Morrisons british whole milk or semi-skimmed milk 6 pints at 2 for £2 online and instore. Works out to £1 for 6 pints which is the usual price of 4 pints.
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davidbrent
11 May 169#10
Too cheap. This feels like punching the faces of a dairy farmer, his wife and their three rosy cheeked children.
Support British dairy farmers. Once they go, we'll be importing milk and chemical flavoured water from Poland.
chrisjdhuckle
11 May 168#14
I'm a dairy farmer and this is just shocking.
I'm gonna have to sell one of my Range Rovers just can't afford to keep them both on the road as well as my ferrari
fesiii
11 May 165#4
not fair price for farmers!!
Alg999
11 May 163#9
Ripping off the British farmer again. Bl**dy supermarkets.
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fwd079
13 May 16#37
Read the comment above you mate, the "Britishness" of BNP-pride is quite safe, Arla member has cleared the position.
Can we now leave politics and get back to saving money please? Cheers. :smiley:
fwd079
13 May 16#36
Okay, let me make you look ridiculous then. :smiley:
Pay-to-pay means, from pay to the next pay. The "pay" is sort of a slang for "salary", which implies I am in a job.
I hope the above explanation is not extremely complex for your fragile tree-hugging mind.
Now, a person living on salary, has to save money wherever they can. Now that Arla Dairies have cleared their position, you can now get off your high horse, stick the tail in legs and run. :smiley:
Shoo, shoo you posh laddy among plebs. :smile: Let us save some pennies, so that we could live.
chrisjdhuckle
11 May 168#14
I'm a dairy farmer and this is just shocking.
I'm gonna have to sell one of my Range Rovers just can't afford to keep them both on the road as well as my ferrari
davidbrent to chrisjdhuckle
11 May 16#16
aje2010 to chrisjdhuckle
13 May 16#35
Yeah bloody farmers driving these fancy cars, what makes them deserve these, oh hang on waking up 4am, caring for livestock, weather dependent profits, trying to serve the public with local produce despite them just wanting cheap cheap cheap.
Dont get me wrong I love a deal but not at the expense of an entire local/national industry - we need to support UK businesses.
milk2gogo
13 May 161#34
soldierboy001 - We are one of those 2700 British dairy farmer OWNERS of Arla dairy COOPERATIVE.
We ourselves are joint owners - we have paid to join the cooperative, to contribute towards the cost of the existing Arla processing factories, etc.
All profits from the sale of Arla products come back to the farmer owners - there are no shareholders or company owners deciding how much (or little) they can get away paying us. It means that, as an owner I can tell you all about Arla cooperative because any promotion directly helps my milk price. I most certainly wouldn't be going to supermarkets & talking to customers about our farm & cows if it helped fill the pockets of Mr Muller, Dairy Crest, Danone, Yoplait, etc!
As coop owner members our milk price is made purely from dividing all income from our milk, equally between all 12700 Arla farmer owners. There is no extra pot of money to give us a milk price greater than the value of our milk sold, so at the moment our milk price can be less than our cost of production, due to world oversupply & extremely competitive milk markets.
We all hope this situation will soon start to improve.
All Arla members have a say in how our cooperative is run, there is a democratic system in place. At the moment the British Arla Board of Representatives (farmer ownerss) are over in Sweden discussing prices & policies with other BoR.
In 2008 when the members of AFMP joined Arla, it was referred to the Monoplogies & Mergers Commision but everything was Ok.
As dairy farmer owners of a cooperative we feel more in control of our 'destiny' & not paid at the whim of the processors who naturally have their own business needs at a priority.
We're very grateful to everyone who supports us & our business Arla. <3
soldierboy001
13 May 16#33
I said you know nothing, who are these over 2,500 farmers that are getting paid for milk they don't produce as there are less than 10,000 dairy farmers in the UK down from over 25,000 in 2000.
If that doesn't tell you something then you carry on and let the farmers join the dole, and when they are all out of business and you are out of the EU lets see how much you will have to pay for your milk then.
You obviously know nothing about the cooperative, but I'll tell you, come along farmers we'll be stronger together, OK now we will tell you how much we are going to pay you for your milk and if it is not enough then you can go out of business it does not matter to us because we can source milk elsewhere and we are in business still. The farmers are members not joint owners and have no say in the running, pricing etc.. If they had a say do you really think that they would pay themselves below a selling price that that puts them out of business.
Personally I think there is a case for the monopolies commission, but obviously they don't seem interested.
milk2gogo
12 May 161#32
Yes, Arla is a European dairy coop. It is owned by 12,700 dairy farmers, around 3,000 of whom are British - that's a quarter of all British milk.
As bigweapon07 says. there's too much milk at the moment - Russian embagoes & trade bans with the Chinese means there's not the markets for milk & milk products that there used to be.
This means that prices are extremely competitive at the moment - milk is largely perishable & must be sold asap. Huge amounts have already been turned into Dried Milk powder & cheese & so prices of these have fallen too.
The price that dairy farmers are given for their milk is based on what it can be sold for - there is no surplus pot of money to pay us any extra than what it is can be sold for.
As the cows go out to grass they naturally produce more milk ... & this will just add to the problem!
This is why the deals that Arla has negotiated for it's farmer owners with Morrisons (Asda & Aldi) are really good - they have agreed to pay a #fairprice for our milk & that then allows them to make their own offers & deals on the shelf (to remain competitive with other supermarkets) without affecting the money the Arla dairy farmers receive.
Unfortunately all Arla's milk isn't sold to just these "supermarkets with a conscience" & so because of world markets our milk price might still fall.
Our costs of production have no relevance to the price we receive - it's up to us (if we're to survive these low prices) to try to get it as low as possible.
Like steel & retailers, etc - some of us will survive ... & some won't!
Other milk processors may have to sell their British milk to supermarkets at very cheap prices - & then pass this low price to their farmers - because the milk has got to be sold somewhere, to someone ... before it goes off! :disappointed:
bigweapon07
12 May 16#31
Haha you numpty. Dont believe the hype you read. Arla are a co op owned by 12500 farmers. They joined. They know the rules. They should stock woth them.
THE MILK INDUSTRY IS OVER PRODUCING thus the low price paid. Like i said are the farmers willing to...
Pay way over the odds for petrol to save our north sea jobs?
Pay way over the odds for steel for construction to save the guys in the steel industry?
Go shop at BHS and the other retailers instead of the online cheap areas to save their jobs.
Just a british SELFISH way with the poor farmers thinking they are the only ones feeling the pinch nowadays. Like someone said.. get off that horse of yours.
soldierboy001
12 May 16#30
I'm sorry but you have obviously not read the reports and the history of Arla which is a Danish company and bought out Express Dairies and then integrated British Dairy Farmers into it's company giving the impresion that they were going to give the farmers a good deal, but that proved to be a big con as they now tell the Dairy Farmers how much they are going to get for their milk irrespective how much it costs them to produce it. They then tell the stores how much they have to pay to get the milk, which is a bit strange considering they have the virtual monopoly on milk sales.
Also the fair price scam that Morrison's brought out also gave a false impression as was covered by BBC Watchdog in that although they but a Union Jack on the bottle giving the impression that the money would go to British Farmers, it actually went to Arla who distributed it to European Farmers it supported.
When you see farmer owned on the label it means farmer owned whether British or European.
Any doubts feel free to read Arla Foods on WiKi.
soldierboy001
12 May 16#29
I ain't moaning just taking your ridiculous statement to pieces and ripping it into tiny shreds.
user777
12 May 16#17
gathering from the comments, I suppose people are not aware that connection between price of milk in supermarkets and what farmers are paid is very remote;it is not economy of market stall
milk2gogo to user777
12 May 162#28
The milk sold in Morrisons is from Arla dairy farmers.
Arla is paid a #fairprice by Morrisons & it doesn't change ... regardless of the prices / offers they make in store.
Arla is a dairy cooperative & so is farmer owned. Our milk price is made up from the sales returns for our products & so we're grateful to not only Morrisons, but Asda & Aldi who have decided to pay a fair price of the milk in their own brand bottles. These bottles will have our #farmerowned logo on them.
The Morrisons 'Milk for Farmers' brand does give shoppers the opportunity to pay extra for your milk & please be assured that the money definitely does come back to us - Thank you. :sunglasses:
When you see the 'Farmer Owned' logo on dairy products you know all profits go direct to the farmer.
Thank you for thinking about us. <3
What I'm trying to say is, don't worry about the offers that Morrisons (Asda & Aldi) have, as they do pay Arla dairy farmers a #fairprice for it in the first place.
AsianDiscount
12 May 161#27
Good deal aside, I feel that ethics has a role to play. I'm not in favour of ruining a farmers life in order to save a few pennies. The government should intervene as in this case the 'free market' is clearly not working.
davidbrent
12 May 162#26
Cheap milk may save you a few pence today but we all lose out in the long run if this continues. Nor just our own dairy farmers but you and me when it comes to the quality of the milk we end up with, whether 2, 5 or 10 years from now. Like I said, if you want rubbish imported milk from Eastern Europe or similar for future generations, carry on.
savvyB
12 May 16#25
Cheaper than the 3rd world countries, unbelievable!! Not sure how this is possible...pure deflation!!
fwd079
12 May 161#24
Did you even read my comment mate?
Do you even know what living on monthly pay-to-pay means?
Can you even realise that you're still on the high horse I asked you to get off? :smiley:
Anyway, keep moaning, I'm not going to waste any more time, got money to save, you know, the reason folks come on ** deals ** sites? :smiley:
Juke987
12 May 161#23
Yet again not coming off the supermarkets profit - just robbing the British Dairy Farmer - British Agriculture is a dying breed
fwd079
12 May 162#20
Sorry for all rich folks here, but this is a "deals" website in case you didn't notice? This is for poor folks like myself living on monthly pay-to-pay. Please take your high horses elsewhere, let us poor folks buy cheap milk so we can survive, cheers.
Heat from me, more of such stuff please. :smiley:
soldierboy001 to fwd079
12 May 16#22
Well dang my breaches for daring to comment on Morrison's ethics. Sorry you don't have a job to be able to afford sensibly priced milk and you will be able to coach the farmers on how to remain sustainable cost wise when they join you on the dole.
janine1969
12 May 16#21
That would be great but both times I've been in to get it they don't have any 6 pint bottles....not even empty place on the shelves!
bigweapon07
12 May 16#19
I suppose the farmers are going to the petrol stations and offering to pay £1.50 a litre to stop the 1000s of oil workers losing their jobs in the north sea...
Whats that... a no?
fesiii
11 May 165#4
not fair price for farmers!!
soldierboy001 to fesiii
12 May 16#18
Yes, what happened to their fair deal for farmers milk, must have been a cheap publicity stunt. If it wasn't for the fact I already boycott Morrison's, I would boycott them for this. But the list is growing.
davidbrent
11 May 169#10
Too cheap. This feels like punching the faces of a dairy farmer, his wife and their three rosy cheeked children.
Support British dairy farmers. Once they go, we'll be importing milk and chemical flavoured water from Poland.
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Support British dairy farmers. Once they go, we'll be importing milk and chemical flavoured water from Poland.
I'm gonna have to sell one of my Range Rovers just can't afford to keep them both on the road as well as my ferrari
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Can we now leave politics and get back to saving money please? Cheers. :smiley:
Pay-to-pay means, from pay to the next pay. The "pay" is sort of a slang for "salary", which implies I am in a job.
I hope the above explanation is not extremely complex for your fragile tree-hugging mind.
Now, a person living on salary, has to save money wherever they can. Now that Arla Dairies have cleared their position, you can now get off your high horse, stick the tail in legs and run. :smiley:
Shoo, shoo you posh laddy among plebs. :smile: Let us save some pennies, so that we could live.
I'm gonna have to sell one of my Range Rovers just can't afford to keep them both on the road as well as my ferrari
Dont get me wrong I love a deal but not at the expense of an entire local/national industry - we need to support UK businesses.
We ourselves are joint owners - we have paid to join the cooperative, to contribute towards the cost of the existing Arla processing factories, etc.
All profits from the sale of Arla products come back to the farmer owners - there are no shareholders or company owners deciding how much (or little) they can get away paying us. It means that, as an owner I can tell you all about Arla cooperative because any promotion directly helps my milk price. I most certainly wouldn't be going to supermarkets & talking to customers about our farm & cows if it helped fill the pockets of Mr Muller, Dairy Crest, Danone, Yoplait, etc!
As coop owner members our milk price is made purely from dividing all income from our milk, equally between all 12700 Arla farmer owners. There is no extra pot of money to give us a milk price greater than the value of our milk sold, so at the moment our milk price can be less than our cost of production, due to world oversupply & extremely competitive milk markets.
We all hope this situation will soon start to improve.
All Arla members have a say in how our cooperative is run, there is a democratic system in place. At the moment the British Arla Board of Representatives (farmer ownerss) are over in Sweden discussing prices & policies with other BoR.
There are less than 10,000 dairy farmers in just England & Wales
http://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-information/farming-data/producer-numbers/uk-producer-numbers/
UK figures include Scotland & N.Ireland (sorry, can't find up-to-date figures)
http://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-information/farming-data/producer-numbers/eu-producer-numbers/
In 2008 when the members of AFMP joined Arla, it was referred to the Monoplogies & Mergers Commision but everything was Ok.
As dairy farmer owners of a cooperative we feel more in control of our 'destiny' & not paid at the whim of the processors who naturally have their own business needs at a priority.
We're very grateful to everyone who supports us & our business Arla. <3
If that doesn't tell you something then you carry on and let the farmers join the dole, and when they are all out of business and you are out of the EU lets see how much you will have to pay for your milk then.
You obviously know nothing about the cooperative, but I'll tell you, come along farmers we'll be stronger together, OK now we will tell you how much we are going to pay you for your milk and if it is not enough then you can go out of business it does not matter to us because we can source milk elsewhere and we are in business still. The farmers are members not joint owners and have no say in the running, pricing etc.. If they had a say do you really think that they would pay themselves below a selling price that that puts them out of business.
Personally I think there is a case for the monopolies commission, but obviously they don't seem interested.
As bigweapon07 says. there's too much milk at the moment - Russian embagoes & trade bans with the Chinese means there's not the markets for milk & milk products that there used to be.
This means that prices are extremely competitive at the moment - milk is largely perishable & must be sold asap. Huge amounts have already been turned into Dried Milk powder & cheese & so prices of these have fallen too.
The price that dairy farmers are given for their milk is based on what it can be sold for - there is no surplus pot of money to pay us any extra than what it is can be sold for.
As the cows go out to grass they naturally produce more milk ... & this will just add to the problem!
This is why the deals that Arla has negotiated for it's farmer owners with Morrisons (Asda & Aldi) are really good - they have agreed to pay a #fairprice for our milk & that then allows them to make their own offers & deals on the shelf (to remain competitive with other supermarkets) without affecting the money the Arla dairy farmers receive.
Unfortunately all Arla's milk isn't sold to just these "supermarkets with a conscience" & so because of world markets our milk price might still fall.
Our costs of production have no relevance to the price we receive - it's up to us (if we're to survive these low prices) to try to get it as low as possible.
Like steel & retailers, etc - some of us will survive ... & some won't!
Other milk processors may have to sell their British milk to supermarkets at very cheap prices - & then pass this low price to their farmers - because the milk has got to be sold somewhere, to someone ... before it goes off! :disappointed:
THE MILK INDUSTRY IS OVER PRODUCING thus the low price paid. Like i said are the farmers willing to...
Pay way over the odds for petrol to save our north sea jobs?
Pay way over the odds for steel for construction to save the guys in the steel industry?
Go shop at BHS and the other retailers instead of the online cheap areas to save their jobs.
Just a british SELFISH way with the poor farmers thinking they are the only ones feeling the pinch nowadays. Like someone said.. get off that horse of yours.
Also the fair price scam that Morrison's brought out also gave a false impression as was covered by BBC Watchdog in that although they but a Union Jack on the bottle giving the impression that the money would go to British Farmers, it actually went to Arla who distributed it to European Farmers it supported.
When you see farmer owned on the label it means farmer owned whether British or European.
Any doubts feel free to read Arla Foods on WiKi.
The milk sold in Morrisons is from Arla dairy farmers.
Arla is paid a #fairprice by Morrisons & it doesn't change ... regardless of the prices / offers they make in store.
Arla is a dairy cooperative & so is farmer owned. Our milk price is made up from the sales returns for our products & so we're grateful to not only Morrisons, but Asda & Aldi who have decided to pay a fair price of the milk in their own brand bottles. These bottles will have our #farmerowned logo on them.
The Morrisons 'Milk for Farmers' brand does give shoppers the opportunity to pay extra for your milk & please be assured that the money definitely does come back to us - Thank you. :sunglasses:
When you see the 'Farmer Owned' logo on dairy products you know all profits go direct to the farmer.
Thank you for thinking about us. <3
What I'm trying to say is, don't worry about the offers that Morrisons (Asda & Aldi) have, as they do pay Arla dairy farmers a #fairprice for it in the first place.
Do you even know what living on monthly pay-to-pay means?
Can you even realise that you're still on the high horse I asked you to get off? :smiley:
Anyway, keep moaning, I'm not going to waste any more time, got money to save, you know, the reason folks come on ** deals ** sites? :smiley:
Heat from me, more of such stuff please. :smiley:
Whats that... a no?
Support British dairy farmers. Once they go, we'll be importing milk and chemical flavoured water from Poland.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/morrisons-6-pint-milk-3-48l-both-semi-skimmed-full-fat-2-for-2-morrisons-2441598