Being in the same industry myself, I can assure it is real crazy deal TBH. You hardly find refurbished Celeron boxes with 8GB 1TB let alone Core i3 around this price.

Have bought Argos refurbished laptops before and they are in excellent cosmetic condition.

Bargain!!!

Second hand, gonna be some disappointed folk.

states 4th gen i3 in listing

I've taken the risk, well worth it at this price. can always send it back if it's not up to scratch

how the **** is this good

great deal, if i was in the market for a laptop id be getting this.

Please put Refurbished in the title as it's very relevant info.

Does Lenovo do the refurbishment or some night cleaner at Argos?

I saw that, but this bothered me:

Manufacturer refurbished: An item that has been professionally restored to working order by a manufacturer-approved vendor. This means the product has been inspected, cleaned and repaired to meet manufacturer specifications and is in excellent condition. This item may or may not be in its original packaging. See the seller’s listing for full details.

in the market for a laptop for the kids. is there a concensus that this is a good laptop for the money. got a 13 inch screen at the moment which is getting slow. wanted to upgrade but on a budget of under £200. seems to fit the bill. just wanted some confirmation as im not good with specs.

thanks

For reference this is £279 new at John Lewis

http://www.johnlewis.com/lenovo-ideapad-100-laptop-intel-core-i3-8gb-ram-1tb-15-6-black/p2461515?sku=235536341&kpid=235536341&s_kenid=bd736452-6ba6-4a37-ae39-d7d151061d9c&s_kwcid=402x2289461&tmad=c&tmcampid=73

I can't imagine why an 8 year old would need a computer but then I'm not the Lenovo Marketing Dept...

Minecraft :wink:

LOL : I hated to post it ... but in all honesty I had to. :innocent:

Heat from me. The "refurbished" thing should be taken with a grain of salt with the Argos eBay Outlet in my experience. Very often they are simply "open box" unused returns or items that have been opened to show to a customer in store. An HP Chromebook I bought from them once was clearly brand new with a sealed box, even though it was supposed to be a refurb, so it's luck of the draw really.

Indeed, usually they are customer returned units due to change of mind. The ones I bought were literally like new as well. Some even had keyboard / screen protection still intact.

Yet, I've added refurbished in title to make it clear.

Not overly keen on the brand name.

I bought the Asus from Argos eBay today.

The Asus I ordered has the Intel Pentium n3700 quad core.

Argos returns have always been perfect for me.

The 3 hour battery life puts me off

There's a detailed review here.

No it's D and G Henry that would repair if it went wrong

same no HDMI port

Does this laptop have an HDMI port? Links to new ones....

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4875619.htm?utm_campaign=bazaarvoice&utm_medium=SearchVoice&utm_source=RatingsAndReviews&utm_content=Default#pdpFullDesc

...suggest they do.

No offensive freddy but your really flaky with your computer knowledge. This laptop a lot better than the Asus you bought. This laptop https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-5005U+%40+2.00GHz
vs your laptop https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+N3700+%40+1.60GHz

​I doubt you're going to see a massive increase in performance between these two though... those benchmarks are based on the CPU itself. Neither of these laptops are gaming machines, so tell me how the Lenovo would perform better in every day tasks...

I preferred the Asus as it's a better known brand, nicer looking laptop, and overall, there will be a difference with it being £40 cheaper...

So your Asus comes with 8GB RAM and 1TB HDD for £140? FYI Lenovo is a bigger brand name than Asus.

thanks that's what I was looking for! my asus t100 has 8 hour battery life but 10" screen and atom processor. so wondering what else is out there with good battery life but bigger screen. my other laptops' batteries tend to die after 2 hours

Review says 4h15 run time. guess depends on the test. this is 'web surfing'

Battery Runtime


Our real world Wi-Fi test simulates the load needed for opening websites. The "Balanced" profile is enabled, and the screen's brightness is set to approximately 150 cd/m². The IdeaPad achieves a runtime of 4:15 hours. This rate is not extraordinary, but it is acceptable in view of the price range.

​I didn't say that? I said there's a £40 difference... the Asus is £40 more. I don't know much about Lenovo.

Going back to my benchmark comment, can you answer that?

This or https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371495157978

Freddy your really making yourself look foolish on here :smile: This Asus is what you think is better deal right? http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/asus-x553sa-15-6-inch-intel-pentium-2-4ghz-8gb-1tb-windows-10-laptop-refurb-219-2468704
Compared to this deal which is better in all aspect and is £40 cheaper. If you had an ounce of common sense you would buy this laptop and return the Asus you just bought.

Thinking of replacing this HP I got last summer - http://www.tesco.com/direct/hp-pavilion-15-p264na-laptop-156-amd-a10-8gb-ram-1tb-silver/796-2991.prd

I've already compared processors and this one in the Lenovo is better. Other than that, I'm struggling to see how they stack up against each other in all areas. What I do know is I can't stand the trackpad and keyboard on my HP, the display and sound are poor and I've found using it pretty frustrating. I mainly use it for recording and producing music and video editing.

Any thoughts? This price is really tempting....

Well most parts are the same, it's better in two very important respects though, better processor (and graphics) and it's cheaper.

Some will go to extraordinary lengths to support their own hukd postings though.

It's not that, freddy genuinely thinks these aspects are not that important because someone else has told him this (he doesn't really know himself because he doesn't know anything about computers) so it's the blind leading the blind.

Well there's no shame in having a weak imagination these days. You can get help with that from us more creative folk.

But seriously, computers are used in all aspects of educational life. A kid who is computers literate will have much better potential.

Good deal. Put in SSD and movce HDD to DVD tray. Buy now before all gone.

The lenovo has a twice as fast single core performance which can be important in certain tasks. The i3 will feel markedly faster than the 50% overall benchmark figures would suggest

The lenovo would benefit massively from using an SSD, however.

Great deal, thanks.

How difficult is it to put a ssd in?

Spot on, but you'll not be believed on here.

Currently £299.99 new at Argos so this seems a great price. Heat!

If you have to ask, it's difficult

Some help here. http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/ssd-upgrade-tutorial

Not as easy as some. Why they can't just give us a panel on the back to change the HDD and memory baffles me. I get why they do but it still annoys me - I've got a cheap HP which requires similar surgery and whilst not difficult the process was something I'd rather not undertake.

What's argos returns like for c&c on refurbished?

Been wanting a 13" laptop/chromebook for light Web working. But considering a 15.6

But thinking a windows laptop for win 10 xbox streaming. I've been undecided on what I want, but was wondering buy, test return, anyone know of that's possible?

Will Adobe Photoshop an premiere work ok on this

will Ubuntu perform better than windows on this?

What's this like for gaming? CS GO/ Sims/ Rocket League?

Yes as it would on all Windows 10 machines. More than enough RAM and processor.

There is a video of Sims 4 running on an i5 with same integrated graphics here, seems fine tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojv7uh_ALrk

This one is i3 though right? Will there be much difference?

Review suggests there is an HDMI connector but isn't shown on Ebay listing. Does it have one? Thanks.

I would like to wipe it and put Linux Mint or Ubuntu on there.
Could I use the Windows 10 licence again to reinstall it as a dual-boot machine ?

​thanks I would've tried if it was a few screws to remove wouldn't fancy taking it to pieces

I'm not expecting much difference, but will test once I get it.

Ordered for my wife who just needs a laptop for her business (MS Office etc). Amazing specs for the price. Thanks Op. Heat added.

Can anyone recommend a case for this?

I wouldn't say I'm making myself look stupid? Given neither of these laptops are suitable for gaming, give me an example of better general use over the Asus please? Will applications like Word and Chrome open quicker? Enlighten me on what you can do on the Lenovo that you can't on the Asus.

This is also a dual core and the Asus is a quad core. You're saying that dual is better?

would I be able to do video editing on this?

be happy with what you have , there's little point in mine is better than yours here tbh.

​ubuntu performs much much much better than windows on my old nc10. it depends on the drivers. given this laptop is old they should have got round to building them. for a brand new laptop windows can be better as linux is open source and not yet supporting everything.

Lenovo is the biggest brand of laptops (by sales volume).

Hot indeed, we buy Lenovo's at work and granted they aren't as good as the IBM ThinkPads that everyone raved about but the Chinese are getting their act together quickly like with everything else.

Buy it, use it and enjoy!

Stoopid price.

Have some heat

​The Asus is a quad core pentium.

Just noticed the resolution isn't that great, think I'll try to find a compact desktop as portability isn't that important to me and will give me more for my money

Great find! Have been looking for a basic laptop with those sorts of specs but up until now couldn't find a known brand one for under £240! Have now ordered this but never bought refurbed before, so hoping it's not a letdown!

Which reviews are you reading?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Ideapad-i3-5005U-Graphics-Windows/dp/B019WBDLUS - 191 reviews with avg 3.9/5 stars. Wouldn't really say that's dire?

Hey OP,

Great find! Bought, as I want to install Linux on it.

Have some heat and cheers :smiley:

Think you should go to specsavers,looked at the reviews on amazon and they are good, not dire as you put it.

all gone

Out of stock!

Would this run football manager 2016 on a decent setting? I'm presuming the integrated graphics card would mean the 3D engine would not run or at least run properly? Thanks

This was new for £199 at Tesco not long ago, the only difference was 4GB RAM and 500GB HD, same i3 processor. Think it is £249 now.

This was new for £199 at Tesco not long ago, the only difference was 4GB RAM and 500GB HD, same i3 processor. Think it is £249 now.

The integrated graphics is quite good, although would be better if the MB had two memory slots instead of one for dual memory speed. About the same level as an old Geforce 8800GS which was near top of the range about 8 years ago, so games before 2010 would work very well on highest settings.

- Which site did you use here for the information?

​should do as my asus t100 does with weaker processor. though I turn resolution down to get 3d graphics

agreed Ubuntu is amazing! got it installed on my packard bell easynote 2008 and still going strong!
would you suggest keep the windows on the lenovo then?

Targets and tests, targets and tests.....to hell with imaginative play, eh! :disappointed:

Bought this, thanks!

It's obvious this Lenovo is better than your Asus. You only have to look at it's processor. In a micro second I know i3 5005U is superior to Pentium N3700. Why on earth would Intel make a Pentium processor (for a laptop not desktop) better than the next level processor.

Seems to be back in stock

Bad screen, bad keyboard, flaky build.
Look at the 1 star reviews.

Ok, none of the 3 things I listed are to do with the CPU or RAM of HDD so performance.

People just need to wise up to the fact they are paying £180 for a laptop that is worth at best £180. a laptop that has basic quality and usability issues.

Argos are not stupid, they are not a charity.

There is no risk,if it's no good just send it back or take it in store to return

I didn't know you could return to store, on the listing it states Return Postage is paid by the buyer when returned within the 30 days.

I have bought refurbished laptops from Argos previously and have been happy with the product condition, I just think this particular laptop is not a good buy.

​I'm not disagreeing with you, but you feel so strongly I should have gone for it over the Asus, that I'd like to know what performance differences I'd see between then both. Do you know what I'm going to use it for? Do you know for a fact it'll out perform the Asus on a massive scale on tasks it's only capable of coping with?

You don't seem to want to answer. And it's cheaper because the parts are lower quality.

Bought this but just read a few reviews on amazon and double checked I had the right laptop version and 2 things to point which might be an issue to some people-it says laptop has a fixed, non-removable battery and no 5ghz wifi connection only 2.4ghz only.

Having second thoughts now and you cannot return to the store as it says on the argos/ebay help pages but only return it within 30 days at your own expense.

Dude this site is called HOT UK DEALS. So it's about saving money or getting the best for your money. I gave you the best advice you could have got on here at the time before this deal went oos. I told you the best thing for you to do is buy this laptop and return the Asus because your getting a better laptop + you would have also saved £40. Your way of thinking was that Asus brand is better than Lenovo (wrong) and that quad core is better than dual core (wrong again).
It doesn't matter what your using the Asus for, if this Lenovo laptop is better and cheaper as well (bonus) then your getting more for your money right? Your basically paying more for less and your in denial or not that clever or both.

​Basically, you can't answer my question.

Yeah great, a better CPU. Rubbish build quality, possibly no removable battery, 2.4ghz WiFi. Just because it has a better CPU doesn't mean it'll out perform the Asus with its slightly better processor. Yeah it's cheaper and has a better CPU on paper, but that doesn't mean it'll be a massive improvement over the Asus. That's what you're not understanding.

If there was half the ram in the Asus, I'd be agreeing with you, but they are both low end systems and neither of them are built for video editing and gaming, so you're best to look at build quality too.

Reading about the Lenovo, I'm relieved I didn't go for it now. Just because something is cheap, doesn't mean it's amazing.

​Look at the reviews online...

It's nice that you've convinced yourself you've not wasted forty quid, it's nicer that you've not convinced anyone else to do so

​Again, you're not looking beyond a better CPU so let's just leave it there.

​Again, pure focus on the CPU. If the rest of the laptop is rubbish, then it's inferior.

Is the hard drive better performing? What's the ram speed?

If the hard drive in the Asus is better than the lenovo, I wouldn't say the overall product is better just based on one thing.

No you aren't looking beyond the fact that you've bought the other one.

They both support the same ram speed, but yours is maxed at 8gb and this can go to 16gb.

If it suits you to pretend that yours has a vastly faster hard drive then yep it's practically an ssd, it whizzes along like it's setting new transfer speed limits.

You've given up on facts and are now resorting to hoping that parts are faster.

You don't have the capacity to learn. How many people on here told you otherwise (every comment on here pretty much been spot on) but you have failed to take anything in. You need to try to be more open to learning and taking in information.

You buy it because it's a better laptop and better value meaning that you got more for your money. Why on earth would anyone (apart from you) pay more for an inferior laptop, your on the wrong site.

So long as he's not convincing anyone else it's not really a problem.

And this one is now oos having sold 325 with the other still in stock having sold 80ish.

He's changed the goalposts yet again to be just about the looks. And he's right that he's not likely to notice it's slow...

In 6,12...18 months when things start taking longer and longer to boot up/shutdown or to load up at least he can say to himself I got myself a pretty looking laptop (his next response will be that he will put in a SSD to improve performance!!)

The back cover does look rather nice in fairness...


Could put one in this and probably another 8gb of ram (which is likely overkill) for same price as that one though...

What's not to like http://www.tesco.com/direct/lenovo-100-15ibd-156-intel-core-i3-4gb500gb-black-laptop/261-4785.prd?skuId=261-4785&pageLevel=sku&icid=spiffy_lenovo%20ideapad%20100_261-4785_lenovo%20ideapad%20100
I thought when Tesco were selling the 4GB + 500GB HDD version @ £200 I thought not bad looking laptop, just as pretty as the Asus.

Computers are totally amazing for imaginative work. You just need to make sure your kids balance creative production with their consumption of content. And obviously balance computer use with their real world pursuits.

Can a ssd be fitted in place of the dvd drive to keep the 1tb hdd and run ssd as boot drive?

mine just came,
1st laptop I've actually bought,
no power supply !

Mine has just been delivered,White HP laptop with a lower spec. WTF???? :-)

mine arrived, not had chance to try it but looks the biz! My charger was down the side

Mine arrived. Looks great, now to clear out the crap that came on it.

Mines arrived. As described. Charger was in the box (down the side)

Mine arrived too. Sound is barely audible. Returning it

Mine arrived - using a 17.3 inch Dell Dimension with a 1920x1080 screen and this Lenovo's display seems pretty blocky on text compare to what I'm used to. My Dell has a similar processor (3rd gen i3) with similar size RAM and HD but I think the screen on this is too poor for me. It's glossy and I reckon the resolution on this is too low for a 15 inch screen unfortunately. My 11 inch Acer chromebook looks fine at this res, but I think 15'' is a screen size too far. Going to return it - wish it was 11 or 12" :disappointed:

Condition from Argos was excellent, box marked refurb but almost as new but sceen isn't workable for me, otherwise it would be a keeper.

How easy is it to open and put a ssd into?

Yeah the sound is garbage but we've just connected it to the bluetooth speaker

Having seen the YouTube video... Not at all easy.

I am getting no sound at all from the speakers ?

Have you got a link to the youtube video? I have been trying to google and can't find one...

Mine came couple of light scratches on the top. Internal speakers are awful, but its cheap enough for the daughter. Cant moan for the price.

This one should do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYQu--I5Lk

Many thanks for that. Looks quite complicated.

oos. someone please let us know if it ever comes back

My friend at work also received one of these. He said they might as well of not had speakers built in as they're quiet and it's like having a 99p pair of headphones plugged in with only one earpiece working. He also said the WiFi is dreadful if he goes in the garden with his laptop, so is tied to use it in the house. He also said the screen wasn't great and looked a bit washed out. He's already requested to send it back.

I received my Asus in which members said I was "an idiot" and "thick" for paying £40 more to get a laptop that didn't have the Lenovo's i3 CPU in... I'm over the moon with my ASUS. Once I got the bloatware off and clean installed Windows 10, it's quick and a pleasure to use. The laptop has 'sonicmaster' audio and sounds great for portability.

The battery has lasted me all day so far and I have 47% left after installing my software on and off all day. Screen is brilliant - watched HD trailers on Youtube and they load and play instantly. WiFi is 3 out of the 4 bars when in the garden well away from the router.

The laptop was also spotless and hadn't been used.

So yeah, I spent £40 more on a laptop with a lower spec CPU. But I got a solid working laptop that I'm pleased with. Just because it was more, doesn't mean the Lenovo was better value. People on here and my work friend reporting unhappiness with it - scratched, dreadful speakers, no charger. You get what you pay for.

It was also stated by one of these 'users' who acted childishly in their discussion, that why have Argos eBay sold 300+ units against the ASUS that had sold no where near that - the answer is probably that the Lenovo has been returned many more times by customers, meaning that Argos eBay have more available units to sell, over the ASUS that they don't have many returned meaning not many refurbs to sell.

Anyway, I just thought I'd state my opinion.

My laptop was delivered yesterday and opened today. Extremely pleased with it, it looks brand new as I cant see any marks on it whatsoever. Not gave it a full workout yet however internet browsing and watching videos feels seamless. Very happy with my purchase. thanks OP!

mine came nicely in box stating i3 processor, when checked in computer setting description says Intel celeron processor, 4gb ram. not happy will be returning it. waste of time.

looked mint though but inferior processor & memory.

Mine arrived today, great laptop for the money. Is i3 with 8gb ram. Taken out the hard drive and put in a SSD.

Why no illumination on the caps lock button??

Received mine this morning. Absolutely mint condition so I'm really happy with it.

If anyone needs to make a Windows 10 USB installer, this guide works. I had issued until I formatted the USB stick as FAT32 rather than NTFS. https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-10/Installing-Windows-10-through-an-USB-PEN/m-p/2087951/highlight/true#M345

As this item seems to be back in stock, can anyone who has got one confirm whether or not it has an HDMI port?

Yes it has an HDMI port, along with SD slot, ethernet, 1xUSB2 and 1xUSB3 port.

Returning mine as the screen has four pixels that are stuck. Besides that it was an immaculate unit.

Mine arrived the other day, a few light scratches on the lid but other than that it's fine. Installed Kaspersky and usual stuffs including Sims 4 which runs just fine with this even on the integrated graphics. Pretty good deal all in all if you ask me.

Like new, no marks etc

After activation updating etc (took a little time) on old hdd (so windows 10 remembers my activation info)
I then Upgraded/replaced slow 1tb with 256gb SSD and did a clean install with win10 which auto activated (old 1tb drive kept safe for day or two in case error)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYQu--I5Lk
boots in about 10 seconds

I am interested in upgrading the wifi to a dual band ac version, any advice on compatibility for lenovo? as the 'tuncs' use whitelists i beleive.

Yeah I noticed that it wouldn't pick up the 5Ghz band on my Superhub, but considering this is for the daughter I don't see that being an issue, she doesn't do heavy downloading or file transfers.

Mine is good apart from a few light scratches on the top and one scratch on the bottom. Build quality is low so ok for around the house, I don't think it would survive long on its travels. Value for money wise worth a maximum of £200.

Back in stock now