-12.5'' 1366x768 screen w/ integrated webcam
-Intel i5-3320M (3rd gen) 2.6Ghz CPU
-Intel HD Graphics 4000
-4GB DDR3 RAM
-320GB SATA Hard Drive
-Windows 7 Professional 64 bit w/ COA & Service Pack 1
-Wifi and Bluetooth ready
-1x USB 2.0, 2x USB 3.0
-VGA, 4 in 1 SD reader, Express Card port, Smart Card reader
-1 year warranty from seller
-Possible Lenovo warranty as well? (details in listing)
-14 day returns
Possible upgrades (at extra cost):
-Upgrade to 6GB, 8GB or 16GB of RAM
-Upgrade to 500GB, 1TB HDD or 120GB SSD
-Upgrade to Windows 10 64 bit
Ex-Business Refurbished: 'Excellent ex-business machine fully working and tested by qualified engineers. Professionally installed with GENUINE Windows 7 Operating system & license provided under the Microsoft Authorised Refurbisher Program. Perfect use for School, College, Small Business. UK Mains adapter provided. Battery is guaranteed to last a minimum of 2 hours. 1 Year RTB warranty included. Wi-Fi enabled. Ready to use out of the box'
Everything seems very legitimate, approved by Microsoft and running genuine software, fantastic deal for an i5 laptop, the upgrades are reasonably priced. Seller has been fantastic in the past and I would highly recommend them to anyone
Seems great to me :)
Top comments
Tapasman to Magister
12 Jun 168#6
No, they charge £10 for their time in doing it. Nobody twisting anyones arm to pay it.
Its a good deal - anything cheaper has DE or US keyboards.
Excellent series of laptops, I'm still using an X220 and with an SSD & 8GB of RAM it flies along. Not brilliant for games, but then again they were never designed to be gaming machines.
julieallen to Magister
12 Jun 163#13
You work for free do you?
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szigmon123
12 Jun 16#1
Not sure this deal is any better or worse than their other deals. They are an excellent seller though and I have bought numerous laptops off them. On a couple of occasions I have received better than described I both condition and spec, but never worse. Highly recommended as a seller, but not voting either way for the price
DatAlbino to szigmon123
12 Jun 16#2
Considering most tablet laptops at 150 quid ish are scorching hot here I thought people would like a proper laptop, an i5 option, outdated slightly yes but still a decent amount of power, certainly better than alot of these extremely weak processors we see today in budget tablets/laptops
Seller is great yea, bought stuff off them and they've been amazing
t4r to szigmon123
12 Jun 16#5
Definitely. highly satisfied with this seller
Magister
12 Jun 16#3
So they charge £10 for the free upgrade to Windows 10
DatAlbino to Magister
12 Jun 161#4
I guess they charge 10 quid for doing it for you, so it comes pre-installed with Win10, I would advise doing it on your own (unles you're super lazy or have no clue how ^^)
Tapasman to Magister
12 Jun 168#6
No, they charge £10 for their time in doing it. Nobody twisting anyones arm to pay it.
Its a good deal - anything cheaper has DE or US keyboards.
Excellent series of laptops, I'm still using an X220 and with an SSD & 8GB of RAM it flies along. Not brilliant for games, but then again they were never designed to be gaming machines.
julieallen to Magister
12 Jun 163#13
You work for free do you?
tipsy1973
12 Jun 161#7
we have these at work, great machines and the battery life is amazing
X230 is not on there. Just up to x220 I'm afraid. But thanks for the link. I have an x200 lying around with bad battery I'll try to get battery on :wink:
b4dr1 to martyboy70
12 Jun 16#19
it says x220 but not 230
Optimus_Toaster
12 Jun 162#9
I use a second hand x220 and love it. His one will be slightly faster but imo has a worse keyboard.
I recommend an IPS panel upgrade (around £50) an SSD and maybe the 94wh battery (another £50). However the base unit is fine to start with.
Nevasleep
12 Jun 16#10
I'd try and get 8gb ram and 250gb SSD, if you can find a good price.
Posted from an x230 with both.
montana78 to Nevasleep
12 Jun 16#12
Very true. I put 16g b on mine. But didn't see any benefit so changed back to 8gb. These are very good laptops and ssd is a must.
congrevecv
12 Jun 161#11
I'll do the upgrade to windows for £5 + delivery costs! any takers??
northlondon01
12 Jun 16#15
These were £199 a couple of months ago. I nearly got one, but ended up getting a faster E6230 Latitude from Gumtree for £140, basically unused with six month Dell warranty.
My main worry on these was the battery, if the battery was only two hours, it would be fairly annoying and a new battery would push the price up fairly.
Great specs for the money and fantastic build quality.
chill
12 Jun 16#16
Used one of these recently on a course at work. After using several Thinkpads (my own work version is one of the more recent) I was pleasantly surprised by how quick this is and tempted to purchase. For personal use I have an asus ultra book which isn't a patch on this for business functions
wenttoabetterplace
12 Jun 16#17
These definitely need the IPS panels! The standard (TN?) ones are woeful.
Great machines
mattclarkie
12 Jun 161#18
i5-3320m is a very good processor for this money you'll not get better performance. Probably won't be Turbo Boost enabled as my Lenovo doesn't allow it even though the CPU is capable of it, so performance is basically the same as the i3-3110m which is still hard to get at this price point.
martyboy70
12 Jun 16#20
Oops, had it in my head that this was a 220 for some reason. Good luck with yours.
wenttoabetterplace
12 Jun 16#21
For anyone that's interested, I'm currently selling (via HUKD) my Dell E7240 Core i5 ultrabook (which would seem to be an equivalent - but better - alternative to this Lenovo)
Warranty through to June 23, 2017.
Comes with a desktop dock, 3G sim slot, backlit keyboard, 128GB MSATA SSD, i5 4200u processor, 1x4GB RAM (1 slot free). Original charger...some scratches to the lid - but in perfect working order. £210 delivered.
Battery is guaranteed to last a minimum of 2 hours. Mmmmmmm....
tombryant
12 Jun 162#24
great laptops, bought mine as a ex-corp when it was used for... wait for it....................
16hours! (battery cycles and Harddrive poweron time confirmed that :smile: )
Paid £200 for mine + upgraded with time to 8gb ram and ssd 1.5years ago.
Best laptop I have ever had, it's so small, great keyboard, yet really capable even today and I don't see any better alternative spec wise/performance wise laptop today.
These were £800-£1100 machines when new depending on the spec..
money-talks
12 Jun 16#25
And that's just initially, in my experience with this supplier, you will get a near end of life battery
tombryant
12 Jun 16#26
btw I would spend a bit more and look for x240 ( around £200 ) or x250 (around £250)
instead of this one, although its super great laptop well those are just few generations newer models for not much more and has slightly better videoperformance as long as muuch longer lasting batteries depending on the model.
Dananddan
12 Jun 16#27
Can you show me where I can get a x250 for £250?
DatAlbino
12 Jun 16#28
Lenovo x250's are selling for 600-800 quid most places depending on exact specs, HDD, SSD, etc... that statement was super, super dumb
Dan if he finds you one PM me I'll buy you one myself
wenttoabetterplace
12 Jun 16#29
£250 was clearly very wrong....but you are also just as wrong with your over inflated estimate :smiley: !!
Pretty much the first X250 result I found was for £424;
Beware, this eBay seller sent me a HP With a broken trackpad button, missing rubber feet and worst of all COFFEE filled "refurbished" unit. They are not responding to my emails as I want to return either!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
wenttoabetterplace
12 Jun 162#31
File a dispute. Easy
If they don't respond, you get a full refund and keep the laptop.
DatAlbino
13 Jun 16#32
Sorry haha, googled it and read the side notes on prices rather than clicking links, shows the value of shopping around! ^^
250 is just a joke tho, get your facts right
DatAlbino
13 Jun 16#33
This is easily one of the best sellers I have dealt with on eBay, I have bought from them many, many times, and many people seem to feel the same, just open a paypal dispute, no ones perfect but PP will resolve it quickly
tombryant
13 Jun 16#34
Uhm NO! check the ended auctions on ebay...
wait a week for a good one and bid on it...
actually I have an idea now in mind to sell my x230 for £200-£250 to some numbnut who can't use ebay ( to someone above for example) and buy the x250 for the £250
not a bad idea :smile:
edit: Than again, the x230 has a bit more powerful cpu than the x250 and mine x230 is still perfect so won't bother upgrading just to get a newer model.
Babbler
13 Jun 16#35
Oh for the ebay 20% discount to return... :smile:
wenttoabetterplace
13 Jun 16#36
Please show me the EBay auction where one of the X250's sold for £250.
The closest one I found in ended auctions was one that had a cracked screen, and was stripped of all its components - for....£210!!
I v.much doubt you'll get one for anywhere near £250!
Tapasman
13 Jun 16#37
Its a good point re the keyboard and one reason why I haven't bothered moving up the X series ladder. The X230 was the first to use the "island" style keyboard as opposed to the full size keys on earlier models. Its a marmite thing, you either like that style or you don't, and I don't!
By the time you've done all that you'd have been better off spending the money on a higher spec machine to begin with :smiley:
ssc1
13 Jun 16#38
webcam and bluetooth? cant see it mentioned. thx
DatAlbino
13 Jun 162#39
Even with 100 quid worth of upgrade (and that could get you a great full HD screen, an SSD or a big HDD, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit and perhaps 2/4GB RAM extra) it will be much, much better than what you can get in the 250-300 price range
It has a webcam and bluetooth
johnzoro
13 Jun 16#40
12.5" screen? O_O
DatAlbino
13 Jun 16#41
So you think you're able to sell your older x230 for 200-250, when a well known ebay seller is selling it for far less than that, in this very post?
And you also think you can somehow buy the successor to laptop, just by selling your current, older one? Like selling a 360 and having enough money for an Xbox One?
You need help.
wenttoabetterplace
13 Jun 16#42
In fairness, I tend to sell things on Ebay, and buy things on Gumtree. People pay WAY over the odds on Ebay - and people sell for peanuts on Gumtree. I've upgraded models on various things whilst also making money at the same time.
(NEX 5N > NEX 7. Claud Butler Olympus XT > VooDoo Bizango. GoPro Hero HD (original) > Sony AS30. I sold all of the lower spec models for more than I bought the better ones for! Just requires some good negotiation skills :smiley: !)
DatAlbino
13 Jun 16#43
Agreed, I sold my Nexus 7 for 50 quid on eBay and got a Hudl 2 for 55 delivered from Gumtree, great upgrade imo
However that notion is literally like, what. It is literally like expecting to sell a 360 to buy an Xbone, he is talking about selling his old pre owned x230 when there are ex business, properly refurbed ones with upgrades selling for much less, right here! xD
derhama2534
13 Jun 16#44
I have one of these from a previous offer and it is brilliant.....put a SSD drive in it and upgraded to Windows 10 and it is well worth the money! It runs very fast and is very durable (compared to my previous Vaio laptop which was £900) and the battery lasts about 2 hours as well. I also still like having the physical mouse buttons on the touch pad which most current laptops no longer have.
Babbler
13 Jun 16#45
Just realised they are within driving distance of me! Do they have a showroom??
captainbeaky
13 Jun 161#46
They have a shop in Waterlooville. They are also trade as:
you clearly haven't used ebay/gumtree much than :wink: You can always sell any laptop for at least £200 if it's still in decent condition. last year I had too much old laptops just hanging around unused, made good pictures,good descriptions and sold pretty much old dual core stuff that's worth £50 for between £150-£200 , general People outside the field has no idea of what to even look for when buying a laptop...
I bet that 50% of people here who will buy this laptop will also have no idea really what they are actually buying..
I don't do this to make money ,however it's a good feeling that you can buy used piece of something for £50, use it till you get bored and sell it for £100 :smile:
DatAlbino
13 Jun 16#48
So basically you're admitting to buying old dual core stuff for 50 quid, exaggerating on listings and making profit.
Great.
I bought my RAM, my SD cards, my headphones, my speaker, my PC case, my CPU, my monitor, all through eBay, and my tablet and my brother's tab through Gumtree. Those outlets are there to make a 2nd hand market, not allow you to abuse your knowledge (and other people's lack) about computing and make a profit selling them crap.
While alot of people don't know specs most people know not to buy Xbox One price for a 360, or pay 500 quid for a used bike cos that can buy you a new one, or pay 150 for a ps3 when a ps4 bundle is the same
You cannot ride on people's stupidity to try sell your personally used x230 for more than a professionally refurbished business one, and I'm pretty sure anyone with 2 brain cells would not trade an x230 for your apparently '250 quid' x250.
Your point is valid in general, but in this context, completely void
tombryant
13 Jun 16#49
nah, I probably bought them for about the same price than I sold them, just many many many years down the line :wink:
buying a bicycle or an xbox is different, everyone knows enough about them only some pensioner probably wouldn't know much about the difference between xbox one and 360 . PC/laptops on the other hand... Maybe 25% of the population are aware of what to look for and what the cpu models mean or even what the hell is RAM :smile:
You still haven't gone to ebay sold auctions and looked at the x250 sale prices? they Do range starting from £250-£270 for a decent ones (NOT cracked or damaged as someone suggested)
DatAlbino
13 Jun 16#50
Which is up to the buyer, as long as you inform them that it is a, say, 5 year old dual pentium that barely works and is less powerful than a low end 50 quid smartphone, then I spose so. But Im sure you haven't done that, cos that would mean people wouldn't buy it, would they?
True, people know less of PCs then say Xbox's or bikes...but that is still not an opportunity to abuse that and therefore make profit selling crap to, as you say, pensioners or clueless people.
Went to eBay, clicked UK only auctions and used, there are no x250s on sale, only 4 international sellers which defeats the point
Looking at buy it nows:
£440, £639, £520, £499, £799, £1,100 (Overpriced), £956, £1,100 again, £962, and then its on to internationals who aren't that much cheaper
My average that I worked out, not including the two £1000+ ones, thats stupid, was £579 roughly
579 is hardly 250 is it? Even if you shopped around and somehow found some mug at 400 quid, thats still nearly double your claim isn't it?
wenttoabetterplace
13 Jun 161#51
Rather than telling us about these unicorn deals, could you provide the links....
Because I still can't see any X250's that have been sold for £250.
tombryant
13 Jun 16#52
See you clearly can't even use ebay.. I told you like 4times to look for - SOLD auctions..
Better, fantastic deals, well done to the 3 people who got it, now lets look at the actual market price, out of the 14 listings in the UK there is an average price of what? £579.
And how recent were those 3 sales you showed? Only one is in the past 2 months. No matter what deal someone got 2-3 months ago the current price is way higher than £250
Lets use the 3 anomalies that you found on eBay from several months ago, even if you could get one for 250 ish, your x230 should sell for much less then?
That is an x230, used in great condition, with double RAM and 1TB, therefore yours should sell for even less than that, and less than these professionally refurbed ones, therefore a trade in is impossible
tombryant
13 Jun 161#54
market price= whatever someone is willing to pay for it. End of story...
You can surely use the free ebay listings you have and list lets say 5 x250 laptops at £1500 each, will the £1500 be the new market price just because someone is asking that much for it? NO! market price=whatever someone actually buys the item for.
I'm tired to reply to your posts, and you reply to mine super fast like you were spending all your life on this site.
Good luck!
Babbler
14 Jun 16#55
This would be ideal... but looking for similar specs / price with 14" screen - recommendations?
AzNDeals
14 Jun 161#56
Have you tried looking at the T430? Essentially the same thing but with a 14" screen.
I have one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. Paid £150 off a friend, and upgraded it with bits and bobs and came to around £220 if I remember correctly. Honestly, it's the best purchase I have ever made!
Babbler
14 Jun 16#57
Thanks... Wife says she wants smaller screen after all... :/. 13 perhaps. May just get this one... Not sure... Lol
DatAlbino
14 Jun 161#58
Tell your wife the half inch doesn't matter ^^
wenttoabetterplace
14 Jun 161#59
Why don't you just have a dual screen setup? 12.5" laptop when you need to be mobile, and a big high definition display when you are at a desk.
(I do the same thing with a Surface 3. 10.6" screen when I'm out and about is more than enough....and then a 27" screen when I'm at my desk. I MUCH prefer that kind of setup than lugging about a 15.6" laptop)
Ok finally went for it... got the x230. Seemed a good deal. No IPS display but hey... dont need it! Also got the 16gb ram from the HUKD post to put into it... upgraded drive to 500gb as didnt want to outlay £40 ish to buy a drive on top of this...
Hoping its not a seagate but guessing it will be? May change it out once I can afford to get the SSD (cant afford £130!)
Babbler
17 Jun 161#62
Arrived today. Excellent condition. Couldn't tell it was used.
Love it. Bigger than expected which is good! Only annoying thing is no caps light? Very minor. Touch pad a little small too but to be expected on such a small laptop.
Overall very happy for the money at the money. Will use it properly soon.
AzNDeals
17 Jun 16#63
Congratulations!
Mine's pretty much died on me. :disappointed: Touchpad and Trackpoint don't work because the drivers have gotten corrupted.
wenttoabetterplace
17 Jun 16#64
Time to do a clean install (which you should do on any refurb machine)
wenttoabetterplace
17 Jun 16#65
Delete the drivers and let Windows find some good ones...
(Or better still, clean install :smiley: )
AzNDeals
17 Jun 16#66
Did both, pretty sure the Windows ones are causing the issue in the first place!
I was using the laptop and then I received updates for it which automatically installed itself and then they stopped working.
So not only does it not work, I've lost all my data from doing a clean install and not backing it up because I thought at least it would work. :disappointed:
Babbler
17 Jun 161#67
It arrived as a clean install... It wasn't a virus just stupid add on software apparently which was installed by open office. Removed. All good..
buglawton
18 Jun 161#68
Lenovo have utilities that check your machine and install relevant driver updates.
See if there's one for yours (check Lenovo site & download). I've got a thing called Lenovo companion. Don't install all suggested updates - just the ones that seem relevant to your problem.
AzNDeals
18 Jun 16#69
Well, I'm not really sure what I did to fix it. I'm not sure whether or not it's because I threw the damn laptop onto the floor, or I booted it into safe mode that made it suddenly work again. :confused:
wenttoabetterplace
18 Jun 16#70
You chucked a laptop with a driver issue onto the floor?!
If I'd taken that approach, I would have run out of computers long before I fixed any problems :smiley:
AzNDeals
18 Jun 161#71
I spent nearly 10 hours trying to fix it yesterday, and hey presto.
After I threw it, it magically worked again! :wink:
buglawton
18 Jun 16#72
The impact re-seated the trackpad to make good electrical contact. Problems aren't always software!
AzNDeals
18 Jun 16#73
And it's gone again.
I only restarted it and now I'm getting the same errors again! Grrr. Going into safe mode doesn't do anything either. Man VS Laptop Round 2? :man:
bubblegun
18 Jun 16#74
Yes. I got an X220 with 8Gb ram for £120 4 months ago and now you've got me a free new battery. Thanks.
Call their support line tomorrow and if no joy get them to replace it...
geeadamg
19 Jun 16#78
Thanks for this. This site today has cost me £325 before 9am. However, for that I've got two phones, one vacuum and one laptop.
All of this has broken in the last week (cracked screens - phone, vacuum no longer sucks and a pint of water over laptop).
Thanks HUKDers (& thanks credit card)
AzNDeals
19 Jun 16#79
I would do that, but unfortunately, because I bought it used, the warranty is already up. It expired last October sadly. :disappointed:
Does anyone think downgrading back to Windows 7 will do anything? I'm actually desperate now.
b4dr1
20 Jun 16#80
i got mine and was very used up and touchpad rattling too.
Babbler
25 Jun 16#81
Damn just noticed I upgraded to Windows ten via them (as I'm lazy and wanted it working asap) and it's home edition :disappointed:. If you buy the non upgraded it's pro edition! Grrr. That would have upgraded to Windows 10 pro :disappointed:(
wenttoabetterplace
26 Jul 16#82
Can't really understand why you would have opted for that on any level. The first thing I do (regardless of how clean an install looks) is to do a clean install.
You live and learn :smiley:
Babbler
26 Jul 16#83
No me either. Momentary lapse of judgement... :disappointed:
rincage
28 Jul 16#84
bought this yesterday. probably cheapest genuine battery deal at this capacity.
Firstly, the X230 has a 10-15% better processor according to geekbench see here for comparison both are dual cores but the X230 supports more memory and seems to run a little faster
They both run Windows 10, with 4GB DDR3 RAM and a 320GB SATA HDD, so no changes there
Both screens are the same resolution, the X230 is a little more compact at 12.5'' compared to 14'' on the Lenovo, personal preference there
The Lenovo starts off cheaper but the upgrades seem to cost more, so could work out dearer if you fully kit it out, however for the base model it is a 50 quid ish saving
I would personally go for this one based off the better CPU and longer battery life, but 50 quid is a good saving for a slight downgrade
Opening post
-12.5'' 1366x768 screen w/ integrated webcam
-Intel i5-3320M (3rd gen) 2.6Ghz CPU
-Intel HD Graphics 4000
-4GB DDR3 RAM
-320GB SATA Hard Drive
-Windows 7 Professional 64 bit w/ COA & Service Pack 1
-Wifi and Bluetooth ready
-1x USB 2.0, 2x USB 3.0
-VGA, 4 in 1 SD reader, Express Card port, Smart Card reader
-1 year warranty from seller
-Possible Lenovo warranty as well? (details in listing)
-14 day returns
Possible upgrades (at extra cost):
-Upgrade to 6GB, 8GB or 16GB of RAM
-Upgrade to 500GB, 1TB HDD or 120GB SSD
-Upgrade to Windows 10 64 bit
Ex-Business Refurbished: 'Excellent ex-business machine fully working and tested by qualified engineers. Professionally installed with GENUINE Windows 7 Operating system & license provided under the Microsoft Authorised Refurbisher Program. Perfect use for School, College, Small Business. UK Mains adapter provided. Battery is guaranteed to last a minimum of 2 hours. 1 Year RTB warranty included. Wi-Fi enabled. Ready to use out of the box'
Everything seems very legitimate, approved by Microsoft and running genuine software, fantastic deal for an i5 laptop, the upgrades are reasonably priced. Seller has been fantastic in the past and I would highly recommend them to anyone
Seems great to me :)
Top comments
Its a good deal - anything cheaper has DE or US keyboards.
Excellent series of laptops, I'm still using an X220 and with an SSD & 8GB of RAM it flies along. Not brilliant for games, but then again they were never designed to be gaming machines.
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Seller is great yea, bought stuff off them and they've been amazing
Its a good deal - anything cheaper has DE or US keyboards.
Excellent series of laptops, I'm still using an X220 and with an SSD & 8GB of RAM it flies along. Not brilliant for games, but then again they were never designed to be gaming machines.
https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/documents/hf004122
I recommend an IPS panel upgrade (around £50) an SSD and maybe the 94wh battery (another £50). However the base unit is fine to start with.
Posted from an x230 with both.
My main worry on these was the battery, if the battery was only two hours, it would be fairly annoying and a new battery would push the price up fairly.
Great specs for the money and fantastic build quality.
Great machines
Warranty through to June 23, 2017.
Comes with a desktop dock, 3G sim slot, backlit keyboard, 128GB MSATA SSD, i5 4200u processor, 1x4GB RAM (1 slot free). Original charger...some scratches to the lid - but in perfect working order. £210 delivered.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4200U-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3320M
http://www.hotukdeals.com/for-sale-trade/27-1080p-screen-iphone-4s-s-dell-e7240-i5-ultrabook-takstar-microphone-2x-640gb-2458366
16hours! (battery cycles and Harddrive poweron time confirmed that :smile: )
Paid £200 for mine + upgraded with time to 8gb ram and ssd 1.5years ago.
Best laptop I have ever had, it's so small, great keyboard, yet really capable even today and I don't see any better alternative spec wise/performance wise laptop today.
These were £800-£1100 machines when new depending on the spec..
instead of this one, although its super great laptop well those are just few generations newer models for not much more and has slightly better videoperformance as long as muuch longer lasting batteries depending on the model.
Dan if he finds you one PM me I'll buy you one myself
Pretty much the first X250 result I found was for £424;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-X250-ThinkPad-Ultra-Book-Intel-i5-5300U-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-WARRANTY-/252422774485?hash=item3ac591ded5:g:aeAAAOSwMNxXVcM8
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
If they don't respond, you get a full refund and keep the laptop.
250 is just a joke tho, get your facts right
wait a week for a good one and bid on it...
actually I have an idea now in mind to sell my x230 for £200-£250 to some numbnut who can't use ebay ( to someone above for example) and buy the x250 for the £250
not a bad idea :smile:
edit: Than again, the x230 has a bit more powerful cpu than the x250 and mine x230 is still perfect so won't bother upgrading just to get a newer model.
The closest one I found in ended auctions was one that had a cracked screen, and was stripped of all its components - for....£210!!
I v.much doubt you'll get one for anywhere near £250!
By the time you've done all that you'd have been better off spending the money on a higher spec machine to begin with :smiley:
It has a webcam and bluetooth
And you also think you can somehow buy the successor to laptop, just by selling your current, older one? Like selling a 360 and having enough money for an Xbox One?
You need help.
(NEX 5N > NEX 7. Claud Butler Olympus XT > VooDoo Bizango. GoPro Hero HD (original) > Sony AS30. I sold all of the lower spec models for more than I bought the better ones for! Just requires some good negotiation skills :smiley: !)
However that notion is literally like, what. It is literally like expecting to sell a 360 to buy an Xbone, he is talking about selling his old pre owned x230 when there are ex business, properly refurbed ones with upgrades selling for much less, right here! xD
https://grabalaptop.com
I bet that 50% of people here who will buy this laptop will also have no idea really what they are actually buying..
I don't do this to make money ,however it's a good feeling that you can buy used piece of something for £50, use it till you get bored and sell it for £100 :smile:
Great.
I bought my RAM, my SD cards, my headphones, my speaker, my PC case, my CPU, my monitor, all through eBay, and my tablet and my brother's tab through Gumtree. Those outlets are there to make a 2nd hand market, not allow you to abuse your knowledge (and other people's lack) about computing and make a profit selling them crap.
While alot of people don't know specs most people know not to buy Xbox One price for a 360, or pay 500 quid for a used bike cos that can buy you a new one, or pay 150 for a ps3 when a ps4 bundle is the same
You cannot ride on people's stupidity to try sell your personally used x230 for more than a professionally refurbished business one, and I'm pretty sure anyone with 2 brain cells would not trade an x230 for your apparently '250 quid' x250.
Your point is valid in general, but in this context, completely void
buying a bicycle or an xbox is different, everyone knows enough about them only some pensioner probably wouldn't know much about the difference between xbox one and 360 . PC/laptops on the other hand... Maybe 25% of the population are aware of what to look for and what the cpu models mean or even what the hell is RAM :smile:
You still haven't gone to ebay sold auctions and looked at the x250 sale prices? they Do range starting from £250-£270 for a decent ones (NOT cracked or damaged as someone suggested)
True, people know less of PCs then say Xbox's or bikes...but that is still not an opportunity to abuse that and therefore make profit selling crap to, as you say, pensioners or clueless people.
Went to eBay, clicked UK only auctions and used, there are no x250s on sale, only 4 international sellers which defeats the point
Looking at buy it nows:
£440, £639, £520, £499, £799, £1,100 (Overpriced), £956, £1,100 again, £962, and then its on to internationals who aren't that much cheaper
My average that I worked out, not including the two £1000+ ones, thats stupid, was £579 roughly
579 is hardly 250 is it? Even if you shopped around and somehow found some mug at 400 quid, thats still nearly double your claim isn't it?
Because I still can't see any X250's that have been sold for £250.
here you go:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-X250-Intel-Core-i5-5200U-4GB-500GB-12-5-Windows7-/231903724432?hash=item35fe8a0390%3Ag%3Ax7EAAOSwfl9XBAVn&nma=true&si=QSq1WEntY1iAuB%252B0GyLTqBul3IE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LENOVO-thinkpad-X250-LAPTOP-win10-4gb-500gb-hdd-12-5-intel-i5-2-20ghz-/322135724248?hash=item4b00c910d8%3Ag%3AygUAAOSwnFZXUbMq&nma=true&si=QSq1WEntY1iAuB%252B0GyLTqBul3IE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Laptop-X250-/262414425453?hash=item3d191e5d6d%3Ag%3AZikAAOSw1DtXJcmN&nma=true&si=QSq1WEntY1iAuB%252B0GyLTqBul3IE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
happy now? :smile:
And how recent were those 3 sales you showed? Only one is in the past 2 months. No matter what deal someone got 2-3 months ago the current price is way higher than £250
Lets use the 3 anomalies that you found on eBay from several months ago, even if you could get one for 250 ish, your x230 should sell for much less then?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Slim-FAST-Powerful-Lenovo-X230-1-Terabyte-Hard-Drive-8g-RAM-Windows-7-/182165687056?hash=item2a69ebcb10:g:3KUAAOSw9mFWGM5z
That is an x230, used in great condition, with double RAM and 1TB, therefore yours should sell for even less than that, and less than these professionally refurbed ones, therefore a trade in is impossible
You can surely use the free ebay listings you have and list lets say 5 x250 laptops at £1500 each, will the £1500 be the new market price just because someone is asking that much for it? NO! market price=whatever someone actually buys the item for.
I'm tired to reply to your posts, and you reply to mine super fast like you were spending all your life on this site.
Good luck!
I have one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. Paid £150 off a friend, and upgraded it with bits and bobs and came to around £220 if I remember correctly. Honestly, it's the best purchase I have ever made!
(I do the same thing with a Surface 3. 10.6" screen when I'm out and about is more than enough....and then a 27" screen when I'm at my desk. I MUCH prefer that kind of setup than lugging about a 15.6" laptop)
Found the t420 but prefer the one on this post
Hoping its not a seagate but guessing it will be? May change it out once I can afford to get the SSD (cant afford £130!)
Love it. Bigger than expected which is good! Only annoying thing is no caps light? Very minor. Touch pad a little small too but to be expected on such a small laptop.
Overall very happy for the money at the money. Will use it properly soon.
Mine's pretty much died on me. :disappointed: Touchpad and Trackpoint don't work because the drivers have gotten corrupted.
(Or better still, clean install :smiley: )
I was using the laptop and then I received updates for it which automatically installed itself and then they stopped working.
So not only does it not work, I've lost all my data from doing a clean install and not backing it up because I thought at least it would work. :disappointed:
See if there's one for yours (check Lenovo site & download). I've got a thing called Lenovo companion. Don't install all suggested updates - just the ones that seem relevant to your problem.
If I'd taken that approach, I would have run out of computers long before I fixed any problems :smiley:
After I threw it, it magically worked again! :wink:
I only restarted it and now I'm getting the same errors again! Grrr. Going into safe mode doesn't do anything either. Man VS Laptop Round 2? :man:
All of this has broken in the last week (cracked screens - phone, vacuum no longer sucks and a pint of water over laptop).
Thanks HUKDers (& thanks credit card)
Does anyone think downgrading back to Windows 7 will do anything? I'm actually desperate now.
You live and learn :smiley:
Lenovo Thinkpad Battery 44 + for ThinkPad X220; X220i; X230; X230i (0 A36307) Lithium Ion 9-cell 94 Wh https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GD1TQ78/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xWzMxbWTY4JGE
They both run Windows 10, with 4GB DDR3 RAM and a 320GB SATA HDD, so no changes there
Both screens are the same resolution, the X230 is a little more compact at 12.5'' compared to 14'' on the Lenovo, personal preference there
The Lenovo starts off cheaper but the upgrades seem to cost more, so could work out dearer if you fully kit it out, however for the base model it is a 50 quid ish saving
I would personally go for this one based off the better CPU and longer battery life, but 50 quid is a good saving for a slight downgrade