I'd personally take a 36mth deal on this car for just £2 more net per month so that you dont have to worry about warranty issues

​VW top end..... Lol :smiley: VW are about as top end as plastic shoes. And the passat has above average performance but is, like the golf, one of the dullest, characterless, bland cars you can buy. Drive a VW because it's a good drive, but they are nothing to boast about :smile:

Next time you take your motor for a service at a Ford dealer, get them to check all your software is up-to date.

Yes, but you need to do this long term and get a rolling average going. Every litre of fuel I've put in my car has been logged. I'm shocked at how much variation I get between fill ups, must be due to errors in the pump gauge, or length of nozzle (I don't fill to the brim, just the first click as recommended in the manual for my car).

Long term also cancels out the fact that you get better mpg in the hotter weather.

And I wouldn't trust a trip computer at all.

It's funny how people "know" how much mpg they get, but very few are logging it so the number they quote is worthless to people like me who drive a ton of miles and want to buy the best mpg car based on data.

Edit: here is my mpg data: http://m.imgur.com/UqhDwQ6

I've the Nissan xtrail 1.6diesel and getting 57mpg in the lakes really pleased as my freelander just managed 30mpg this is one of the reasons I've decided to lease. works out cheaper and I've got certainty in my costs.

Or as I posted on post #6.

The Real mpg is an average of an average of an average covering all types of use and all methods of calculating the economy. The real life fuel economy register gives you a method of calculating your mpg brim to brim, based on car odometer readings, which may themselves be higher than the miles actually covered.

Or one can check by filling up to the brim, writing the mileage on the fuel receipt, then filling up to the brim again after 300 miles or so and writing that mileage on the ticket. Multiply the litres on the second ticket by 0.22 to get gallons, subtract the first mileage from the second mileage then divide the result by the gallons. Of course you then need to allow for odometer inaccuracy.

So one case from thousands of rides a day. Do you leave your house?

yeah town is the killer my lorry only does 6mpg round town

this is true both my cars have trip 1 and trip 2 trip 2 is never reset.

Well I guess I don't drive slowly when the engine is cold, which is always advisable. Plus I do a lot of driving in town and you know that means, traffic light after traffic light, even on round-abouts where there's no-one on it. My average speed is 17 mph.

All these people quote mpg - can you confirm that this is an average figure, over how many miles and over what length of time?

I get 59mpg, averaged over 46,000 miles / 2 years. Hyundai 1.1 Diesel i20, 6 speed.

I get the feeling people are quoting from their trip computers, and posting their "personal best". The only way to do it is log it long term over at least 1 summer + 1 winter.

Sadly not, as an example my friend died whilst instructing a pupil doing no more than 30mph

G = a proper standard imperial gallon (4.546L) rather than the American Gallon that's about 3.78L.

Check honestjohn website for realistic mpg

​Too much watching live leak puts me off motor bike or scooter.

1.5 tdci in focus and get 55mpg about 70% town and 30 motorway. but this deal is too long. 4 years is a lot for things to get scratched and go wrong. also the car will be out of warranty as well as needing MOT so may be stung with a bit of money.

Real MPG figures here - invaluable resource. Ford are notorious for their poor MPG claims - this model of Fiesta is 70% of it's claimed MPG, shocking.

​calibration?.....tell me more please

​good stuff but personally my zetec s is the best looker

Surely litres per 100 km?


The G is for an imperial gallon.

I think you'll find it was Robert Ley and not Adolf Hitler....

Have you had the calibration updated since new?
I was originally only getting 50+mpg, but since the calibration was updated (in 2011) I'm upset if I'm not getting 70mpg.

Currently getting about 75mpg because of the higher ambient temperature.

He sounds like Gollum :smile:

If you're going to use the metric, then use kilometers an not miles :smiley:. Metric countries tend to use l/100km as the measure of consumption.

I don't see how MPG (or even MPL) would tell you how much petrol you can take though.

You're the type that tells people it is all yours I can tell....

Why they use MPG if the car is for the European market. You load liters so it sjould be MPL (miles per liter). Otherwise none of you know straight away (without the calculator) how much petrol your car take. This is silly for me!
PS. Also does "G" from MPG state American or standard gallon?

With a lease your not supposed to be able too. But if you speak to the lease company towards the end of the contract they may give you the option.

can i buy this car after 48months?

Ford built German vehicles for WW2.

Yep a brand new car, all **mine** to enjoy for the next few years without worrying about depreciation, MOT, road tax and garage bills, Your point?

Lol at people quoting ethics about Ford. And while we're at it, did you know Volkswagen was started by Adolf Hitler? I think Ford's past ethics are a mere pinch of salt compared to the VW founder's background :confused:

Does this stop people buying VWs? Nope. company ethics really dont play any part in consumer purchase choice.

"Yours" you say?.....

There will be some good deals coming up on these as they are now on runout. I recently received a quote for a titanium x with a few options (nav, leather and dress up kit) for £14,995 very tempted.

Only if you ride like a lunatic...

Intensive care & orthopaedic surgery c/o the taxpayer & NHS :-(

I get 32mpg on average out of my 1.6l ecoboost fiesta st, and I drive like an idiot most of the time,surely you can do better than 35!

​guess it's personal preference really, I love my new fiesta st <3

The Sandero is based on a 2004 technology Renault Clio, you couldn't sell it me for any amount of money.

Ride a scooter then: guaranteed seat, free parking and an asset at the end of the year.

I pay 60 quid a week on the tube and after 48 months I don't own Jack

Oh dear....

Keep in mind the total cost of the lease is over £6000, A brand new dacia sandero is only £5995 on the road. yes the fiesta may be a better car but the sandero will be yours to keep.

If you want to talk fugly. My 54 plate Edge looked far better than any of the Mk2 Models..excluding the RS.

I get 66mpg out of my Fabia dsg 1.4 diesel, i even got 53mpg out of my hyundai i30 petrol manual 6 speed.

I've always considered leasing but anyone ever had issues with the lease-end penalty charges if the vehicle is scratched or damaged? is this fixed or does it vary?

Not as many as you believe. Many on here couldn't care less to buy battery-farmed chickens...

I've had a 15reg 1.5D 75hp Fester from new. Mainly motorway and A-roads over 23,000 miles and averaging 61+mpg, true mpg brim filled checked not just relying on the trip computer.

i dont think this is that great... there are better deals to be had on better cars

Which IMO is still good. Sit behind a lorry on long journeys, can get 50mpg out of my 10 year old NA petrol when the quoted figure is 40.

Correct. No one forced anyone to move from Ford to Visteon. If you didn't want to move, you were free to go on the dole.

And again, you're right. Price is king for many but there are quite a few people on this site , while looking for a good price, care about how workers are treated. Sports Direct deals mostly go cold whatever the price.

I was just speculating that's why the poster would never buy a Ford.

I didn't say Article 50 played any part in Ford's decision - merely stating the UK will need to adapt if it's going to survive.

No one forced any former Ford worker to move to Visteon.

Vote with your wallet - if you don't wish to buy Ford then buy something else but the importance of ethics is typically very low down the foodchain given the price sensitivity of today's environment.

​ Thats horrific. I run a 200bhp 1.6 208gti and I average 43mpg including my rush hour commute. Motorway with a gentle foot at 70mph sees 60mpg

They did it 7 years ago. Article 50 played no part in their decision.

True. Production follows labour costs but Ford deliberately moved workers to a front company (Visteon) so they could liquidate that before the move to China and claim they'd no responsibility for the pensions that staff had paid into for decades. The unethical part wasn't moving the jobs, it was the manoeuvre to screw working people out of their pensions.

No big company is totally ethical but many consumers value basic workers rights when making a choice of what/where to buy. Sports Direct a case in point.

Gotta love these deals , makes me feel so much better with my 35k top end vw passat 4wd alltrack DSG i bagged from here for the same price. Need a car for the missus and looking out for another insane deal but not this one im afraid.

Ford will build vehicles where the labour is cheap. It has nothing to do with ethics but simple economics. The UK is no longer a cheap place to do so and for it to survive if Article 50 is invoked is to make a low-wage, low-tax country.

Brilliant

Maybe because they screwed staff in Enfield, Basildon and Belfast out of their pensions they'd been contributing to for up to 30 years when they moved production to China and expected the tax payer to pick up the bill.

Mike Ashley must drive a Ford. Why support a company with such poor ethics?

I could barely get 55mpg on this and 40mpg on the 1.0 petrol

Probably a Vauxhall man :wink:

Why not?

About 15 years ago, the EC originally legislated that the only fuel economy figures that could be mentioned by manufacturers were those from the official EC lab tests. At first, these were reasonably realistic. Then the EC started turning the screws down on CO2 emissions, which are extrapolated from the fuel economy figures. So the only way car manufacturers could achieve increasingly lower CO2 was to tune their engines very specifically for the ECDC lab tests. The result is low CO2 for taxation purposes.

If you use a quality fuel, it will also improve the mpg.

I get exactly 60mpg

I have this exact model on a lease deal, have had it for 5 months now and just shy on 6k on the clock.

Mainly A roads and motorway for my daily work commute but a bit of a heavy right foot now and again too.

Sure, I wouldn't ever take a four year lease. The three-year deal is almost the same price net/month

New Fiesta out next year:

To be fair it becomes a more valid argurment at this price point in my opinion especially given this car hasn't had any major changes recently and is starting to look a little old.

​agreed

The correct answer. But I would add that it also depends on your driving conditions. If you are in the rush hour traffic in a busy town every day then mpg will be a lot less than breezing out into off-peak traffic.
Also if the first (engine cold) half mile of your commute is generally downhill, then your MPG will be much better than otherwise.

I have a petrol SUV which quotes 50MPG, and I get 49. Quoted figures are usually correct, just people don't understand what they mean.

Agree. Quoted Mpg figures are ridiculous. 36mpg from our 1.0T. 75% town diving. Great little car though

total cost: £6554 over 48months.
For that you can buy 2 years old Fiesta with less than 20k miles on it.. and keep it forever..

Not that I would buy a ford in first place...

What's the realistic mpg on these?

what on earth are you doing to get that you do realise it has 5 gears?lol

never had a car on a lease before can anyone tell me how insurance works on this do you have to have a special type of insurance and is he generally more expensive than if I own the car thanks for any help

Should be getting nearer 42mpg - use V-Pover Nitro+

I get 44mpg with my 1.5 ltr Fiesta diesel.

60mpg with mixture of town and motorway which i miss as i now have a focus 1ltr 125 ecoboost which is doing 39 mpg with 3000 miles on the clock.

I know haha, I have one myself, I get 40ish out of mine

The titanium model is only £6ish more a month which is a big step up from the zetec, and the 1.0 ecoboost (99HP) 65MPG is about £7 more a month over the 48 months.

I'd personally take a 36mth deal on this car for just £2 more net per month so that you dont have to worry about warranty issues

Most new Fords are fugly.
I have an 09 Zetec S Focus. Looks great compared to recent models.

I have a 1.0 ecoboost zetec s. After about 3 week I am stuck on around 44mpg, I dont do much motorway driving though so I think you could easily expect 50mpg as a minimum with motorway use.

My dad has a focus ecoboost and gets similar economy to me, so for general road use I think I'll struggle to get up to 50

Excellent deal!!