I hope everyone is aware of what a potentially dangerous chemical this is to the environment and people. Glyphosate weedkiller (also sold as Roundup by Monsanto) is a particularly insidious chemical to human and animal health with evidence linking it to cancers and other diseases and is teetering on the brink of being banned in Europe because of this. Its use skyrocketed and was promoted when Monsanto, who bred various food crops genetically modified so as to be resistant to this weedkiller. They then grew the GM crop and killed all other competing plants by indiscrimate use of the glyphosate. And 'we' also wonder why GM crops may be unhealthy to us and the environment?:

[url=Health problems linked to Roundup]http://ecowatch.com/2015/01/23/health-problems-linked-to-monsanto-roundup/[/url]

[url=toxicity of glyphosate]http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/30/glyphosate-toxicity.aspx[/url]

Hotukdeal forum members are quite likely already to have glyphosate in their bodies based on a study in 2013 that tested people in 18 european countries, even if we've never used it ourselves becauses it has entered the food chain:

[url=glyphosate found in urine of tested people in 18 European countries]https://www.foeeurope.org/weed-killer-glyphosate-found-human-urine-across-Europe-130613[/url]

Volunteers were all city-dwellers and included vegetarian and non-vegetarian diets.For the UK, 70% of tested samples showed positive for this claimed 'biodegradeable' weedkiller. Most of those people will never even have used it in their gardens.

It is on the verge of being recalled as the EU refuses to extend its licence:

[url=Recall of Monsanto's Roundup likely as EU refuses limited use of glyphosate]http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/06/recall-of-monsantos-roundup-likely-as-eu-refuses-limited-use-of-glyphosate[/url]

I hope that this will help to inform people who aren't aware. I bought some Roundup years ago without knowing and it's been sitting - used only once - while I figure what is the best way to dispose of it which is environmentally sound. Anyone able to suggest how to get rid of it safely without it having any chance of entering the ecosystem?

As an aside, what am I doing wrong when posting links as they're not appearing as working links? Thanks

And if we come out we'll be in such an economic mess that a Glyphosate ban will be the very least of your problems.

Prime example of why amateurs should not use professional products.

Anybody who is qualified would know never to mix a pesticide with diesel! There are specific adjuvants that are designed to increase pesticides efficacy.

Japanese Knotweed, I know, is a **** to control and almost impossible to eradicate. I don't profess to being an expert, but, for smaller areas, it's a case of dig up the roots as best as possible. I've had to do this when I managed a garden bordered by another full of knotweed. It was a yearly activity as new growth appeared. Physical barriers - slabs for example sunk into the ground can help to contain this movement. It is another example of man tipping the balance of nature with poor understanding of the consequences as knotweed was first introduced as an ornamental plant. I'm sure googling will provide other possibilities, even though the bottom line may not be control without effort.

May not help to solve this problem, but in my gardening I prefer to work with rather than against nature. I hand weed, grow plants to out compete unwanted invaders. Ornamentals that don't want to thrive, I replace with something that does. I don't use weedkillers or insecticides. I find well grown plants are usually fairly disease resistant and don't begrudge most insects and animals a share in my garden. It all helps in the bigger scheme of things :-)

Had a job recently located on a local industrial estate (small units), next to an old railway track, about 50 sq metres of Japanese Knotweed that had overgrown to a height of about eight foot. It was like a jungle. Liberally applied two applications of Gallup hi Activ Glysophate to the advised strength (this was in September on two different sunny days). Within a month, the leaves had turned dark red/black and then it died off (for the winter I assumed). Went back in the April to apply on what I anticpated would be the new shoots coming up, there were only three shoots left. It had killed the rest and the scene was one of desolation. I note environmental concerns expressed in thread, but fully recommend it for Japanese Knotweed treatment and can't imagine that there is an effective alternative that would be better for the environment. Obviously, use with caution as it will kill any plants it comes into contact with.

To the poster who didn't like my amateur advice to mix with diesel so it sticks to the shiny leaves and is absorbed. I run an establishment with ornamental gardens and last year paid for my head gardeners ticket. He maintains mixing with diesel is best. I tried it at home and can state 100% it works. Sorry but it was professional advice from someone with a recent ticket. Sometimes experience tells you what works better than the professional solution you prefer. As I said, not environmentaly friendly but it works and I have deer, hedgehogs, ducks and many birds now using the area I cleared. Amateur advice completed.

I diluted this at 200ml per 10 litres as directed. I've been disappointed with the results - after two days there is absolutely no change to the weeds. When I used Roundup in the past almost all weeds were dead within 2-3 hours.

Japanese knotweed needs years of professional attention to eradicate.

How does this compare to roundup ultra 300

I got a massive ivy or something that has it's roots in a nighbour's house but he refuses to kill it. As a result, it now partly covers the gardens of six houses. And, in summer leaves and flowers grow on the strong branches. As I do not have access to the root, if I spray this on the branches, will it somehow kill the plant ?

Red diesel is a good weed killer between 40p & 50p a litre

can't believe people think buying this is a good idea. It doesn't just kill weeds, it kills all wildlife too! Look at this current petition against this product - since it has been used on Camden Square in North London, all the birds, squirrels, everything disappeared. https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/ending-the-use-of-poisonous-horticultural-chemicals-on-camden-square-and-beyond

Cigarettes causing cancer was constantly debunked when I were a lad.

Dangerous carcegenic stuff avoid

I thought Japanese knotweed was impossible to kill off?

I hope everyone is aware of what a potentially dangerous chemical this is to the environment and people. Glyphosate weedkiller (also sold as Roundup by Monsanto) is a particularly insidious chemical to human and animal health with evidence linking it to cancers and other diseases and is teetering on the brink of being banned in Europe because of this. Its use skyrocketed and was promoted when Monsanto, who bred various food crops genetically modified so as to be resistant to this weedkiller. They then grew the GM crop and killed all other competing plants by indiscrimate use of the glyphosate. And 'we' also wonder why GM crops may be unhealthy to us and the environment?:

[url=Health problems linked to Roundup]http://ecowatch.com/2015/01/23/health-problems-linked-to-monsanto-roundup/[/url]

[url=toxicity of glyphosate]http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/30/glyphosate-toxicity.aspx[/url]

Hotukdeal forum members are quite likely already to have glyphosate in their bodies based on a study in 2013 that tested people in 18 european countries, even if we've never used it ourselves becauses it has entered the food chain:

[url=glyphosate found in urine of tested people in 18 European countries]https://www.foeeurope.org/weed-killer-glyphosate-found-human-urine-across-Europe-130613[/url]

Volunteers were all city-dwellers and included vegetarian and non-vegetarian diets.For the UK, 70% of tested samples showed positive for this claimed 'biodegradeable' weedkiller. Most of those people will never even have used it in their gardens.

It is on the verge of being recalled as the EU refuses to extend its licence:

[url=Recall of Monsanto's Roundup likely as EU refuses limited use of glyphosate]http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/06/recall-of-monsantos-roundup-likely-as-eu-refuses-limited-use-of-glyphosate[/url]

I hope that this will help to inform people who aren't aware. I bought some Roundup years ago without knowing and it's been sitting - used only once - while I figure what is the best way to dispose of it which is environmentally sound. Anyone able to suggest how to get rid of it safely without it having any chance of entering the ecosystem?

As an aside, what am I doing wrong when posting links as they're not appearing as working links? Thanks

Hi Shengis. Zombiefish77 is half correct. To use this product, by law, you must have completed the following modules:

NPTC Certificate of Competence Pesticide Foundation Module PA1
This module is the first step towards achieving the NPTC Certificates of Competence in Safe Use of Pesticides. Assessment is by on-line computer-based test, and takes place at the end of Day 1 training. This module must be completed before progression to other levels of certification.

NPTC Certificate of Competence Pesticide Hand Held Applicator Module PA6
This course is for those intending to apply pesticides with a knapsack or other hand operated sprayer.

It generally takes around 3 days to complete both modules. Prices for them both combined vary throughout the country. Where I live (North East of Scotland), the price of the PA1 is £200 and the PA6 is £290 (so £490 for both).

However, it is not illegal to sell to a non-qualified user. So everyone on HUKD is perfectly within their legal right to purchase Gallup Hi-Aktiv Highly Concentrated Glyphosate Professional Weed Killer. The only thing is that the end user must be qualified by law.

Until recently, there was the "Grandfather Rights" rule, which allowed non-PA1 and PA6 qualified people to use such professional pesticides, providing that they were born before 31st December 1964. However, due to European legislation, that rule expired on 26th November 2015.

If you do decide to use this then just be aware of the risks. This is a harmful chemical and it just takes one little act of negligence (i.e. the nozzle not fitted correctly, inadequate PPE, incorrect concentrate to water ratio etc - even things like incorrect storage) for something to go wrong. Basically, it's things that people will take for granted, which could result in an accident. If you do your research and take precautions, you'll be fine.

If you are at all not confident about using this then the following product is legal for non-professionals to use:

https://www.pitchcare.com/shop/amateur-and-domestic-weed-killers/asteroid-biocare-weedkiller-1l.html

Although I would still utilise common sense when handling domestic products as well.

Also - the guys at Pitchcare are very on the ball (FYI they sell both professional and amateur/domestic products) and able to guide what is best for you.

If you've got knotweed digging or any friendly ways to control it usually fail. 1mm of root is all it needs to grow again. Strong Weedkiller like this will work given direct 50% solution selectively applied every time it appears and will take several seasons.

If you want to get infested with knotweed, buy compost from your local authority as many people dig it up and illegally put in their green bins. Many treatment processors councils use don't kill knotweed.

I don't like using cancer causing products but needs must with knotweed. Use it correctly and selectively with PPE.

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Cut it at the stump and treat the stump with neat Round up immediately. Do it on a dry winter day.

It needs to be sprayed onto leaves (ideally when growing) so that it gets absorbed into the plant. Thus you don't need access to the roots.

I am having a terrible time trying to did out ivy in my garden which has roots as thick as my arm.ive pulled off all the leaves.so would this work in the ivy if I poured it onto the roots?

Prime example of why amateurs should not use professional products.

Anybody who is qualified would know never to mix a pesticide with diesel! There are specific adjuvants that are designed to increase pesticides efficacy.

It needs to be sprayed onto leaves (ideally when growing) so that it gets absorbed into the plant. Thus you don't need access to the roots.

Hi Shengis

Look on HSE website and other government bodies.

"'Amateur' and 'Professional' use
Most of the pesticides that you can use in the home, garden or allotment are approved for amateur use. This means that you do not need specific training to use these products. The label will be worded so that the instructions are easy to follow, to ensure that the product is used safely. These products are most likely to be found in your local garden centre, DIY store or supermarket.

Many other pesticides, such as those used on farms, or in public areas are approved for use in much larger commercial situations. The labels of these 'professional' products can be more complicated, and by law must only be used by those who have had the appropriate training. Professional products should never be used by the untrained amateur gardener. Someone with the right training can use a professional product in the home, garden or allotment so long as the intended use appears on the label."

So you must be trained to use these professional products.

Yes these products can cause environmental problems if applied at too higher or lower rate.

Amateurs stick to amateur products!

It needs to be sprayed onto leaves (ideally when growing) so that it gets absorbed into the plant. Thus you don't need access to the roots.

It needs to be sprayed onto leaves (ideally when growing) so that it gets absorbed into the plant. Thus you don't need access to the roots.

It needs to be sprayed onto leaves (ideally when growing) so that it gets absorbed into the plant. Thus you don't need access to the roots.

It needs to be sprayed onto leaves (ideally when growing) so that it gets absorbed into the plant. Thus you don't need access to the roots.

For ivy mix with diesel (red if you can get it as cheap). Diesel sticks ling enough to allow take up of chemical on the shiny leaves. NOT environmentaly friendly but works.

Voting cold as this product is not meant for amateur use. This is for qualified users only and illegal for them to sell without you proving BASIS qualified or PA1/6 certified.
Misuse leads to active ingredients being abused and banned by amateur users.

I use a weedkiller to keep small areas like paths under control, apparently it will be permitted in the EU again as per this excerpt however a hardcore industrial strength version like this is easy over the top for home use. A note on glyphosate May 2016: After reviewing glyphosate, the European Parliament has given the go ahead to relicense it but proposes disallowing certain uses such as public open space and restricting it to professional use only. The final resolution will be decided by national authorities this summer which may mean the withdrawal of glyphosate-based weedkillers for home gardeners in the UK. Check the RHS website for further updates.

You just copied this from my post in the earlier Gallup 360 deal, shame on you

HAAAA!! Keep dreaming

why would I lie?

cold bought same from them earlier in the week for £25.40

I got this for £26.75 through Flubit delivered yesterday and it was fulfilled by Soil Fertility Solutions.

thanks.
gf's bush is doing ma head in

Yeah, didn't work, too much glycophosphate got into my synapses. I use agri roundup now as its got surfactant in it which means I need much less to be effective and I don't breath as much in

Have you considered therapy? :neutral_face:

Tell that to anyone who ever had Japanese Knotweed on their property.
Someone commited suicide a couple of years ago after finding it in his garden.
(And if we come out we'll be in such an economic mess ) are you related to David Cameron?

Lower price yes but worse value as less diluted viable product in your Gallup 360. You nailed the guy that quoted Gallup 490 from eBay. He was too lazy to work out the comparative percent increase in viable product compared to increase in price. I guess I am lazy too 5 second search on Amazon to find a cheaper carcinogenic product for you to post!

If we stay in the EU they are about to ban the use of ALL Glyphosate products.

I use clinic ace myself . Have done for years . Takes a couple of weeks but keeps weeds done for a few months

Japanese Knotweed, I know, is a **** to control and almost impossible to eradicate. I don't profess to being an expert, but, for smaller areas, it's a case of dig up the roots as best as possible. I've had to do this when I managed a garden bordered by another full of knotweed. It was a yearly activity as new growth appeared. Physical barriers - slabs for example sunk into the ground can help to contain this movement. It is another example of man tipping the balance of nature with poor understanding of the consequences as knotweed was first introduced as an ornamental plant. I'm sure googling will provide other possibilities, even though the bottom line may not be control without effort.

May not help to solve this problem, but in my gardening I prefer to work with rather than against nature. I hand weed, grow plants to out compete unwanted invaders. Ornamentals that don't want to thrive, I replace with something that does. I don't use weedkillers or insecticides. I find well grown plants are usually fairly disease resistant and don't begrudge most insects and animals a share in my garden. It all helps in the bigger scheme of things :-)

Bought some cheers, weeds are doing my head in

I got the 360 a month ago, so far I have decimated the backyard of nettles and grasses, it resembles a drought scene at the moment.

Drilled out a rather nasty bramble stalk that has been peeing me off for some time and poured in some neat, no sign of life!

Murdered a rather old bush that has a 10" trunk it is so old as it is pushing my garden wall out at an angle, I told the wife I needed a 1100w reciprocating Bosch saw to take that down :smile:

Waiting to see if it does anything to the ivy we have.

The joys of buying a 90 year old house with a rather wild garden.

Awaiting somebody to post a deal for this : 5 Ltrs DEPITOX PROFESSIONAL QUALITY SELECTIVE WEED KILLER (+ FREE 120ml GALLIPOT & GLOVES)

:wink:

I hope everyone is aware of what a potentially dangerous chemical this is to the environment and people. Glyphosate weedkiller (also sold as Roundup by Monsanto) is a particularly insidious chemical to human and animal health with evidence linking it to cancers and other diseases and is teetering on the brink of being banned in Europe because of this. Its use skyrocketed and was promoted when Monsanto, who bred various food crops genetically modified so as to be resistant to this weedkiller. They then grew the GM crop and killed all other competing plants by indiscrimate use of the glyphosate. And 'we' also wonder why GM crops may be unhealthy to us and the environment?:

[url=Health problems linked to Roundup]http://ecowatch.com/2015/01/23/health-problems-linked-to-monsanto-roundup/[/url]

[url=toxicity of glyphosate]http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/07/30/glyphosate-toxicity.aspx[/url]

Hotukdeal forum members are quite likely already to have glyphosate in their bodies based on a study in 2013 that tested people in 18 european countries, even if we've never used it ourselves becauses it has entered the food chain:

[url=glyphosate found in urine of tested people in 18 European countries]https://www.foeeurope.org/weed-killer-glyphosate-found-human-urine-across-Europe-130613[/url]

Volunteers were all city-dwellers and included vegetarian and non-vegetarian diets.For the UK, 70% of tested samples showed positive for this claimed 'biodegradeable' weedkiller. Most of those people will never even have used it in their gardens.

It is on the verge of being recalled as the EU refuses to extend its licence:

[url=Recall of Monsanto's Roundup likely as EU refuses limited use of glyphosate]http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/06/recall-of-monsantos-roundup-likely-as-eu-refuses-limited-use-of-glyphosate[/url]

I hope that this will help to inform people who aren't aware. I bought some Roundup years ago without knowing and it's been sitting - used only once - while I figure what is the best way to dispose of it which is environmentally sound way. Anyone able to suggest how to get rid of it without it having any chance of entering the ecosystem?

Knotweed? really?

I'm going with the anti Monsanto brigade. I will never use the stuff.
I'm sure there are people out there who don't care and think they will never be affected by this stuff.

More Monsanto ecocide. Find a natural alternative.

Very odd that they show this over a picture of a lovely lawn???? Probably best not to use it on a lawn!! :smirk:

See post #1 above - it's slightly cheaper at £24 for 5 litres, but only about 75% the concentration, so it doesn't go as far.

Can cold voters show a better price/product or reasons not to buy ?
Would be helpful thanks.

Voted hot thanks op :wink:

Wished I looked here first. Bought usual rip off from local chain. Have some heat op.

You can get smaller amounts on Ebay, I got a litre for £12 delivered, was about 2 months back (it was in Polish though but received a full set of English Instructions)

Shame they don't do smaller amounts.

More expensive than the Gallup 360 posted here:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cheap-effective-weedkiller-works-almost-weeds-roundup-style-very-strong-professional-2461741

But stronger (therefore goes further when diluted) and can handle Japanese Knotweed.