I am on the look out for a family car having just welcomed my first child into the world.
I have been tempted by a few but I am probably gonna pull the trigger on this. I think the Xtrail is a great looking car.
The price I quoted is for the visia model, which is down the lower end of the spec. You can click and get the higher spec variants with similar levels of discount. I will be going for the Tekna, which has leather and a panoramic sunroof.
I think for the money this is great value and the reviews have been positive. I personally know 2 people with one of these and they are very pleased with them. That may change when I show them this deal - as they pay significantly more for their xtrail than this.
I know leases are hit and miss with folk so I am not gonna broach that but it suits my situation. It mentions a admin fee but I couldn't find the ammount, so I have rounded the cost up to the next £100, it may well be a little more than that.
It's for 5000 miles, but you Can add further miles up front or just do as I have done and pay the excess mileage charge at the end of the lease.
B/c they cannot sell them at full price and need to shift them. Nissan make huge amounts of cars, not to order but to sales expectations.
This car is being refreshed for 2017 with new front end, tweaked engines, etc. As a result they know that certain amount will not sale so they can put them out to lease companies, thus not having to lower the sales prices to general public, which in turns maintains a higher price (and profit margin) in the retail sector. Nobody wants a reputation for selling cheap cars, that means you would loose your price integrity and find it hard to charge for the next car!
I run a huge fleet in the UK and am responsible for many others in the EU. The deals we have direct with BMW bring the cost of a 3 series down to levels that would make private buyers sick!
Based on BVRLA guidance, it includes photo examples of what's acceptable and whats not!
Search Fair Wear and Tear and you will find numerous guides - Audi and BMW also have them - they seem aligned with BVRLA guidance
CompositeGuru74
8y 44d3#19
I love it when people have their first child and need a massive vehicle for it.
I have a Tekna Qashqai on lease direct through Nissan employee scheme and they have just put the X Trail on the scheme. £360 a month gets you a fully insured Tekna so this deal actually works out better I reckon.
All comments (49)
sew1091
8y 44d2#1
I have just returned a Quasquai SP that I have had on loan for 2 weeks whilst my car was repaired what a great car not sure i can resist this
Cristiano to sew1091
8y 44d#2
Don't blame you it's a great price
Jerbs
8y 44d#3
Brilliant price. I can't understand how profit can be made on a £20k+ car that is leased for only £4700 over 2 years.
groenleader to Jerbs
8y 44d9#8
B/c they cannot sell them at full price and need to shift them. Nissan make huge amounts of cars, not to order but to sales expectations.
This car is being refreshed for 2017 with new front end, tweaked engines, etc. As a result they know that certain amount will not sale so they can put them out to lease companies, thus not having to lower the sales prices to general public, which in turns maintains a higher price (and profit margin) in the retail sector. Nobody wants a reputation for selling cheap cars, that means you would loose your price integrity and find it hard to charge for the next car!
I run a huge fleet in the UK and am responsible for many others in the EU. The deals we have direct with BMW bring the cost of a 3 series down to levels that would make private buyers sick!
rash to Jerbs
8y 44d1#37
Easy, just inflate the rrp, to make the lease deals look good. This is not 3x better than a Dacia so why do they think they can charge 3x more?
quidstretchy
8y 44d1#4
I rented one of these for a month from Hertz earlier this year. It far exceeded my expectations. Really good fuel economy too
sew1091
8y 44d#5
OK done
Cristiano to sew1091
8y 44d#7
Wow that's quick. Glad I've helped someone.
I agree about how do they make money on such cheap deals. These must lose 40-50% of value in the 2-3 years. But I'm not gonna lose too much sleep.
Samphire67
8y 44d1#6
Love this car, rented it for a week in Scotland and did not want to part with it. Came home and bought the Qashqai as the XTrail to big for my day to day journeys.
BigAde
8y 44d#9
I've had X-Trails for the past 9-10 years, albeit the older T30 shape.
Great cars, well built and hold their value pretty well.
At under £200/month, this is a pretty good deal, although I'd probably need to add more mileage.
Still think the Outlander PHEV might make more sense for me though.
Cristiano to BigAde
8y 44d#12
My other car is a Nissan Leaf and love driving an electric car. Any decent deals on the phev?
Cristiano
8y 44d1#10
So it's a way of shifting large volumes when the need arises without Joe public being annoyed that cara are being had for a fraction of showroom cost?
Common Sense
8y 44d1#11
Reveal the deal and enlighten us. I am not aware of many BMW drivers who pay full price anyway. There are always deals via brokers. Even for used cars many BMW dealers will knock off almost 15% of the list price.
BigAde
8y 44d1#13
Not that I've seen. Work out at £300/month last time I looked.
taker920
8y 44d#14
Poverty spec kills it for me
Cristiano to taker920
8y 44d#15
Go into it you can go for Tekna top of the range for a bit more
M_z to taker920
8y 44d#18
There doesn't seem to be anything seriously lacking in the spec to me? Mind you, I remember as a child my dad's first car that came equipped with a radio as standard. So its all relative.
sofiasar
8y 44d#16
that's cheap
crgritchie
8y 44d#17
pretty good - heat added
CompositeGuru74
8y 44d3#19
I love it when people have their first child and need a massive vehicle for it.
I have a Tekna Qashqai on lease direct through Nissan employee scheme and they have just put the X Trail on the scheme. £360 a month gets you a fully insured Tekna so this deal actually works out better I reckon.
W_jelly1
8y 44d1#20
Have a couple of looks at the panoramic roof (if it's a cost extra) - we had it on a hire Qashqai last "summer" in Ireland and used it once or twice but kids in back didn't like it open and when very sunny (the once) was a pain - but with a baby toddler might be a plus.
Common Sense
8y 44d1#21
In two years I bet the car will have minor scrapes and perhaps dents. Do you have any idea how the companies handle this and what the basis of charges are. Do they pile on costs?
After 2 years do they offer the option to sell the car to you? Do they charge at market price or discounted price they purchased the car for? Any ideas?
ame2418
8y 44d#22
Never leased before, is it generally better to lease a car over 2 years rather than 3, as it works out a similar monthly payment but with the upfront cost and processing fee you would only be paying it once every 3 years, rather than every 2 years?
Cristiano to ame2418
8y 44d#24
I think it depends on the specific deal, but more often than by the good
Lease deals I have seen have been over 2 years. I like the idea of a new car every 2 years personally. But your point makes sense about only 1 upfront payment.
Cristiano
8y 44d#23
There is a fair useage agreement type thing that has what you might call wear and tear. Stone chips and such like are fine, but more serious damage you would be likely to have to pay for.
You can't legally buy the car after a lease and generally it doesn't work out cost effective to do so. There may well be exceptions to this but as a whole you just hand it back and hopefully pick another great car up.
I have heard of people extending leases, but generally the costs do go up, something about depreciation being spread over a shorter period so the cost has to go up.
I'm no expert by any stretch, this is my impression from what I have read on the subject. Hope it helps
pistol6000
8y 44d#25
petrol tekna works out at nearly £7200 unless im missing something?
good deal, solid chilli red only for this price though , im tempted but would want a little more spec and 7 seats ideally:(
probably the best deal ive seen for an x-trail
£50 a month tax and 30mpg on my Pathfinder is is pushing me towards one of these lease deals but i love my Pathy
groenleader
8y 44d#26
Yes more or less.
Manufactures have to maintain their price integrity through their dealers.
princessnataliefariss
8y 44d#27
Hi never had a car on finance, do you have to pay any money up front?..
Kind regards
20nuggets to princessnataliefariss
8y 44d#31
You normally have to put some money upfront to reduce the monthly costs. These guys look like they need equivalent of 3 months upfront as a minimum but the less you put upfront, the higher your monthly and overall cost becomes. I haven't worked it out but there is an "interest" component built in as you are effectively borrowing the money for the time you agree to have the car and paying that back over the period you use it.
Dj CUE
8y 44d#28
Does anybody know if the new spec xtrail is going to have an petrol automatic option? We only do short journeys so need a petrol but really lazy so want an automatic!
sam1970
8y 44d#29
Never had a car on finance but this looks good. I always worry about charges for any damage(scratches, alloy curbs..etc) at end of lease...what are people's thoughts on that?
gooners
8y 44d#30
I've leased many a car, with both good and bad stories. Ultimately the car is owned by the finance house who underwrite the loan. They will issue you with a guide (as lease companies are governed too) about fair wear and tear. As someone stated most of it is common sense, minor chips, scuffs you'd get with a 2 year old car they'll overlook. Badly curbed alloys, dents, bigger scratches you'd be charged. It's no different to if you owned a new car for 2 years and looked to sell it, you'd do your best to make it look as new as possible
Could you explain why leasing is better than buying a car? I prefer to buy a car (used one) which will be mine rather than to "rent" for some period of time.
Fogg1969 to Oliba
8y 44d2#36
I'm doing it both ways, I'm leasing a Nissan Leaf, and I own an old 5 Series BMW which kind of comes in handy if I'm going further than 30 miles from home.
The argument for leasing:
- Fixed monthly sums.
- It's a way of havng use of a new car without huge capital expense.
- No intererst, depreciation, or road tax to worry about..
- Remember to get it serviced and all repairs are fixed in warranty.
- You're free to do other stuff with your capital. Putting hard earned cash into a shiny new car is seldom a shrewd move.
The downside is it's a fixed term, and I'm stuck with the thing for another year. Not that I mind.
The upside of the old BMW:
- It's lost most of its money, it's the cheaper car to run.
- If I ding a door on a lamp post it's no big deal.
That's about it. I just have to take my chances with clutches and fixing things as they break. There's an element of chance there. So far I've been lucky with my cars, but I'll get caught out eventually, I'm sure.
All told, if you're happy having a car that's 5+ years old and you're prepared to take your chances with repairs then owning outright is the better bet. If you want a new car, and the reliability and prestige (if that matters to you, each to their own) then leasing is near certain to cost significantly less over the term.
paul555
8y 44d#38
Annoying how all lease special offers are for manual cars. I need automatic/flappy paddle due to bad back
Fogg1969 to paul555
8y 44d#41
If you select 'automatic' at the transmission prompt, you'll get 662,890 deals to choose from here:
You can always ask the leasing company what their approach is and whther they use BVRLA
narang9
8y 44d#40
why lease companies never do automatic cars.
groenleader
8y 44d1#42
Exactly! They do automatics, but what you people might find is some specials are manual only. That's just an industry thing, you get an entry level car and then they add a feature or different wheels and call it a special name, that is often an manual only way to get excitement at low entry point.
Many lease "deals" simply aim to get your attention or get rid of stock.
If someone actually wants say a automatic 1.4t Astra get 3 or 4 quotes and go haggling, as I have posted before all leases are negotiable, cars, in the main are a negotiable commodity.
You would be mad to take a lease quote at face value just like you an MSRP on a new car!
FFarrell
8y 44d#43
Love my Nissan X Trail, I have the new model and love it. Great deal
Cristiano to FFarrell
8y 44d#44
What made you go for the xtrail rather than one of its competitiors ?
J4Y_B
8y 44d#45
I did a test drive in one of these 2 weeks ago - fantastic car.
However...I couldn't consider investing in (or leasing) one of these unless it was a Tekna...it makes a bit difference.
When I spec'd but the car I wanted it came out at £32K.
Again, great car and if you aren't too fussy about the trim then you should definitely get one.
After weeks of looking/test driving...think I'm going to opt for buying a 1/2 year old Toureg (R Line)...just need to find a good deal.
digipeep
8y 44d#46
Wish Nissan had a more powerful diesel, 1.6 a bit lightweight. Still great deal though.
jonesmarka
8y 44d#47
so how much are the extra miles, I need 18k which has always put me off these deals
mishmar
8y 44d#48
You do however need a big boot!
Oliba
8y 44d#49
Appreciate your time! This is really helpful. Thank You so much for reply.
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Opening post
I have been tempted by a few but I am probably gonna pull the trigger on this. I think the Xtrail is a great looking car.
The price I quoted is for the visia model, which is down the lower end of the spec. You can click and get the higher spec variants with similar levels of discount. I will be going for the Tekna, which has leather and a panoramic sunroof.
I think for the money this is great value and the reviews have been positive. I personally know 2 people with one of these and they are very pleased with them. That may change when I show them this deal - as they pay significantly more for their xtrail than this.
I know leases are hit and miss with folk so I am not gonna broach that but it suits my situation. It mentions a admin fee but I couldn't find the ammount, so I have rounded the cost up to the next £100, it may well be a little more than that.
It's for 5000 miles, but you Can add further miles up front or just do as I have done and pay the excess mileage charge at the end of the lease.
Initial Deposit £1295.89 (inc VAT)
Monthly Lease £143.00 (inc VAT)
Arrangement fee - not specified
- aing69
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This car is being refreshed for 2017 with new front end, tweaked engines, etc. As a result they know that certain amount will not sale so they can put them out to lease companies, thus not having to lower the sales prices to general public, which in turns maintains a higher price (and profit margin) in the retail sector. Nobody wants a reputation for selling cheap cars, that means you would loose your price integrity and find it hard to charge for the next car!
I run a huge fleet in the UK and am responsible for many others in the EU. The deals we have direct with BMW bring the cost of a 3 series down to levels that would make private buyers sick!
http://www.leaseplan.se/images/en_GB/FWT%20guides%20cars%202010.pdf
Based on BVRLA guidance, it includes photo examples of what's acceptable and whats not!
Search Fair Wear and Tear and you will find numerous guides - Audi and BMW also have them - they seem aligned with BVRLA guidance
I have a Tekna Qashqai on lease direct through Nissan employee scheme and they have just put the X Trail on the scheme. £360 a month gets you a fully insured Tekna so this deal actually works out better I reckon.
All comments (49)
This car is being refreshed for 2017 with new front end, tweaked engines, etc. As a result they know that certain amount will not sale so they can put them out to lease companies, thus not having to lower the sales prices to general public, which in turns maintains a higher price (and profit margin) in the retail sector. Nobody wants a reputation for selling cheap cars, that means you would loose your price integrity and find it hard to charge for the next car!
I run a huge fleet in the UK and am responsible for many others in the EU. The deals we have direct with BMW bring the cost of a 3 series down to levels that would make private buyers sick!
I agree about how do they make money on such cheap deals. These must lose 40-50% of value in the 2-3 years. But I'm not gonna lose too much sleep.
Great cars, well built and hold their value pretty well.
At under £200/month, this is a pretty good deal, although I'd probably need to add more mileage.
Still think the Outlander PHEV might make more sense for me though.
I have a Tekna Qashqai on lease direct through Nissan employee scheme and they have just put the X Trail on the scheme. £360 a month gets you a fully insured Tekna so this deal actually works out better I reckon.
After 2 years do they offer the option to sell the car to you? Do they charge at market price or discounted price they purchased the car for? Any ideas?
Lease deals I have seen have been over 2 years. I like the idea of a new car every 2 years personally. But your point makes sense about only 1 upfront payment.
You can't legally buy the car after a lease and generally it doesn't work out cost effective to do so. There may well be exceptions to this but as a whole you just hand it back and hopefully pick another great car up.
I have heard of people extending leases, but generally the costs do go up, something about depreciation being spread over a shorter period so the cost has to go up.
I'm no expert by any stretch, this is my impression from what I have read on the subject. Hope it helps
good deal, solid chilli red only for this price though , im tempted but would want a little more spec and 7 seats ideally:(
probably the best deal ive seen for an x-trail
£50 a month tax and 30mpg on my Pathfinder is is pushing me towards one of these lease deals but i love my Pathy
Manufactures have to maintain their price integrity through their dealers.
Kind regards
http://www.leaseplan.se/images/en_GB/FWT%20guides%20cars%202010.pdf
Based on BVRLA guidance, it includes photo examples of what's acceptable and whats not!
Search Fair Wear and Tear and you will find numerous guides - Audi and BMW also have them - they seem aligned with BVRLA guidance
This may help you:
https://issuu.com/bfwsn67/docs/lcv_fwt_standard_2015?e=2001091/12541985
Cheers
The argument for leasing:
- Fixed monthly sums.
- It's a way of havng use of a new car without huge capital expense.
- No intererst, depreciation, or road tax to worry about..
- Remember to get it serviced and all repairs are fixed in warranty.
- You're free to do other stuff with your capital. Putting hard earned cash into a shiny new car is seldom a shrewd move.
The downside is it's a fixed term, and I'm stuck with the thing for another year. Not that I mind.
The upside of the old BMW:
- It's lost most of its money, it's the cheaper car to run.
- If I ding a door on a lamp post it's no big deal.
That's about it. I just have to take my chances with clutches and fixing things as they break. There's an element of chance there. So far I've been lucky with my cars, but I'll get caught out eventually, I'm sure.
All told, if you're happy having a car that's 5+ years old and you're prepared to take your chances with repairs then owning outright is the better bet. If you want a new car, and the reliability and prestige (if that matters to you, each to their own) then leasing is near certain to cost significantly less over the term.
http://www.contracthireandleasing.com
(Sorry, just misread your post, missing the 'special' offers bit. Still, I imagine there's value in there somewhere.)
http://www.bvrla.co.uk/service/fair-wear-and-tear-guides
You can always ask the leasing company what their approach is and whther they use BVRLA
Many lease "deals" simply aim to get your attention or get rid of stock.
If someone actually wants say a automatic 1.4t Astra get 3 or 4 quotes and go haggling, as I have posted before all leases are negotiable, cars, in the main are a negotiable commodity.
You would be mad to take a lease quote at face value just like you an MSRP on a new car!
However...I couldn't consider investing in (or leasing) one of these unless it was a Tekna...it makes a bit difference.
When I spec'd but the car I wanted it came out at £32K.
Again, great car and if you aren't too fussy about the trim then you should definitely get one.
After weeks of looking/test driving...think I'm going to opt for buying a 1/2 year old Toureg (R Line)...just need to find a good deal.