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Powerful gaming PC! CSL Speed 4718uPro (Core i7) incl. Windows 7 Professional - computer system with Intel Core i7-4790 4x 3600 MHz, 1000GB SATA, 16GB DDR3 RAM, ASUS Mainboard, GeForce GT 730 4096 MB, USB 3.0, WiFi - the ultimate quad core gaming PC!
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nublets2k
14 Jun 163#3
"Powerful"
slayermatt
14 Jun 163#2
Listing needs more info, but looks okay. Reviews mention a Intel Core i7-4790 as the i7 which got for about £260 on their own. Wish companies would just leave the graphics card out completely if they're going to put **** like a 730 in. The 4790's integrated graphics probably does a similar job!
retrend
14 Jun 163#1
That graphics card won't allow for much gaming but it's not a bad deal.
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retrend
14 Jun 163#1
That graphics card won't allow for much gaming but it's not a bad deal.
slayermatt
14 Jun 163#2
Listing needs more info, but looks okay. Reviews mention a Intel Core i7-4790 as the i7 which got for about £260 on their own. Wish companies would just leave the graphics card out completely if they're going to put **** like a 730 in. The 4790's integrated graphics probably does a similar job!
nublets2k
14 Jun 163#3
"Powerful"
aa64xyz
14 Jun 16#4
can someone edit post can't seem to from mobile thanks
cardboardandroid
14 Jun 161#5
Great deal for a i7 4790 and some other great specs, but with a gt 730 its certainly not a gaming PC
rhodyate
14 Jun 16#6
HOT
PR1
14 Jun 16#7
Any idea on PSU? If it'd handle a 480 on release I may be tempted here!
candyman86
14 Jun 16#8
pair this with a 1070, would you get a good gaming pc?
Spence1115 to candyman86
14 Jun 16#11
Yes, very. I'd suggest grabbing an SSD whilst you're there though, to make things really fly. Not sure how powerful the power supply is on this though. Worth finding out first if it could support a 1070.
suchitmehta7
14 Jun 16#9
looking at the graphic card i think "powerful gaming" should be removed from the title..
Spence1115
14 Jun 161#10
Why does a 4GB version of this card exist?
PR1
14 Jun 16#12
spec elsewhere from a search suggests "Power Supply: 350W silent power supply" - i.e. tiny no-name junk psu, probably need replacing to put a decent gpu in there :disappointed:
HedgyHoggy to PR1
14 Jun 161#15
Yep, you'll need a 650w psu to run a decent gpu, so another £60, plus £200 for the card. This is a good cpu worth £250, bundled with £130 of junk.
spannerzone
14 Jun 16#13
It's a German seller so just something to consider regarding after sales service, decent price for the specs and ignore the 'powerful gaming' statement, it's probably otherwise ok....but cheap case and psu etc.
MBeeching
14 Jun 161#14
Should be quite good once you've bought a new case, PSU, GPU, heatsink and SSD... :stuck_out_tongue:
PR1
14 Jun 16#16
yeah good deal, just not for gaming
johncas
14 Jun 161#17
You don't need an i7 for gaming so save £100 there and build it yourself using quality components, trust me it'll be worth it in the long run!
ChinesePate
14 Jun 162#18
no you don't need 650W psu to run "decent" gpu. no single gpu (bar behemoths like 7990/Titan) would require that much power
Alnilam81
14 Jun 161#19
To trick gullible fools who shop by buzzwords only.
Houstieboy
14 Jun 16#20
"Price going up soon"....aye ok
K1LLER HORNET
14 Jun 16#21
"Powerful gaming pc!" :laughing:
dijital
14 Jun 16#22
Yeah built the thing recently to play Doom, but I just cant be bothered to play the game lol.
HedgyHoggy
14 Jun 16#23
You don't technically need it, but a cheapo 400w unit is not worth the risk. The psu is the most important component, so give it 50% more power than you need, it will run cleaner/cooler/quieter and last a lot longer. Always spend £10 per 100w, minimum.
dijital
14 Jun 16#24
It is actually mate, im using this deal which brings the final vale fee down by alot. uts expires tonight.
A 500W PSU would be fine for this, and yeah its more about the quality of the PSU by now, since you want it to actually be able to do what it says without blowing up at any point.
Houstieboy
14 Jun 16#26
Lol
dijital
14 Jun 16#27
The HUKD post got removed anyway, they couldn't get a cut of the money lol.
Houstieboy
14 Jun 16#28
It's all about the hukd "picks" these days...
dijital
14 Jun 16#29
Indeed.
reg66
14 Jun 161#30
why put 'powerful' in the title when it isn't
MadonnaProject
14 Jun 16#31
Nice.
michaelb1967
14 Jun 16#32
Very good price
Danze1984
14 Jun 16#33
Seems an odd mix of components to call it a gaming PC. Would be miles better off getting the 4690K and an actual decent graphics card.
tek-monkey
14 Jun 16#34
Not that fussed about gaming, wondering how it would fare for moderate video editing.
PROGAM3R
14 Jun 16#35
Should be able to depending on the MOBO you might even be able to put a 1080.An SSD and maybe a MOBO depending on whats already there would be able to run many games on high>ultra(MOBO doesn't affect performance) I personally would change out the PSU if its an unbranded one or if i am upgrading things (may be 400w)
miaomiaobaubau
14 Jun 16#36
not sure why the price should go up, as it stands will be a task to sell it at this price
aa64xyz
14 Jun 16#37
thats the description on Amazon not mine
Sp0oner
14 Jun 16#38
Very good cpu at over 10k benchmark and at this price would make for a good vm lab with 16gb ram to start off with. Add in some more disks and another 16gb ram and a decent home lab.
paulpso
14 Jun 16#39
or for people who use photoshop. you could have 100s of layers on a high res image open to work with eating loads of vram with gpu acceleration but not need a powerful card, just lots of texture memory
kotr
14 Jun 161#40
You couldn't be more wrong. I am playing Pac man right now at 100fps
chimpyglassman1
14 Jun 16#41
well, the cpu is OK...
paneds
14 Jun 16#42
I have a gtx 650 it plays games
masterplanner
14 Jun 16#43
nice spec for the price
xela333
14 Jun 16#44
That's much better than this card though
xela333
14 Jun 16#45
Motherboard doesn't matter. It's got a pci express slot which is all you need.
BungalowBill
14 Jun 16#46
No reviews left in over a year, that seems odd?
Agharta
14 Jun 16#47
This CPU + that GPU have a combined TDP of ~235W so in total the whole system will struggle to pull more than 300W.
pc2009
14 Jun 16#48
Amazon discount code:£10 - 30PRIMENOW is doesn't work !! do you have other code?
Lloydinio
14 Jun 16#49
You would have to see how much space there is in the case and you will probably need to get a new power supply
foes4you
14 Jun 16#50
What games do they play on a gt 730 ? scrabble HD ?
Vikingtons
14 Jun 16#51
Any word on the PSU?
beasty54
14 Jun 16#52
The motherboard doesn't matter???? So the one thing that everything in the PC connects to and you think it doesn't matter.... Lol
crazygoldfish
14 Jun 16#53
The i7 and 16gb ram is good, gfx not great, can't imagine the motherboard, psu, or case being great quality.
Good if your on a budget and want a system that you can upgrade when your budget suits.
To make it good gaming pc you will need to put another 250-300ish for better psu and gfx.
Whatever you do don't scrimp on the psu....... Cheap psu,s are dangerous.
afroylnt
14 Jun 16#54
Best deal I have seen for a desktop for a while..
skyda
15 Jun 16#55
powerful gaming looool
joshy_b5
15 Jun 16#56
*sigh* It worries me that people fall for these ads, voted cold that is nowhere near a 'powerful gaming PC', that will hardly run most games on medium settings due to its setback graphics card and outdated DDR3 RAM, the CPU is far too good for such a bad build.. please dont fall for this ad.
Noclouds
15 Jun 16#57
Good old Amazon and their generally unhelpfully brief technical details.
"Lithium Battery Weight 5 Grams"
I am not sure when considering whether to buy a PC or not, anyone has enquired how much the motherboard's cmos battery weighs? If anyone has the full specification for this one, it would be good know what's on offer, thanks.
jayzzy1
15 Jun 16#58
powerful. yea
hukd_addict
15 Jun 16#59
semi true.. PSUs are generally most efficient at 50% load, so if you game a lot, then 650w would be the way to go. However, best to check specs of any PSU and get a decent one, EVGA do the supanova g series with a 10 year warranty! (I have the supanova 850w myself)
TERMINATOR_v2
15 Jun 161#60
A Gaming PC for slither.io
hukd_addict
15 Jun 16#61
mostly true! nothing wrong with DDR3. No bottleneck whatsoever.
My view on this is it's actually quite a good deal. For the CPU, Case (if it is standard ATX) and Windows license alone. Graphics card definately has to go, probably the PSU too, motherboard should be ok as the CPU is Haswell. .Even on PCI-E 2x the 1070 would be ok. On the face of it smells like a good deal to me. However, the fact they put "powerful" and listed the gt 730 as 4096mb (the max is 2048 on this card) makes me wonder what else they might be lying about.
edit: the gt 730 is pci-e 2.0 - perhaps the mobo is too.
MYHeer
15 Jun 16#62
Was in search for a video editing pc on a budget.. But now having my doubts if this will any good.
Can anyone recommend a decent Machine?
afroylnt
15 Jun 16#63
I think there is a good chance it will be fine for video editing; good CPU & a decent amount of RAM. Adding an SSD might also help.
GS01
15 Jun 16#64
Cold, neither a gaming PC nor good value for money.
Sellers like CSL should be ashamed of themselves for marketing it in the way that they have done.
They exploit people that think CPU is everything, more ram is going to make it faster and that GPU's with more vram are better (regardless of model).
1. i7-4790 is a waste for a budget gaming build. You'd rather go i5 4690 or i5 6500/6600 or FX-8320 (or FX6300 if budget is really tight)
2. GT730 is crap and 4GB VRAM on that is wasteful. Should be looking at gtx 960 or R9-380 or R9-280X (or R7 370 if budget is really tight)
3. 16GB ram is again unnecessary, you only need 8GB.
Not perfect by any means but a lot better for gaming than whats been offered by CSL. If you're comfortable building your own PC then that's even better because you can create a build that fits perfectly within your budget and use good quality parts, often times pre-built computers will use cheap components. You could even use pcpartpicker to prepare a build and pay some one local to assemble it. I've seen people offerring these services for £25-£50.
ali254
15 Jun 16#65
Does anyone know how much these parts make up on PC part picker
afroylnt
15 Jun 16#66
Just think of it as a good value desktop - not a gaming PC I agree.
16GB is useful for jobs such as video / picture editing.
TYC
15 Jun 16#67
Powerful for app/software development perhaps, but not gaming...
You could certainly make a better list as the motherboard I chose had 2 ram slots and I chose 4 x 4GB sticks just to get a rough price. I have a feeling this deal might be a price mistake but it;s been this price since January so says Camel3x
Not for gamers but could be ideal for video editing, image editing etc.... not every demanding user is a gamer after all.
aa64xyz
15 Jun 16#69
so you saying buy a less powerful machine for more money
skyda
15 Jun 16#70
there's not much difference in ddr3 and ddr4 ram currently... games don't take much advantage of DDR4 over DDR3. But the rest I agree with.
skyda
15 Jun 16#71
16GB of ram isn't unnecessary lmao, there are many games out there which really take advantage of ram. 16gb is standard for gaming nowadays.
GimmeMoney
15 Jun 162#72
Too Many people appear to be missing the point here...
It is a HELL of a lot of PC, for WHATEVER purpose you want it for!
It will Work in all areas, and it will play games MORE than adequately..
If people Could afford bigger PSUs, better Graphics cards, surely they wouldn't be looking at this...
It IS what it IS... It is a high spec (NOT cutting edge) All purpose PC that is more than capable of playing most games out there, and it is CHEAP with a 24 month warranty!
HOT HOT HOT!
aa64xyz
15 Jun 161#73
thanks for that lot of Pc snobs commenting
it is what it is
ai79man
15 Jun 161#74
Spot on. Adding to that not everyone wants to play game on their pc. I went for it for my web development projects as my currently HP laptop is struggling with many applications open. In my case a good graphics card will be a waste of money, this is good enough.
mchairmaster
15 Jun 16#75
Seriously, if I was to buy this and swap out the PSU, case and hard drive to SSD, and graphics card would this be worth what you get for the money? I have all of those parts already on my existing machine and I'm overdue an upgrade. If it's worth it for the mobo, ram, processor I'd go for it (and could maybe sell the rest, maybe)
seany1977
15 Jun 16#76
Not a bad price. The GFX card lets it down a bit.
seanmorris100
15 Jun 16#77
"Gaming"
hukd_addict
15 Jun 16#78
Hi, I mentioned already this was a good deal for the cpu, case and windows license alone. you want the bits out of this, what will you be taking, cpu, mobo, ram, hdd, and the windows license of course. yep, worth it.
GAZar
15 Jun 16#79
'Budget'
mchairmaster
15 Jun 16#80
Very tempted in that case, is the motherboard able to support DDR4 RAM? It's either something like this or I go ahead and buy a new processor, mobo and RAM. (This one you get a free harddrive, wireless card, etc)
hukd_addict
15 Jun 161#81
what an earth are you waffling on about. You've really overcomplicated this. Is this a good deal? Well, I can't buy the parts that make up this machine for less, infact it'll cost quite a bit more, and it's prebuilt which saves me time, and I can potentially just throw a better g/card in there if I want, or if I don't want to game, I can use this for pretty much anything else because A) it's a good CPU with 8 threads - good for a vm lab b) lots of ram, for whatever productivity work. Wind your neck in will ya, people buy macbooks with 16gb a ram just to surf the web and use facebook!
hukd_addict
15 Jun 161#82
Have you even read this thread? What do you want DDR4 ram for specifically? Speed difference in DDR3 and DDR4 in negligible in 99.9% of cases. Your throwing money away concentrating on DDR4. I don't know what motherboard is in the machine, so I can't tell you more on that. My only concern is a motherboard that is a) not ATX standard meaning you won't be able to take it out the case, and b) the PCI-express is only 2x instead of 3x for the graphics card, but then that is only a consideration if your wanting to make it a gaming pc, and even then it's not THAT big of a deal on 2.0 perfectly serviceable machine as it is for at least a year I'd say, maybe longer. I run a 3770k and it's top banana. Older than this even.
The point is, this is a great deal for price to performance - and that's the key for anyone on a normal budget. You need to spend enough to get value for money, buying cheaper parts your throwing money away. Mr Linustechtips can explain better....
This machine is low cost, and you get value for money. Sure if you want to upgrade it, or game on it at all, you'll have a little more expense and hassle, but as a platform to add to, I can't see any issue with purchasing this.
mchairmaster
15 Jun 16#83
I see well thanks for the info. I think I'm going to give it a miss and invest slightly more on a proper ATX form factor motherboard and processor/ram independently. Sits better with me anyway as warranties are usually different. Good deal nonetheless! Just that I have all the other parts already
adamwilko007
15 Jun 16#84
gone expired
SPRR0W
15 Jun 16#85
"Powerful"
flibblesan
15 Jun 16#86
"Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
rebus_forever
15 Jun 16#87
Unless you play 2D games that gpu wont be much use, the core components however arnt bad, if you are a wannabe gamer on a budget this could be the core of a system you improve if you lack the skills to fully assemble a computer from scratch, not a bad deal but not accurately listed as a powerful gaming computer.
GS01
15 Jun 16#88
No, I'm telling you if you need a gaming rig, buy a gaming rig.
also has Wi-Fi antenna you need to screw in at back
aa64xyz
18 Jun 16#95
no box just cds
pc2009
18 Jun 16#96
Thanks for info. there is a DVD windows 7 recovery media for windows 7 products SP1, but it's not " Windows 7 Professional "
aa64xyz
18 Jun 16#97
I upgraded to Windows 10 as soon as I got it takes 2 to 3 hours to download and install
pc2009
18 Jun 16#98
My pint is that "where is the Windows 7 Professional CD" as they advertised and you see in the picture next to the PC in case if the PC needed a fresh reinstall in the future.
aa64xyz
18 Jun 16#99
it's installed and you have Recovery CD which will install it if you need it you also have win 7 serial no
aa64xyz
18 Jun 16#100
it's installed on pc with licence no on side of desktop the CD will reinstall for you
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Powerful gaming PC! CSL Speed 4718uPro (Core i7) incl. Windows 7 Professional - computer system with Intel Core i7-4790 4x 3600 MHz, 1000GB SATA, 16GB DDR3 RAM, ASUS Mainboard, GeForce GT 730 4096 MB, USB 3.0, WiFi - the ultimate quad core gaming PC!
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http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/1-3-final-value-fee-ebay-2462838
So there.
That's much better than this card though
Motherboard doesn't matter. It's got a pci express slot which is all you need.
Good if your on a budget and want a system that you can upgrade when your budget suits.
To make it good gaming pc you will need to put another 250-300ish for better psu and gfx.
Whatever you do don't scrimp on the psu....... Cheap psu,s are dangerous.
"Lithium Battery Weight 5 Grams"
I am not sure when considering whether to buy a PC or not, anyone has enquired how much the motherboard's cmos battery weighs? If anyone has the full specification for this one, it would be good know what's on offer, thanks.
My view on this is it's actually quite a good deal. For the CPU, Case (if it is standard ATX) and Windows license alone. Graphics card definately has to go, probably the PSU too, motherboard should be ok as the CPU is Haswell. .Even on PCI-E 2x the 1070 would be ok. On the face of it smells like a good deal to me. However, the fact they put "powerful" and listed the gt 730 as 4096mb (the max is 2048 on this card) makes me wonder what else they might be lying about.
edit: the gt 730 is pci-e 2.0 - perhaps the mobo is too.
Can anyone recommend a decent Machine?
Sellers like CSL should be ashamed of themselves for marketing it in the way that they have done.
They exploit people that think CPU is everything, more ram is going to make it faster and that GPU's with more vram are better (regardless of model).
1. i7-4790 is a waste for a budget gaming build. You'd rather go i5 4690 or i5 6500/6600 or FX-8320 (or FX6300 if budget is really tight)
2. GT730 is crap and 4GB VRAM on that is wasteful. Should be looking at gtx 960 or R9-380 or R9-280X (or R7 370 if budget is really tight)
3. 16GB ram is again unnecessary, you only need 8GB.
You'd rather go for something like this:
http://www.freshtechsolutions.co.uk/amd-fx-6300-4-1ghz-1tb-8gb-1600mhz-r9-380-4gb-core-computer-gaming-pc.html
Not perfect by any means but a lot better for gaming than whats been offered by CSL. If you're comfortable building your own PC then that's even better because you can create a build that fits perfectly within your budget and use good quality parts, often times pre-built computers will use cheap components. You could even use pcpartpicker to prepare a build and pay some one local to assemble it. I've seen people offerring these services for £25-£50.
16GB is useful for jobs such as video / picture editing.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/92ft6X
You could certainly make a better list as the motherboard I chose had 2 ram slots and I chose 4 x 4GB sticks just to get a rough price. I have a feeling this deal might be a price mistake but it;s been this price since January so says Camel3x
Not for gamers but could be ideal for video editing, image editing etc.... not every demanding user is a gamer after all.
It is a HELL of a lot of PC, for WHATEVER purpose you want it for!
It will Work in all areas, and it will play games MORE than adequately..
If people Could afford bigger PSUs, better Graphics cards, surely they wouldn't be looking at this...
It IS what it IS... It is a high spec (NOT cutting edge) All purpose PC that is more than capable of playing most games out there, and it is CHEAP with a 24 month warranty!
HOT HOT HOT!
it is what it is
The point is, this is a great deal for price to performance - and that's the key for anyone on a normal budget. You need to spend enough to get value for money, buying cheaper parts your throwing money away. Mr Linustechtips can explain better....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=5d714449-6843-4d9d-a2e6-80ebc204a819&feature=cards&src_vid=xp6ltBCMDCE&v=sph6cjJeRdI
This machine is low cost, and you get value for money. Sure if you want to upgrade it, or game on it at all, you'll have a little more expense and hassle, but as a platform to add to, I can't see any issue with purchasing this.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
same spec 300 more
also today http://m.gearbest.com/graphics-video-cards/pp_321087.html
same spec 300 more
and today http://m.gearbest.com/graphics-video-cards/pp_321087.html
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Powerful-gaming-4718uPro-Windows-Professional/dp/B00IKKUDAE?ie=UTF8&tag=hotukdeals03-21