Also worth noting, the unidays 10% off works on this. So the 500gb is £225 and the 1TB is £270

Oh, but there was no sarcasm. It's factual.

We've had the CUH-1200s, then we've had "wait for E3". E3 has been and gone and we're advised to wait until the backend of 2018 for Scorpio.

We could of course just nip it in the bud and never buy an Xbox One, ever.

How to make yourself look like an internet idiot in one easy step. :smirk:

Just ordered the 2tb, cracking price for a UHD blu-ray player.

Also worth noting, the unidays 10% off works on this. So the 500gb is £225 and the 1TB is £270

Release date is end of December? Is a pre-order worth bothering with..?! Looks pretty cool though.

Surprised it isn't £300.

The release date should be August. Hanging on for the 2th version.

Scorpio

Any idea if its compatible with the Kinect 2.0?

Will keep my launch console its in good nic and works well and will buy the Scorpio next year, and get the PS4K this year.

MVC50 10% discount code

2TB is out August and 500GB/1TB will follow apparently?

Brave you are :wink:

save your cash add £50 to it every month buy yourself scorpio instead next year

Actually very good price for 4K movie fans. I believe this plays 4K blu-ray movies. At £250 I think that makes it the cheapest 4K Blu-ray player.

​Yeah, 18 months or so.

Hmm interesting development. The blurb seems to imply it has a newer bluray drive as it mentions watching uhd films on bluray, which I don't think you can get on the regular sized bluray discs?

If so then £250 is a pretty good price indeed for a complete 4K movie player and console combined....

I've added it to the cart, both versions and applied my code and it's discounted it

It's what we do, advise to wait for the next iteration. Even four hours after announcements and 18 months before a launch. It'll be the same until the back end of 2017.

Yep £224.99 with that code :smiley:

You can't wait it out? What exactly do you want the S for??

I've just done the same and no chance! How strange...

It's likely the MVC50 one that works

Aneed the 2tb version!

good price think i want a 2tb one shame they done have them

i take it you cant upgrade hdd yourself

lol

You have to get an adapter. If you have the current Xbox One and Kinect, you can apply to get the adapter free by entering the serial numbers of Xbox One, Kinect and Xbox One S on a website.

This is what I'm trying to confirm...
The place holder on the MS store website DOES say it'll play 4k UHD discs, so appears to confirm it will be the cheapest 4k BR player in the UK...

I think MS have just pulled a ps3 move...

I've got 2 XB1's, but I'm soooo tempted to order the 2tb model!

EUR 299.00 on Amazon.de, which is currently around £237

Built in PSU.
No dedicated Kinect connection, so that may be the end of that tech (will be a usb connector for it though)
HDR
4K player and streaming capability.
HDMI v2.0
Otherwise its the same spec, so no different for most gaming.

For a UHD blu ray player, and 18 months of having a better quality system

Don't flame me, but I will be curious to see if Game do a trade in deal. I have 2 XB1's, but I want UHD playback. If they didn't take the proverbial, I would definitely be interested in a console plus cash deal to upgrade.

Yeah same I have 2 Xbox ones and am sat debating wether to whack them on eBay and pre order the S model until the Scorpio comes out

It will have a 4k bluray drive, making it the cheapest UHD blu ray player around.

I thought this was a PS4.

Yeah Buzz not all of us are loaded like you and don't buy consoles every other week. It might be way into 2018 for minions like me and Scorpio is something to look forward to in the meantime ;--)) I hope that is ok with you?

To be fair, the target audience is those looking to purchase an Xbox One who don't currently have one yet don't wish to wait 18 months for a purchase.

I'd say this suits them perfectly, wouldn't you? :smiley:

I can't help but think prices of the current one will plummet when the S launches. I'd upgrade for £100 at most...

Is this really only available in white? That'll go great with all my black av items :disappointed:

€299 works out at around £254 delivered for us non Euro fee free converting peasants, topps :smile:

P. S you missed out 40% smaller.

I agree.

But your sarky comment did not suggest that as you just wanted me to say "HOT!!! - Buzz u iz the man now dawg". I am sorry I strayed from the script, please forgive me and I will leave now and let you bask in the heat of your deal. Cheers.

Oh, but there was no sarcasm. It's factual.

We've had the CUH-1200s, then we've had "wait for E3". E3 has been and gone and we're advised to wait until the backend of 2018 for Scorpio.

We could of course just nip it in the bud and never buy an Xbox One, ever.

Was having trouble logging into Zavvi and now won't accept the discount code :disappointed:

First glance - I thought that was a white Playstation

If you play even a fair variety of games, 500GB is not enough. I've got the 500GB but thankfully I only play the same 2-4 games, if you have an active library of 5-10 games you really need 1TB.

Is this the latest console guys? Sorry new to xbox's

Discount code not working anymore expect cancellations on this but I'd wait anyway for the Scorpio far more powerful

Yes.

Waste of money with the Scorpio and Neo out next year

I'm gonna wait for the sub zero version

18 months away

And they will both be a waste when the even newer Torpedo and Submarine versions are announced in 2017

Hopefully the black versions go up for pre-order soon.

Scorpio is likely 16-17 months away, and will cost a lot more than this...
Not exactly a waste really is it?

Clueless.

Thank you. Woukd ou say this is better than the Ps4? want to buy for my kid who is 14

Basically not worth it unless you've a good 4K tv but awesome if you do own a good 4K tv..

People quoting Scorpio release dates, what's your source? Everything I read on this simply said "2017" which could be as little as 6 months away.

For the price and considering it includes a 4K blu ray drive, get this. Assuming you got a 4KTV or getting one soon.
The press conference said Holiday 2017, which is 15-18 months away

MS said 'holiday' 2017...

​Yes, I got a 1tb external HDD plugged in to the back of the Xbox One via the USB. I got about 25games on there and still got 500+GB left.

Anyone manage to get the discount code to work?

PS4K will also have 4K BR Player

Don't know if anyone said it yet, but just remember Scorpio is coming out next year. May be at least worth waiting to see the price of that.

Good price, glad to see it launching for similar price to existing model rather than an extra £100 for the 4k bells and whistles. won't bother myself as don't use the original enough anyway. although, 4k Gears 4, hmmm...

And rumour has it that it will be out by Christmas this year....

New controller that is also both wireless and Bluetooth will also work on pc without adapter. IR blaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuTwtOo88r8

This is what the current Xbox one should of been.

Neither the first code or unidays code works for me unfortunately

Should have been more powerful from the start - but they are where they are.

Don't think 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays, 4K video and HDR video capability would of been anywhere near possible at that time without a huge price increase.

Take a look how much a standalone player is with those specs alone.

Ah I see, thanks for the info'.

I guess so, It's good value for those who have or are taking advantage of 4K tvs etc.. but I'll wait for the Scorpio I think.

Someone feel free to correct me here, but I thought MS stated the 2TB unit was gonna be $299? Or did they actually state "from", meaning that was the entry point (500GB)? The reason for asking is that £349 price tag on Amazon. If the Yanks are being charged $299 for the 2TB version and we're expected to put up with yet more very dodgy conversion rates, then MS can GTF.

I suspect I've picked MS up wrong during the conference, though.

Phil did say From $299

The blurb on the release video said "from $299", the small print said 500gb model. I'd expect the 2tb to be about an extra $100.

shame it's white

$399.99 (£281) on the US Microsoft Store.

​Save your money and build up a fund for when he goes to uni. In the meantime buy him a chemistry set, a set of encyclopedias and a raspberry Pink.

Just messing

This console isn't out yet, your after the Xbox One, which 1 is better is subjective, which 1 has games on he likes.

Just ordered the 2tb, cracking price for a UHD blu-ray player.

Apparently the new Xbox one s controller is an optional extra. Does the zavvi deal come with the new controller?
Edit: some sites seem to suggest that all versions of the new console will come with the new controller.

Day one purchase for me, Scorpio too, Microsoft smashed it...just.

Doubt that but hope so, gives ms chance and time to out spec it!

All S models come with the new controller they meant it can also be bought separately.

$300 = £250

Nope. Waiting for £200 at the very least.

For all those sayings this & that its not worth it the Scorpio And neo
The ERA of consoles should be released max every 1 year like iPhones
People should be upgrading their consoles every year or at least 2 years
If you want something in life you have to just pay the price NOWW
So that means but every version of the console every year fullstop.

Man this is a slick console :man:

anyone know if the codes are working?

Codes are not working on this.

from the conference I didn't realise there would be other sizes available - figured 2TB would be the new standard for the S.

While I'm looking forward to the new console, less excited about preordering from Zavvi who countless times before are quick to post offers at attractive prices well in advance, then decide to cancel them when they don't want to fulfil the order any more. There will be plenty more reliable sellers in the next few months up to launch :smiley:

Cold, wait for scorpio.

looks ugly

Unidays doesn't work for me, ideas?

Uni discount is working on the 2tb console but be quick!

What's the unidays code?

Confirmed
Xbox One S has Ultra High Definition Blu-Ray player (4K).


https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.3366999700?icid=US_Homepage_STH1_EDM_61316

Great price but eh, gonna wait for Xbox Scorpio.

I like how much smaller it is than the original Xbox One.

Sony's conference is in an hour or two but I'll watch that tomorrow. Will try to avoid social media websites to not get 'spoiled'.

Great game lineup, but all games are coming for PC, so i will pass.

amazon.com have a release date of 30/12/2016 for the 500gb and 1tb versions.

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-500GB-Console/dp/B01GW3GY3K/

Can this handle 4k gaming? Well then..

I'll stick with my nvidia shield

Xbox Scorpio will handle 4k native 60fps gaming. This Xbox One S will output the same resolution games as the original Xbox one.

Xbox One S is the cheapest 4K blu-ray player on the market

I thought the Scorpio was a big disappointment. How can you announce something that's not being released until holiday 2017?? shouldn't it been announced firstly at e3 next year and not this one. 6 teraflops? it's impressive if it was been announced this year, also make sense. But the time holiday 2017 comes around, this could already be dated. irrelevant and pointless. I do understand it takes time to make and produce. I am just disappointed. I just hope this is a wake up call to the Nintendo NX to at least match the potential power, 4K gaming and to release by say Easter of next year at the latest. Nintendo could finally be put back on the map. I am not a fan boy and I own all three brands. Just the Scorpio is to far in the future and by that stage I would have preferred a new next generation console apposed to a xbox one . 5. Excuse my moaning, just disappointed with E3 so far. On a happy note I am very happy and excited for Titanfall 2 mostly and Battlefield 1. Even though they are released a week or so apart. Easily warrant playing both as they are so different.

​I always blame Phil!
Phil connors?
Ned?! (smack)

Nintendo announced the NX last year and its not due out till holiday 2017 either.

MS did this due to Sony pulling out showing the NEO this E3 last minute... It's a good play by MS and like Larry said "it worked for Sony"

So far it seems the 2tb version is released 31 August and the others are released December 30th. So if you want it sooner the Limited 2tb version is the one to pre-order.

The dates are just placeholders until MS confirm shipping dates..
Why on earth would they release it 5 days AFTER Christmas??!!! :smile:

As someone else mentioned it's $399 for the 2TB version, but don't forget to add sales tax as well. It's still cheaper but not quite as painful.

What is the Unidays code?

Can you confirm it plays 4k blurays? All 4k players are ridicuosly expensive so i doubt this will. if it does i will purchase on that fact alone.

MS page confirms it plays UHD 4k BR's.

Good price. Waiting for The Scorpio next year.

Not sure how Scorpio will handly 60fps 4k gaming though at 6 teraflops when the Nvidia 1080 an just about run 30fps at 4K with 9 teraflops.

I did say it seems. Zavvi have a date of Aug 18th and Amazon UK of Aug 2nd. No definitive date for the 500gb and 1tb versions so far. Again if you want it first the 2tb version is the way to go.

can you still add an external hard drive?

​Phil was asked to confirm things off camera about this and he couldn't confirm. he actually actually state or confirm fps and actually hz. Personally I think it's a load of rubbish and they are hoping to be able to have the tech ready by holiday 2017. Personally they should have shown proof or specs via a running video.

Xbox One S and Xbox Scorpio does support Ultra 4K Blu-ray players. It even states on Microsoft website

https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.3366999700?icid=US_Homepage_STH1_EDM_61316

Thought so. Unless it runs 9 teraflops in won't be running 4K smooth. It'll be powerful but current stated specs not 4K.

So the scorpio is another console altogether? What's the point of this?

Will wait for the inevitable game trade in offers...

Scorching. Going to buy a 1tb as a second console/media player to replace my PS3.

See if you can work it out for yourself.

when do zavvi take payment

Hi, the money is taken on dispatch

Don't forget that the current Xbox one cant bitstream uncompressed audio so if you have an AV receiver with surround speaker then no HD sound, Atmos or DTS:X for you, no mention if the new S version will be the same or not, so it cant exactly replace a dedicated Bluray or UHD Bluray player

just hope zavvi honour the discount

Yes it can.

What HI-FI

"4K Blu-ray players are in short supply at the moment, with only Panasonic and Samsung currently boasting future-proof decks, but we can now add the first games console to the list.
With the amount of 4K HDR content, both online and via Ultra-HD Blu-rays, currently on the rise, it's good see another source hit the market.

http://www.whathifi.com/news/microsoft-unveils-xbox-one-s-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-and-hdr-support

(Ignore the PlayStation bit at the end that never happened.)

none of the codes work so I have marked as COLD. I do like the price of this for a 4K player but everyone is selling these for £250 so hardly a deal without a working code! sorry.

Thanks :smirk:

It will likely use AMD, and an AMD chip is an R9390x at 6TFLOPS. If you have one and set games to medium. They will likely run at 4K 30FPS. This is probably the experience you'll get. It's just not a big enough performance leap to get anything but a res increase.

looks like they stopped the discount code ? will they try and cancel

also noticed microsoft store now have the release date for the 2tb as the Release date: 31/8/2016

the get deal ink is affiliated, this one is flea fir the zavvi offer - http://m.zavvi.com/xbox-one-console/xbox-one-s-500gb-console/11304205.html

Please see the How we are funded section https://www.hotukdeals.com/about

As with all hukd deals do I really need this?

are they only doing it in white? I need a black one !!!

By the American PC definition, "holiday" means Christmas and the NX won't be out at that time. They're going to release it around March 2017 from what they announced before.

Do MS still do that crappy tie in where they want you to pay for Live in order to use Netflix, YouTube etc?

nope

Thanks. I'm pretty interested in this now then. I need to finally get that 55" HDR 4K TV yet though. I need to convince the wife somehow :wink:

Glad to see they got it down to PS4 size and removed the power brick. This should have been what it looked like on release.

http://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-one-s-has-additional-raw-gpu-and-cpu-power-when-compared-xbox-one Just found this

It does look like a PS4 upright and at certain angles and that isn't smack talk because I don't care lol.

Nope, that's why they are replacing it with scorpio

Xbox one owners:

I am interested in buying one of these, my question is how quickly does the memory get used up?

I am thinking of buying the 1tb or 2tb version.

TIA

Depends, If you are downloading games, I would invest in the 1tb/2tb model, if not 500gb should be fine...

wondering if you can still add an external drive, then it wouldn't be such an issue

You can use an external yes, probably be what I will do. 500GB model then get a 2TB external.

all comes down to if you plan on buying disc or digital download

most i have are on download and free with gold i have used a 1tb nearly had to delete some stuff
i have ordered the 2tb

this wont play 4k movies as it needs a very expensive 4k drive inside. there are only two 4k players on the market at the moment, Samsung at over £400 and Panasonic at over £600

​Errr ok??? http://www.whathifi.com/news/microsoft-unveils-xbox-one-s-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-and-hdr-support

Has it actually been confirmed by Microsoft that this will be able to play UHD Blurays? I've seen it mentioned a lot in articles as a headline upgrade but then in the body of the text it usually says "presumed to be...". If it does play them then this is an utter bargain. It'd pretty much be the cheapest UHD player going!

EDIT - just read that Microsoft has confirmed this. Great news! Not that I need a console... Will probably hold out for the next Nintendo to be honest.

How to make yourself look like an internet idiot in one easy step. :smirk:

Genuine question from a bit of a noob.
I have a 1080p tv. I have zero intention of replacing it with a 4ktv within the next 2 years.
I currently have a PS4.

If i were to get XBox One S or PS4.5, would there be any benefit to me?
as i don't have a 4k tv, and have zero interest in VR.

No, just stick to the ps4.

Good move from Microsoft. Having watched E3, Sony most certainly won it in the games department. That's what it's all about right? Games. Horizon, Days Gone, God of War, Kojimas game Death Stranding, SPIDERMAN!, The Last Guardian, Detroit, the list goes on. Great time to be a gamer =D

When PS2 came out, DVD was very expensive

Xbox Scorpio will handle 4k native 60fps gaming.

I doubt it will. Even the new 1080 card struggles with that, and it's certainly not as powerful.

The Slim Xbox One next to the fat one looks pretty cute.

I liked Sony's E3 in regards to Last Guardian, Death Stranding, Spider-Man and Crash Bandicoot HD Collection (wtf! no Crash Team Racing?!) but overall I didn't find it too satisfying as Microsoft's one. Think Nintendo's E3 is going to be my favourite.

They have done it simply because of the Neo. If they waited until next year the Neo would be out and they would be left behind. Now this is announced people may not buy the Neo and wait for the Scorpio. And the power is impressive this year, next year and even later years for a console. There's no chance it will be left behind by next year if it offers 4K gaming.

You would probably be saying the same thing now even if it was.

They really should have taken the opportunity to make the minimum HDD size 1TB.
Having 500GB drives in newer models of the consoles is like Apple still offering 16GB phones.
The difference in price is about a tenner for M$ to use a 1TB drive vs a 500GB drive... if that!

Just to sum up. This is a great deal for a UHD Blu-ray player right now however if you're willing to wait you'll likely be able to buy a PS4 that also supports UHD Blu-ray. When and how much, we don't know but it might be worth waiting until we know more before parting with your money. Also, we're getting a second Xbox One "Holiday" 2017 that'll be Microsofts answer to the new PS4, so we'll have three consoles that will playback UHD Blu-ray.

Nintendo's next console, codenamed NX, is coming out in March 2017. We know literally nothing about it but there's a slim chance that it'll have an Ultra HD Blu-ray drive. By the time Sony announce their plans I expect we'll know more about the NX.


That's the price for the players, not the drives. The drives themselves are pretty cheap. Presumably the Xbox One S is going to be more powerful than these standalone players but of course aren't going to have things like analogue out that you'll get from a dedicated player. I was sceptical too because of their wording but on their site they say "Ultra HD blu-ray", so that's a confirmation as far as I see.

Answer is in the link

Play the greatest games lineup, including Xbox 360 classics, on a 40% smaller console. Just don’t let its size fool you: with an internal power supply and 500GB of internal storage, the Xbox One S is the most advanced Xbox ever.

Yes to the new playstation. Because it will likely offer better frame rates.

If Nintendo pulls a Wii U 2.0 then the Wii U's my last Nintendo console and I'll stick to what they have released so far and older games (NES, SNES, N64, NGC, Wii). It doesn't help that amiibos contain physical DLC than being sold on the eShop (I don't care about the toys). :-/

amazon have it up for £350

sold out now

Since Xbox Scorpio will have 6 teraflops (980 TI) and much more then Sony will need to top that if they want to have the most 'powerful' console ever too. Microsoft and Sony probably thought about this because of Nintendo's new console and they didn't want to let their customers feel behind with technology.

​??? didn't state anything about 4k blu ray players. I mentioned that they couldn't confirm the Scorpio would.manage to run 4k gaming at 60 fps......

​2tb min. I've got a handful of games. I've doe loaded a few gold free games and it's full. 500gb is a joke. but you can buy large external hard drives much bigger to last. just another brick to add with your xbox though.

Few silly posts from people who clearly prefer one corporation over another. There is room for both consoles and no one knows at the moment what kind of frame rates it can handle. It's about the complete architecture of the console and so what is the point in claiming it won't be capable? There is a video online with lots of well known developers saying that it does. So I will trust their judgement and not that of a disgruntled fanboy. If we choose to get this console and the Scorpio next year, why does it bother you so much? I am a gamer and so I always get all the options. Great news so far from E3 for everybody.

​nice non fan boy comment. agreed.

​Still can be left behind in terms of having the more powerful console. they have a idea what the Scorpio will be like and they can beat it technically and release before then. but as of yet, there isn't enough info or actual gameplay running proof from any manufacture as yet. apart from PC obviously

But I can't see anything else being released that will top it. Sony certainly won't release another console before then. And the NX won't be that powerful.

i don't have an xbox one just now so do you think it would be better to just get the slim or the current xbone? opinions...

If you haven't bothered buying one yet then wait till Xbox Scorpio's out.

i already have a white xboxone and no 4k tv so is it still worth getting this ?

​hmm, that's at least a year away.

Don't you have a backlog of games till then on other consoles? It's worth the wait because in the end you get a much better console than Xbox One Slim.

sold out already wtf, dont even think i have 250 in bank account lol so maybe it's for the best

No get the slim, unless your a die hard gamer I wouldn't bother with the NEO or Scorpio

It's a tease that Microsoft revealed the Xbox One Slim and then also showed later on Xbox Scorpio which is definitely superior. Xbox Scorpio is the better deal of the two but for those that want to currently play on Xbox One then the Slim model's ideal.

Btw, Xbox Scorpio will likely be about £400-500 so that's another thing to consider. It won't be cheap as this.

half way down http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-one-s?xr=shellnav

Indeed so that makes the "s" model a great buy? Not everyone can or wants to fork out upto £500 on a console. I do and will come next year and be already bought the "s" model as I need something to make most of my 4K Samsung tele!

For someone that wants to game on an Xbox One the Slim model is certainly the way to go. It's pretty cool that Microsoft is making their games also available on PC. :smiley:

*game on an Xbox One the Slim is the model to go for -- for the time being

FYI

Just make a new Zavvi account and use the code WELCOME to get 10% (you have to be signed in with your new account). Also if you go through Quidco they will give you 2% cashback with this code. This is for the 2TB version.

According to a few of websites. It does indeed play 4K blu-ray.

http://www.thewrap.com/new-version-of-xbox-one-will-be-cheapest-available-4k-blu-ray-player/
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/230153-the-xbox-one-s-4k-video-output-hdr-and-299

According to a lot of websites. It does indeed play 4K blu-ray.

http://www.thewrap.com/new-version-of-xbox-one-will-be-cheapest-available-4k-blu-ray-player/
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/230153-the-xbox-one-s-4k-video-output-hdr-and-299

microsoft should release an external usb 4k blu-ray player...

And don't forget it will be 4x more powerful because of the cloud. :laughing:

yeah I'll hold out till August to see if any bundles get released..

xBox One S - 500GB £229.97 / 1TB £269.97 @ GameStop (+ poss TopCashBack)
No Need Code

I currently have the 500gb xbox one with external 2tb drive with alot of games on already, if I upgrade to this slim model is there an easy way to re-sync all my games on my external hard drive please? Don't fancy downloading from scratch..
Thanks

External hard drive and Accessories from Xbox One will work with Xbox One S and Xbox Scorpio.
You wont have to re-download your games

I recently moved from an older black model to the white LE Xbox One, so here's what happened with my 2TB drive. I updated the white model and turned it off. Plugged in the 2TB drive and when the Xbox One booted, no games or apps showed up. However, after 5 minutes, they suddenly appeared and worked like they did before!

So, long story short, moving an external drive to the new S model should work fine.

Xbox One S unboxing with Major Nelson

I don't particularly want an S or Scorpio - I responded to your original comment "Scorpio" because it didn't really communicate anything and in worst case might have confused someone less informed into thinking this deal was for a Scorpio.

There is no need to patronise people by saying that my comment was confusing.

It is impossible to stay neutral and confirmation bias or cognitive dissonance will always play a part but ultimately *you* decide when it comes to dropping 200+ bones on a gadget of any kind or choose to wait it out ;--))

Nice! The console and especially the controller looks really amazing and even better than before. I admit I kinda hated Microsoft for what they initially did to Xbox this generation but now I'm starting to feel like things are getting back to normal with the new Slim console.

Still, there's the fact that multiplatform games on PS4 are better optimised than on XO. Then again, with the Xbox Scorpio the games with the limitations will supposedly be able to play at the maximum settings (I'd imagine) so that's not a problem.

anyone one else's Zavvi account suddenly unaccessible?

​Just received this reply from Zavvi's twitter team as per my request for more details on my account is inaccessible "Unfortunately this order has not met our security requirements. I am sorry for any inconvenience. JM"
what the hell?