2012 called - they want their drive failure statistics back.

XP lol

The manufacturer isn't as important as the particular drive.

Paid £89.99 for a WD 5tb from Currys just before Christmas. Want to borrow my car?

I'd just like to add: Anyone who was stupid enough (like me) to think they'd grabbed a bargain when these were selling on Amazon Marketplace just over a week ago for £85.37 each, should immediately contact Amazon for a full refund.
The A**H*** Marketplace seller has done a runner and is no longer trading on Amazon. So don't expect any response.

It amazes me though how Amazon prices can change daily, as they have done from £110.99, £114.99, £100.99, £110.99 within 5 days.

The are many factors in involved in hardrive failure , knocks and vibration , faulty controllers , humidity , improper hardive ejection , head crash , motor failure .... I have had more western digital drives fail than seagate for example, any manufacturer drive can fail at anytime .

Price gone back up to £110. Deal expired.

No, I'm fine here, thanks all the same though :smiley:

Now a days it's all about maximizing profit and planned obsolescence.

Why do u think HDD manufacturers reduced their respective warranties? All drives used to have 3 years regardless of weather they were performance (7200 rpm or higher) or standard (5400 rpm). Now we are charged a premium for drives with better warranties that are generally 5400rpm!!!! I thought technology was supposed to improve things and make them more reliable. Come on!!!

Guess I've been lucky only one drive fail in 10 years, an old old deskstar. I have seagates, maxtors, samsungs and most resently a Toshiba.

Jog on.

No.

Does anyone recommend this for NAS drives?

xp is largely irrelevant, just like other peoples comments.

If you use an OS as old as XP you shouldn't expect new hardware works with it. It's over 14 and half years old which is an eternity in computing.

Does every computer-related deal need to include a disclaimer about whether it does or doesn't work with XP?

I wasn't trying to be clever by the way.

There is always one who can't see beyond his/her own smugness and feels compelled to make what he/she considers to be a "clever" remark. Today you win the first prize of a pointy hat with a big "D" on it, and a priority place in the corner. Apart from that, you have a nice afternoon.

Oh, it will be fully compatible with the FDD, just not the operating system. Still, I don't mind you trying to look cleverer than you actually are. You have a good afternoon now.

That they do it does not mean you have to accept it, it is a shoddy practice that nobody should accept, yes if you have had a HDD for 3/4 years and it fails and they offer a refurbished for free i doubt anybody would complain, but a £120 HDD that fails after 3 months after purchase and they send a refurbished that was a complete mess with scratches all over it, and not even the same model, no way anybody would accept that, i certainly did not, and neither did my local trading standards office who had it sorted out in one call before i got the call back stating it was all a mistake and i should have been sent a new one right away.

Shoody practice that i for one will never let them away with because they cannot change your consumer rights just because they say so. :wink:

I'm sure this is broadly similar to what I bought & put in my NAS a couple of years ago - been working absolutely fine

Can't confirm if this particular model has a SATA/USB adapter (good - can take out the case and use as an ordinary dive) or just "straight through" USB interface (bad - can only plug into a USB socket)

As far as reliability is concerned, I implemented RAID5, so I'd be especially unlucky if I lost two at the same time.

2 and half weeks mine lasted fortunately Argos gave me a full refund.

All HDD manufacturers do that. I returned a faulty 4TB Western Digital Se HDD and received a refurbished drive in return. As long as it works I don't mind.

No one should be using Windows XP in 2016 on a home PC.

Also, GTX 1080 graphics cards, NVMe PCIe SSDs and USB 3.1/Thunderbolt 3 ports won't work with XP either.

just a word of caution for anyone using windows 95. this will likely not be compatible with your floppy disk drive.

You pays your money and takes your chances. I have just had a Sandisk Ultra II 240GB die on me after 18 months. It was covered by a 3 year warranty and is now on its way back to the Czech Republic for replacement. The only problem with that is that the whole process will take about three weeks. Fortunately I had done a Macrium backup of the whole system a couple of days beforehand so everything should be back as it was within 90 minutes. With hard drives it's all down to luck.

the 3tb seagates were cancer, its those drives that gave seagate a bad name. the rest were fine
edit: the 3tb ones if i remember correctly has a failure rate of 30%

Thanks OP. £95.94 after "student" discount.

little surprised by the WD red 2tb failure rate :confused:

I use this drive with my Xbox one had for 6 months and no problems

I won't click cold as i do not like to do that, but i will add from personal experience that seagate drives are just terrible, i have the 4tb verson of this and it failed within 3 month with not much use, and Seagate, as per their policy i found out after the fact, sent out a refurbished version as a replacement, yeap, they feel a secondhand refurbished HDD that looked like Freddy Kruger had packed it was good customer practice, and i had to fight with them for over 2 months to get a actual new replacement.

My advice stay clear of any company that has a policy of replacing fault almost new HDD with refurbished one.

Backups will save you, you should have learnt that lesson.

Seagate Archive HDD Review

Check out my review of the 8TB Archive drive. It uses SMR and may help you get around the write performance issue.

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Just lost last 2years from a corrupt drive, taken a plunge and purchased the Sandisk SSD Portable Drive, hopefully that'll save me

I've had my 5TB Seagate drive for over 2 years and still working fine :smiley: Normally stick to Western Digital but can't fault this drive

Ah good old acronyms, where would we be without them >

SMR means >

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shingled_magnetic_recording

"The overlapping-tracks architecture may slow down the writing process"

It's great when you explain things, so other people understand isn't it :smiley:

Another great explanation here >

http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/shingled-magnetic-recording-SMR

I will always hunt down acronyms and give an explanation as I see it as lazy and actually not that helpful, if you post the acronym then explain it! This isn't a tech forum, this is a general forum. There's lots we all learn here from each other, but if you're going to be geek then explain for the non geeks.

First rant of the day over :smiley:

Paid £89.99 for a WD 5tb from Currys just before Christmas. Want to borrow my car?

Amazing price for 5TB.

Shame it's not a WD.

For those living in the past, don't forget that Seagate acquired Maxtor who previously acquired Quantum, makers of the 'Big Foot' drives, which had a bad rep at one point!

​I've got this drive and find it very slow for sustained writes, I believe the drive inside mine is an SMR (purchased about 6 months ago)
It wouldnt suprise me if your drive is non-SMR - you never know what drive you are getting.

Hold on a minute, I'm all for bashing Seagate but the 5TB drive isn't even on that list and the failure rates are for the 4TB version.

Yep.

I just checked and I have that very drive in my server :confused::laughing:
Had it up and running since Oct 2013.

Time to get everything off of it and onto another drive :stuck_out_tongue:

Wow, 198 out of 266 total in Q1 2016! Sounds like a drive to definitely avoid... :stuck_out_tongue:

Nobody ever said that about me before. Thanks.:laughing:

i read a review about this, peoples complaints were that it was slow. might give this another look.

The manufacturer isn't as important as the particular drive.

2012 called - they want their drive failure statistics back.

Very very slow? Mine maintains 150MB/s sequential read and writes, not the fastest drive but definitely not slow.

from what i have read, this drive is very very slow. decent amount of storage for the price. hot for that.

I have one of these and it's working perfectly, plugged into my router and using it as a NAS with my Apple TV. Only issue I have is that it's a bit noisy

Yeah, don't forgot the IBM deathstars too

The poster is very good at Maths :smirk:

XP has a 2TB per volume limit. Almost no one uses XP 64 bit.

SEAGATE!!!!!!
that should be all you need to know

It's a desktop sized hard drive, won't fit in a laptop or PS4.

Laptop, don't think so. It is a 3.5 inch drive.

Good price Op, heat.

Will this make a good NAS drive?

If pulling the drive is it one of the ones with a hard wired usb instead of a sata? Also some Seagate drives just don't work as they had a bad batch. But the 5tb should be ok.

XP lol

Just a word of caution for anyone still using XP 32 bit, this most likely will not be recognised by the sytem because of the way large drives are now built.

Seems good price even more so if you can remove the drive e.g. for a laptop or ps4 upgrade....