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The KD49X8005C is quite simply, a great 4K Smart TV. Powered by the 4K Processor X1 chip, content is upscaled to its best 4K resolution which brings a stunning quality to all the available entertainment. Android brings all the personalization, intelligence and entertainment of your Smartphone on to the 49-inch screen. YouView is on hand to provide a seven day scroll back TV guide. And PlayStation Now streams PS3 games directly to your TV.
4K Ultra-HD Processor X1
Behind the ultra high definition picture is a powerful processor so you watch everything with stunning colour, clarity and contrast. Whatever you are watching, from TV broadcasts, Blu-rays, DVDs or even 4K Internet videos, the picture is boosted to 4K Ultra HD clarity with greater contrast and more lifelike colours.
Smooth motion
Reducing blur and judder is Motionflow XR 200HZ. From sports and fast-moving action, to documentary dramas, whatever you watch will look noticeably smoother, sharper and more natural.
Android TV
Your Smart TV has just got smarter with Android*. Developed by Google,
you'll be able to enjoy seamless entertainment, intelligent search and the latest apps from the likes of Google Play and Netflix. All the personalization, intelligence and entertainment of your Smartphone or tablet can be easily viewed on the Sony TV too which takes your viewing experience to the next level.
YouView Catch-Up
In addition to a wealth of online entertainment, this set comes with built-in YouView. The seven day scroll back TV guide brings together catch up TV from across BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4oD and Demand 5. You can also enjoy over 70 live TV channels and radio stations for free, such as BBC 1, 2 & 3, ITV, Channel 4, E4, Channel 5, 5 USA, ITV 2 and Dave.
Additional entertainment
The X8005 even has PlayStation Now. This streams PS3 games straight across to your TV with no discs and no consoles required. You can choose from hundreds of classic games or catch up on games you have missed for the first time, at a low rental cost – all you’ll need is a DUALSHOCK 4 wireless controller (sold separately) and a broadband internet connection.
Compatible with the Sony 49-inch TV is One-Flick Entertainment which enables you to comfortably flick your way through TV schedules, web clips, photos and more on the ultra-responsive touchpad area. The One-Flick Touchpad Remote (sold separately) is even enabled with NFC (Near-Field Communication) so you can share photos wirelessly from your Smart device straight to the TV screen, at a single touch.
Top comments
vanderwyse
8 May 1626#26
I urge any prospective buyer to read their vicious returns policy. It's a 'simplified minefield' - you're not allowed too many wrong steps.
In other words, you can unpack it (and consider its mediocre aesthetics), but the moment you've plugged it in to set up and yes...evaluate its image quality, you're stuffed.
They will do anything imaginable to stop you from returning the tv if you, for whatever reason and fully within your rights, decide to change your mind. They wanted to retain 45% of the tv's price in my case, so I've had to put mine on eBay as a result. Needless to say, I won't be buying from them ever again.
Please consider alternative purchasing sources carefully if you'd rather avoid a mighty headache no to mention financial loss.
gap30
8 May 1615#45
Re: the laggy comment
Disable Sony shelf and Sony select apps and turn off notifications for the apps
Install advanced task killer pro
Install SD maid pro
Install sideload launcher by chain fire
Turn off wireless if not using it
Turn off Bluetooth
Turn on developer mode and change animations to 0.5
Helps a lot
andrewb366 to LuFc6686
8 May 1612#4
I wouldn't know much about the 43inch models, However I purchased the 49inch 8005CB two weeks ago from Tesco Direct and cannot fault it at all. The picture quality is crisp, terrific user interface and the colours are second to none. Blurriness, grain and flickering is certainly not an issue, Just played Mad Max on BR via PS4 and it looks great to me!
LuFc6686
8 May 165#2
Got the 43in version of these and imo they are awful, picture quality sucks compared to my old JVC. Everything seems blurry, lots of grain and a lot of flickering. I plugged my PS4 in to play Mad Max and the picture was terrible. The smart menu and apps constantly freeze.. Avoid
Latest comments (150)
Ross101
9 Jul 16#150
[i] have been using this for a few weeks now and I notice the dirty screen effect. Does anyone have a solutionfor this
KayeeEn
18 May 16#149
The problem is this - the picture (dark scenes, black borders etc) is acceptable in relatively strong natural daylight. This screen is very reflective. But once you watch in the evening, in an average lit room (60 - 100w), you can't help notice that in scenes where it should be dark, there's a greyish black tint / shimmer. A bit like someone's got the brightness turned up more than they should. I keep going back to the advanced contrast blurb on their marketing for this set.
There's also I think what they call DSE - dirty screen effect, where it's noticeable in light solid colours and especially when the shot is panning. Check ITV when the scroll now, next, then at the bottom half of the screen. You might even notice it when wtahcing football for example.
jonboy32
16 May 16#148
Your TV must be faulty.
My TV has blacks that are too black if anything.
It needs a fair bit of tweaking to find a good setting that shows the detail in dark areas.
KayeeEn
15 May 16#147
Oh, and anyone else think their screen is dirty?
Something just isn't right with my set, but due to AO's awkard returns policy, I'm nervous getting touch with them. Won't be using or recommending them to anyone for this point alone.
KayeeEn
15 May 16#146
Well, I've unpacked mine again to give it another whirl. No matter what settings I try, I just cannot get the blacks to be how it should be. Can't believe how crap this TV is - really think I've have done the same, if not better, with a budget panel!
Comparing to my Sony 37" from a few years ago, the blacks on which I didn't find great (my LG 42LN543V was better), this 49x8005 is even worse. Currently watching the Queen's 90th on ITV. Scenes with dark backgrounds are grey. This is under normal lighting conditions. I don't expect it to be black, but should be darker tan what it is. So much for their advance contrast - I'd have probably been happier with the recent Argos / Philips offering!
smokedog
14 May 161#145
Something I found useful on XDA, credit goes to nyteryder79.
Get Rid of the "Featured Apps" Section
1. Go to Settings -> Apps
2. Look for an app called "Sony Shelf"
3. Force Close it
4. Set Notifications to "Off"
Get Rid of the "Sony Select" App and its Recommendations
1. Go to Settings -> Apps
2. Look for an app called "Sony Select"
3. Force Close it
4. Set Notifications to "Off"
mum2oneplustwins
13 May 16#144
I've just realised you get an amazing picture in a room that looks like you have lots of natural daylight in! That's really good.
ebilcake1
12 May 16#143
Not yet, no.
Don't see any reason why they won't at some point.
ebilcake1
12 May 16#142
The black levels on this set are a bit extreme at first, took a bit of playing around to get the detail back.
Finding a balance between crushed blacks and detail in dark scenes is a bit tricky.
Ended up disabling most of the black/contrast options, the most annoying setting was the dynamic contrast which is constantly being adjusted and is very distracting when switching from light and dark scenes.
Still well worth the money.
Ross101
12 May 16#141
Just bought one! Can't argue with the price it's a steal!
ebilcake1
12 May 16#140
Not sure it supports 2160p via the Android app,
ebilcake1
12 May 16#139
Yes, via the Android Netflix app which comes preinstalled.
y0rkiebar
11 May 16#138
Anyone recommend a decent stand for this ?
adrians8
11 May 16#137
I think it's time to replace my 9 year old 40inch Sony bravia...is there anything better in this price range? I don't really know what to buy and this is looking really good, can people help please
KayeeEn
11 May 161#136
2160p is 4k. True/native 4k is 4096 x 2160, but 3860 x 2160 has been adopted.
I think 2K refers to 1080p content.
smokedog
11 May 161#135
If you look at the quality settings, you'll notice their video's only go up to 2K (2160p). Looks bloody amazing already in 2k, 4k would blow my socks off.
mum2oneplustwins
11 May 16#134
Thanks. Look for that online, then follow instructions to install?
sboothy
11 May 161#133
That is my favorite 4K video on Youtube, the detail is incredible
Anil90
10 May 16#132
I don't want to anyway seems okay for now if its faulty i'll just go to Sony comes with year warranty
qwerta369
10 May 16#131
Because you have not tried to return your purchase.
Anil90
10 May 16#130
I just got my new Sony 4K TV from Ao.com not sure why theres lots of bad reviews everything went smoothly TV works fine.
msharif911
10 May 161#129
There are loads of other add ons. UKTurk is just one add on. Try "Stream All The Sources" that's pretty much the only one I need.
christopherrosenfeld
10 May 161#128
I saw the picture on the "Sony Bravia KD43X83 LED 4K" and the picture quality is impressive for the price. However I can't work out the difference between the models. E.G. KD49X8005CBU / KD43X83 / KDL43W80 (apart from screen size obviously and the KDL is a 3D TV. Are they all the same screen technology and series??
I can't seem to get round the android / YouView issues. Again, what is the root cause, poor programming or the processor not handling the updates / android software? Not sure it's worth it, "you get what you pay for" comes to mind.
RufusG
9 May 162#127
Back in stock
smokedog
9 May 162#126
Click the "Action Menu" button and move the cursor to the right. If PiP is available it will show up on the menu.
oceanic
9 May 16#125
how do you get picture in picture with this thing?
I just increased the brightness up to 10 and colour to 62.
KayeeEn
9 May 16#123
Really?
Would you mind sharing your settings please?
jonnye
9 May 16#122
unavailable :-(
smokedog
9 May 16#121
The black level on my set is very good. In fact probably too good, I can't see much but black in dark scenes.
The major issue for me is the reflection, watching stuff like GoT is a very challenging/near impossible in strong daylight.
For the price I'm enjoying this TV very much. Having Plex and YouTube is a Godsent. Colour, SD upscaling excellent and YouTube quality are outstanding.
Oh the colours
mum2oneplustwins
8 May 16#35
I bought this after seeing the Tesco Direct thread the other week. Good TV. It's a bit laggy so that's something to be aware of. Wish I could figure out how to run Kodi properly. Anyone have a good link to any tips?
andrewb366 to mum2oneplustwins
8 May 163#40
I have had no problem running kodi straight from the app store and then downloading 'the beast' addon for all packages.
Just buy using a credit card. When you come to return it and they refuse to give you your money back, have the credit card company reverse the transaction. AO only play this game because they know enough people will give up and take the hit, allowing them to cover the total cost of all returns.
Here's the relevant text from MSE:
If the retailer isn't playing ball it may be easier to go to your card provider
If you’re struggling to get a retailer to listen to the fact you have consumer rights, then in some circumstances, assuming you’re eligible, claiming from the credit card company under Section 75 can prove easier. There are a number of reasons for this:
Credit card companies have deeper pockets.
If you’re claiming something substantial from a small firm, it may fight tooth and nail and force you to go to court to get redress, as it can’t afford to pay out so will make it difficult for you to get your money back. Yet credit card companies are huge beasts, and have deeper pockets so this is less of an issue.
If the credit card firm turns you down, you can go to the Ombudsman, not court.
This is an important difference. First the Financial Ombudsman Service is free, while even in the small claims court you pay a fee, which is only returned if you win.
More importantly, the court only looks at the law, while the Ombudsman looks at:
The law, or
Standard industry practice, or
Whether you've been treated fairly and reasonably
The last one especially gives you extra hope if your case falls foul of the letter of the law, but your treatment hasn’t been right.
deany76 to satchef1
9 May 16#118
Yes buy on a credit card for extra gaurantee, but far better buy from- JLP, Costco or amazon (fulfilled by amazon) and avoid the quibble, time & hassle. The CC route I would prefer not to use.
ps
I hate credit cards but the Post Office is 27 months interest free plus 3 months accident,theft, loss etc purchase insurance FREE.- amazing
DanManchester
9 May 162#116
Just want to thank the posters that pointed out the outrageous returns policy of AO...I had no idea! I won't be faffing about ordering anything from them ever again, no matter what the saving is :smiley:
3.1415926
9 May 161#115
John Lewis don't price match website only retailers, such as ao.com. They would Tescos as that is a bricks and mortar store.
Melbury
8 May 16#48
Has anyone tried getting John Lewis to price match on this?
mum2oneplustwins to Melbury
8 May 161#62
On the other thread, yes, JL were price matching but then it was out of stock.
Hiyayou to Melbury
8 May 16#98
They told me they have sold out. Shame really, the TVs sounds great.
ScottishIndependence2018 to Melbury
9 May 16#114
John Lewis will price match this when i tried to do price match the same tv they took a bit long on getting back to me, and the deal was gone with Tesco, but they said if i see it again not to hesitate on contacting them, so there a good bunch
this model is out of stock at mo on JL, so just keep an eye open if it returns, like myself it's a no brainer with JL, hope this helps
soz you must be able to purchase the item online as well as the shop to get price match
dead4red69
9 May 16#113
Every review I read for this set praised the black levels, I think you must either have a faulty set or have it collaborated poorly
jayjayuk1234
9 May 16#112
AO = cold
scotjam
9 May 161#111
I don't know if cc terms will help with distance selling compliance (I suspect not) but if I recall correctly there's an article on MoneySavingExpert that explains that if you pay *any* amount on credit card (even £1) you get the protection that one gets from using a credit card. Don't quote me on it though - check the article on MSE
kd035050
9 May 16#110
Unavailable
HankMcSpank
8 May 16#94
When you first turn this TV on from standby .....is the ability to switch inputs (e.g. HDMI1, HDMI2) locked out for about 40 seconds? (because it is with my present (recent) Sony....which sends me potty)
joeybutterface to HankMcSpank
8 May 16#95
Sounds like a fault. The bravia engine in Sony TVs is fast and fluid and industry-leading. I've never experienced any UI lag with Sony. They are the best.
kaiser051 to HankMcSpank
9 May 161#109
I have this same issue with my sony on start up i get round it by using the hdmi select button on the side of tv,it is locked out and laggy with the remote for the first 40 seconds or so but works fine using the side buttons on tv
KayeeEn
9 May 16#108
LG 42LN543V (or 540V)
Not 4k or anything. Not perfect, as there are dimming issues when dynamic contrast is enabled, but definitely better than this POS in my opinion even when off. Now that's a statement. The viewing experience is like night and day.
It really does make this look like a budget screen. And to think people who bought the recent Philips 43", 49" 4K TVs from Argos complaining about the greyness of the blacks .....
mike_freegan
8 May 16#107
Can anyone confirm that this actually plays YouTube at 4k? I'm hearing mixed reports
n1ck09
8 May 16#106
Thanks, much appreciated
deany76
8 May 16#105
is there a % minimum that has to be paid on your credit card to enjoy section 75 cover
£1,000 item
£100 on credit card (deposit)
£900 paid on a debit card
cheers
Also is it just faulty goods or will they help with "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" formally distance selling regs on a RETURN problems i.e. done duedil but not happy with quality of product (but not faulty).
Extract .... "The user interface takes something of a toll on startup times, with the TV being all but unresponsive for the first 30 seconds after switching on from standby. This is fine if you remembered to set the channel or input when you last turned it off, but it's frustrating when you want to watch a Blu-ray or play a game, but can't switch inputs from another endless repeat of Top Gear on Dave for half a minute"
...it's made me quite reticent to buy a Sony again....hence asking the question - so, again...for those who have this TV, are you able to switch between sources immediately after power on?
mum2oneplustwins
8 May 16#103
:man:
sinstripe
8 May 16#102
Is AO a member?
dan_de_la_peche
8 May 16#101
Just bought this, nice one, OP. Got a soundbar so the weak speakers don't bother me, and there's some guy on eBay selling the touch remote for £20. Awesome upgrade to my six year old Samsung TV. Looking forward to trying to get MAME to work on it...
deany76
8 May 16#100
Would hate to want to return this item after opening the box- ".......However, if you have used it beyond this, this may have a knock on effect on our ability to sell it to someone else and so where the value of the product is reduced by your use we may only make a partial refund (equal such reduced value) or subsequently charge you for the reduction in value. "
This would DEFINITLY envolve a quibble & having to quote the "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" formally distance selling regs" on wanting to RETURN.
If you want a hassle a free life AVOID. go to JLP, Costco or amazon.co.uk (fullfilled by amazon).
MrJinxy
8 May 163#74
For Kodi builds for this TV I recommend the Titanium Build. I can say it works great. Got all the add ons you need. Instructions here:
Had this tv for a while now, got it when it was on offer in Costco but haven't played around with it much, installed kodi the first day I got it but only used it for playing stuff from my NAS drive, just installed titanium and it's brilliant so far. Anyone know if you can plug a USB stick in to enable pausing of live TV? Also anyone got a good guide to setting up emulators on this?
bojangles
8 May 16#97
Would love to see someone taking them to court if they tried that on!
Im tempted to order something. throw the packaging & return it unused in blank packaging & see what they have to say.
parkersblock
8 May 16#96
No, please stop.
LuFc6686
8 May 161#93
Calling bull on what?
mivanpy
8 May 161#92
Calling bull
bringit
8 May 16#73
I have this and find the sound awful compared to the 8 year old plasma it replaced. Has anyone played around with the sound settings? Is there an optimal setting?
mattj75 to bringit
8 May 16#91
To quote the Which? review:
"Compared with its picture, this TV's sound falls rather flat. Everything's a bit hollow due to the lack of low base, and speech sounds tinny and nasal. You're probably going to want to attach a sound bar or home-cinema system to improve the audio and you can do so via HDMI ARC or the digital audio outputs (with support for 5.1 Dolby Digital)."
Not bought this TV (yet) so can't help re optimal settings
spannerzone
8 May 16#90
I guess we did
gap30
8 May 16#89
So basically you never had any intention to buy it
We got there in the end
KayeeEn
8 May 161#85
Anyone watching Attenborough at 90 on BBC One at the moment?
I am on the LG and the blacks when they show the audience is what I expect. I would imagine on the Sony which I've packed away for now, those dark areas will be tinged with a hint of grey? Also notice that when they show clips with black borderes, I would expect those borders to be nearly as dark as the black bezel.
If I recall, this is something which upset me when I installed the Sony.
nobbyogden to KayeeEn
8 May 16#88
Which LG do you have mate? Do they do it in a 48/49?
Thanks
LuFc6686
8 May 161#87
About 5 years old. Nothing low quality about it
AStonedRaichu
8 May 163#1
200hz? :disappointed:
LOUGHBORO GUY to AStonedRaichu
8 May 162#5
That's what I thought !
spannerzone to AStonedRaichu
8 May 164#13
You need more?
UK TV is broadcast at 50Hz so the TV is quadroupling the same frame 4 times to get this magical 200Hz rate. Often this image processing makes things look worse than better. fast action sports may benefit but don't get sucked into the numbers game. More Hz isn't a measurable reference when all the sources are typically at 50 or 60Hz. Some TV's may make a decent job (like this one) but 200Hz is plenty..... and the 600Hz you see from Panasonic are a bit of a technical swiz of sorts as only elements of the image are processed at 600Hz.
Hot deal as far as I can see.
Minstadave to AStonedRaichu
8 May 161#14
Stupidly high refresh rates are largely nonsense, just gives that weird overly fluid motion effect. The TV is simply guessing the information for each frame above your source.
dflorin3 to AStonedRaichu
8 May 16#86
people eyes can not see the difference above 90-100 hz..that's just a number for you to spend more money on it :wink:
n1ck09
8 May 161#49
Can anyone with this TV offer the dimensions of the base? Want to make sure it will fit on my shelf.
Pick up an old CRT from freecycle for an extra £25 off trade-in if I'm not mistaken too.
LazyJesus to n1ck09
8 May 161#84
The widest point (back legs) is 65 cms and depth (front to back) is 25 cms. For what it's worth I think this TV is great value for the money and I'm very happy with it. Please feel free to ask any other questions.
spannerzone
8 May 161#83
Christ on a bike, yes I've done all that on phones in the past and I DON'T want to do it on my main TV, phones yes, TV no. Maybe it's because I just want to turn on the TV and think nothing more of it's operation so as another poster says, either don't buy it or ignore those features. Clearly this TV is not for everyone, sorry to have hit a nerve, you're clearly very passionate about this TV. I bow to your superior Android knowledge, I must say it's turning me on a little so I'll take a cold shower.
I think I'll pass on this deal :confused:
HottyHotty
8 May 163#82
You must be fighting the ladies off with a stick!
matthahnsmail
8 May 162#81
Do not buy this TV. It blows up every time I put it on channel 5
LuFc6686
8 May 165#2
Got the 43in version of these and imo they are awful, picture quality sucks compared to my old JVC. Everything seems blurry, lots of grain and a lot of flickering. I plugged my PS4 in to play Mad Max and the picture was terrible. The smart menu and apps constantly freeze.. Avoid
andrewb366 to LuFc6686
8 May 1612#4
I wouldn't know much about the 43inch models, However I purchased the 49inch 8005CB two weeks ago from Tesco Direct and cannot fault it at all. The picture quality is crisp, terrific user interface and the colours are second to none. Blurriness, grain and flickering is certainly not an issue, Just played Mad Max on BR via PS4 and it looks great to me!
mrparm to LuFc6686
8 May 16#21
Thinking of buying the 43 inch version - have you updated the TV?
mivanpy to LuFc6686
8 May 16#67
But really?
PigStix to LuFc6686
8 May 16#69
Not sure which 43in model you got but according to Sony Website this model (X8005) only comes in 49 or 55. Maybe yours is in a different range?
Fallen1992 to LuFc6686
8 May 161#80
How old is the JVC in Question? JVC is now mostly sold Via Currys as an Entry-level brand of low quality and hasn't been a good brand for around 10 years now.
djames108
8 May 161#79
it does work without addons as it a media player......if of course your on about watching TV films etc that's fairly simple. I would guess that the content your searching for is illegal however so this wouldn't be the place to help :smirk:
gap30
8 May 162#78
So if you have had 6 android phones you have never:
Rooted
Installed TWRP/Clockwork
Installed xposed
Used Greenify/Amplify to hibernate/disable system apps
This is just a TV with an androlid OS built in as you quite correctly stated
So lets forget the TV part for a minute, i have an LG G4 running CM13
I get five and a half hours on screen time and a 3 day average battery life
Any product i own that has Android on it i tweak (to get the best out of Android)
That theory applies here, to get the best out of the OS it needs a little tweaking
Hell on XDA there is a guy who can fastboot/adb into his Sony Android TV - root wont be far off hopefully (then this set will really shine)
And as regards disabling wifi you IMO you need your head testing if you are using wifi (to stream kodi etc)
afroylnt
8 May 16#77
Doesn't it depend on the team?.......:stuck_out_tongue:
GaryStoke
8 May 161#43
DO NOT BUY FROM AO.COM. I bought this from them 1 week ago, it does not work properly and they are doing everything possible to avoid having it back.
Juanpablo to GaryStoke
8 May 163#46
Under sale of goods act they have to have it back if faulty. If you paid by CREDIT card tell them you will seek a refund from your card company. That will do it!
"Section 75 covers card refund for faulty goods
Section 75 is fantastic protection. It means if you order something and if the retailer goes kaput, you can still claim your money back from the credit card provider (even if you've since closed your credit card account).
Section 75 applies to most, but not all, credit card agreements. Credit cards are the main area covered, but the law also applies to store cards, store instalment credit and some car finance agreements (though not hire purchase).
Plus, even if the problem is just non-delivery or faulty goods, you have exactly the same rights from the credit provider as from the retailer, flight company or supplier"
Take into consideration that HDR panels will be the norm for new 2016 TV's , but will cost you around £1000 for a basic HDR model and there is very little content that has HDR at this time , For the price of £459 for this panel ! id say its a brilliant deal.
LuFc6686
8 May 16#71
It's actually one of the better models I have i think. KD43X8305C
AStonedRaichu
8 May 16#70
Football in 4k just looks so much more fluid on a 400hz+ TV
ajavaid92
8 May 16#50
Have a Sony W8 series TV (KDL50W829). Would this be an upgrade or downgrade, anyone?
mivanpy to ajavaid92
8 May 161#68
You have a great set that will keep you going easily for a good few years at least unless you are so keen for 4k material. The picture quality on the w829 is nothing short of beautiful. Best screen for watching football, playing games. And just in general HD content.
Chris777uk
8 May 161#66
I bought this TV from amazon warehouse - no complaints here - great TV, packed full of features, no problems with Android OS (it auto updates once connected on first launch), no problems with PS4. Good clarity, deep contrast and crisp 4k!
Motion could be slightly better for football (but absolutely fine on most counts) and great for the price.
Recommended TV!
parkersblock
8 May 162#65
People are largely clueless. I'm suprised theres not a million posts about HDR.. (although I haven't read the whole thread)
mum2oneplustwins
8 May 16#64
Thanks.Yes, you can install Kodi off the Play Store but it won't run without add ons. Different to using Kodi on the phone. On the phone, I was able to download the setup wizard but it's unavailable on here.
I found this guide, which installs a UKTurk playlist but I got no HD channels and the films are all terrible SD quality. Odd.
mum2oneplustwins
8 May 16#60
Thank you! Still needs a bit of work I'd say.
jinxyjenkz
8 May 16#59
Can you get the HDR update for this model?
djames108
8 May 16#58
the TV works fine....... as for the updates stopping eventually, this won't affect the operation of the tv. the only pitfall may be newer apps may not work as the android version becomes more and more dated. saying that however android 4.4 still works very well and is compatible with most apps and that's ancient now so I dont forsee a problem.
If you are that worried though then just don't buy it.....it's very simple. get a bog standard TV and buy an android box. same issue there though with updates so no way round it if you want a smart devicr
djames108
8 May 16#57
or just go straight on the play store seach kodi and install......as easy as installing any other app.
this is an excellent TV and the android is fantastic, not the fastest system in the world but it's not exactly a high end phone or tablet.
it does the job perfectly well
sto1
8 May 161#56
Use AO at your peril - Try and return it and you will get stung
We're happy for you to unpack the item and inspect it properly, however, if you've used or installed it, we will only make a partial refund to cover the loss in value of the product. Please note, this could be up to 50% of the price of the item
merrycherry
8 May 162#55
Search for "install ares wizard on kodi" for a guide to installing a good build.
gap30
8 May 1615#45
Re: the laggy comment
Disable Sony shelf and Sony select apps and turn off notifications for the apps
Install advanced task killer pro
Install SD maid pro
Install sideload launcher by chain fire
Turn off wireless if not using it
Turn off Bluetooth
Turn on developer mode and change animations to 0.5
Helps a lot
spannerzone to gap30
8 May 162#52
Hmm that sounds like a good reason to not incorporate an OS into a TV!
spannerzone to gap30
8 May 162#54
Don't know how you came to that conclusion - I've had About 6 Android phones, so I do have an idea, the regular updates, the bugs, the quirks and so on. I'd be concerned that to get my TV to work properly I'd have to frigg about with the OS. Sure a smart TV sounds good in principle and especially if the smart features don't actually stop the basic premise of a TV from working but sounds like Android on this can bork the day to day functionality of the TV.
I'd expect a smart TV to not get software support after a period of time for the apps, but it does concern me when the basic TV features can be affected too and a load of tweaks need applying to get over the shortcomings. I mean turning off wifi and bluetooth? that's a feature you may want so seems nuts it needs disabling to get the thing to work. Also Sony almost certainly won't provide updates after a couple of years so do most of the nice smart features fizzle out? this seems to happen to almost all smart TV's and blu ray players.
I just want a great picture not bothered about smart porn etc
madhouse77
8 May 161#42
Dammm just ordered from Tesco yesterday for £499, its being delivered Tuesday :smirk:
msharif911
8 May 16#39
As this is Android, can you install Kodi on it?
qwerta369
8 May 162#38
Please post back the outcome.
captainbeaky
8 May 163#37
I was going to buy a TV from AO a few months ago when there was a good promo code offer but after reading their returns policy I decided to buy elsewhere - even if it meant spending a few squid more.
Disco Dave
8 May 16#36
£25 trade in offer as well
Disco Dave
8 May 16#34
Topcashback
KayeeEn
8 May 16#33
I'm sure image quality is subjective to a cetain degree, but I think there's some mes-leading advertising here with Sony.
I'm experiencing the kind of rubbish contrast as shown to the left (probably not as bad, but you get my point), but expected something closer to that shown on the right
vanderwyse
8 May 163#32
Precisely. Spent 90 minutes on the phone with these charlatans explaining the relevant law, but they were on a mission to frustrate my legal rights to return the product. I am currently pursuing the matter with the Retail Ombudsman.
joeybutterface
8 May 163#31
Indeed, I wouldn't buy anything from a company with such an outrageous restocking fee on principle. That is shocking stuff.
qwerta369
8 May 161#30
Precisely the awful AO experiences I was talking about.
Precisely the type of complaints with this TV I was talking about.
Choose a different TV and never buy from AO.com
qwerta369
8 May 162#29
..and so depriving their customers of their legal right to inspect the item in their home for up to 14 days from receipt.
KayeeEn
8 May 162#28
I'm glad you're enjoying your unit andrewb366.
However, I just cannot say the same with mine, maybe I have a faulty unit - I don't know. But as far as I'm concerned, the way the unit deals with blacks in normal daylight just isn't good enough compared to my 42 LG (which is also an IPS panel). So if you were to watch a film with top and bottom borders now, the LG is perfect black, but with this Sony, there's a greyish tint to it no matter what settings you apply. I also find it strange that ifyou move off centre to say 45 degrees to the right, the whites on the screen becomes dullish grey (and other colours for that matter) - like if you applied a grey tint; not normal for an IPS panel I think?
I wonder if there's a panel lottery with these? When was your unit produced?
See, to me, I thought I bought a premium brand, but I feel it is some budget 4k no brand TV I'm using!
I'm at a loss with AO, as I have previously mentioned, that if I were to report this and the powering on issues as faults, they may they find 'nothing wrong' and charge me God knows what .....
applebyJedi
8 May 161#19
Can you get 4K Netflix on this tv?
andrewb366 to applebyJedi
8 May 16#24
Yes you sure can. Prime video Ultra HD 4K content is available as well.
gallshau to applebyJedi
8 May 16#27
dont think so... but honestly the picture is so amazing on netflixs that even if its not officially 4k, its pretty damn close to it!
vanderwyse
8 May 1626#26
I urge any prospective buyer to read their vicious returns policy. It's a 'simplified minefield' - you're not allowed too many wrong steps.
In other words, you can unpack it (and consider its mediocre aesthetics), but the moment you've plugged it in to set up and yes...evaluate its image quality, you're stuffed.
They will do anything imaginable to stop you from returning the tv if you, for whatever reason and fully within your rights, decide to change your mind. They wanted to retain 45% of the tv's price in my case, so I've had to put mine on eBay as a result. Needless to say, I won't be buying from them ever again.
Please consider alternative purchasing sources carefully if you'd rather avoid a mighty headache no to mention financial loss.
KayeeEn
8 May 163#25
Not if you have used the product though and are not happy with it. Only applies if sealed, or strangely enough if only unpacked but not used.
qwerta369
8 May 163#20
Is this the model that's received loads of complaints on the other thread, and aren't AO the firm who illegally charge you 45% to return an item you legitimately return within 14 days of purchase?
andrewb366 to qwerta369
8 May 161#23
This model has received a feedback rating of 4.5/5 on Tesco Direct, AO and Co-Operative electronics. I also have one myself and like I have said previously I cannot fault the TV at all.
With regards to AO.com I have never purchased anything from the site although as far as I know they implement a 14 days free of charge returns policy if you are not 100% with the product. The site is reliable and offer a great deal on a range of electrical goods which is why they were rated the top online retailer of July 2015 by Which.
gap30
8 May 16#22
Got two of the refurbished 55 inch ones the other week
More than happy - picture is great
gallshau
8 May 162#18
Had it a month now and it's the TV that keeps on giving.... So many features!
marcjones73
8 May 16#15
As far as I can tell, Sony don't even make this TV in 43", so not sure how the picture can be bad? They do do a 43" in the x83 series (kd43x8305), but that is a different model. Even then, the picture is excellent, and is rated at 900hz rather than the 200hz of this 49 incher.
There are lots of reported issues with the android software of Sony TV's, but picture quality is as good, and probably better than any of their rivals.
fishmaster to marcjones73
8 May 161#17
Initially and well for quite some time the Android problems ruined these TVs, they now have a reputation and even if people don't know of the reputation for problems, they probably haven't sold as well as they should and are heavily discounted now, that's my theory anyway :smiley:
The most crucial function of a TV is to function as a TV, this was broken for quite some time on Sony Android based models, video and audio out of sync, black screens and other issues. Shot them self in the foot using Android really. If you want a stable system you never use Android and I speak as an Android user.
If you have a Nationwide credit card, you can get an extra 1% back
andrewb366 to lkl265
8 May 162#12
Thanks, have now included within the post! :man:
LOUGHBORO GUY
8 May 163#10
My god that is a bargain will look at reviews
andrewb366 to LOUGHBORO GUY
8 May 16#11
It really is a great deal. I paid full price for this television two weeks ago from Tesco Direct at £499 after hearing nothing but good things and I must say it really has lived up to the hype.
christopherrosenfeld
8 May 162#8
GET40 code works to get it to £459.
andrewb366 to christopherrosenfeld
8 May 161#9
Thanks, now updated post! Now that really is a bargain :wink:
andrewb366
8 May 161#6
I wouldn't know much about the 43inch models, However I purchased the 49inch 8005CB two weeks ago from Tesco Direct and cannot fault it at all. The picture quality is crisp, terrific user interface and the colours are second to none. Blurriness, grain and flickering is certainly not an issue, Just played Mad Max on BR via PS4 and it looks great to me!
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DeezNutz241
8 May 163#3
purchased this tv last month best tv iv owned picture and sound quality is Exellent
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4K Ultra-HD Processor X1
Behind the ultra high definition picture is a powerful processor so you watch everything with stunning colour, clarity and contrast. Whatever you are watching, from TV broadcasts, Blu-rays, DVDs or even 4K Internet videos, the picture is boosted to 4K Ultra HD clarity with greater contrast and more lifelike colours.
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In other words, you can unpack it (and consider its mediocre aesthetics), but the moment you've plugged it in to set up and yes...evaluate its image quality, you're stuffed.
They will do anything imaginable to stop you from returning the tv if you, for whatever reason and fully within your rights, decide to change your mind. They wanted to retain 45% of the tv's price in my case, so I've had to put mine on eBay as a result. Needless to say, I won't be buying from them ever again.
Please consider alternative purchasing sources carefully if you'd rather avoid a mighty headache no to mention financial loss.
Disable Sony shelf and Sony select apps and turn off notifications for the apps
Install advanced task killer pro
Install SD maid pro
Install sideload launcher by chain fire
Turn off wireless if not using it
Turn off Bluetooth
Turn on developer mode and change animations to 0.5
Helps a lot
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There's also I think what they call DSE - dirty screen effect, where it's noticeable in light solid colours and especially when the shot is panning. Check ITV when the scroll now, next, then at the bottom half of the screen. You might even notice it when wtahcing football for example.
My TV has blacks that are too black if anything.
It needs a fair bit of tweaking to find a good setting that shows the detail in dark areas.
Something just isn't right with my set, but due to AO's awkard returns policy, I'm nervous getting touch with them. Won't be using or recommending them to anyone for this point alone.
Comparing to my Sony 37" from a few years ago, the blacks on which I didn't find great (my LG 42LN543V was better), this 49x8005 is even worse. Currently watching the Queen's 90th on ITV. Scenes with dark backgrounds are grey. This is under normal lighting conditions. I don't expect it to be black, but should be darker tan what it is. So much for their advance contrast - I'd have probably been happier with the recent Argos / Philips offering!
Get Rid of the "Featured Apps" Section
1. Go to Settings -> Apps
2. Look for an app called "Sony Shelf"
3. Force Close it
4. Set Notifications to "Off"
Get Rid of the "Sony Select" App and its Recommendations
1. Go to Settings -> Apps
2. Look for an app called "Sony Select"
3. Force Close it
4. Set Notifications to "Off"
Don't see any reason why they won't at some point.
Finding a balance between crushed blacks and detail in dark scenes is a bit tricky.
Ended up disabling most of the black/contrast options, the most annoying setting was the dynamic contrast which is constantly being adjusted and is very distracting when switching from light and dark scenes.
Still well worth the money.
I think 2K refers to 1080p content.
I can't seem to get round the android / YouView issues. Again, what is the root cause, poor programming or the processor not handling the updates / android software? Not sure it's worth it, "you get what you pay for" comes to mind.
http://uk.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x810c/settings
I just increased the brightness up to 10 and colour to 62.
Would you mind sharing your settings please?
The black level on my set is very good. In fact probably too good, I can't see much but black in dark scenes.
The major issue for me is the reflection, watching stuff like GoT is a very challenging/near impossible in strong daylight.
For the price I'm enjoying this TV very much. Having Plex and YouTube is a Godsent. Colour, SD upscaling excellent and YouTube quality are outstanding.
Oh the colours
Here's the relevant text from MSE:
If the retailer isn't playing ball it may be easier to go to your card provider
If you’re struggling to get a retailer to listen to the fact you have consumer rights, then in some circumstances, assuming you’re eligible, claiming from the credit card company under Section 75 can prove easier. There are a number of reasons for this:
Credit card companies have deeper pockets.
If you’re claiming something substantial from a small firm, it may fight tooth and nail and force you to go to court to get redress, as it can’t afford to pay out so will make it difficult for you to get your money back. Yet credit card companies are huge beasts, and have deeper pockets so this is less of an issue.
If the credit card firm turns you down, you can go to the Ombudsman, not court.
This is an important difference. First the Financial Ombudsman Service is free, while even in the small claims court you pay a fee, which is only returned if you win.
More importantly, the court only looks at the law, while the Ombudsman looks at:
The law, or
Standard industry practice, or
Whether you've been treated fairly and reasonably
The last one especially gives you extra hope if your case falls foul of the letter of the law, but your treatment hasn’t been right.
ps
I hate credit cards but the Post Office is 27 months interest free plus 3 months accident,theft, loss etc purchase insurance FREE.- amazing
this model is out of stock at mo on JL, so just keep an eye open if it returns, like myself it's a no brainer with JL, hope this helps
soz you must be able to purchase the item online as well as the shop to get price match
I have this same issue with my sony on start up i get round it by using the hdmi select button on the side of tv,it is locked out and laggy with the remote for the first 40 seconds or so but works fine using the side buttons on tv
Not 4k or anything. Not perfect, as there are dimming issues when dynamic contrast is enabled, but definitely better than this POS in my opinion even when off. Now that's a statement. The viewing experience is like night and day.
It really does make this look like a budget screen. And to think people who bought the recent Philips 43", 49" 4K TVs from Argos complaining about the greyness of the blacks .....
£1,000 item
£100 on credit card (deposit)
£900 paid on a debit card
cheers
Also is it just faulty goods or will they help with "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" formally distance selling regs on a RETURN problems i.e. done duedil but not happy with quality of product (but not faulty).
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs-entertainment/tvs/53462/sony-bravia-kdl-50w829b-review-55in-now-630-on-amazon-today
Extract ....
"The user interface takes something of a toll on startup times, with the TV being all but unresponsive for the first 30 seconds after switching on from standby. This is fine if you remembered to set the channel or input when you last turned it off, but it's frustrating when you want to watch a Blu-ray or play a game, but can't switch inputs from another endless repeat of Top Gear on Dave for half a minute"
...it's made me quite reticent to buy a Sony again....hence asking the question - so, again...for those who have this TV, are you able to switch between sources immediately after power on?
This would DEFINITLY envolve a quibble & having to quote the "The Consumer Contracts Regulations" formally distance selling regs" on wanting to RETURN.
If you want a hassle a free life AVOID. go to JLP, Costco or amazon.co.uk (fullfilled by amazon).
https://youtu.be/LWyLmhsUQzc
Im tempted to order something. throw the packaging & return it unused in blank packaging & see what they have to say.
"Compared with its picture, this TV's sound falls rather flat. Everything's a bit hollow due to the lack of low base, and speech sounds tinny and nasal. You're probably going to want to attach a sound bar or home-cinema system to improve the audio and you can do so via HDMI ARC or the digital audio outputs (with support for 5.1 Dolby Digital)."
Not bought this TV (yet) so can't help re optimal settings
We got there in the end
I am on the LG and the blacks when they show the audience is what I expect. I would imagine on the Sony which I've packed away for now, those dark areas will be tinged with a hint of grey? Also notice that when they show clips with black borderes, I would expect those borders to be nearly as dark as the black bezel.
If I recall, this is something which upset me when I installed the Sony.
Thanks
UK TV is broadcast at 50Hz so the TV is quadroupling the same frame 4 times to get this magical 200Hz rate. Often this image processing makes things look worse than better. fast action sports may benefit but don't get sucked into the numbers game. More Hz isn't a measurable reference when all the sources are typically at 50 or 60Hz. Some TV's may make a decent job (like this one) but 200Hz is plenty..... and the 600Hz you see from Panasonic are a bit of a technical swiz of sorts as only elements of the image are processed at 600Hz.
Hot deal as far as I can see.
Pick up an old CRT from freecycle for an extra £25 off trade-in if I'm not mistaken too.
I think I'll pass on this deal :confused:
Rooted
Installed TWRP/Clockwork
Installed xposed
Used Greenify/Amplify to hibernate/disable system apps
This is just a TV with an androlid OS built in as you quite correctly stated
So lets forget the TV part for a minute, i have an LG G4 running CM13
I get five and a half hours on screen time and a 3 day average battery life
Any product i own that has Android on it i tweak (to get the best out of Android)
That theory applies here, to get the best out of the OS it needs a little tweaking
Hell on XDA there is a guy who can fastboot/adb into his Sony Android TV - root wont be far off hopefully (then this set will really shine)
And as regards disabling wifi you IMO you need your head testing if you are using wifi (to stream kodi etc)
"Section 75 covers card refund for faulty goods
Section 75 is fantastic protection. It means if you order something and if the retailer goes kaput, you can still claim your money back from the credit card provider (even if you've since closed your credit card account).
Section 75 applies to most, but not all, credit card agreements. Credit cards are the main area covered, but the law also applies to store cards, store instalment credit and some car finance agreements (though not hire purchase).
Plus, even if the problem is just non-delivery or faulty goods, you have exactly the same rights from the credit provider as from the retailer, flight company or supplier"
Motion could be slightly better for football (but absolutely fine on most counts) and great for the price.
Recommended TV!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMiWDAKqYW8
If you are that worried though then just don't buy it.....it's very simple. get a bog standard TV and buy an android box. same issue there though with updates so no way round it if you want a smart devicr
this is an excellent TV and the android is fantastic, not the fastest system in the world but it's not exactly a high end phone or tablet.
it does the job perfectly well
We're happy for you to unpack the item and inspect it properly, however, if you've used or installed it, we will only make a partial refund to cover the loss in value of the product. Please note, this could be up to 50% of the price of the item
Disable Sony shelf and Sony select apps and turn off notifications for the apps
Install advanced task killer pro
Install SD maid pro
Install sideload launcher by chain fire
Turn off wireless if not using it
Turn off Bluetooth
Turn on developer mode and change animations to 0.5
Helps a lot
I'd expect a smart TV to not get software support after a period of time for the apps, but it does concern me when the basic TV features can be affected too and a load of tweaks need applying to get over the shortcomings. I mean turning off wifi and bluetooth? that's a feature you may want so seems nuts it needs disabling to get the thing to work. Also Sony almost certainly won't provide updates after a couple of years so do most of the nice smart features fizzle out? this seems to happen to almost all smart TV's and blu ray players.
I'm experiencing the kind of rubbish contrast as shown to the left (probably not as bad, but you get my point), but expected something closer to that shown on the right
Precisely the type of complaints with this TV I was talking about.
Choose a different TV and never buy from AO.com
However, I just cannot say the same with mine, maybe I have a faulty unit - I don't know. But as far as I'm concerned, the way the unit deals with blacks in normal daylight just isn't good enough compared to my 42 LG (which is also an IPS panel). So if you were to watch a film with top and bottom borders now, the LG is perfect black, but with this Sony, there's a greyish tint to it no matter what settings you apply. I also find it strange that ifyou move off centre to say 45 degrees to the right, the whites on the screen becomes dullish grey (and other colours for that matter) - like if you applied a grey tint; not normal for an IPS panel I think?
I wonder if there's a panel lottery with these? When was your unit produced?
See, to me, I thought I bought a premium brand, but I feel it is some budget 4k no brand TV I'm using!
I'm at a loss with AO, as I have previously mentioned, that if I were to report this and the powering on issues as faults, they may they find 'nothing wrong' and charge me God knows what .....
In other words, you can unpack it (and consider its mediocre aesthetics), but the moment you've plugged it in to set up and yes...evaluate its image quality, you're stuffed.
They will do anything imaginable to stop you from returning the tv if you, for whatever reason and fully within your rights, decide to change your mind. They wanted to retain 45% of the tv's price in my case, so I've had to put mine on eBay as a result. Needless to say, I won't be buying from them ever again.
Please consider alternative purchasing sources carefully if you'd rather avoid a mighty headache no to mention financial loss.
With regards to AO.com I have never purchased anything from the site although as far as I know they implement a 14 days free of charge returns policy if you are not 100% with the product. The site is reliable and offer a great deal on a range of electrical goods which is why they were rated the top online retailer of July 2015 by Which.
More than happy - picture is great
There are lots of reported issues with the android software of Sony TV's, but picture quality is as good, and probably better than any of their rivals.
The most crucial function of a TV is to function as a TV, this was broken for quite some time on Sony Android based models, video and audio out of sync, black screens and other issues. Shot them self in the foot using Android really. If you want a stable system you never use Android and I speak as an Android user.
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