As a Coeliac I felt obligated to try these.

I tried them. Once. :stuck_out_tongue:

good find op, heat added

Great price but we had them just the once, cardboard.

When I clicked on get deal, all that came up was pet food! The search didn't recognise the name either.

I bought these on offer on sainsburys. never again. vile

Wheatabix?

Thanks for the head up always looking for gluten free stuff to try. Especially when it is cheaper xxx

Thankyou I love this stuff, thought £2 was good in tesco....will look out for this!

Does anyone know the sell by dates on these? Wondering whether to stock up for my wife who has coeliac and likes these.

if you can't eat proper weetabix these are great! I'm having some right now.

i love these they did take a bit of getting used to but doesnt all GF food...n i find them better than most ceral we get to eat.... the other gf food they have had in there had next years date on so i wouldnt think they are any different.i didnt see them when i called in the other day but ill go n see if they have them today i can get 4 or 5 boxes to what i pay for 1 box so thanks for the heads up

Gluten causes health problems in sufferers of gluten-related disorders, which include coeliac disease (CD), non-coeliac gluten sensitivity (NCGS), gluten ataxia, dermatitis herpetiformis (DH) and wheat allergy.[4] In these patients, the gluten-free diet is a demonstrated effective treatment.[5][6][7] In addition, at least in some cases, the gluten-free diet may improve gastrointestinal and/or systemic symptoms in other diseases, such as irritable bowel syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis or HIV enteropathy, among others.

Source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten-free_diet

Gluten is only bad for some of the population. Gluten Free Diets including Paleo diets are a complete fad.

If you're interested in Gluten Free Diets anyway here's some information (you'll notice many of the claims aren't backed up by science and they usually want to sell you something to help you be Gluten Free >

freetheanimal.com

https://www.bulletproofexec.com/

Also Dr Art Ayers, who has some excellent credentials >

http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/anti-inflammatory-diet.html

I'm currently interested in Dr Art Ayers, freetheanimal.com and http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.co.uk/ as they concern themselves with an important aspect of health which is the microbiome or the trillions of bacteria which are now known to influence health. The microbiome is amazing, and just like the human body there's more we don't know than we know about it.

We don't fully understand how alcohol affects the brain >

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/you-illuminated/201006/your-brain-alcohol

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2015/10/enzyme-malfunction-may-be-why-binge-drinking-can-lead-to-alcohol.html

That's just one aspect, there's alcohol's effects on Dopamine and other brain receptor sites.

Gone off on a major tangent there haven't I? What I'm getting at is unless you know you suffer from a medical condition whereby consumption of Gluten is bad for you then don't actively avoid it, of course you could trial a Gluten free diet, however you'd have to allow for the placebo effect. So anyone on a blog can tell you that Gluten is bad for everyone, the science currently simple does not back up that claim, and therefore removing Gluten from your diet for the sake of it, is part of the pseudo science of Paleo diets and other Gluten free diets.

TL;DR

Don't avoid Gluten unless you have a medical condition which precludes you from eating Gluten containing food.

The microbiome is amazing and I'm sure will be in the forefront of medical research in the near future. Meanwhile the public are being manipulted by marketing to try any new diet that suggests they may improve their life. I even found myself almost tempted to try coconut oil (why??). However, certain illnesses such as coeliac, are debilitating and this offer may be a good option for those sufferers who may also be able to adapt these bics to use in other recipes and so enhance their diets.

Thanks, I would have thought they would last longer than that being dried, but good to know. I'll pop up there later and grab a few packs if they have some in my local.

On the bright side, now that many people are taking up these diets, the variety and availability of Gluten Free food in supermarkets and restaurants has increased dramatically.

I say let them continue. :smile:

I'm a coeliac, so GF isn't an option for me, however, dismissing everyone else who feels better avoiding or removing gluten from their diets is just wrong in my opinion. Medicine is evolving all the time and their current knowledge isn't as absolute as we sometimes believe. Placebo effect or not, a gluten free diet improves the quality of life for some who feel the need, and it means people like me get more choice and options as the market share is bigger.

While I've seen things like this myself - Long page of text with an overpriced eBook at the end. I'm curious what people believe they could buy to help them be gluten free.

I don't know, to me paleo, SCD etc make a lot of sense. If you choose to eat that way, fair enough. You might see some benefit and I find it highly unlikely it's going to do you any harm - If anything it's just encouraging you to make all your meals from scratch and cut out foods you don't really -need-. Likewise, if non coeliacs choose to avoid gluten as well so be it. Like others have said, it brings more products on to the market (Go back a few years and the choice available was dire.), and with any luck it'll slowly bring the prices down (Yeah right.).

I have to disagree with you. Gluten Free is not a fad as I have found out for me over the last 16 months after eating it for 40 years.

I don't know your circumstances, so I can't comment specifically on what you've said and with respect to you I make no reference to your comment any further in this reply.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/feb/25/gluten-free-diet-life-saving-fad

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33486177

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/03/diet_fads_are_destroying_us_paleo_gluten_free_and_the_lies_we_tell_ourselves_partner/

People also react to phenols and salicylates in food, it's difficult to be salicylate free.

http://www.foodsmatter.com/allergy_intolerance/salicylate/articles/salintol.html

If you have no known medical condition that precludes you from eating Gluten but you have a health problem which you believe is related to food, then research not only Gluten but salicylates.

https://www.allergyuk.org/drug-allergy/aspirin-intolerance-and-salicylates

http://www.aaaai.org/ask-the-expert/salicylate-free-diet

That's another controversial diet which precludes people from eating even more food. Belief is powerful, extremely powerful it's the mother of Placebo and Nocebo, the mechanism not well understood.

So, given the large amount of research into placebos and their effectiveness, if someone believes that going GF will help them it's likely that it will for a good percentage. So. Where's the problem with this? It's not like going GF is dangerous as long as it's done as part of a healthy diet, and generally speaking, going GF means less junk food and a greater degree of cooking from scratch.

Lol typical HUKD arguments :man:

Well the easy answer is they haven't found the real answer to their health problem unless it was psychological, going gluten free = less junk food isn't true, many gluten free products are essentially junk food too, people will seek to replace gluten based carbs with gluten free based carbs, many of which are no healthier in reality, apart from avoiding gluten.

http://foodbabe.com/2015/09/22/trying-avoid-gluten-dont-make-common-mistakes/

http://www.headlines-news.com/2015/08/18/175349/its-insane-for-the-nhs-to-dole-out-junk-food-because-it-is-gluten-free-says-dr-max-pemberton

Yes, but those last two links? Foodbabe.com not exactly the Lancet and the other one is simply factually incorrect. Some coeliacs can get staple items such as bread, flour, oats on prescription, which they pay for unless they have other medical conditions, some CCGs won't even fund this. Neither link strengthen your argument.

I have no experience of obtaining Gluten free products via the medical establishment, I've just listed what's in the public domain. However I do have experience of following interesting information backed up by scientific study.

I consider Dr Art Ayers one of the stronger sources of information, freetheanimal has a certain agenda, bulletproofexec is all about selling and misusing science in order to sell products, Dr B G Grace takes a scientific stance and interchanges information with freetheanimal, and they often disagree.

In simple terms Dr Art Ayers has useful information in terms of diet, the rest seek to improve health via the microbiome, which is a very interesting topic but caution must be taken as it's largely experimental as we simply don't have enough information, but it looks to be the next big target in health.

I want to inform people that nowhere near everyone needs to be Gluten free based on the current evidence, and that Gluten free alternative foods are often just junk food. I believe if you have a health complaint as many of us do and will do that a large component of western health complaints can be sourced at dietary level, not withstanding genetic components of disease.

You can be gluten free and be healthy, also people with coeliac disease and other bowel disorders would do well to look in to the microbiome and strengthen its diversity and overall health. The microbiome is a genetically diverse and species diverse collection of symbiotic organisms that communicate bi-directionally with the human, the simple description of this is gut bacteria, we are finding out more and more just how important these gut bacteria are. They create compounds which are essential to our well being which affect a vast amount of bodily processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Microbiome_Project

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbiota

Anyway I wish you all well, there's so much to learn!