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gazz33
5 May 16
Entertainment system for video, games, music, pictures, apps.

Full Description
The Android X4+ has the new and improved S905 chipset alongside a 64-bit CPU provides faster app load times and overall smoother. Performance is up to 50% faster than older S805 chipset, which also means better 3D graphic processing capabilities.

The Android X4+ media player is compatible with 4K media files giving you full 4K resolution videos with ultra high quality crisp image and video quality.
The Android X4+ comes with the latest KODI media centre. Watch your favourite films or perhaps listen to great tunes from your external media. You can download hundreds of add ons available online to further enhance your KODI media centre.

The Android X4+ measures just 17mm tall and 90mm wide, making it the smallest Android media player in the Cyclone Android X4 series. This new small and simple design will look good in any home or environment.
Thanks to the built in Bluetooth 4.0 technology, you can expand your entertainment by adding additional devices such as speakers, headphones, keyboards and many other Bluetooth devices to this media player.

Android 5.1.1 provides a new user interface that makes Android easier to operate than ever before! There are millions of apps and games available for you to download - meaning you can expand your media player with an infinite amount of possibilities.

Specifications
CPU: Amlogic S905 Quad core Cortex A53 64bit 2.0Ghz
GPU: Penta-core Malix-450 GPU @750Mhz
RAM: 1GB DDR 3
Storage: 8GB
Micro SD: Up to 32GB
Input: 2 x USB port, 1 X micro SD/SDHC, 1 x AV, 1 x RJ45, 1 x SPDIF
Wi-Fi: Built in 2.4G Wi-Fi
LAN: Rj45/ Ethernet 10/100
Video output: HDMI 2.0 up to 4K, 1080p
Bluetooth: 4.0
Android: 5.1.1 Lollipop

What's included
1 x Media player
1 x Remote control
1 x HDMI cable
1 x Quick start guide
2 x AAA batteries
Top comments
morpheus
5 May 16 7 #5
1GB RAM, shame!
AndyRoyd to jasontimmins
6 May 16 4 #18
Assuming you want to avoid potential customs fees associated with foreign suppliers, probably overall best value performance & feature combination is £33 item with 2GB RAM & includes all the features that lesser boxes treat as optional http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172161272747
If cash v tight: high £20 dlvd http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311606461167 but that does not support x265/HEVC content whereas a high £22 item does http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172162064570.
OP item probably best value if you prefer a recognised brand combined with credible supplier and the perceived benefit associated with that combination, although £28 ebay items have hardware features & performance v similar to the OP Sumvision but with benefit of gigabit LAN that the OP Sumvision does not have http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231931881775.
ace9094
6 May 16 4 #21
Cant beat the Sumvision Cyclone 2+ (As long as you dont want to stream, play x265, install apps, use the Net, use emails,) Oh wait, you can beat it.... But I have SEVERAL android boxes / sticks and I still use my Clyclone 2+ the most... No buffering lol
hornetsam
5 May 16 3 #7
me either buddy was at the checkout but its near as amazon wi prime delivery
All comments (44)
hornetsam
5 May 16 #1
+ delivery ??
gazz33 to hornetsam
5 May 16 #2
didn’t see that, thanks
SpyJoe
5 May 16 #3
Is this better than Fire TV 2 or it's a completely different product?
morpheus
5 May 16 7 #5
1GB RAM, shame!
GibsonSt19 to morpheus
5 May 16 #6
What about this? Or this for a fiver more (with 2gb RAM and 16gb storage)?
hornetsam
5 May 16 3 #7
me either buddy was at the checkout but its near as amazon wi prime delivery
dobri39
5 May 16 1 #8
Where from
GibsonSt19
5 May 16 1 #9
Did you click the links?
AndyRoyd
5 May 16 2 #10
Cheapest s905-based boxes despatched from UK is typically circa £24.80 for 1GB RAM http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172181996970 and £32.99 for 2GB RAM http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391429167168 regardless of sellers' location. Check description(s) for included features.
gazz33
5 May 16 #11
Do they have a guarantee !
AndyRoyd
5 May 16 #12
Usual Paypal-enforced warranty.
jasontimmins
5 May 16 #13
what's the best value Android media player in your opinion?
gazz33 to jasontimmins
5 May 16 1 #14
With the comments on here it seems like anything on ebay with a paypal warranty under 6 months or this one with a 12 month warranty.
AndyRoyd to jasontimmins
6 May 16 4 #18
Assuming you want to avoid potential customs fees associated with foreign suppliers, probably overall best value performance & feature combination is £33 item with 2GB RAM & includes all the features that lesser boxes treat as optional http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172161272747
If cash v tight: high £20 dlvd http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311606461167 but that does not support x265/HEVC content whereas a high £22 item does http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172162064570.
OP item probably best value if you prefer a recognised brand combined with credible supplier and the perceived benefit associated with that combination, although £28 ebay items have hardware features & performance v similar to the OP Sumvision but with benefit of gigabit LAN that the OP Sumvision does not have http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231931881775.
pannan to jasontimmins
6 May 16 #22
​If you want a comprehensive guide to Kodi devices, see here: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=252916
RiverDragon8 to jasontimmins
6 May 16 #24
This is the best value android TV box delivered @ £30.32 http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_359008.html comes with S905 amologic chip and 2GB/16GB
Don't listen to anyone on here if they tell you you might get charged import taxes because you don't. Takes about 3 weeks to be delivered to you.
sully01
5 May 16 #15
...........?
sradmad
5 May 16 1 #16
good find op, heat added
gazz33 to sradmad
5 May 16 1 #17
Thanks sradmad
martinconroy
6 May 16 #19
Though "fully loaded" with Kodi add-ons that are likely to be broken and which the Kodi team are **** about. Don't support this sort of thing if you can avoid it. If you want certain add-ons, install them yourself, but don't encourage sellers to do this.
param84
6 May 16 #20
I have the Cyclone X4 which is quite old now but does the job for running Kodi. Although I have installed BBC iPlayer and Netflix in the past these two apps do not work well(may be different on this new version which has a better spec) and make the viewing unwatchable. I don't find Sumvision offer much in terms of updates. I had looked around for custom mods but with no luck.
ace9094
6 May 16 4 #21
Cant beat the Sumvision Cyclone 2+ (As long as you dont want to stream, play x265, install apps, use the Net, use emails,) Oh wait, you can beat it.... But I have SEVERAL android boxes / sticks and I still use my Clyclone 2+ the most... No buffering lol
scousetomo to ace9094
6 May 16 #25
my cyclone 2 atv 1200 is running pure linix build give that a try pal http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=180446
sspirit77
6 May 16 #23
I have the same think in a different brand, not brilliant & the operating system is very flaky, I ended up buying a Lenovo Idea stick 300 for £49.99 on offer, much better at streaming from my NAS as well as Netflix also good for Minecraft.
Charlie Browne
6 May 16 #26
You seriously seem to know what you are talking about. I am looking for a media player that is capable of playing 10 bit encoded MKV files, which the WD Media Player cannot, are any of these capable of that. Thanks in advance.
AndyRoyd
6 May 16 #27
Don't profess to be an expert, but I do tend to follow the pricing trends. I assume you mean 10bit x265/HEVC? If so, all s905 boxes have the hardware capability to play 10bit x265 smoothly in mkv and mp4 containers. I have found the combination of s905 and Kodi from v15+ to be more than capable of playing 10bit x265, yet even on the same s905 hardware, some players struggle with 10bit x265 (e.g MXplayer). Not sure about 10bit x264 cos never tried it.
Likely to see best performance on 10bit x265 via an s905 box with 2GB RAM; say £33 upwards.
kotr
6 May 16 #28
10/100 network card ain't much use for those with super high speed broadband.
Please correct me if I am wrong
Ross81
6 May 16 #29
I've got a Cyclone X4. Kodi came preinstalled but add-ons wouldn't work with it, had to reinstall stuff.... but now it runs well and handles HD streaming easily.
Charlie Browne
6 May 16 #30
Thanks for the quick response. When you said MX Player struggles with 10bit x265, did you mean this one http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_359008.html?utm_campaign=3743973&utm_source=cj&utm_medium=affiliate&from=affiliate_cj if so, my only option seems to be the £33 ebay one that you mentioned. I will give this a go.
AndyRoyd
7 May 16 #31
Some misinterpretation. MXplayer mentioned in prev post is an Android app. The Gearbest item you link to will be fine for 10bit x265 when used with a recent build of Kodi. It is other software on the same player that may struggle to fully utilise the s905's decoding capability for 10bit x265 content.
Contrary to other sweeping statement earlier in thread, any item directly sourced from overseas may be pulled by customs. If so, that specific item will be charged circa £14 in fees regardless of the supplier's declaration of say 15 USD value. It really is a customs lottery with items purchased directly from far east.
RiverDragon8
7 May 16 #32
If you bought anything from Gearbest before you would know they mark the value down so you don't have to pay any import taxes. Anything thing over £15 your liable but in this case they will mark it down as $20. Stop scaremongering on this thread and other deals concerning products from the far east.
AndyRoyd
7 May 16 2 #33
In humour: are you so confident that customs fees will never be applied to a Gearbest purchase that you will personally cover any customs fees that HMRC levy on any HUKD members' purchases?
Credit our county's HMRC staff with some intelligence: if they decide to pull and open a package, are they really going to believe the coulouful value declaration that Gearbest has stated on the customs label?
I have bought a number of items from far east and luckily only been hit for VAT&admin once. Stating that a package "may" get pulled for fees is far more realistic than suggesting it will not.
For the pickers of nit: https://www.gov.uk/goods-sent-from-abroad/tax-and-duty
RiverDragon8
7 May 16 #34
They have bigger fish to catch. 10'000's of little white parcel go through custom everyday, they know the market is flooded with cheap chinese goods from the far east. The parcel is marked down a HD media player and as a gift with a value $20 so will let it through. I'm 100% certain you won't get stung with any import taxes. I've bought over 20+ items from China and not once have I or will I ever pay any import taxes. Even if they did pull up your parcel (which they won't) how are they going to determine the value when there is no invoice inside? that's why they don't bother.
AndyRoyd
7 May 16 #35
Previous experiences with customs fees mentioned in Gearbest thread last month post #22
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/voyo-q901hd-3g-9-7-inch-phablet-70-22-delivered-from-gearbest-eu-warehouse-2415070?p=27623044
RiverDragon8
7 May 16 #36
If you use a courier like DHL then yes if shipping from the far east. That's why Gearbest use standard shipping and it takes more than 2-4 weeks to deliver to you. If they use a courier service like DHL then there is a chance your going to get hit but on the other hand you will get your parcel within 5 days.

VAT
You pay VAT on goods sent from non-European Union (EU) countries and EU special territories (eg the Canary Islands) if they’re:

gifts worth more than £34
other goods worth more than £15
alcohol, tobacco products and fragrances (eg perfume, eau de toilette and cologne) of any value

All goods bought from Gearbest is marked down as a gift with a value of $20 so no import tax.

Your using a bad example, that deal was from Gearbest shipped from an EU warehouse so no import tax regardless.
AndyRoyd
7 May 16 #37
We're in danger of hijacking thread, so my final comment re import-related fees:
HMRC use the "declared value" as a guide. Don't even bother trying to argue the value when HMRC don't agree with the sender's colourful marked-down price.
Repeat of first two words from sentence quoting example thread mentioning import fees: "Previous experiences".
RiverDragon8
7 May 16 #38
I speak from experience because i know whats what, if you go by everything you read from google search engine fine. You and google know best. Try sharing your own experience instead of assuming or reading somewhere on google.
dar72
9 May 16 #39
Do these devices just run Android with kodi and stuff pre-installed?

I'm just looking for an Android device to plug into a screen in my home gym to stream videos via DLNA and music via MPD and sometimes play files locally from an SD Card, USB stick etc. Don't want Kodi, find the interface cumbersome and there won't be any metadata for my videos anyway. I don't care about television or streaming anything from outside of my network.

I just want ES File Explorer, AnDLNA and MPDroid, maybe a PDF reader without having to plug my tablet in to the HDMI but on something that can actually play the videos, I wanted to use a Pi for this but it seems it's not really up to the task.

Do these things actually give me what I need or are they just under-powered gimmicks? Ideally I'd want to be spending closer to £20
ace9094 to dar72
9 May 16 #40
WOW, you dont want much for £20 :smile: - to be honest you get what you pay for... some devices will do the tasks you need, but really you might be better off spending a few more quid and getting something that can handle your request.

Good luck mate
dar72
9 May 16 #41
Well there are some for £20, £25 etc. I'm just asking if those ones are up to what I want to do with them....which is a lot less than what other people want to do with them, such as, I don't want to run Kodi. I want to run three or four Android apps, all that probably require less than Kodi so you're correct, I don't want much for £20.

According to the marketing, the £20 ones should do what I want, however I'm hesitant because of the Raspberry Pi which is also often marketed as a Kodi box and the performance is shockingly bad.
AndyRoyd
10 May 16 #42
Not seen an example of the £20 item you mention, but considering the least-cost S905-based item is now under £24 delivered ex-UK and will tick all the boxes you mention, you could satisfy yourself that such an item will play anything you throw at it including x265/HEVC @ 10bit which other platforms fail, although you may need to retain Kodi to do tick those particular boxes. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172075942895 and is even stated as having bluetooth which is unheard of in a UK-supplied S905 item at this pricepoint.
hotshot
11 May 16 #43
Will this connect to a sat dish ? Anyone know a good box that would do this for me for live tv and sports ?
AndyRoyd to hotshot
11 May 16 #44
No. S905-based box with DVB-S2/T2 features would be circa £69 ex-UK http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231939870214 or example £53 ex-China http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291761106666. Previous-gen S805-based about £15 - £20 less.
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