"sport" 0-62 mph: 14.3 secs LOL

Do you join the motorway from a standstill? I used to have a car with almost half this power without issue. Lots of power is rarely required (by drivers that are paying attention to what they're supposed to be doing). :smiley:

oh ok so it says sport and its slow but its a brand new car for £7500 seat hold their value really well heat from me

If you class Darts as a sport, then this is it.

Yeah, I knew I was setting myself up for that comment! Funnily enough I'm not too "nervous" to cycle the 30 mile round trip to work.

That comment says a lot about your character. My car is a tool to get to work, it beats cycling...not a dick extension.

Ok, so in driving a 300bhp car I'm a nervous driver, whereas grown men driving little shopping carts is fine. Thanks for clarifying.

He quite evidently didn't understand the point that my little 1.2 litre 86bhp i10 has no problems at roundabouts at all unlike him driving his Dad's 81bhp Jazz. I guess he needs mega horsepower just to pull out at roundabouts.

Why would you lack any confidence when it would go just fine in first gear at a junction? whatever car I've ever drove I would never feel like this... Though I'm not a nervous driver.

Mnehh. 86bhp. Nice. I am being sarcastic of course.

User ignore "click".

I can imagine a cyclist lacking confidence at a roundabout. This car has a first gear, an accelerator and a clutch. If you can't use those properly, then you're a poor driver,

I drive an i10 with 86bhp and frequently pull alongside much more powerful cars at roundabouts. I'll pull out when the way is clear and be across the roundabout before the person in a very powerful car alongside me has even spotted the opportunity to go, or they lack the confidence and probably have no idea how to accelerate quickly.

Small engined cars are great fun to drive around cities simply because they are much more agile. It's not the power that's ever lacking, it's the driver's lack of skill.

I didn't say that.

I was saying the performance of this car means you will lack confidence pulling out at roundabouts. But I haven't driven it to so cant say with certainty (but how many people on this thread have actually driven this car?). I can only compare to my fathers 81bhp Honda Jazz which I assume would give similar performance.

Seriously, you think that this car would struggle at pulling out on a roundabout? There is more to car design than the engine. The low gearing will ensure enough power to pull out just fine. Then you get to your speed whenever you get there. It's preference but I assure you this car will not struggle at a junction if you can drive.

If you believe you going to achieve the lab figure on the road driving normally you're going to be disappointed by a lot of cars.

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Fairy's Muff and thanks for the clarification ;O)

Audi S4 not A4. Its a 3.0 petrol 354bhp. The Skoda VRS Diesel is the same engine as the fastest Audi 2.0 Diesel, which from memory is about 190bhp. It is a pointless comparison, that was my point! He is a confused Skoda driver making comments based on ignorance. If he is stupid enough to think his Skoda is as fast as an Audi twice the price with almost twice the power, how can I trust any comment made by him that suggests the ride, handling and quality is the same.
I accept that VAG cars share components but that is where most of the comparisons end. They are all designed by different teams to different budgets and for different target markets. I think the brief for Skoda is to make them all just that little but ugly!
Anyway, the main point is, this Seat looks like a good deal. But it isnt an Audi A1 or a Skoda Fabia, and it isn't meant to be.

Well your friend may well be right. Firstly what does "as fast" mean? 0-60 and/or top speed? Are you comparing his diesel against a petrol engine?

There are several engine derivatives for both the Audi S4 diesel and the Octavia vRS diesel.

Are you comparing the most expensive Audi 3.0 TDI 272 Quattro S Line 4dr Tip Tronic @ £38,950 against the most expensive Skoda Octavia 2.0 TDI CR vRS 5dr DSG 4x4 @ £27,950? This Audi is "faster".

Are you comparing the cheapest Audi 2.0 TDI Ultra SE 4dr @ £29,150 against the cheapest
Skoda Octavia 2.0 TDI CR vRS @ £24,750? This Octavia is faster.

You really should both be comparing like with like as well as taking into account true "on the road" prices.

PS I might have some small details wrong so please don't attack me on the nitty gritty model names etc.

Fester I would guess.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/ford/fiesta/hatchback-2008/10-ecoboost-140bhp-zetec-s-red-3d/road-test/65661/facts-and-figures/#roadTestTabAnchor

I drive a smaller car than this. With a slightly bigger engine (Still only a 1.4 .... turbo). That gets to 60 quicker still. No problems getting past trucks on A-roads in it. :smiley:

Ibiza Sport Coupe
1.0 S A/C 3dr
3 door, Petrol, Manual
Band C
54.30 mpg £11760.00 £8731.45 incl VAT
Saving £3028.55 incl VAT

Is this the car you are talking about?

They're more or less the same mechanically. As far as engine technology is concerned it's only really super cars that get bespoke engines. It is a way of offering increasing trim levels throughout their range of products. You have the premium Audi down the range to the Skoda's. Just compare the interiors of both. I totally agree however that badge *****rism is the leading cause of Audi sales.

There seems to be a better spec -Seat Ibiza Sol (same engine though) for £8995 after £3245 deposit contribution from Seat.
Specs include: air con, 15 in alloys and driver pack. Seat UK website.
Just saying..:smiley:

Less than 9 seconds. What car is it ?

But 75bhp isnt normal. It is suboptimal in comparison to the average car on the road. The average car will be accelerating quicker and this thing can't get out of the way or keep up in tricky situations such as roundabouts. Not dissing this car, just making the point that I'd prefer to have better performance to safely pull out and keep up with traffic. It's not about gambling at roundabouts, its about having confidence to drive alongside the average modern car.

Hehe, to be fair the histrionics have not been too bad this time. Usually the predictions are that death awaits anyone who might be brave or foolish enough to venture out in such a vehicle.

​definitely

We used to have a 1.2 polo which was ever slower.

35mpg when ragged, 45 average and about 50+ on a run.

It was totally gutless but a hoot to drive.

I had one of these. Well, a 1.6 "sport". That was nippy enough to be fair but it was just SO boring. Couldn't wait to get rid of it.

If you'd gamble at roundabouts then you'd only have your own impatience to blame.
Any "normal" car is perfectly fine for roundabouts, regardless of engine size.

Most cars do that... funny how im always stuck behind expensive fast cars doing 28!!

Then stop imagining it has all the specs on the website :/

Your stomach has bigger capacity than 6 litres, point?

Don't imagine the mpg will be too good in this. Not a lot of power and probably pretty heavy. You'd spend your life ragging the guts out of it to get anywhere. 0-62 in 14s is pretty slow and I think a lot of people would find it frustrating to drive.

If you can live with that it'll be a decent little car for the money.

It was live on the website yesterday afternoon, last night and this morning. I clicked through and looked it up a few times.

It no longer available.

GB car deals says this deal doesn't exist, so it appears to be a waste of time :smirk:

Clicked on the link and had a look at the GB car deals website, couldn't find this deal listed, so spoke with their sales person, he knew nothing about this deal but was investigating. Has anyone else actually seen this offer?

Voted hot. Putting aside all the comments, this is a good price for a brand new well made car.

However, performance wise....having recently had use of a similar performance car on loan from my Dad (2003 Honda Jazz 1.4), I found pulling out at roundabouts and joining traffic at speed to be less than satisfactory! I personally would not buy a car with this level of performance, but each to their own and I'm sure many people enjoy sitting at roundabouts taking a gamble as to whether their car is quick enough to get out without getting hit or beeped :smiley:
Oh, and it is incredible that people still rumble on about this basically being a Skoda or an Audi. Drive a Skoda for a few days and then jump in an Audi. If you really think the quality of materials , sound deadening and styling is the same you need serious help. Each car is made to a budget and if you are happy with Skoda then fine, but dont pretend to yourself it is an Audi. They may have mechanical parts shared but a car and a driving experience is much more than. This little rant was inspired but someone I know who recently bought a Skoda Octavia VRS Diesel and tried to tell me it was as fast as a new Audi S4.

This is showing at £8731.45 incl VAT am I missing something?

90%? Are you being serious? Grossly exaggerating to make a point is a pretty low blow. I'll tell you what "doesn't show much intelligence", assuming that we shouldn't care about the interior, or how it looks on the outside, or the level of refinement.
Ironic that Skoda and Seat are more reliable than the parent company brand of VW & Audi.

its a 3 door sport coupe. They should have been more clear. Its a model E not model sport. But most 3 doors are classed as sport (Aerodynamic) design based from Rally I believe


its a 3 door sport coupe. They should have been more clear. Its a model E not model sport. But most 3 doors are classed as sport (Aerodynamic) design based from Rally I believe

Good deal. Whether some people don't like it is irrelevant. It's still a good deal.

A lot of car for 7.5K....Much rather have this over a boring Fiesta or Corsa

and 75bhp lol

I dunno, they hold their value OK if you are in it for the long-haul (i.e. dont want a new car every 24months)

If you had it for 4 years(48 months) as a town runabout, that is £156 a month, and you own it and can probably sell it for £4-4.5k if it's been looked after (based on current market), so equates to about 3K for 48 months doesn't seem bad IMO. (~60 quid pcm?)

I know you could buy a cheap C1 or Picanto, but based on hire/courtesy cars I've had, the Ibiza is a bit nicer to ride in and hold their value better than some competitors.

It's a little on the slow side for my liking, but I know plenty of people who have a car purely to get to work through city traffic and to the shops at the weekend.

Just in case anyone needs clarification:

This is an Ibiza SC, which refers to the body shape only. SC essentially means it's a three door. The trim level is 'E', which is their most basic specification.

Maybe.

But if you do much A-road driving cars like this aren't much fun when it comes to overtaking.

Living in Scotland, I do a lot of A-road driving. (As dual carriageways seems to be regarded as a luxury up here ...)

Well, the moniker refers to its looks - not the speed.

Surely if it does 70 mph it is as fast as any other car needs to go.
Divs bleating on about joining motorways, get a grip.
Not a car on the road that couldn't do this regardless of engine size.

90%? Are you being serious? Grossly exaggerating to make a point is a pretty low blow. I'll tell you what "doesn't show much intelligence", assuming that we shouldn't care about the interior, or how it looks on the outside, or the level of refinement.

Shocking reviews of this GB Car Deals place - Avoid!

You've not really thought this theory through have you? :man:

More powerful... not fast.

You were the once citing a fast car being better, not me...

No idea where you get your information from but that sounds suspiciously like a post devoid of any facts.
the only points i'll agree on are cruise easier and accelerate up hills.

Heat for the deal though

Yes, because internet law says any comment made in contradiction of your own opinion must be taken as its most extreme.
Would you drive this car flat out everywhere?
No?
So why would you drive a more powerful car flat out everywhere?

Of course less powerful cars can be fun to drive.
But then again, that not what I said was it??

More convenient
Ah, an actual point. Well done.
Well, a more powerful car is more convenient and easier because it involves fewer gear changes, less stress on the driver, less thought required about gears for that next hill, how much time you will need to accelerate to overtake that next vehicle, how much space and time you'll need to match speed so you can pull out into that gap...

And your final point about a more powerful car being able to carry more and tow more, merely backs up what I said, no idea what point you are trying to make there!!


Now go ahead and take those points to their extreme, or indeed, read stuff into them that I haven't said.

Surprised all the lease fan boys haven't down voted this post to oblivion.

Paul Walker didn't get your memo...


Small, underpowered cars can be fun to drive.


What is convenient about them?


So can a 1.9 Umwelt VW Sharan. Not very fast is it?

Because they are safer, easier, less stressful to drive. More comfortable, more convenient.
Can carry more, tow more. Cruise easier. Accelerate up hills. On fast cruises are actually more economical.
Maybe there are some more, but there are certainly plenty of good reason for wanting a faster, more powerful car.

Not saying everyone NEEDS one, but to dismiss a more powerful car as pointless, is just as bad at least, as criticising this one for being underpowered.

He's merely reflecting a known fact.

Or maybe some people are in a position to happily spend the extra. Don't be so judgemental of how people spend their money.

​Yes, I took legal action against them. It dragged on for nearly 12 months, but I won. As I said, there is also a criminal investigation underway.

Amazing how people still buy an Audi over a Seat or Skoda, when 90% of it is the same car. If people want to pay an extra £10,000 for a plastic badge that's fine with me but it doesn't show much intelligence.

Either they have some clever small print that's easily missed to get away with doing this or it's a clear case for the sale of goods act. Did you take legal action against them?

Ford Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost?

Wrong. This is the Ibiza SC. Not a trim level.

Great price for a good new car so hot. But only really good for people who tootle around town or for first time drivers.

Yes, I think you're right as the one for at that price as 14" wheels which are not even alloys.

They call it Sport coz it looks fast!

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Totally agree with you on the comments on the engine. Best thing is for people to give it a try.

I have the Vista version of the 1.0 for this price. 3 months ago. The engine is great, surprisingly a lot of power considering my last car was more powerful. I think it's the way the engine is configured. Gets the most out of it without having a turbo and expensive insurance groups that seems to be the new car fashion. The Vista is top of the range though, so comes with full kit. This model unfortunately is a bit basic. Depends what you want from a car. Heat added for the price though

I've got the 2016 Skoda Fabia with the same engine (and the Ibiza is based on the same chassis)
Whilst I definitely would not call it a "sport" its a very decent engine and actually sounds really throaty for a 3 cylinder, and 0-40 its a quick perfomer.
On paper, I wanted the 1.2 Turbo but after giving the 75 bhp 1.0 engine a try I absolutely love it, and its definitely not dangerous joining motorways! (and I do this twice a day on my daily commute), so I opted for the 1.0 which was a cheaper car than the 1.2T
Not sure on the Ibiza, but on the Fabia they also do a de-tuned 60 bhp version of the 1.0 engine, that one you probably would want to give it a miss.

Sport is the trim level.

Like FR or SE etc. Same for other VW Group cars, S-Line for Audi, R-Line for VW, etc.

Granted this is pretty slow, just about to swap my 1.2 TSI Ibiza for something with more poke but can't knock the price to be honest.

1.0 Litres! Hah stomach has a bigger capacity then that!

Can only drive 30 most the time mate... dunno why people think its great having fast cars :/

The picture is of a 2008+ pre-facelift FR CR with AFS and Xenons as I have the stinky diesel version in black.

Great car this kind of trim would be ideal as the FR is too harsh for UK roads even after increasing the tyre wall size.

a good little run around car.

Really old engine technology. The new 1 litre engine they do in the Ibiza is much more powerful and efficient. I suppose they're trying to push them out the door so they don't have to try and sell them along the new ones. This will depreciate like a stone.

I have a 1.0 3 cylinder and that does 0-60 in less than 9 seconds and gets similar MPG. It does have 140bhp and a turbo though and I'm paying 7k just to lease it for 3 year...

skill? don't they just pull out and expect everyone else to adjust to them?

The de-facto boy racer/charvers car in 8 years time.

Perfect for any new driver that can afford this! heat

Nice cars to drive though. I have a slightly more powerful Ibiza and it's been the best car I've owned so far. As stated above, when sre you hitting the motorway from a standstill on a non-ramped entrance lane? How often are you doing 0-60 in the middle of any town. Probably time for being realistic. Definitely hot for price alone. As for 'boy racer wanabee' cars of the future, I think Corsas have that hands down, it's always a crappy Vauxhall!!

LOL, garbage.

Good deal for a new car particularly when you consider 14 plate versions all be it with slightly bigger engine slightly better spec can go for £7k from most dealerships.

oh but they love to smash into seat ibiza's though

0-60 in 34 seconds...almost walk as fast.

When was the last time you saw an HGV give way to a Seat Ibiza?

There is a very good reason HGV's join safely. People really don't want to hit them.

Yup my 1 litre takes closer to 20 seconds according to the brochure but I join the motorway just fine :smiley:

HGV's are limited to 60mph and join motorways just fine. A fully loaded HGV takes around 50 seconds 0-60.

14 inch steel wheels. Not the car in the picture.

Good value. But as a Seat Mii owner with the same engine I agree with the commentators who think it may be a tad slow at times. It is. Also the lack of air-con (not mentioned in spec) is a turn-off. But voted hot for what it is at the price. The stated MPG will be nothing like quoted either. 41 mpg is the norm.

The model is the E, sport coupe as one guy said above is the design. If you want faster you need the FR model of this, though still only 7.6s still impressive on fuel consumption though.

You won't be skilled enough to drive a lorry then! :smiley:

Do you join the motorway from a standstill? I used to have a car with almost half this power without issue. Lots of power is rarely required (by drivers that are paying attention to what they're supposed to be doing). :smiley:

"sport" 0-62 mph: 14.3 secs LOL

It's got a "SEAT logo boot release" Hot from me.

probably looks like this

Better than the ancient 1.4 litre they used to do.

It's so fast it beats the Falcon on a Kessel Run...

I'd lease it...

Good price.

Don't think it will look like the one in the pic somehow.

Wouldn't like to be joining the motorway in this. 0-62mph in 14 seconds?

oh ok so it says sport and its slow but its a brand new car for £7500 seat hold their value really well heat from me

Whiplash claim right there.

looks nice

chess is a board game so nope

is chess a sport?

As cheap as this may be, I have to vote cold purely for the sheer nerve of labelling the car 'sport'.

That's taking the Michael a little bit! :smiley:

If you class Darts as a sport, then this is it.