is tenuous and I've not yet heard of a direct link between excess carbs and t2 diabetes.
It's also more complicated than simply suggesting t2 is the result of raised insulin levels from carbs. For example protein raises insulin levels, sometimes almost as well as carbs, and insulin has several other regulatory functions such as inhibiting glucose production by the liver.
The single biggest risk factor for T2 diabetes is being overweight which is a result of excessive calorie intake from all food sources including those high in fat and/or sugar. I could eat a zero carb diet but if I eat 5000 kcal of protein and fat every day I will gain weight and I will significantly raise my risk of diabetes.
Anything can and should be enjoyed in moderation. :smiley:
FirePhantom
16 Jul 162#1
Develop diabetes, have a Kit Kat™.
fishmaster to FirePhantom
16 Jul 161#6
Please provide double blind studies that indicate Kit Kats specifically are implicated in diabetes. If you can I'll buy you a hundred boxes of these, although you forfeit your health due to irony naturally :smiley:
937666 to FirePhantom
17 Jul 163#9
FirePhantom
16 Jul 162#8
It would be ridiculous to do a study determine whether every individual product has a causal effect on any disease, but what is known is that consumption of simple carbohydrates increases risk of developing tolerance to insulin — the hormone released by the pancreas when glucose is present in blood serum — i.e., type-two diabetes. As almost all carbohydrates are almost all metabolised into glucose, products like Kit Kats — sugary milk-chocolate-coated wafers — will obviously cause a spike in blood glucose, hence a release of extra insulin, and then hence an increased cumulative risk of insulin tolerance.
That is the broad point I am making; it has nothing to do with Kit Kats in particular.
But please, go ahead and delude yourself into thinking these kinds of products are all fine and dandy and throw up ridiculous arguments from specific silence.
Hersheymad
16 Jul 162#2
Ordered thank you will enjoy those
Coffee100 to Hersheymad
16 Jul 161#7
How much is delivery?
shabbird
16 Jul 165#5
ladladlad
16 Jul 162#3
Wow, I saw the deal for 16 kit kat's but this is absolutely fantastic. I was going to head to asda, but now I'm heading to Morrisons, heat added OP
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It's also more complicated than simply suggesting t2 is the result of raised insulin levels from carbs. For example protein raises insulin levels, sometimes almost as well as carbs, and insulin has several other regulatory functions such as inhibiting glucose production by the liver.
The single biggest risk factor for T2 diabetes is being overweight which is a result of excessive calorie intake from all food sources including those high in fat and/or sugar. I could eat a zero carb diet but if I eat 5000 kcal of protein and fat every day I will gain weight and I will significantly raise my risk of diabetes.
Anything can and should be enjoyed in moderation. :smiley:
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It's also more complicated than simply suggesting lung cancer is the result of smoking. For example car pollution also inlames the lung membranes, sometimes as much as smoking.
The single biggest risk factor for lung cancer is pipe smoking which is a result of excessive pipe usage with all kinds of herbs including those low in nicotine content. I could smoke no cigarettes but if I smoke 20 full pipes every day I will accumulate tar in my lungs and I will significantly raise my risk of lung cancer.
Anything can and should be enjoyed in moderation. :smiley:
Philip Morris, 1972
......on second thoughts maybe not!
Them 4 finger ones are far too much,like a 3 course meal :wink:
It's also more complicated than simply suggesting t2 is the result of raised insulin levels from carbs. For example protein raises insulin levels, sometimes almost as well as carbs, and insulin has several other regulatory functions such as inhibiting glucose production by the liver.
The single biggest risk factor for T2 diabetes is being overweight which is a result of excessive calorie intake from all food sources including those high in fat and/or sugar. I could eat a zero carb diet but if I eat 5000 kcal of protein and fat every day I will gain weight and I will significantly raise my risk of diabetes.
Anything can and should be enjoyed in moderation. :smiley:
That is the broad point I am making; it has nothing to do with Kit Kats in particular.
But please, go ahead and delude yourself into thinking these kinds of products are all fine and dandy and throw up ridiculous arguments from specific silence.