If you can adjust the sensitivity then maybe, but you'll be vulnerable to cat burglars.
andyg1978
3 Jun 163#36
I bought one after being burgled two years ago. It was mainly as a deterrent.
I was burgled again three months ago, broke in through a window I did not have a sensor on (it does now!). They tripped the PIR sensor and the device called me alerting me whilst sounding the alarm. The alarm sacred the thieves off as my neighbours, who were alerted by the alarm, saw them running away. My system now has 10 sensors on it rather than the original 4 - and I was able to fit them myself.
So it DOES work. I lost nothing in that burglary! Im not sure what the previous comments are referring to but this is an easy to install alarm that can be scaled up. The sensors are all tamper proof and I can state they this function works week as I accidentally set it off the other week but not fixing the sensors on securely enough after getting some work done to my windows.
In addition to this, one of my original PIR sensors caused two false alarms. I contacted Yale who sent me a replacement out free of charge - without requiring the faulty unit be returned first.
This might not be a fully monitored solution that send Group 4 round to check on your house after an activation but the difference in price between the two is vast. This is most certainly a decent system for what it does.
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cybergibbons
29 Jun 16#66
I've just published a blog post on why I don't like these alarms.
The short of it - easy to jam, easy to replay disarm signals, you can sniff the PIN over-the-air if you use a remote keypad, you can brute-force the PIN as well. I reported these issues to Yale 4 years ago.
sul
5 Jun 16#65
you need to make a debatable argument as to why you think this unit is rubbish
paulj48
4 Jun 16#64
That obviously depends on your ability although all alarms are basically wired the same regardless of make, the difficult part will be the programming.
I installed my own Premier Elite and Texecom support is great as they'll speak to the end user, some manufacturers will only speak to registered installers e.g Honeywell and Pyronix.
paul69_
4 Jun 16#63
Manufacture - it will be shame to see proper companies go out of business - if you want pure trash to protect your house why not search for things like the apple alarm, android alarm or hive solution.
I'm just making people aware they get what they pay for.
This systems are either in graded or grade 1.
The price difference is about £400 for a proper alarm, that difference is worth every penny.
edwardw121
3 Jun 16#62
Easy for a diy install? Torn between this and pyronix!
paulj48
3 Jun 161#61
Texecom Premier Elite
s_bizzle1981
3 Jun 16#60
have one also. very good system easy install, have recommended to family many times. heat!
Wongduk
3 Jun 16#59
oh i tried on sony z3 compact, did not respond to my touch screen. ill give it another go.
thanks for letting me know it works.
mario999
3 Jun 16#58
Anyone know of a system that I could arm/disarm with my phone, maybe has some smart features?
jonnithomas
3 Jun 16#57
I would have to cut my dog in half :smiley:
Rory Joe
3 Jun 161#56
I didn't need to guess or hope over this one either and I didn't need grading for that.
We live in an age where we can find out hundreds and hundreds reviews and opinions online very easily.
paulj48
3 Jun 16#55
That's fine and if your you don't care that your system isn't graded at the end of the day then that's up to you.
Purchasing a EN50131 system at least gives the user an indication that the system will follow and adhere to a set of industry standards if installed correctly, no need to guess or hope a system is going to be good and reliable.
Rory Joe
3 Jun 16#54
I stand corrected, I had no idea nor care what grade it was before viewing this thread so I Googled it, obviously got fed misinformation.
TBH doesn't really matter to me, as all the other points in my original comment still stand. It is an exceptionally good, reliable alarm system.
I've seen some wired perform appallingly in comparison.
amyp88
3 Jun 162#53
Will this be okay for my cat?
iggy450
3 Jun 16#52
I have the model above this and I can honestly say these alarms are fantastic.
Took me about 30 minutes to install. Setup was about 20 minutes and it calls my phone should it go off. That being said I have had no false alarms, other than the one I did when I was testing.
I dont have the pet sensors however I accidentally locked the cat in the living room and he was in there for around 10 hours (I felt really bad) however the alarm never went off. I thought that I had a duff sensor so I tested it and it spotted me no problems so I can't argue.
If I'd have seen this at this price I'd grab it. I paid £200 for mine but I panic bought as I had just been burgled the day before.
paulj48
3 Jun 16#51
Sorry but that alarm does not comply with EN50131 Grade 2, only the Yale 'Professional' range does, the EF series does not.
It rings out when the alarm goes off and can be activated and deactivated remotely by phone.
I've had it 18 months and whilst some my have their opinions on wireless systems, it has been absolutely stellar. Zero false positives (I do test the sensors, they do work!) and I love being able to set/unset by keyfob. Very easy to install too.
It's an 868mhz grade 2 wireless alarm, it's been perfectly reliable, and it's under £200. There might be better alarms out there, but it does everything I need it to.
hcc27
3 Jun 16#49
Sure. In a one way system, the PIR fires an alert to the control unit when it's activated, but the control unit has no means of checking if the PIR is always active or not i.e. monitor the status of its sensors. In a 2 way system, the control unit monitors the status of all it's sensors continuously so will alert you to a sensor issue if there's one.
One-way = the alarm goes off in the premises that is alarmed
Two-way = when the alarm goes off, you are notified
Dragon32
3 Jun 161#47
It works ok with my Samsung Galaxy S5.
I've turned it on and off a few times remotely and also checked the status of it as well through my phone.
Would be nice if it gave voice instructions when you dialled it though (that's the only thing that would have been really handy).
Dragon32
3 Jun 16#46
Like I said they are a waste of money - they don't go solely on the weight as confirmed with Yale after I spent a load of money and time on replacing my existing PIR'S for pet friendly ones. :disappointed:
Wongduk
3 Jun 16#45
does anyone know how it works now that touchscreen smart phones dont seem to work with the remote dial into alarm function. worked on my old blackberry bold (physical keys) , i guess because it was analogue and now new androids use digital tones? has anyone else experienced this issue
Dragon32
3 Jun 16#44
They have a feature against hacking them, but not sure how good this is, but still its a deterrent against your normal burglar.
Dragon32
3 Jun 16#43
Also forgot to mention that especially cats - they like to climb so would set off these PIR's anywhere even when they are high up.
Dragon32
3 Jun 16#42
I love the alarm, but would give it a miss for pets.
The only reason we got another cat was that I found you could get pet friendly PIR sensors for this alarm.
I shelled out a load of money replacing all my PIR's for pet friendly ones to find even though Yale state it goes on weight of the animal it's actually the height after finding if they were too low (around 1.5m) they got triggered by the cat on the floor and if they were higher (around 2m) I tested it and you could crawl under the sensors - totally useless and ended up just having door sensors and a PIR in the living room which we have to make sure the cat is not in.
I've read that a lot of pet friendly sensors work this way though (even on the more expensive hard wired ones).
It's a great alarm apart from that though.
AshDaBash
3 Jun 16#41
Bought this from Screwfix for £159.99 around 6 months ago, recommended by a friend. Pretty sure it's been on offer for £129.99 a couple of times since, but still giving heat for the price.
In terms of the system, it's very easy to fit and configure. No issues getting sensors to register with the base and everything seems to be working fine so far.
It's definitely loud. Accidently set the system off by opening a window before disarming the system. Certainly woke me up!
You'll definitely want to buy a few more sensors for your windows (model HSA6010). These are often on offer at 3 for £50 at Screwfix. So keep this in mind as this could easily cost you £100+ depending on your needs.
Overall it seems to be a decent entry level alarm.
Palwan
3 Jun 16#40
Can you please briefly explain how two way wireless works?
5Rivers79
3 Jun 16#39
Can you recommend a decent wired system that will also notify my phone if an alarm goes off? Looking for a decent and reliable system that doesn't cost too much. Thanks.
BeerGoggles
3 Jun 16#38
Had mine for 2.5 years, I ended up buying an additional sensor as two wasn't enough. A key fob can be used to switch the alarm off once you walk through the door which is handy if the panel is a long way from the front door. Each fob and sensor needs to be paired with this device one at a time and each is given a unique security code so no one can just buy a fob and use to disable alarm. I doubt it would be easy to hack.
It was easy to set up as it comes with a DVD with video instructions. I need to replace sensor batteries about every 14 months but it will notify you when a sensor needs replacement batteries. I now need to replace my main box batteries after 2.6 years but it has never been activated except during test cycles. You can set it up to call you to tell you it was activated assuming you can connect the main panel to a phone jack (main panel needs a permanent connection to a power socket), so I also set up a web cam for about £30 and if it every goes and it rings me I will connect to my web cam to verify if someone is in the house, and if need be call the police (you can also switch off the alarm remotely by calling you own home and entering the witch off code using the phone dial pad.. The advantage over wired is that in a power cut the alarm is still active so in many senses this could be safer than a wired alarm imo. Overall a brilliant no fuss concept.
andyg1978
3 Jun 161#37
Are you perhaps a security installer ...........................
andyg1978
3 Jun 163#36
I bought one after being burgled two years ago. It was mainly as a deterrent.
I was burgled again three months ago, broke in through a window I did not have a sensor on (it does now!). They tripped the PIR sensor and the device called me alerting me whilst sounding the alarm. The alarm sacred the thieves off as my neighbours, who were alerted by the alarm, saw them running away. My system now has 10 sensors on it rather than the original 4 - and I was able to fit them myself.
So it DOES work. I lost nothing in that burglary! Im not sure what the previous comments are referring to but this is an easy to install alarm that can be scaled up. The sensors are all tamper proof and I can state they this function works week as I accidentally set it off the other week but not fixing the sensors on securely enough after getting some work done to my windows.
In addition to this, one of my original PIR sensors caused two false alarms. I contacted Yale who sent me a replacement out free of charge - without requiring the faulty unit be returned first.
This might not be a fully monitored solution that send Group 4 round to check on your house after an activation but the difference in price between the two is vast. This is most certainly a decent system for what it does.
kreig
3 Jun 16#35
OK as a cheap deterrant. Useless as an actual security device. Very nearly bought one last time a deal came up but when with a local security installer, have a 5 minute chat with one and youll see why you dont want it.
paul69_
3 Jun 16#34
Utter ****, for real security products get in touch with a security installer - this is like getting a £70 rip off iPhone. It can still make calls and text but plays up, is slow etc.
You are talking about your personal safety of yourself and family! Don't be stupid people!
aleem
3 Jun 161#33
Only any use if it has GSM back-up. Any 'decent' burglar will cut off the broadband/internet/telephone lines before entering.
Old skool (wires) is still the best :smirk:
hcc27
3 Jun 16#32
This is a good price for a wireless alarm but do remember it's one way wireless. I got the Pyronix Enforcer in the end as it's two-way wireless but that's double the price. If you can afford the extra I'd go for a two way wireless but this is certainly better than having no alarm at all.
Good price, heated.
rob5110
3 Jun 16#31
Do you know where they are £99? I was looking on Amazon and they are around £160.
Thanks
bma1445
3 Jun 161#30
We have an alarm (not a yale, a Scantronic), which phones me (via GSM) the second an alarm goes off. I can then go onto my phone, check the CCTV, and call the police. Within 1 minute of my alarm going off, I can be on the phone to the police even if I'm nowhere in the area.
We had this kit at our old house, and while it's good, it's nowhere near as good as some of the pro kit out there. If you're technically minded, and don't mind fiddling for a day/running wires, you could easily pick up a 9651 unit for this price.
yuha_2000
3 Jun 16#29
very "old skool" now look for a smart web cam with face recognition linked to a bell and a smart phone app
ganish1982
3 Jun 16#28
Have one, bought for £160 two years back from screwfix, easy to install, works a treat. No false alarms.
mines a grey logo one.
says on discribtion what models suits who's. .
I had bought the yellow logo from screwfix, but they happily gave a refund
snoopy18
3 Jun 161#25
Didn't understand that
paulj48
3 Jun 161#24
2 way wireless: control panel 'talks' to the detector and the detector 'talks' back.
1 way wireless: detector talks to the panel only so the panel can still be set even though a detector may be missing/broken etc.
what does two way wireless mean in practice? and grade 2 means?
thanks
prash_2k
3 Jun 16#22
I don't get it:
- you have a alarm which will go off when someone's already in the house!
- deterrent I get it. But most house burglaries are planned so no use there.
- you still have no idea who burgled your house to recover items.
Just by 2 canaries and u get the same alarm feature but also HD VIDEO
£99 each.
Still hot for a home alarm system cheapest I've seen. But just think there are better things on the market for around the same price.
paulj48
3 Jun 161#21
This system is wireless only, if your spending good money to refurb a place then don't skimp to save a few quid on a 'cheap DIY' alarm. Get a decent Grade 2 wired alarm, they're not actually that expensive and if you must have wireless again get a Grade 2 that will also be 2 way wireless communication although a decent wireless alarm are not that cheap.
liamwba1
3 Jun 16#20
Which fob did you go for, I wasn't sure which was the correct one for this model?
EN1GMA
3 Jun 16#19
do you know how much for more sensors?
liamwba1
3 Jun 16#18
I can vouch for this alarm, I purchased it as soon as I moved into my new house last year. I installed it in next to no time with limited DIY experience. The system is fairly configurable and the addition of the phone out feature make this a no brainer.
tomwenn
3 Jun 16#17
2
EN1GMA
3 Jun 16#16
is this wireless only or do you have the option to go wired or wireless? refurbing a place too and want to replace the alarm system so could be good timing.
cbatten
3 Jun 16#15
pet friendly pir sensors can be purchased, which ignore pets below 26kg
I sold this to a fitter last week for £105, he was gutted to have missed out on the last deal these guys had on this. His customer wanted a cheap reliable unit, and this is what he went for. His opinion of it was high.
EN1GMA
3 Jun 16#13
so how many of those sensors do you get for the rooms?
They can easily be effected by interference either intentionally or unintentionally so much so that the manufacturer recommends in the instructions to turn the 'jamming' detection function off. Also as these are 1 way wireless rather than 2 way this makes the above even more important when deciding what to choose.
If you are refurbing a place then run wires, no brainer really.
aatrzaska
3 Jun 16#7
Does anyone know if it will work with cats at home ? I have 3 cats and wouldn't want to get false alarms.
joedredd to aatrzaska
3 Jun 168#9
If you can adjust the sensitivity then maybe, but you'll be vulnerable to cat burglars.
5Rivers79
3 Jun 16#8
I've read in many places that these are very easy to hack..is that right? I'm currently refurbing a property so looking for a decent alarm system whether that be wireless or wired.
richard47
3 Jun 161#6
I have on too. Easy to install. Took about 2hour to fit everything. I would get extra fobs as the wireless keypad is abit naff. I use it for emergency in a draw, hidden away.
My work moaned at me and said it would be crap, but so far after over a 1 year I have had to change the batteries in 1 sensor. The telephone dial out works well. For the price you won't get better.
The only thing I would say if you are going all out they now do one with fire sensors and cctv built in...
So you get pictures sent to you if the alarm goes off...
moostang
3 Jun 16#1
has anyone got a personal review of these alarms ?
sofiasar to moostang
3 Jun 161#5
really good. no false alarms, you can add a key Fob and switch it in/ off just like a car fob.
homebase sold the fobs £15 on sale so it's nice to look around.
screwfix fobs are dear, plus twice I bought the wrong models
CompositeGuru74
3 Jun 16#4
I bought one 6 months ago. I also bought the option remote key fobs too. System works really well and very easy to fit.
Lawlost
3 Jun 161#3
I've had one for the last 9 years rarely get false positives, really good alarm system. Easy to install. Only now is it beginning to play up.... I'm going to replace it with this model.
Palwan
3 Jun 16#2
I like to know this as well, anyone who got this and how effective they are?
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I was burgled again three months ago, broke in through a window I did not have a sensor on (it does now!). They tripped the PIR sensor and the device called me alerting me whilst sounding the alarm. The alarm sacred the thieves off as my neighbours, who were alerted by the alarm, saw them running away. My system now has 10 sensors on it rather than the original 4 - and I was able to fit them myself.
So it DOES work. I lost nothing in that burglary! Im not sure what the previous comments are referring to but this is an easy to install alarm that can be scaled up. The sensors are all tamper proof and I can state they this function works week as I accidentally set it off the other week but not fixing the sensors on securely enough after getting some work done to my windows.
In addition to this, one of my original PIR sensors caused two false alarms. I contacted Yale who sent me a replacement out free of charge - without requiring the faulty unit be returned first.
This might not be a fully monitored solution that send Group 4 round to check on your house after an activation but the difference in price between the two is vast. This is most certainly a decent system for what it does.
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https://www.pentestpartners.com/blog/alarm-systems-alarmingly-insecure-oh-the-irony/
The short of it - easy to jam, easy to replay disarm signals, you can sniff the PIN over-the-air if you use a remote keypad, you can brute-force the PIN as well. I reported these issues to Yale 4 years ago.
I installed my own Premier Elite and Texecom support is great as they'll speak to the end user, some manufacturers will only speak to registered installers e.g Honeywell and Pyronix.
I'm just making people aware they get what they pay for.
This systems are either in graded or grade 1.
The price difference is about £400 for a proper alarm, that difference is worth every penny.
thanks for letting me know it works.
We live in an age where we can find out hundreds and hundreds reviews and opinions online very easily.
Purchasing a EN50131 system at least gives the user an indication that the system will follow and adhere to a set of industry standards if installed correctly, no need to guess or hope a system is going to be good and reliable.
TBH doesn't really matter to me, as all the other points in my original comment still stand. It is an exceptionally good, reliable alarm system.
I've seen some wired perform appallingly in comparison.
Took me about 30 minutes to install. Setup was about 20 minutes and it calls my phone should it go off. That being said I have had no false alarms, other than the one I did when I was testing.
I dont have the pet sensors however I accidentally locked the cat in the living room and he was in there for around 10 hours (I felt really bad) however the alarm never went off. I thought that I had a duff sensor so I tested it and it spotted me no problems so I can't argue.
If I'd have seen this at this price I'd grab it. I paid £200 for mine but I panic bought as I had just been burgled the day before.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/yale-easy-fit-telecommunicating-wireless-alarm-kit/42727
It rings out when the alarm goes off and can be activated and deactivated remotely by phone.
I've had it 18 months and whilst some my have their opinions on wireless systems, it has been absolutely stellar. Zero false positives (I do test the sensors, they do work!) and I love being able to set/unset by keyfob. Very easy to install too.
It's an 868mhz grade 2 wireless alarm, it's been perfectly reliable, and it's under £200. There might be better alarms out there, but it does everything I need it to.
Some more information here:
http://www.securityinfowatch.com/article/10523907/two-way-versus-one-way
Two-way = when the alarm goes off, you are notified
I've turned it on and off a few times remotely and also checked the status of it as well through my phone.
Would be nice if it gave voice instructions when you dialled it though (that's the only thing that would have been really handy).
The only reason we got another cat was that I found you could get pet friendly PIR sensors for this alarm.
I shelled out a load of money replacing all my PIR's for pet friendly ones to find even though Yale state it goes on weight of the animal it's actually the height after finding if they were too low (around 1.5m) they got triggered by the cat on the floor and if they were higher (around 2m) I tested it and you could crawl under the sensors - totally useless and ended up just having door sensors and a PIR in the living room which we have to make sure the cat is not in.
I've read that a lot of pet friendly sensors work this way though (even on the more expensive hard wired ones).
It's a great alarm apart from that though.
In terms of the system, it's very easy to fit and configure. No issues getting sensors to register with the base and everything seems to be working fine so far.
It's definitely loud. Accidently set the system off by opening a window before disarming the system. Certainly woke me up!
You'll definitely want to buy a few more sensors for your windows (model HSA6010). These are often on offer at 3 for £50 at Screwfix. So keep this in mind as this could easily cost you £100+ depending on your needs.
Overall it seems to be a decent entry level alarm.
It was easy to set up as it comes with a DVD with video instructions. I need to replace sensor batteries about every 14 months but it will notify you when a sensor needs replacement batteries. I now need to replace my main box batteries after 2.6 years but it has never been activated except during test cycles. You can set it up to call you to tell you it was activated assuming you can connect the main panel to a phone jack (main panel needs a permanent connection to a power socket), so I also set up a web cam for about £30 and if it every goes and it rings me I will connect to my web cam to verify if someone is in the house, and if need be call the police (you can also switch off the alarm remotely by calling you own home and entering the witch off code using the phone dial pad.. The advantage over wired is that in a power cut the alarm is still active so in many senses this could be safer than a wired alarm imo. Overall a brilliant no fuss concept.
I was burgled again three months ago, broke in through a window I did not have a sensor on (it does now!). They tripped the PIR sensor and the device called me alerting me whilst sounding the alarm. The alarm sacred the thieves off as my neighbours, who were alerted by the alarm, saw them running away. My system now has 10 sensors on it rather than the original 4 - and I was able to fit them myself.
So it DOES work. I lost nothing in that burglary! Im not sure what the previous comments are referring to but this is an easy to install alarm that can be scaled up. The sensors are all tamper proof and I can state they this function works week as I accidentally set it off the other week but not fixing the sensors on securely enough after getting some work done to my windows.
In addition to this, one of my original PIR sensors caused two false alarms. I contacted Yale who sent me a replacement out free of charge - without requiring the faulty unit be returned first.
This might not be a fully monitored solution that send Group 4 round to check on your house after an activation but the difference in price between the two is vast. This is most certainly a decent system for what it does.
You are talking about your personal safety of yourself and family! Don't be stupid people!
Old skool (wires) is still the best :smirk:
Good price, heated.
Thanks
We had this kit at our old house, and while it's good, it's nowhere near as good as some of the pro kit out there. If you're technically minded, and don't mind fiddling for a day/running wires, you could easily pick up a 9651 unit for this price.
https://www.alertelectrical.com/scantronic-9448eur95-burglar-alarm-kit.html
says on discribtion what models suits who's. .
I had bought the yellow logo from screwfix, but they happily gave a refund
1 way wireless: detector talks to the panel only so the panel can still be set even though a detector may be missing/broken etc.
For grading read this, https://ssaib.org/page/risk-assessment-and-grading-of-intruder-alarm-systems/.
thanks
- you have a alarm which will go off when someone's already in the house!
- deterrent I get it. But most house burglaries are planned so no use there.
- you still have no idea who burgled your house to recover items.
Just by 2 canaries and u get the same alarm feature but also HD VIDEO
£99 each.
Still hot for a home alarm system cheapest I've seen. But just think there are better things on the market for around the same price.
http://www.easyflip.co.uk/CPC_Digital_Catalogue/?page=2156
If you are refurbing a place then run wires, no brainer really.
My work moaned at me and said it would be crap, but so far after over a 1 year I have had to change the batteries in 1 sensor. The telephone dial out works well. For the price you won't get better.
The only thing I would say if you are going all out they now do one with fire sensors and cctv built in...
So you get pictures sent to you if the alarm goes off...
homebase sold the fobs £15 on sale so it's nice to look around.
screwfix fobs are dear, plus twice I bought the wrong models