I've got this on a Try to Buy and it's brilliant, was about to buy it and I've noticed it's dropped price by £25.
QUAD CORE 4G LTE CAPABILITY
With a 64-bit CPU at 1.2GHz, and 4G download speeds of up to 150mbps, the Wileyfox Swift keeps your online life connected, even when you’re on the move. Dual microSIM capability gives you even more flexibility, giving you the option to have two data networks for your single handset.
Customisation - With an open OS, you're in control. You have more freedom and more choices, from the big picture down to the smallest details. Your mobile experience should be as unique as you.
Enhanced Expirences - We believe core experiences like audio, email, and calling can be better. That's why we're reimagining the way we use every day apps and precision-tuning them through the lens of our users.
Privacy & Security - We take security and privacy extremely seriously. Every day we work as a community to make Cyanogen OS more secure.
Top comments
lukenuckley
27 Jun 163#23
I like to carry a spare battery so was pleased to see that this had a user replaceable battery and ordered one a few months ago but subsequently found that I couldn't source a spare battery anywhere for love nor money. Took it up with Wileyfox customer services and they said that they only provide spares to their service centre for repairs. When I pointed out that their own FAQs stated that it was user replaceable I never heard from them ever again but when I subsequently went to copy and paste from the FAQs for my return to Amazon, they'd rather cheekily updated them to the "service centre only" line.
For the record, I thought the phone was brilliant for the few days I had it but even if they made spare batteries freely available I'd hesitate to jump into a relationship with a firm with such shoddy/underhand customer services again.
Heat added for the hardware and the price :-)
Stealth_Fox
27 Jun 163#6
New models being launched tomorrow, probably accounts for the price drop!
Latest comments (53)
stuartconnolly7547
6 Jul 16#53
£124 now
steviedambo
5 Jul 16#52
I've had the black version for the last four months and can honestly say it's worth every penny. I've had two day's battery life, easy. Good, zippy performance. Good screen. For under £100 it's a steal.
blazey85
5 Jul 16#51
Cheers, expired.
stuartconnolly7547
4 Jul 16#50
129 pounds
joepbailey
2 Jul 16#49
Very good price for the white version. Think I've only seen the black one at this price.
pengwyn
30 Jun 161#48
Cyanogen is very customisable you can tell it which apps have access to which functions or deny it part of a function. It also has wildcard call blocking these 2 features alone make it worthwhile. I'd have had this if I wasn't so attached to my 1+ 1
Quids
29 Jun 162#47
Thought I'd give a full review as I'm at work now. :smiley:
I've moved from a - 12 month old, pretty battered - Nokia Lumia 630 (my other phones broke down) to the (7 day old) Swift, so this is a sort of 'comparison', but not intended to be definitive - apples and pears, etc.
Switch on - the Swift takes 53 seconds to get to open screen, the 630 takes 30 seconds. Just timed it.
The 630 is faster at typing out texts etc (which surprised me) than the Swift. We typed out the same text of around 30 words, and the Lumia was definitely faster on all counts. The Swift appears to have issues on the lower part of the keyboard near the edge of the screen in landscape mode; it can take several presses of a key to get a response, it might also give the wrong response. In portrait, the Swift keyboard and text appears slightly smaller than on the 630 and is still slower in our opinion.
Charging times: the 630 goes to a full charge in an hour or less. The Swift has taken well over an hour each time. It appears to be a very slow charger imo. The Swift discharges very fast with moderate use imo, the 630 can last 24-36 hours with similar use.
Screen; the 630 appears to be slightly sharper (imo) but the Swift is a larger screen and it's not bad at all.
Responsiveness: the Swift appears to be slightly more responsive than the 630, but not significantly so imo.
Complexity of use; the 630 is pretty basic, the Swift is definitely complex to use imo, and it took me a couple of days to figure out a lot on it. I've also looked for instructions and manual etc, for the Swift, but so far not found anything like anything comprehensive - if it's out there, it's hidden pretty well.
Apps; there's a world of apps for the Swift and the onboard ones it came with are easily & quickly unloaded. Apps for the 630 are pants :smiley:
Cases for Swift; cheapest decent one - imo - I could find (that I thought would give a little protection too) was around £7 on Amazon.
Call quality; the 630 has a slightly better call (sound) quality in our opinion (based on several calls to several people on several networks). The Swift also seems to have that annoying thing where if you have headphones plugged in and a call comes in, you have to hold it flat in front of your face like a platter to be heard. The 630's never had that problem. Other than that, the calls are ok.
Volume etc; the 630 appears to have louder volume capabilities than the Swift on all things, music, phone calls, ringtones, etc. That surprised me.
Wifi; the Swift definitely grabbed wifi faster than the 630 - much faster imo (my 630 has always had problems grabbing wifi around it). But atm, the Swift doesn't connect at all well - and often not at all - with any wifi on public transport(s).
The Cyanogen bit; no idea what the fuss is about this tbh. Either I'm not using it properly, or it's... meh.
I reckon that's about it tbh. Not sure I'm gonna keep the Swift as I wanted a sort of quantum jump up from the 630 in some areas, but the Swift hasn't delivered for me. Other than that, it IS a nice phone, nice to look at, hold, good construction, etc, etc. And overall, better than the 630.
All above is imo only of course. :smiley:
Edit - ooh, VERY IMPORTANT - the cable that the Swift came with isn't much cop imo. It's a sort of short, white, data cable we assumed for charging in a PC port and connecting to a PC. So far, it's not worked properly at all, and ANY other cables we've used still don't make the Swift appear on a (Windows) PC. So dropping new stuff on the SD card inside it means taking the card out of the Swift, into an adapter, etc, etc. DEFINITELY not impressed with that part. :disappointed:
blazey85
29 Jun 16#46
You might need to drill in to to the Sim settings and tell it to use 4G. My second sim wasn't configured automatically for it either. Bear in mind, only one sim will be used for data at any one time.
Searcher2
29 Jun 16#45
Of course everyone's needs are different but there are very few phones with 2GB+ RAM that offer dual SIM and micro SD at the same time. This is one of them. Others are new Moto G (from moto or a few other places), BLU Life Mark, Lenovo K5. The Xiaomi phones tend not to. I've ended up going for a Moto X from Amazon France (as they are dual SIM).
Quids
29 Jun 16#44
Got one of these.it's okay IMO,but it does have faults . battery on mine is not great at all, lasts around a day it I'm Lucky. keyboard is pants IMO especially if you turn it landscape (as I'm doing now) and you seem to getalot of errors. its not fast either. its no faster than myLumia630 its replaced. so 6/10/for me. Oh, and its complex too. seems to be very little in the way of instruction manual stuff on it to.
happyharry
28 Jun 16#43
I'm running EE as sim 1 (4G) and Voda as sim 2 which only 2G? :disappointed:
pengwyn
28 Jun 16#42
Still using my oneplus one as I like cyanogen. Is there anything superior specwise that has cyanogen out of the box
blazey85
28 Jun 16#41
So the new phones announced today don't blow my skirt up. Still very happy with this deal.
bellboys
28 Jun 16#40
Voted hot because it's the cheapest price for the product but there are much much better phones from China for similar/slightly more money, even now the pound has crashed. Of course, it all depends how risk averse you are due to the effectively no warranty cover on them. But phones like the Xiaomi redmi Note 3 Pro feature much better specs for so little more and the phone I am currently using, the Meizu MX4 Pro has a simply amazing spec (QHD 5.5 screen, 3GB RAM, 16GB ROM, real hi fi DAC, fingerprint scanner, Sony 20.7mp rear camera but no SD card) and can currently be picked up for 107 quid on eBay.
Base model Wileyfox Spark - 1GB RAM, 8GB storage, 8MP camera, 5" 720p screen, 2200mAh battery - £89.99
Spark+ model - 2GB RAM, 16GB storage, 13MP camera, 5" 720p screen, 2200mAh battery - £114.99
Spark X model - same specs as Spark+ with 5.5" 720p screen and 3000mAh battery. - £129.99.
All run the same MediaTek MT6735A, quad-core 1.3GHz processor, Cyanogen OS 13 (based on Marshmallow), dual micro-sim. No word on expandable storage.
Base model Spark released - July 12.
Spark + late July
Spark X - August.
blazey85
28 Jun 16#38
Yes, I've got O2 and EE running on this, both with 4G
Dcontrol
28 Jun 16#37
I wouldn't trust the site authors article with the wrong information on that link. They claim Wileyfox is a German smartphone maker. It isn't, it's a British company based in London. Not sure how they could get that wrong really.
bill888
28 Jun 16#36
Does this phone support 4G band 20 as used by o2 etc ?
bigsipie
28 Jun 16#35
3 new handsets revealed today. Hold of till then
bmz
28 Jun 16#34
under a £100 for a well respected basic phon with a good spec
Nice find :smiley:
RobertM0215
27 Jun 16#33
5 inch
madmaxpayne
27 Jun 16#32
Screen size?
SALLIE1ST
27 Jun 16#31
Found it! Thank you. May I just say I will sleep well tonight and can confirm that I am extremely happy with the quality of this phone (I may be easily pleased) :-)
master10
27 Jun 16#30
Can be had for £94 on primenow for new customers (emails) using primenow5 code.
SALLIE1ST
27 Jun 16#29
Thank you, but where in settings?
SALLIE1ST
27 Jun 16#28
I've tried that, but can't get it to work. the volume just turns down! But thank you.
Budape
27 Jun 16#27
I have owned a swaift for 5 weeks and must say its a joy
aligimp
27 Jun 161#26
I had to send my wileyfox back, was a shame, I loved it but it started to crash on a regular basis after 4 months. Battery started at 2 days and went down to 3/4 of a day by the end. Zero customer service so was glad of Amazon returns policy. Been happy with the BLU lifemark I got to replace it, paid £100 but it has also started to crash the last two days. No reply from customer service yet... Budget phones you get what you pay for or you get lucky I guess.
D_Jay_M
27 Jun 162#25
Thanks for the links and your detailed information that tells us what these other alternative phones are better at
DirtyQwerty
27 Jun 161#24
Wait for the "Wileyfox Spark" tomorrow. This is starting to look dated compared with the new Moto G, etc.
I like to carry a spare battery so was pleased to see that this had a user replaceable battery and ordered one a few months ago but subsequently found that I couldn't source a spare battery anywhere for love nor money. Took it up with Wileyfox customer services and they said that they only provide spares to their service centre for repairs. When I pointed out that their own FAQs stated that it was user replaceable I never heard from them ever again but when I subsequently went to copy and paste from the FAQs for my return to Amazon, they'd rather cheekily updated them to the "service centre only" line.
For the record, I thought the phone was brilliant for the few days I had it but even if they made spare batteries freely available I'd hesitate to jump into a relationship with a firm with such shoddy/underhand customer services again.
Heat added for the hardware and the price :-)
harveybq
27 Jun 16#22
Got to go for the redmi note 3 pro for an extra £20 surely...
happyharry
27 Jun 16#21
no cover in the box but got one @ amazon. really nice phone, excellent battery life (a day & a half). screen size is good (5") and its quick with 2gb ram. 16gb storage fits everything I need and loads spare. my experience with wf cs is not good but can only assume better than most Chinese cheapo's who's cs will be non-existent. for £100 don't think you'll regret it for a minute. (
I've had mine for 9 months & its
never missed a beat)
ledgie
27 Jun 161#20
Swift is on CM13 whish is based on marshmallow.
brainsys
27 Jun 16#19
Isn't the OS based on Lollipop? Is there a commitment to upgrading to Marshmellow and beyond? Is that a commitment from CyangenMod or Wileyfox?
parasitemol
27 Jun 16#18
What's the battery life like? I'm currently using the Huawei P8 and the battery is atrocious, would be willing to drop to this for better battery life.
Also, what's in the box? Does it come with a plastic cover or anything cause accessories online seem sparse.
Many thanks
mbrady35
27 Jun 16#17
#hold down volume and power button at same time, doesn't always work first time, need to keep trying it#
mbrady35
27 Jun 16#16
I have one myself and think its brilliant, battery life is as good as any smart phone, normally find that a full charge lasts till evening
forknknife
27 Jun 16#15
I think you hold down the power button and there you will find take a screen shot along with turn off device, restart and airplane mode.
if it's not there you can go into settings to set it up so it is.
NikLP
27 Jun 161#13
Friend has "a wileyfox" but said the battery was like about 5m worth then dead.
SALLIE1ST to NikLP
27 Jun 161#14
I have one and the battery lasts all day if not two! Your friend should report it to customer service. Brillliant phone for the price. I got one to take on holiday so I didn't run the risk of losing my IPhone. I haven't switched back! (I just need to know how to take a screenshot and I will be happy)
itr786
27 Jun 16#12
Many other cheaper/better alternatives available. Pointless going for this.
jaydeeuk1
27 Jun 16#11
Shame about the screen , battery life and processor to the often £99 priced smart ultra 6, looks interesting otherwise.
Calvin_
27 Jun 16#10
I bought one of these back in march, ended up sending it back unfortunately. really bad sound quality, people couldn't hear me speak. some certain apps couldn't run on it. my sim couldn't find a network. Shame really as it was as nice phone and had everything I was looking for but unfortunately just didn't work for me! :disappointed:
mango carrot
27 Jun 162#9
What's a "try to buy" please?
woldranger
27 Jun 162#8
As previously mentioned, there's a new model being launched so it might be an idea to hold off till then to either see about the new one or what impact it's release has on prices of this one. It's been £99 a few times recently
loopz
27 Jun 16#7
£90 on warehouse deal!
Stealth_Fox
27 Jun 163#6
New models being launched tomorrow, probably accounts for the price drop!
REAL_DEAL
27 Jun 16#5
Bought, bargain cheers.....OP
chickdem
27 Jun 16#1
really really tempted to get this now
blazey85 to chickdem
27 Jun 16#2
It's fantastic, go for it!
peympeym to chickdem
27 Jun 161#4
Don't be a chicken, go for it
philjstephenson
27 Jun 161#3
got the black one last time it hit this price point, really decent phone for the cash, well happy at it!
Opening post
QUAD CORE 4G LTE CAPABILITY
With a 64-bit CPU at 1.2GHz, and 4G download speeds of up to 150mbps, the Wileyfox Swift keeps your online life connected, even when you’re on the move. Dual microSIM capability gives you even more flexibility, giving you the option to have two data networks for your single handset.
Customisation - With an open OS, you're in control. You have more freedom and more choices, from the big picture down to the smallest details. Your mobile experience should be as unique as you.
Enhanced Expirences - We believe core experiences like audio, email, and calling can be better. That's why we're reimagining the way we use every day apps and precision-tuning them through the lens of our users.
Privacy & Security - We take security and privacy extremely seriously. Every day we work as a community to make Cyanogen OS more secure.
Top comments
For the record, I thought the phone was brilliant for the few days I had it but even if they made spare batteries freely available I'd hesitate to jump into a relationship with a firm with such shoddy/underhand customer services again.
Heat added for the hardware and the price :-)
Latest comments (53)
I've moved from a - 12 month old, pretty battered - Nokia Lumia 630 (my other phones broke down) to the (7 day old) Swift, so this is a sort of 'comparison', but not intended to be definitive - apples and pears, etc.
Switch on - the Swift takes 53 seconds to get to open screen, the 630 takes 30 seconds. Just timed it.
The 630 is faster at typing out texts etc (which surprised me) than the Swift. We typed out the same text of around 30 words, and the Lumia was definitely faster on all counts. The Swift appears to have issues on the lower part of the keyboard near the edge of the screen in landscape mode; it can take several presses of a key to get a response, it might also give the wrong response. In portrait, the Swift keyboard and text appears slightly smaller than on the 630 and is still slower in our opinion.
Charging times: the 630 goes to a full charge in an hour or less. The Swift has taken well over an hour each time. It appears to be a very slow charger imo. The Swift discharges very fast with moderate use imo, the 630 can last 24-36 hours with similar use.
Screen; the 630 appears to be slightly sharper (imo) but the Swift is a larger screen and it's not bad at all.
Responsiveness: the Swift appears to be slightly more responsive than the 630, but not significantly so imo.
Complexity of use; the 630 is pretty basic, the Swift is definitely complex to use imo, and it took me a couple of days to figure out a lot on it. I've also looked for instructions and manual etc, for the Swift, but so far not found anything like anything comprehensive - if it's out there, it's hidden pretty well.
Apps; there's a world of apps for the Swift and the onboard ones it came with are easily & quickly unloaded. Apps for the 630 are pants :smiley:
Cases for Swift; cheapest decent one - imo - I could find (that I thought would give a little protection too) was around £7 on Amazon.
Call quality; the 630 has a slightly better call (sound) quality in our opinion (based on several calls to several people on several networks). The Swift also seems to have that annoying thing where if you have headphones plugged in and a call comes in, you have to hold it flat in front of your face like a platter to be heard. The 630's never had that problem. Other than that, the calls are ok.
Volume etc; the 630 appears to have louder volume capabilities than the Swift on all things, music, phone calls, ringtones, etc. That surprised me.
Wifi; the Swift definitely grabbed wifi faster than the 630 - much faster imo (my 630 has always had problems grabbing wifi around it). But atm, the Swift doesn't connect at all well - and often not at all - with any wifi on public transport(s).
The Cyanogen bit; no idea what the fuss is about this tbh. Either I'm not using it properly, or it's... meh.
I reckon that's about it tbh. Not sure I'm gonna keep the Swift as I wanted a sort of quantum jump up from the 630 in some areas, but the Swift hasn't delivered for me. Other than that, it IS a nice phone, nice to look at, hold, good construction, etc, etc. And overall, better than the 630.
All above is imo only of course. :smiley:
Edit - ooh, VERY IMPORTANT - the cable that the Swift came with isn't much cop imo. It's a sort of short, white, data cable we assumed for charging in a PC port and connecting to a PC. So far, it's not worked properly at all, and ANY other cables we've used still don't make the Swift appear on a (Windows) PC. So dropping new stuff on the SD card inside it means taking the card out of the Swift, into an adapter, etc, etc. DEFINITELY not impressed with that part. :disappointed:
Base model Wileyfox Spark - 1GB RAM, 8GB storage, 8MP camera, 5" 720p screen, 2200mAh battery - £89.99
Spark+ model - 2GB RAM, 16GB storage, 13MP camera, 5" 720p screen, 2200mAh battery - £114.99
Spark X model - same specs as Spark+ with 5.5" 720p screen and 3000mAh battery. - £129.99.
All run the same MediaTek MT6735A, quad-core 1.3GHz processor, Cyanogen OS 13 (based on Marshmallow), dual micro-sim. No word on expandable storage.
Base model Spark released - July 12.
Spark + late July
Spark X - August.
Nice find :smiley:
Edit: Actually it looks like the new phone is going to be a Moto E type device so I'd just go with the Swift if you're considering it
For the record, I thought the phone was brilliant for the few days I had it but even if they made spare batteries freely available I'd hesitate to jump into a relationship with a firm with such shoddy/underhand customer services again.
Heat added for the hardware and the price :-)
I've had mine for 9 months & its
never missed a beat)
Also, what's in the box? Does it come with a plastic cover or anything cause accessories online seem sparse.
Many thanks
if it's not there you can go into settings to set it up so it is.