I've put this in the gaming section as this product is really only of interest to those who have older retro consoles and ideally want a CRT to use with them.
Probably one of the last sources of a new CRT set. It features a pure flat tube and built in dvd recorder. It's a basic Chinese set but with a good feature set. As far as I know there is no freeview tuner just the old style analogue type.
Stock running down low now so last chance I think. I have no connection with seller.
Important retro features.
1. Works with lightguns etc from older consoles.
2. Features a RGB scart input.
3. Can record gameplay onto DVD+R, DVD+RW discs. Not sure if it will record in RGB quality or composite only though.
4. Can be made multi-region for dvd playback
5. 60Hz frame rate compatible.
6. Gives improved images with older consoles over flat screen panels
7. 0ms latency. Has no ability to process images. Literally the signal goes in and immediately goes to the guns of the tube so many games will play better and be more responsive.
8. A rare brand new CRT so the tube has its full lifespan ahead of it.
9. Provides a headphone socket.
10. On screen menus and service menu access for altering screen.
11. Works with RF output from earlier 8/16 bit computers and consoles.
12. Compact size meaning great for a retro corner.
13. Side AV terminals for composite/audio.
Ideal for;
Playstation 1 and 2
Nintendo NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube and wii
Megadrive, 32X, Mega CD, Saturn and Dreamcast
Original Xbox
plus many other devices.
Also other later hardware possibly running emulation that will benefit from 0ms latency for the emulated games.
It's do-able, but your neighbour might not like it. :stuck_out_tongue:
moneybag
22 Jun 169#2
Don't forget the remote
sterlingdeal
22 Jun 167#117
Latest comments (181)
marukyuu
21 Sep 16#181
Anybody know how to access the service menu for this? Been desperately trying to find out.
montana78
4 Jul 16#180
I don't mind getting a 36 inch flat screen crt for sitting arcade machine set-up
bonzobanana
25 Jun 16#179
TV supports RGB but it must have a RGB to s-video conversion circuit as you can adjust brightness, contrast, colour, sharpness etc while in RGB mode.
DVD recorder section records in composite as far as I can tell at least in RGB mode. If the scart socket supports s-video then its possible it will record in s-video for those sources. However on mine at least while in RGB mode it seems to cause the composite recordings to flicker a bit where as straight composite mode doesn't. So if you are recording game footage it seems better to use composite sources. This was with an original xbox.
poopscoop
25 Jun 16#178
PAL was 50hz and NTSC was 60hz. CRT TV's can handle both.
bonzobanana
25 Jun 161#177
I've used an upscaler box in the past and it introduced additional input lag on top of the televisions own input lag and the result was games didn't play as well. Better quality televisions often have good upscaling anyway but the more processing of the image the more lag created. LG's often have great image processing but introduce more lag because of it. Even using game modes on many televisions only reduces lag doesn't eliminate it.
Many older console's games were designed around zero lag display devices (50hz tvs) and wired controllers also with 0ms lag to create very responsive games. Introducing additional lag makes these games less playable.
I have some further information about the set.
In addition to the full scart input and side AV ports there is a rear audio out set of phonos and a digital pcm coaxial output.
lizzy90
24 Jun 16#176
How do you mean? Can you get a converter for the old consoles?
lizzy90
24 Jun 16#175
Has anyone tried using a light fun on a modern TV. Thinking Virtual Cop on the Saturn or the PS1 guns for Time Crisis and Die Hard etc? Not dusted them off for years and guessing they won't work?
I know PS1 and PS2 games look a bit grim as is with a scart in a HD TV.
kidrock123
23 Jun 16#174
nice
timz
23 Jun 16#173
Back in stock :P
poopscoop
23 Jun 16#172
Retro gaming doesn't look good on an LCD
paulpso
23 Jun 16#171
Yes. You still see aliasing on crts. but low res + not 1:1 with the screen res blurs it out a bit.
ST3123
23 Jun 162#170
Yeah but are they likely to even be working after they have been chucked out and potentially left out in the elements? CRTs are pretty delicate due to the rather complex internals and when getting rid of them people typically aren't very gentle as they aren't expecting them to be used again....
I was sorely tempted by this deal but in the end the budget brand just put me off and the fact I don't need it right now. If it had been say £30-£35 I'd have probably taken a punt on it anyway though I doubt that will happen as they seem to be getting through them reasonably fast for a niche product.
If only I could find a 14" Sony Trinitron in this kind of condition!
alexanderthenotsogreat
23 Jun 16#169
Even your local tip. People dump out their crt tv's each day
bonzobanana
23 Jun 16#168
More stock available. Looks like this may well be a brand new recently manufactured product rather than old stock. Still many CRT set manufacturers on alibaba.
farhanacram
23 Jun 16#167
LOL @ This thread...... those wall mount n remote pics are NUTS!!! :stuck_out_tongue:
ham_fan
23 Jun 16#166
A television? In the dinosaur DEPARTMENT?
Weird museum.
furbix
23 Jun 161#165
Two questions, what the hell is it and Can I use it with my PS4? I like the box shaped design of it and for £40 seems like a bargain for a second tv.
gary74
23 Jun 161#164
Saw this in a museum in the dinosaur department
veedubjai
23 Jun 16#163
If only it had a Freeview decoder built-in.
bouncy99
23 Jun 16#162
they should have been paying you to take these, would have cost them a fortune to scrap
vig1lante
23 Jun 16#161
out of stock now :disappointed:
omneity1
23 Jun 161#160
Cold, it's not 4K and no VHS
keluar
23 Jun 16#159
Unfortunately, I have search everywhere online and not found the code for service menu.
ra786
23 Jun 16#158
Agreed. Since anyone would only want a CRT for very specific reasons these days, you can get a lot better for £45. You'd probably be able to get one for free .
format
23 Jun 16#157
heat, saw this as a joke post when i clicked on it but i actually wouldn't mind a CRT for time crisis, still have my lightguns in a box somewhere ! (and the games and fully working ps1 & 2). 15" is pretty damn small but i guess beggars can't be choosers.
would still hit the charity shop or tip rather than pay £40 but this post has kinda made me want one again.
moneysavingkitten
23 Jun 161#156
:laughing: I have plenty of old consoles and I still don't want one. I remember cash converters wouldn't give us 99p for these :laughing:
kentc81
23 Jun 16#155
People usually give these away for free.
retrogamer
23 Jun 161#154
Bomberman. That's a blast from the past (pardon the pun). Super Bomberman was great on SNES.
bulbasaur888
22 Jun 161#153
COLD NOT 4K AND NOT A GOOSE CHASE
r3dhotukdeals
22 Jun 16#152
Only 1 left!!!
Chasloyal
22 Jun 161#151
I used to be able to launch cans and even cutlery at the telly every time his socialist highness Jesus Christ the second Tony Blair appeared on the box back in CRT times :wink:
Nowadays the best you got for Chairman Jezza whenever his ugly hairy Stalinist boat pops up on the LED/LCD flat panel is a tea towel or a couple of socks :disappointed:
A CRT will last longer than an LED/LCD? What utter rubbish!
max84
22 Jun 161#146
i sold a 32" crt sony on ebay last year i got £10 for it then a week later the buyer lodged a paypal dispute saying it doesn't work complete bull i had to refund them as well, not worth the hassle
max84
22 Jun 16#145
15 inch is tiny
CelicaGT-Four
22 Jun 16#144
my parents have a perfectly working 28" Panasonic crt flatscreen they were going to give away, is it actually saleable?! I had just assumed it was worthless
sparkymf
22 Jun 16#143
Don't forget to check convergence on these bad boys!!!! and for those daring enough you should lick the anode boom!!!!!
The_Circle
22 Jun 16#142
Is it a car?
ryouga
22 Jun 16#141
I got one last year, only £10 on ebay but the delivery costs were like £80 just so I could have a setup in bedroom with the CRT for late night movies (never liked LCD for movies in bed) and retro gaming
To be honest despite being 720p and Samsung was a huge dissapointment, I did tweak the geometry with the hidden menus but the colour was dull on it but maybe a way to fix it.
My 37 inch 480p component input tv with built in 5.1 outputs and optical inputs stomps any tv I have ever owned, the only downsize is it weights 75kg so is a 2 man job lifting it and I need a HDfury to get pc to work on it OR a older graphics card (thats what I went for in end, 3770k i7 cpu with 8 gig ram but only a old 280 GTX as it has component out)
However its picture quality is unrivaled, only issue with using it with pc is as its only 480p modern menus in software are often cut off sides of screen and cant be adjusted so I just wire in the hdmi out to the same monitor as my main pc and switch between inputs.
Is a little complicated but nowhere near as you think.
minimoney
22 Jun 161#140
They came right after the 60's and just before the 80's, lasted 10yrs and won't return for 54yrs.
minimoney
22 Jun 16#139
Does this heater have a fan and will the colour match my teasmade?
papasb
22 Jun 16#138
I feel for the person who posted this. I am weirdly in the market for a CRT (ideally wide screen) tele. Size wise, 14" or above. I have a PlayStation, N64 and NES I want to hook up to it. I have a light gun with Duck Hunt which doesn't work on my current flat screen... Price feels a bit punchy though.
brookysm
22 Jun 16#137
Absolute rubbish! The TV display principal is exactly the same way as the original bowed CRT tubes lines are drawn across the screen quicker than the human eye can see!
Kaosfusion
22 Jun 16#136
42 quid! Nip to your local recycling centre and pick up 10 for £5......or Freecycle surely you weren't actually looking to purchase one new??!!
Ross81
22 Jun 16#135
Cold no videoplus
Roph
22 Jun 16#134
You couldn't give it to me for free.
bonzobanana
22 Jun 16#133
I believe there is a service menu but don't know the procedure to access it at the moment. Maxim is just a rebrand its knowing the real manufacturer under the label. It's too modern to have pots for screen adjustment I would of thought so it will require access to the service menu. Also screen position may vary by individual product.
Screen uniformity is one of the weaknesses of CRT it has to be said compared to modern flatscreen panel televisions.
bonzobanana
22 Jun 163#132
That's easily fixed, just watch a documentary about the seventies, wait for a short period of time afterwards then remember details of the program that described the seventies and hey presto you now can remember the seventies despite not being alive in the period.
Here is something to help you get started.
keluar
22 Jun 16#131
I have bought one of these less than 12 months ago.be aware the screen position is slightly out and you can not adjust the position. It plays NTSC via RGB as I understand. DVD player can be a bit noisy. Very rarely you will see a stereo 15inch CRT on the market. The cover of the TV is made of weak plastic which can bend easily
crazyal
22 Jun 16#130
You had me at Fastext.
MrRee
22 Jun 16#129
HOT TIP!!!!!!
Go down to your local tip and pick these up for £2!
Dip Yer Bread!
aibon
22 Jun 16#128
Unfortunately retro gaming means one thing, 4:3
DarrylJohn
22 Jun 16#127
I don't remember the 70s. I wasn't born
bonzobanana
22 Jun 161#126
Multi-region hack
On the remote
Press DVD/TV
OPEN TRAY
Press Setup
Press menu arrows: Right,Left,Down, Up
Press Display
Now you should see the region coding set at 002
Press 0 for multiregion
Press Enter
Insert a region 1 disc
FTCom
22 Jun 161#125
Walk away, walk away, unknown brand, buy a Matsui instead... :sunglasses:
zx636r
22 Jun 16#124
Jeremy Corbyn is in da house.....
zx636r
22 Jun 161#123
I thought it was Tim Peakes space helmet....
benlondon
22 Jun 16#122
Calm down marx
dijital
22 Jun 16#121
No.
sofiasar
22 Jun 16#120
i wouldn't buy one again, too bulky and I prefer the screen resolution on LCDs or led's.
the other difference is these will last more years as the LCDs etc can last one year, plus throw something on the screen it will smash.
mikejbry
22 Jun 16#119
beast, I still have my little 14" Goodman CRT somewhere at my dads, I gamed with all of my consoles on that bad boy!
spannerzone
22 Jun 16#118
I love CRT televisions, especially wall mounting them
sterlingdeal
22 Jun 167#117
Gort1951
22 Jun 16#116
Why buy one when you can find them dumped on streets.
eggbarker
22 Jun 16#115
cold only 1 hdmi........oh wait a minute
ST3123
22 Jun 16#114
What did you use with it and how did you find the image quality on it?
paulpso
22 Jun 16#113
It's called being low resolution. blurry
sofiasar
22 Jun 16#112
iv still got mine, as new condition too.
think it might go to ebay
aLV426
22 Jun 16#111
Heat for providing the best example of how to post a deal on HotUKdeals!
Bades
22 Jun 161#110
Heat just to see the delivery person struggle with it lol!
Hagga27
22 Jun 164#109
Apparently its also 4K...
...in weight!
Stealth_Fox
22 Jun 16#108
True, I've got a 21 inch 4:3 up in the loft too (Panny). I wouldn't game on anything larger though, the picture quality would be horrendous. To be honest, 21 inch is probably pushing it a bit. And then you've got to find somewhere to put the bloofy thing :smiley:
Cosmic_Mastermind
22 Jun 161#107
'Tis true. You need the round pixels of an analogue television to correctly display the graphics of retro game.
decoy7
22 Jun 16#106
If it was anywhere else...flames
Semiskimmed
22 Jun 16#105
I bet you lit up the dancefloor too!
kruger99
22 Jun 16#104
My son is trying to track down the Yellow King. Voted hot.
The British Heart Foundation tends to have loads of these CRTs for cheap usually about £15, you just need to find the right one with proper RGB SCART, the SONY brand is a good try though
Spasho
22 Jun 161#99
Damn right! Where's the Betamax?? This VHS crap is so outdated!
Spasho
22 Jun 16#98
That seems rather overpriced for a small 15" but at least it doesn't weigh a ton like the big ones.
adrianwaring
22 Jun 16#97
I disagree you can't 100 percent turn off a crt will always win. Unless you go for a gaming monitor although I think they have a picture processing time even though they quote 0ms
jldevoy
22 Jun 16#96
No, crt are analogue and its dirt cheap...youd need a freeview box or cable/sky.
markweatherill
22 Jun 16#95
No Freeview tuner? Does that infringe some rule these days?
Enterpart
22 Jun 161#94
Enterpart
22 Jun 16#93
bouncy99
22 Jun 163#92
i am with the program, im replying to this post on one of these
BigBen75020
22 Jun 16#91
don't want it even if it's free lol
Enterpart
22 Jun 16#90
please everyone hot vote this so it gets on deal of the day
because...why not :smile:
Blade_Runner
22 Jun 16#89
CRT ..... LOL :smiley:
937666
22 Jun 163#88
Only threw our old one out the other day.
Dead_Pixel
22 Jun 16#87
Something that you can usually turn off???
Care to explain that :man:
Kiwimaddog
22 Jun 162#86
Will I be able to play "Bamboozle" on this?!
ST3123
22 Jun 16#85
I don't think many (if any?) made it to the UK, though they were quite common in the US for a while. I always thought they were a nice idea, like you say the combining of two old/new technologies but I believe the reality was different as I have seen a lot of complaints about them (screen geometry and such) though I couldn't comment myself as I've never been fortunate enough to own or even see one....
dereklogan7
22 Jun 16#84
We all know you can get a second hand one cheap but there's not many new ones at this price out there.
Get with the programme. :smiley:
WiggyDiggyPoo
22 Jun 16#83
If you need a CRT, and want one larger than this, try Brittish Heart Foundation Home & Electrical stores - they normally have a load to choose from.
Or you could combine the tech's and buy a HD-CRT, that way you can play all your consoles old and new on 1 TV :sunglasses:
czrsiNk
22 Jun 161#82
Shame you have to go into the room next door to put your DVD in :smiley:
themadgoose
22 Jun 164#81
Cold. Not HiSense.
bonzobanana
22 Jun 16#80
A true comparison of when a 60Hz game is run at 50Hz but not an optimised game for PAL vs an optimised game for NTSC. Not that there are many of those. I used to have a Megadrive with 50/60Hz switches and you could make the UK versions of games run at 60Hz because it was the same code for most games.
If you run ps3 games at 480i and 576i which are downscaled from their original 720p resolution (most games) then 576i looks higher resolution even if the frame rate is less and movement is slightly more jerky.
bouncy99
22 Jun 16#79
to be fair, your local British Heart Foundation shop will be full of second hand ones for cheap.
For picture quality and colour reproduction, PAL was the better system.
It may seem flicker now but that was what we had. Though to be fair my last CRT was a Philips 100HZ 32PW9523, the dogs danglies :smiley:
Anyone who is into retro gaming knows that Import consoles specially Japanese imports are very very important and they run NTSC.most higher end CRT tvs support all systems PAL NTSC and Secam and almost every TV set outside UK Europe support them all.that's why lack of support of NTSC equals being neutered in retro gaming prospective.
s24adm
22 Jun 169#73
It's do-able, but your neighbour might not like it. :stuck_out_tongue:
hgthompson
22 Jun 16#72
Just ordered... great price for a brand new CRT set.... Just need to dig out my Betamax VCR to hook up to this now!
s24adm
22 Jun 16#71
it's not so much being able to SEE it but notice it while gaming. in a fast paced game when lightning reactions are required, any delay that isn't yourself is very noticeable and very frustrating :P . Personally not experienced it in console gaming but suffered it plenty in my PC gaming days.
aibon
22 Jun 16#70
Lol PAL was most definately not the better system. Have you watched a PAL CRT latelely? Think you will be shocked at how flickery the image is at 50hz compared to NTSC 60hz. Guess we got used to it but its amost seizure inducing.
czrsiNk
22 Jun 16#69
Funniest thread I've seen for days. Heat for the sheer amazeballs of it.
aibon
22 Jun 16#68
But Maxim? Terrible cheapo make, would rather go to a charity shop and pick up a Trinitron for £20
Fixitbob
22 Jun 16#67
Is this a colour or B&W TV?
jldevoy
22 Jun 16#66
Anyone tried one of these on a c64 or atari2600? the last crt i had wouldn't work with old stuff despite having the relevant connections, all i got was a fuzzy snow covered image.
SlightlyFoxed
22 Jun 16#65
Funniest thing I've seen this week. I actually spat tea and belly-laughed.
Thanks!
SlightlyFoxed
22 Jun 16#64
WTF? Have they had these in storage for 10 years?
Zuulan
22 Jun 16#63
I assume I need one of these when I get my PS4K?
I can't believe how flat it is. Amazing.
Oneday77
22 Jun 16#62
Oh I fully get the point of why an NTSC TV is wanted. We had a Japanese Import PlayStation before they were on release here. Ridge Racer was great on it :smiley:
My point was more to do with the TV technology. PAL was a better system for displaying images. Unfortunately Gamers suffered at the hands of Hardware and Software developers, short sightedness.
shakerstevens
22 Jun 16#61
For what its worth, I used to have this TV about 7+ years ago, albeit the DVD combo (not DVD writer) version, very good for what it is. Good quality screen with about as flat a front you can get for CRT.
tea_hawk
22 Jun 161#60
The point for retro gaming is that most nintendo or sega games were made for NTSC, and not optimized when converted to PAL, so these games play 20% slower than the designer intended in PAl format. Not to mention the fact that there are hundreds of great games (including almost the entire PC engine library) which never got a PAL release at all.
I've also found that many older CRTs, particularly ones from before silver became fashionable, will only display NTSC in black and white over composite.
Ninbox4
22 Jun 16#59
Finding a 'new' CRT TV is hard enough - but this is also a great price too!
Heat added op. :smiley:
dave859
22 Jun 16#58
Was looking for an upgrade
Oneday77
22 Jun 16#57
CRT TV's aren't exactly know for people taking on holiday. So to refer to a PAL only set as Neutered is a little harsh.
Yes NTSC ran faster at 60Hz but it was also a lower definition format.
NTSC - Never The Same Colour
bonzobanana
22 Jun 16#56
They probably are still making them but I don't think anyone is still importing them. This is some of the last stock of a CRT model I think that was first sold 2007/8.
Obviously there are still many CRTs about but I've struggled to find examples with light use and near perfect pictures. Often the tube's are well worn and provide disappointing image quality. My experience most older CRTs now are too worn and not suitable plus the older sets often have faults with age. I thought I'd found a brilliant deal on a portable sony Trinitron but the image was awful and left it.
Cherried
22 Jun 16#55
not bad but literally picked this up on gumtree for £0
bonzobanana
22 Jun 16#54
Interesting I've never experienced this using FST tubes in the past. I know high definition and 100hz processing CRT sets won't work at all or so well but I thought as long as its simple 50hz it should work. I wonder what the issue is. I seem to remember some later light gun arcade cabinets had flat screens and possibly even rear projection CRTs. I thought the critical thing was 50hz processing or lack of processing I should say.
Gort1951
22 Jun 16#53
Took three of us to move my Sister's 36" Panasonic crt tv.
Gort1951
22 Jun 161#52
I still do.
voodooboard
22 Jun 16#51
There are so many used CRTs floating around, sometimes for free. Anybody who buys this Chinese crap for retro gaming should be ashamed of themselves, all you are doing is encouraging the Chinese to keep making them and polluting the planet. It's not even a good set.
ST3123
22 Jun 16#50
In my experience most UK CRTs will play NTSC just fine, at least most of the ones I've owned during the 90s/00s (barring an old 80s portable, which you wouldn't really expect to) have supported it fine. Think some sets are a bit fussy about NTSC over composite/RCA but I think virtually all sets with RGB Scart can take it fine using the Scart....
DBloke
22 Jun 16#49
Flat screens are usually not that good for gun games
Tequila
22 Jun 16#48
Large ones yes but its very rare to find 15 inch flat tube ones.
I had a Sony Wega Flat tube 15 inch back in 2000 I really regret selling it as it was and still would be perfect for retro games consoles.it was stereo and supported NTSC as well.
Tequila
22 Jun 16#47
The real question is does it support NTSC or is it neutered like most CRT TVs of UK market with only PAL?
mark_trev
22 Jun 161#46
ST3123
22 Jun 161#45
Personally, I can very much see the appeal as I love retro gaming on my Megadrive, SNES, PC Engine etc all of which display infinitely better on a CRT TV. The DVD recorder is a very nice touch as most budget portables back in the day only had a DVD player, no recorder. Sure even the DVD recorder is a bit outdated these days but a really smart way to capture a bit of retro gaming action while you play without the faff of a capture device or the horrible flicker you get pointing a camera at a CRT.
A really hot deal for something that is becoming increasingly rare and will probably soon disappear altogether.
I'm really tempted to buy one, the thing is I don't really need it as I have a good Sony 28" Widescreen, which has a lovely picture though it is about 10 years old though only actually used for about 4-5 years of that time. Plus I have two old Commodore 1084 monitors I got for next to nothing though as they are around 30 years old give or take, I very rarely use them now but I guess they are probably on their last legs unless they had VERY considerate previous owner/s.
So though I already have lots of CRTs, this is appealing just to buy, test and then keep in the box for guaranteeing I have a CRT for retro gaming for many years to come but I would struggle finding the space for it and it's still £45, though it's cheap for brand new.
Aside from that I'm not sure where one would stand with warranty? The seller gives 30 days, Paypal buyer protection can go up to 180 days though I'm not sure they would do anything after the 30 day seller guarantee. I take it the manufacturer guarantee is non-existent, not even sure if maxim are still around?
tumbleweed34
22 Jun 16#44
Have we really become such a nation of snobs that we can't see value in something if it doesn't conform to some pathetic capitalist standard?
Making jokes about something that you have that others may not be able to afford isn't funny. it's pathetic.
cantonbean
22 Jun 16#43
not everyone wants large screen CRT for a reason. My mate offered me his 32 inch flat Panasonic CRT.... great TV but didn't have enough space for it...I do have enough space for the 15 inch version though
ham_fan
22 Jun 161#42
Came in here thinking it was one of those "funny funny" outdated items that someone has found still for sale, and comically shared with us all.
Then I read points 1-13. Hope my Quidco tracks.
pannan
22 Jun 16#41
Yep, but easy to source large screen crt s for free/cheap now.
ST3123
22 Jun 16#40
Neither of which would be likely to get you a new set though.
pdug175
22 Jun 16#39
What is it?
friiza
22 Jun 16#38
For Dreamcast it would be better to get an old monitor, use the VGA output for improved resolution.
MJM
22 Jun 161#37
That's like a babies toy..
Tanweeralqarni
22 Jun 16#36
No. Its flat
maxrlingham
22 Jun 16#35
Or this.
Stealth_Fox
22 Jun 16#34
That's pretty much what we all did back in the day though. A real challenge would be 8 player Bomberman on the Sega Saturn on a 15" screen :smiley:
omz89
22 Jun 163#33
Go to your local dump and find one for free :wink:
ace9094
22 Jun 16#32
Actually for an old TV BNIB this is great value... Classic xbox running Coinops and you are set !!
Head to youtube and search Coinops 7 - (8 is due soon)
saintagnes
22 Jun 1615#31
Wall mountable
johnthehuman
22 Jun 161#30
If you're convinced you can see a latency of single digit ms you've lost the plot.
pannan
22 Jun 16#29
Agreed. Great post but small screen size for gaming. Try multi-player on mario kart on a 15''!
maxrlingham
22 Jun 161#28
Not as good as this!
cantonbean
22 Jun 16#27
I have reclaimed my 15 inch Panasonic flat screen CRT from my little nephew for this exact reason! Going to hook up N64 and gamecube to it....never did complete zelda....
jp1843
22 Jun 162#26
Sega Dreamcast, House of the Dead & two light-guns............that was the true definition of multiplayer gaming <3
kowalski
22 Jun 16#25
alternatively head to your local car boot sale over the weekend, or check freecycle
mrvot
22 Jun 16#24
"Ideal for;
Playstation 1 and 2
Nintendo NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube and wii
Megadrive, 32X, Mega CD, Saturn and Dreamcast
Original Xbox
plus many other devices."
Or you could just get an upscaler with HDMI output for your current TV.
amis1975
22 Jun 16#23
Ideal for Rob the Robot on the NES
He wont work on LCD screens :smiley:
bouncy99
22 Jun 161#22
you buy a gramophone, and try to convince everybody that it sounds better than tape?
mrvot
22 Jun 16#21
Probably wouldn't support Duck Hunt Zapper
Lewman
22 Jun 16#17
Agreed. Anyone who uses MAME or console emulation need to have a CRT. The games simply look better.
dijital to Lewman
22 Jun 16#20
A LOT better, CRT screens had natural anti aliasing built in.
fishmaster
22 Jun 16#19
You know when you're taking Retro too far when...
baseley09
22 Jun 16#18
Assume this will support NTSC over composite. S-Video would have been a nice touch as well but can't have it all right.
anthony212
22 Jun 161#15
will this have hdmi arc?
bouncy99 to anthony212
22 Jun 16#16
that would be a big fat no, lol
littld
22 Jun 16#14
I'd just like to thank you for the thorough post. Might be a bit niche but I can see the need.
M1sterDeeds
22 Jun 161#13
Takes me back to the 70's. I used to wear Flares.
greysquaill
22 Jun 161#8
Is there some weird time warp on HUKD?
Someone posted a deal for VHS tapes the other day that went hot.
(Joking aside, I heard that CRT are better for some gaming that requires low response times. You don't get that with most modern TVs now.)
bouncy99 to greysquaill
22 Jun 161#12
The latency is mostly caused by the image processing of the television, something that you can usually turn off, or use a dedicated PC or console input setting that tries to bypass the processing and reduce latency. its the same reason why the old light guns wont work, they relied on a crt refresh rate that had a predictable frequency, something that isn't as predictable in modern tv's.
comshoplesce
22 Jun 16#11
why is this in gaming? :smiley:
MrMazzyBoy
22 Jun 16#10
Heat added because I love anything retro games related. :smiley:
Experiment
22 Jun 16#9
The flat screen ones dont work well with Light guns, which is one of the main reasons to own a crt
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Opening post
Probably one of the last sources of a new CRT set. It features a pure flat tube and built in dvd recorder. It's a basic Chinese set but with a good feature set. As far as I know there is no freeview tuner just the old style analogue type.
Stock running down low now so last chance I think. I have no connection with seller.
Important retro features.
1. Works with lightguns etc from older consoles.
2. Features a RGB scart input.
3. Can record gameplay onto DVD+R, DVD+RW discs. Not sure if it will record in RGB quality or composite only though.
4. Can be made multi-region for dvd playback
5. 60Hz frame rate compatible.
6. Gives improved images with older consoles over flat screen panels
7. 0ms latency. Has no ability to process images. Literally the signal goes in and immediately goes to the guns of the tube so many games will play better and be more responsive.
8. A rare brand new CRT so the tube has its full lifespan ahead of it.
9. Provides a headphone socket.
10. On screen menus and service menu access for altering screen.
11. Works with RF output from earlier 8/16 bit computers and consoles.
12. Compact size meaning great for a retro corner.
13. Side AV terminals for composite/audio.
Ideal for;
Playstation 1 and 2
Nintendo NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube and wii
Megadrive, 32X, Mega CD, Saturn and Dreamcast
Original Xbox
plus many other devices.
Also other later hardware possibly running emulation that will benefit from 0ms latency for the emulated games.
Main spec as below
15” True Flat 4:3 Picture Tube
Nicam Stereo and Fastext
100 Channel Programmable + AV
UHF / VHF Multisystem Tuner (Pal I / BG / DK / Secam)
PLL Synthesiser Tuning
Full Auto Tune, Store and Channel Labelling
DVD Deck with DVD+R / +RW Recorder
Playback Compatibility DVDR+ and DVDR-
DVD / CD / CDR / CDRW / MP3 / JPEG Compatible
5-Speed DVD Fast Search
4-Speed DVD Slow Motion
Multi Angle Viewing (Software Dependant)
Still Frame with 6-Setting Zoom
3D Sound Effect on DVD
Full On Screen Display
Child Lock
Headphone and AV Sockets
SCART Socket
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It's do-able, but your neighbour might not like it. :stuck_out_tongue:
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DVD recorder section records in composite as far as I can tell at least in RGB mode. If the scart socket supports s-video then its possible it will record in s-video for those sources. However on mine at least while in RGB mode it seems to cause the composite recordings to flicker a bit where as straight composite mode doesn't. So if you are recording game footage it seems better to use composite sources. This was with an original xbox.
Many older console's games were designed around zero lag display devices (50hz tvs) and wired controllers also with 0ms lag to create very responsive games. Introducing additional lag makes these games less playable.
I have some further information about the set.
In addition to the full scart input and side AV ports there is a rear audio out set of phonos and a digital pcm coaxial output.
I know PS1 and PS2 games look a bit grim as is with a scart in a HD TV.
I was sorely tempted by this deal but in the end the budget brand just put me off and the fact I don't need it right now. If it had been say £30-£35 I'd have probably taken a punt on it anyway though I doubt that will happen as they seem to be getting through them reasonably fast for a niche product.
If only I could find a 14" Sony Trinitron in this kind of condition!
Weird museum.
would still hit the charity shop or tip rather than pay £40 but this post has kinda made me want one again.
Nowadays the best you got for Chairman Jezza whenever his ugly hairy Stalinist boat pops up on the LED/LCD flat panel is a tea towel or a couple of socks :disappointed:
LOL
To be honest despite being 720p and Samsung was a huge dissapointment, I did tweak the geometry with the hidden menus but the colour was dull on it but maybe a way to fix it.
My 37 inch 480p component input tv with built in 5.1 outputs and optical inputs stomps any tv I have ever owned, the only downsize is it weights 75kg so is a 2 man job lifting it and I need a HDfury to get pc to work on it OR a older graphics card (thats what I went for in end, 3770k i7 cpu with 8 gig ram but only a old 280 GTX as it has component out)
However its picture quality is unrivaled, only issue with using it with pc is as its only 480p modern menus in software are often cut off sides of screen and cant be adjusted so I just wire in the hdmi out to the same monitor as my main pc and switch between inputs.
Is a little complicated but nowhere near as you think.
Screen uniformity is one of the weaknesses of CRT it has to be said compared to modern flatscreen panel televisions.
Here is something to help you get started.
Go down to your local tip and pick these up for £2!
Dip Yer Bread!
On the remote
Press DVD/TV
OPEN TRAY
Press Setup
Press menu arrows: Right,Left,Down, Up
Press Display
Now you should see the region coding set at 002
Press 0 for multiregion
Press Enter
Insert a region 1 disc
the other difference is these will last more years as the LCDs etc can last one year, plus throw something on the screen it will smash.
think it might go to ebay
...in weight!
because...why not :smile:
Care to explain that :man:
Get with the programme. :smiley:
Or you could combine the tech's and buy a HD-CRT, that way you can play all your consoles old and new on 1 TV :sunglasses:
If you run ps3 games at 480i and 576i which are downscaled from their original 720p resolution (most games) then 576i looks higher resolution even if the frame rate is less and movement is slightly more jerky.
:sunglasses:
It may seem flicker now but that was what we had. Though to be fair my last CRT was a Philips 100HZ 32PW9523, the dogs danglies :smiley:
It's do-able, but your neighbour might not like it. :stuck_out_tongue:
Thanks!
I can't believe how flat it is. Amazing.
My point was more to do with the TV technology. PAL was a better system for displaying images. Unfortunately Gamers suffered at the hands of Hardware and Software developers, short sightedness.
I've also found that many older CRTs, particularly ones from before silver became fashionable, will only display NTSC in black and white over composite.
Heat added op. :smiley:
Yes NTSC ran faster at 60Hz but it was also a lower definition format.
NTSC - Never The Same Colour
Obviously there are still many CRTs about but I've struggled to find examples with light use and near perfect pictures. Often the tube's are well worn and provide disappointing image quality. My experience most older CRTs now are too worn and not suitable plus the older sets often have faults with age. I thought I'd found a brilliant deal on a portable sony Trinitron but the image was awful and left it.
I had a Sony Wega Flat tube 15 inch back in 2000 I really regret selling it as it was and still would be perfect for retro games consoles.it was stereo and supported NTSC as well.
A really hot deal for something that is becoming increasingly rare and will probably soon disappear altogether.
I'm really tempted to buy one, the thing is I don't really need it as I have a good Sony 28" Widescreen, which has a lovely picture though it is about 10 years old though only actually used for about 4-5 years of that time. Plus I have two old Commodore 1084 monitors I got for next to nothing though as they are around 30 years old give or take, I very rarely use them now but I guess they are probably on their last legs unless they had VERY considerate previous owner/s.
So though I already have lots of CRTs, this is appealing just to buy, test and then keep in the box for guaranteeing I have a CRT for retro gaming for many years to come but I would struggle finding the space for it and it's still £45, though it's cheap for brand new.
Aside from that I'm not sure where one would stand with warranty? The seller gives 30 days, Paypal buyer protection can go up to 180 days though I'm not sure they would do anything after the 30 day seller guarantee. I take it the manufacturer guarantee is non-existent, not even sure if maxim are still around?
Making jokes about something that you have that others may not be able to afford isn't funny. it's pathetic.
Then I read points 1-13. Hope my Quidco tracks.
Or this.
Head to youtube and search Coinops 7 - (8 is due soon)
Not as good as this!
Playstation 1 and 2
Nintendo NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube and wii
Megadrive, 32X, Mega CD, Saturn and Dreamcast
Original Xbox
plus many other devices."
Or you could just get an upscaler with HDMI output for your current TV.
He wont work on LCD screens :smiley:
Someone posted a deal for VHS tapes the other day that went hot.
(Joking aside, I heard that CRT are better for some gaming that requires low response times. You don't get that with most modern TVs now.)
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