Fantastic price for this Homebase/Argos own brand lightweight drill/driver with two 1.5Ah Li-ion batteries. Additional batteries are available, though at £24.99 for a 1.5Ah or £39.99 for a 4.0Ah (still cheaper than competitors' batteries) you might be better off buying another complete drill pack (that's what I've done)!
Same item is currently £49.99 at Argos.
Variable speed trigger; 2 speed gearbox; 13mm keyless chuck; built in light; see link for full details.
2 year guarantee too!
I previously found this was out of stock but now both stores local to me have them so I guess they received another shipment.
Several posters trying to compare this unfavourably with big brand / professional kit at a multiple of the price - what's the point of that? This is a well specified amateur/DIY lightweight drill driver with a 2 year guarantee at an incredible price. According to the Argos listing for the same item these use Samsung battery packs so should be decent quality too.
All comments (34)
linhang90
1 Jun 16#1
Got my Guild 18V cordless drill with one 1.3Ah battery from Argos for £29.99
ubmaniac
1 Jun 16#2
How does this compare to the makita/dewalt drill drivers? I don't expect the longevity to be up there with the big brands but the power output seems to be the same, or am I missing something? Couldn't one simply replace it a few times for less money overall than buying the expensive ones?
linhang90
1 Jun 16#3
this is defo enough for occasional DIYers... them expensive Makita Bosch Dewalt ones are for professionals i guess,with the feature like fast one hour charge for example... with my Guild one i think it takes the same amount of time as this one, 3-5 hr charge time
linhang90
1 Jun 16#4
2 year gurantee cant go wrong for the price
the__cat
1 Jun 16#5
Looks like a Ryobi?
Onlybreduced
1 Jun 16#6
if the chuck is rubbish and drill bits spin round in it then it's too annoying to be worth using at all IMHO otherwise any other shortcomings are
coleaj
1 Jun 16#7
It's a 1 hour charge. I have this drill and have been very impressed. It feels well made and well balanced. No idea how durable it is but it looks the part to me.
umar88
1 Jun 16#8
Most Makita/ dewalt will have around 50nm of torque. This only has 30 Nm. Don't be fooled by 18v. Nonetheless It's good deal and powerful enough if you just want it for jobs around the house.
Onlybreduced
1 Jun 16#9
...(I was gonna say) irelevent at the price
nomnomnomnom
1 Jun 16#10
It doesn't. Lower torque, low quality batteries*, lower quality construction, and forget spare parts (replace the entire thing if a part costing a few pence fails).
*I mention the batteries as I've had Argos / Homebase brands before thanks to HUKD, for my 'just in case' box and they were cheap. The Li-ion cells are very low quality and gave up just after a year. You do kinda expect that for this price, but it's no surprise I can't even *buy* a new battery. So I'm manually making one myself with replacement cells and a tab welder. Madness.
Over what period though? And how much time are you going to be spending each time looking for a 'deal' to save what's a few quid in the end?
It's not snobbery, but I'd rather have a second hand one from any of the major brands.
If you want to put holes in plasterboard and other small jobs, go for it. Hopefully the batteries are better than the ones I've had though.
ashby3232
1 Jun 16#11
It all depends on how much you are going to use , for the money its not that bad , done all the work with the fence and garage roof and still going strong.
Very weak at only 30Nm Torque where as the Bosch that was up for sale at Screw fix was at 60Nm of Torque, this might struggle when asked to do some work.
Cheap for a reason
WAWG
1 Jun 16#14
It's fine for the average DIYer.
mubashar
1 Jun 16#15
Top deal. I went looking for this but was OOS everywhere then ended up getting the:
Stanley FatMax for £65 http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/stanley-fatmax-drill-driver-with-2-x-13-ah-batteries%2C-fast-charger-and-kitbox---18v-207004
Only to return it when the deal came out for the:
WORX WX390 20V 3-in-1 H3 Max for £55 from Amazon.
I've reserved a Guild now as it's a good deal. Will found it a home.
Top value HOT deal!
Besford
1 Jun 16#16
Yes, saw that when it was posted. Unfortunately it's a very basic, far inferior item with just one battery and additional batteries are not available.
Besford
1 Jun 16#17
... low quality batteries*...
*I mention the batteries as I've had Argos / Homebase brands before thanks to HUKD, for my 'just in case' box and they were cheap. The Li-ion cells are very low quality and gave up just after a year. You do kinda expect that for this price, but it's no surprise I can't even *buy* a new battery. So I'm manually making one myself with replacement cells and a tab welder. Madness.
Li-ion or Ni-Cd? Ni-Cd are poor and don't last long. Don't confuse them!
nomnomnomnom
1 Jun 16#18
100% Li-ion. I make my own battery packs, so I know the differences well :smile:
mubashar
1 Jun 16#19
I reserved for collection from 2 stores that were showing 5 in stock. In both cases, tuned up and they actually have none in stock. Was told that these were all sent back due possibly a recall of some sort and the stock has been put back on their system for some unknown reason where as these are discontinued and not in stock.
If no one has actually been able to pick one up, may be this should be considered for expiring. If anyone plans to make a journey especially to collect, I suggest first ringing the store and asking them to do a physical check of stock.
If you are happy with an apology, make the journey at your own risk. Good luck.
Besford
1 Jun 16#20
I found no stock a few weeks back but, as I said, seems to be new stock. 2 more on the shelf when I picked one up in Kings Heath today and several in Solihull.
Besford
1 Jun 16#21
Some experience to share or just conjecture?
Besford
1 Jun 16#22
How much is the Bosch? I did say this is a "lightweight drill/driver". I have a couple of decent Ryobi drills but this is great to have on hand so I won't need to keep changing bits. It won't replace a piece of heavyweight/professional kit but for most people most of the time it'll do the job at a fabulous price and with a 2 year guarantee. There's little point in comparing chalk with cheese.
Besford
1 Jun 16#23
*I mention the batteries as I've had Argos / Homebase brands before thanks to HUKD, for my 'just in case' box and they were cheap. The Li-ion cells are very low quality and gave up just after a year.
Guaranteed for 2 years! Samsung battery packs.
nomnomnomnom
1 Jun 16#24
Great! so if it fails you can't get the job done, have to take it back to the store, where your options are generally have a repair or maybe get a refund if you're lucky. All from wanting to drill a hole.
These items change often - I tried to return mine and they wanted to send it away as no longer stocked that model.
If you're happy with that approach, go for it. But as much as I like to think I've had a bargain with cheaper tools, it never works out that way.
mubashar
1 Jun 16#25
Anyone else been able to pick up this model within the last few days? As said I had no luck on two stores that were showing 5 in stock. I was told they were recalled and that they were not expected back.
Was just looking at some reviews for the Guild Impact Driver that comes with the same battery.
"Don't bother. Charged drill battery fully, it ran out after 12mins and still showed 3 bars on the battery status, took back for a refund, was told the batteries had been recalled, not sure if this effects drills which come with a battery???" [Review left by Oliie on 27 May 2016]
Still worth the shop I think if the battery is not excluded from 2 year guarantee.
Besford
1 Jun 16#26
Not many reviews on the Homebase site yet but lots on the Argos site (same drill, higher price). They should give you confidence as they are excellent, eg: "My old Ni-Cad drill having died after only 12 month, I decided to give Li-on a try. Having just completed a project with this new "Guild" Drill Driver, using mainly 3 or 4 inch screws, I was pleasantly surprised, apart from being a great fit in your hand, I put in around 160 screws before changing batteries, What a blessing having two in the pack. The charge time of around 1 hour and a light to tell you when its full, are equal to drills costing a great deal more. So far a very happy bunny." argos.co.uk/sta…htm
suoer_cds
6 Jun 16#27
anyone found stock?
mubashar
6 Jun 16#28
Two stores that showed stock did not have any when I checked (Ruislip, Harrow Wield). Then I checked with Hanworth. They confirmed they had stock and sure enough I picked up the kit on Saturday.
kers
21 Jun 16#29
For all those that's interested.. these Guild 18v cordless uses the same battery as the Worx , Erbauer, JCB, Rockwell etc etc..so if you got some old Worx drill batteries laying about, these will fit ..
mubashar
22 Jun 16#30
The 20V Worx batteries are not interchangeable with the 18V Guild batteries are they?
kers
22 Jun 16#31
Yes they are.. all made by Positec group and once all the worx has sold out, they won't be available but only the new Guild power tools.
Besford
22 Jun 16#32
I don't think you're answering the point (18v vs 20v). What is the source of your information; seems spurious to me since Guild is a former Home Retail Group brand (Homebase and Argos as was) whereas WORX is more widely available.
kers
23 Jun 16#33
the 20v max is basically an 18v battery.they do this to fool you in thinking you're battery has more power, trust me.. the worx, JCB, Erbauer, Rockwell and some of Wickes batteries are all the same. I use the guild 4.0ah battery with my worx multitool I can also use any of the names mentioned above. this is the sole reason I kept to this platform. between all these brands I have all the cordless tools I need.
Ricky.Mundy
27 Sep 17#34
All talking a load of rubbish it s not Argos own make it s a company called positec that make that which has same battery as erbuaor, Rockwell or worx all own by the same company and I have nearly all tools worx got and had no problems with battery s motors or parts
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Same item is currently £49.99 at Argos.
Variable speed trigger; 2 speed gearbox; 13mm keyless chuck; built in light; see link for full details.
2 year guarantee too!
I previously found this was out of stock but now both stores local to me have them so I guess they received another shipment.
Several posters trying to compare this unfavourably with big brand / professional kit at a multiple of the price - what's the point of that? This is a well specified amateur/DIY lightweight drill driver with a 2 year guarantee at an incredible price. According to the Argos listing for the same item these use Samsung battery packs so should be decent quality too.
All comments (34)
I don't expect the longevity to be up there with the big brands but the power output seems to be the same, or am I missing something? Couldn't one simply replace it a few times for less money overall than buying the expensive ones?
otherwise any other shortcomings are
Don't be fooled by 18v.
Nonetheless It's good deal and powerful enough if you just want it for jobs around the house.
Lower torque, low quality batteries*, lower quality construction, and forget spare parts (replace the entire thing if a part costing a few pence fails).
*I mention the batteries as I've had Argos / Homebase brands before thanks to HUKD, for my 'just in case' box and they were cheap. The Li-ion cells are very low quality and gave up just after a year. You do kinda expect that for this price, but it's no surprise I can't even *buy* a new battery. So I'm manually making one myself with replacement cells and a tab welder. Madness.
Over what period though? And how much time are you going to be spending each time looking for a 'deal' to save what's a few quid in the end?
It's not snobbery, but I'd rather have a second hand one from any of the major brands.
If you want to put holes in plasterboard and other small jobs, go for it. Hopefully the batteries are better than the ones I've had though.
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Cheap for a reason
Stanley FatMax for £65
http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/stanley-fatmax-drill-driver-with-2-x-13-ah-batteries%2C-fast-charger-and-kitbox---18v-207004
Only to return it when the deal came out for the:
WORX WX390 20V 3-in-1 H3 Max for £55 from Amazon.
I've reserved a Guild now as it's a good deal. Will found it a home.
Top value HOT deal!
*I mention the batteries as I've had Argos / Homebase brands before thanks to HUKD, for my 'just in case' box and they were cheap. The Li-ion cells are very low quality and gave up just after a year. You do kinda expect that for this price, but it's no surprise I can't even *buy* a new battery. So I'm manually making one myself with replacement cells and a tab welder. Madness.
Li-ion or Ni-Cd? Ni-Cd are poor and don't last long. Don't confuse them!
If no one has actually been able to pick one up, may be this should be considered for expiring. If anyone plans to make a journey especially to collect, I suggest first ringing the store and asking them to do a physical check of stock.
If you are happy with an apology, make the journey at your own risk. Good luck.
Guaranteed for 2 years! Samsung battery packs.
These items change often - I tried to return mine and they wanted to send it away as no longer stocked that model.
If you're happy with that approach, go for it. But as much as I like to think I've had a bargain with cheaper tools, it never works out that way.
Was just looking at some reviews for the Guild Impact Driver that comes with the same battery.
"Don't bother. Charged drill battery fully, it ran out after 12mins and still showed 3 bars on the battery status, took back for a refund, was told the batteries had been recalled, not sure if this effects drills which come with a battery???"
[Review left by Oliie on 27 May 2016]
Still worth the shop I think if the battery is not excluded from 2 year guarantee.
"My old Ni-Cad drill having died after only 12 month, I decided to give Li-on a try. Having just completed a project with this new "Guild" Drill Driver, using mainly 3 or 4 inch screws, I was pleasantly surprised, apart from being a great fit in your hand, I put in around 160 screws before changing batteries, What a blessing having two in the pack. The charge time of around 1 hour and a light to tell you when its full, are equal to drills costing a great deal more. So far a very happy bunny."
argos.co.uk/sta…htm
trust me.. the worx, JCB, Erbauer, Rockwell and some of Wickes batteries are all the same. I use the guild 4.0ah battery with my worx multitool I can also use any of the names mentioned above. this is the sole reason I kept to this platform. between all these brands I have all the cordless tools I need.