Except the SU6 can be purchased with a usable local warranty.

Great price, amazing. Honestly I've been a big iPhone user for the past 5 years but seeing all these upcoming Chinese brands manufacturing great products and now the smart ultra 7 at prices like this, I am finding it very hard to bring myself or even think of any reason to throw a bunch of money at Apple.

Dont think it has a fingerprint scanner its just a physical home button.

Are these unlockable yet?

Think their blog might be wrong other sites say otherwise.
https://jmcomms.com/2016/06/27/review-vodafone-smart-ultra-7-can-it-take-the-crown-from-the-2015-smart-ultra-6/

http://www.gsmarena.com/vodafone_smart_ultra_7-8163.php

Unfortunately it doesn't have a fingerprint scanner. Not sure why they've given it a physical home button. The backlit capacitive buttons worked just fine.
I need a new phone. My SU6 has a broken earphone socket (my own fault) and the screen has gone weird. I think the heat from the sun has done something to it. There's loads of tiny lines around the edges of the screen.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/138064-vodafone-smart-ultra-7-preview-a-new-standard-for-affordable-smartphones

Handson review says no fingerprint scanner

Great price, amazing. Honestly I've been a big iPhone user for the past 5 years but seeing all these upcoming Chinese brands manufacturing great products and now the smart ultra 7 at prices like this, I am finding it very hard to bring myself or even think of any reason to throw a bunch of money at Apple.

What I've noticed with the Smart First 7 and Smart Prime 7 is they've kinda been downgrade devices in many areas. This phone isn't as such but I've read that the screen isn't IPS despite GSM Arena saying it is. I don't know about you lot but all the phones I've had that have had an air gap between the display and the digitiser have got dust trapped and annoyed me soooo much. I can't cope with that haha

1-2 weeks availability in store so is this effectively pre-orders? I was holding off getting a Moto G4 to look at this when it came out but to be honest I think I'll pay the extra for the G4 I'm just not feeling the ultra 7 (based on no evidence!)

​been using g4 plus for about a week.
great phone. finger scanner works great.
really quick responding..
pay little extra and get quality item..

how do the specs compare with the su6

My smart ultra 6 did this too! Got so bad I had to replace it (with a s7 edge). I think its to do with heat as I mounted it next to a fan in my car quite regularly.

So pretty much the same, but dearer

A slightly faster processor.. and that's it? I'll stick with my Ultra 6 for another year.

Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro (3gb/32gb) blows this phone out of the water for the same price.

Mediatek junk in this one, likely won't run smoothly, there will be a lack of support, your device will be left vulnerable and you're supporting a company that breaks the law in many places and are illegally using code. Vodafone should be ashamed.

http://www.xda-developers.com/have-you-paid-your-linux-kernel-source-license-fee/

Oh and android 6. Woo!

Same fault but left hand side button stopped working

I too have noticed a pattern a round the edges today, thought it was on screen but its under the glass. Odd

WTF? Mediatek!? Thought it was only chinese tat phones that came with it and its wonky GPS.
CBA to read reviews now, have they bothered improving the camera like they promised?

All it needed was a better camera, gyroscope and a less plasticky body, and it would have been the best bang for buck phone for 2nd year running.

On the plus side, maybe the SU6 will drop to sub £80.

Did anyone try the Download Sources somewhere amongst the details?
Isn't it made by different company compared SU6?

Looking at this thread you'll need it

It's worth noting that whilst the Ultra 6 has specs which put it above a Moto-G - the Moto-G is simply a smoother and all-around quicker phone to use (not much in it, but it is) - so don't read too much into specs.

I've had an Ultra6 for a while now and it's fine for the most part - but my next phone will be smaller because, frankly, 5.5" screens are just too big for convenience (a trend even in higher-end phones - they've gotten too-damned-big)

£135 AND Vodafone... cold from me lol who wants a double dunt in life...

Nice find :smiley:

Are you sure that it is the Alcatel POP 4s.
I just bought the phone yesterday and wanna unlock it.
Needed a reliable source for unlocking.

The redmi note 3 pro 3gb version absolutely crushes this and it's cheaper

If I'm honest, it isn't a step up enough for me to bother changing from my SU6.

I've had no problems or slow-down in my phone so far, and for under £100 it has performed admirably (save for the rubbish camera, but I expect this from cheaper phones, and have a real camera anyway).

I also agree with other commentators, that 5.5" is a tad too big for one hand, and I'd be better served with 5" and a decent 7" or 8" tablet.

I have a SU6 and am really happy with it.

However I don't think these will sell as well as last year's variant.

Why? The low-budget, reasonably specced market is growing rapidly. Take the Honor 5C for example. It's only £15 more but has a better build quality and design, slightly faster processor (Kirin) and probably a better camera. Oh, and it'll be unlocked straight out of the box. Even if the P9 Lite comes down to £150 again that will also put the SU7 to shame.

With the current uncertainty of these being unlocked on the cheap (as they're now made by Alcatel instead of ZTE), it would be silly to get this over an Honor 5C.

How about the warranty?

I think the extra few quid for the Honor 5C is well spent that would pretty much beat this in every department

I believe Vodafone use 800 and 2600. They have been increasing their use of 800mhz, so if you plan on using 4g on Vodafone you would be better with a phone with that frequency.
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/opinion/network-wifi/why-vodafones-frequency-choice-should-interest-you/

Not really the place but my Ultra6 DOES have slowdown - it can get really, really unresponsive sometimes and often feels 'sticky' but the solution is easy enough - turn it off and on again from time-to-time (it even has a restart option!!)

Plenty of Android apps just clog-up your device with junk ofc so it depends what you run (ANY Amazon app is a bad idea, Instagram seems prone to clutter too, Facebook is bloated **** etc. etc.)

​Mine is under the glass too. It's strange. I was in Benidorm last week which is when I noticed it. The phone was hot so I do think it's to do with heat. I'm wondering if I can take it back to Vodafone? I'm not on Vodafone as I unlocked the phone straight away but I'm pretty sure that shouldn't actually matter although I know how pathetic Vodafone can be.

But EMUI is so pretty, though. I know I may be one of a select few who say this. Yes, the design language is clearly stolen/inspired from iOS. There are so many features found in EMUI that you can't find in stock Android, like the pro camera features and one handed modes.

I agree with you that some of the features/software on the Huawei are good. On the other hand, you always feel like those stutters and lags are a result of the strange things Huawei are doing in the background. The longer you use it, the worse it gets. A factory reset helps matters but who wants to do this every 6 months? Also forget any chance of a major OS update within a respectable timeframe.

Few quid more you can get the honor 5X or 5C.
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/huawei-honor-5x-grey-51090bxt/version.asp

http://www.ebuyer.com/751318-huawei-honor-5c-16gb-smartphone-dark-grey-51090nng?mkwid=sWA3N2WiH_dc&pcrid=51630194939&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CNv0nsTQys0CFagy0wodJ9gDEA

​Can't say I've noticed that much slowdown on my Honor 7 and have had it for 9 months or so.

MT6755 vs sd617?

It used to drive me crazy on the Huawei that it would stutter on one keypress, only to do the next few, really fast and smooth and then back to a stutter. The Mrs's Moto G on the other hand always was much more consistent.

This does have NFC.

Surely the post should say £145 though as Vodafone no longer sell their phones without a top-up. I noticed it this morning :disappointed:

Can't even get my xiaomi to use the Internet with talkmobile which uses Vodafone. Well no data.

The pitfalls of buying Chinese imports from Gearbest etc!
I know Xiaomi is a decent brand, but I'd only ever buy my phones from proper UK sellers.

​If it's under warranty then get it repaired... mine was like that for months before button stopped working... couldn't remember if it had always been like that which is why I didn't send it back sooner

Well the Vodafone website states it is indeed an IPS panel so that's good then. Still don't know what phone to buy. This requires a £10 top-up so it's effectively £145. Moto G is only £15 more and is being supported by Motorola for the next 3 years, but that has no NFC :disappointed:

Presume you've entered the necessary APN settings?

Those mmmmboppers are reviewing phones now?

Yeah. Still no data.

No, the Xiaomi will not work properly on Vodafone 4G or O2 4G. It doesn't have the 800MHz band (Band 20). Unfortunately, no Xiaomi phone has Band 20 which is a pity because they produce good hardware. Some Chinese phones do have Band 20, like Umi, but always worth checking first.

What a pain. I had problems with Life Mobile data as well, narrowed it down to their end by testing on a different phone, but guess you've done that already if it's a new phone. The other gotcha is to check that the data connection is switched on under settings->data->Vodafone.

Yeah done all that thanks. Same problem no data what ever way I try it. Got a ID mobile working on it now and the talkmobile on the Huawei P8.

There was an issue with a firmware update that got no data about a month ago, think it was Miui 7.2.5, now on 7.3.6, seems ok.
http://54.243.194.135/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=298551&extra=page%3D1&page=1&mobile=2

Not that great.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1404873/vodafone-smart-ultra-7-review-return-of-the-moto-g-killer

For the same money or even slightly less, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro blows this out of the water.

On all reviews not as good as new moto g & not much of an upgrade on su6, I'll keep with my su6 for the time being.

I had the screen replaced on my VSU6 however I believe they damaged the mic as google voice doesn't work now :disappointed:
I would like a phone with a fingerprint reader though.

Another one who had issues with the Smart Ultra 6 developing lines around the sides of the screen also got them at the bottom which i think is why the home button stopped working, just in warranty so vodafone have taken it for repair, stopped working on holiday in mexico so think its definitely heat related.

How easily is it unlocked?