Better range of lenses with the Oly.

This or Sony A6000?

A6000 is £650 with same lenses.

A6000 probably better technically but EM10 cheaper, more stylish and lighter.

bargain - I paid over £100 at Xmastime - daughter absolutely loves this camera.

Better range of lenses with the Oly.

should be posted @ 549 as cashback not guaranteed

this or a6000 depends what you want to photograph
this doesn't have anywhere near as good AF abilities for moving targets whereas the a6000 is one of the leaders

If you're thinking of buying this and have big hands then add another £50 for the grip.

Leaders of weak cameras. When you using cameras fir sports or wildlife you should go for dslr. Otherwise I would go for Oly + their cheap lenses.

good for you - your point? i must have missed it

I've got the E-M10 v1 and this version should be much better, it has a bigger viewfinder, full 5 axis stabiliser (the 3 axis is amazing as it is) and high bitrate video. If you want a mirrorless this is a no brainer.

The A6000 is great, but the kit lens is rubbish and additional lenses are either huge and expensive, or cheap and not very good.

This is the standard 14-42, not the pancake lens version. Main difference is the pancake lens is smaller, lower profile and has a motorized zoom. The zoom can be controlled by the smartphone app.

Great deal though. I bought the OM-D E-M10 Mark II last week with the 14-42 pancake lens. Missed out on the OLYDISCOUNT code, I've redeemed my cashback. The cashback is via Olympus, so shouldn't be a problem.

the slim sony kit lens is 50quid over body only and its rubbishness is greatly exaggerated usually by people that have never used it
it serves a purpose and does it well imo

I am Sony guy and love their DSLRs / SLTs. I bought recently their csc a5000 and returned it after few days - the low light performance with kit lens was disappointing. I liked the spec and features but lens upgrade would cost more than I was to spend (£200 for 50mm f1.8 and £170 for 16mm f2.8 ). On the other hand I am still yet to see a good kit lens on entry level camera...will just wait for good prices on a68

Be Wary the lens is different to what most other camera retails give, this lens isn't the mortised one that Olympus officially do in their kits.

The 14-42 on this has fared fairly well in reviews compared to most kit lenses. Although that's the EZ version, not the one in this kit.

A6000 hands down spec wise.
Because it has a bigger and better APS Sensor to the Micro Four-Thirds in the E-M10.

This is a great deal.
In answer to the question about this or the Sony, they're both nifty cameras. The Sony has better specs for the electronics, the olympus has better lenses (the kit lenses too, the telephoto being amazing value).
With the oly, if you grab the 45mm for around 150quid too you'll be blown away.
The Sony doesn't have the range of extra lenses, but has some nice ones if you're prepared to spend more on lenses than you spent on the camera.

Then again, if you're spending that you could get the olympus Pro zooms which are outstanding.

The difference between aps and mft sensor size is negligible in real world use (my other camera is MF...).

Best advice on buying any camera would be to go and see how it feels in your hands. The haptics matter a lot more than the specs.

I have an Olympus E-M1 which is similar and would recommend getting into MFT cameras and lenses. This is a cracking deal and there's a lot of scope for your photography with the excellent lenses available for this system. I have the Olympus 25mm, 45mm and 12-40mm.

Depends on how it feels in your hands, how accurate the auto focus is and the choice / price of lens are all important, believe this has a good evf which also makes a difference.

​As these have a 2x crop factor compared to old fashioned DSLRs these are arguably better for wildlife as you don't need humongous lenses to achieve the same shot, e.g. a 300mm Oly lens gives the same results as a 600mm on a 35mm so called 'full frame' old fashioned DSLR. Also with the stabilisation built in to the Olympus bodies you can use loads of old manual lenses without having to spend ££££s on huge stabilised lenses for other over popular brands.

​My daughter has the original E-M5 Mark 1 and it easily keeps up with big pro Canons, she has had work printed stuff up to bus stop poster size for commercial advertising.

I've tried one of these in the shops and I'd really need the optional grip. Otherwise the ergonomics are great for me (whereas most of the Oly Pen range are too small for my fingers).

The OM-D doesn't seem to have so much to recommend it if you take away the weather proofing. I bought the mk 1 em5. Without the waterproofing, you get a heavier larger camera buying them than buying the other Pen ranges which have the same sensors in them at the end of the day.

The Pen PL7 is only 39g lighter so not a big difference, it is smaller (height mainly) but lacks a lot of features that the OMD-10 Mk 2 has: -
No Viewfinder (2.36M dot OLED EVF on the OMD10).
No built in flash
Only 3 axis image stabilisation as opposed to 5 axis
Slower focusing - (The OMD10 MK2 is fast).
More expensive - With the two lenses the Pen PL7 is considerably more expensive.

It's the lens that affect the cost the most (bodies are relatively cheap) - with the same two lenses this will cost more. And you can get the E-PM2 for a lot less which also has the same sensor and is smaller still. As for focus speed, none of the PEN series are slouches. The EVF can be an issue (you get a flash with all Pen series, but you have to choose between EVF and flash on those without one built in).

Anyway, my main point was that I don't really see a non-weather proofed camera really having a place in the OM-D series.

I have ordered one I used to have an old olympus e400 years ago. I'm not sure about the lense though I would of liked the pancake lense does anybody know if it makes a big difference?

PM2 still works out more than this - £350 for the PM2 + £150 for the 40-150mm lens - £500.

The PM2 is smaller I agree and it does use the same sensor but that's about it..

E-M10 adds: -

5 axis image stabailsation
2.36 M dot OLED EVF
1/16000 sec electronic shutter (completly silent)
Tilting LCD screen
Manual controls
Low light focusing down to -2EV

For weather proofing there is the E-M5 Mk2, this give you much of the same but for less outlay.

Assuming it this lens that it comes with, then its pretty good..
http://uk.pcmag.com/olympus-mzuiko-14-42mm-f35-56-2-r/4197/review/olympus-mzuiko-14-42mm-f35-56-ii-r
Much better than the pancake lens acording the this review..
http://uk.pcmag.com/olympus-mzuiko-ed-14-42mm-f35-56-ez/4194/review/olympus-mzuiko-ed-14-42mm-f35-56-ez

Surprised if there's no better offers out there for the e-pm2, should be able to get the twin lens kit for c.£300, but not looked for a while

I bought this yesterday, because of this post. Thanks OP, Heat added

Also available in black...
http://www.jessops.com/online.store/categories/products/olympus/om-d-e-m10-mark-ii-compact-system-camera-in-black-14-42mm-40-150mm-lenses-98022/show.html

I bough one as well yesterday, the small lense is M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-24mm 1:3.5-5.6 EZ II R.
Saw some videos online and they have bought the same camera with small lesnse M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-24mm 1:3.5-5.6 EZ. Not sure what is the difference between EZ II R and EZ or which one is better.
Which one did you receive.

Discount code still valid and cashback till midnight.

As mentioned before, the EZ is the more compact "pancake lens" with motorized zoom. It commands a £50 premium over the other kit lens package.

I got the same Lens as you.

Do you mean this one?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-M-ZUIKO-DIGITAL-ED-14-42mm/dp/B00I0TUQX4

No Sorry. The Olympus M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 14-42mm 1:3.5-5.6 EZ II r:

Your text here

Thanks for that.
This sounds like a better lens than the pancake model.

Thanks OP. Great deal. just purchased one (on the last day of Cash back validity)

I ordered mine back on Sunday and has not arrived yet, I contacted them and I have been told the item is not in stock, So they have arranged to send one from one of there stores. Should be here by Monday not exactly free next day shipping. As long as it arrives in time to get the cash back.

Do you have a link for cashback the only one I have found says its finished end of may

You can lick the button that says last chance to claim.

How are people find this camera then ? Takes abit of getting used to much smaller than Im used to but can carry it all day just got the 45mm 1.8 lens for it also impressed so far.

​Love mine. Just been at my friends wedding. Great pictures. I have bought the body cap lense 15mm very clear pictures.

Ive bought the Olympus 45mm 1.8 fanastic portrait lense would like a nice wide angle next for landscape