Queue the muppets who think a Beko is superior...

I own my house.
If i haven't got the money to buy something i either save up or do without.

Great price and a quality machine,However a 2 year guarantee,no matter how good they are is the down side of this deal.Paying this much i'd want a 5 year guarantee at least.

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Queue the muppets who think a Beko is superior...

having had both miele and beko machines I would recommend them both. The miele lasted almost 20 years!

Doesn't come with the usual 10 year guarantee?

The wife used to work at miele and even staff couldnt get it for this price new. Heat added.

Good quality brand' but be warned if / when it goes wrong they send you a cardboard box to pack it up in and then it gets collected by some dodgy carrier who'll literally throw it into the back of his van for return to Miele for inspection/repair.

Ok I'm probably exaggerating a bit seeing as this is a washer it might be different because of the weight?!

Anything easily transported it's a box sent to you and then pick up and wait service' hope for the best!

Shocking really when you consider the money spent.

Heat added for the brand & deal though :smiley:

I have a Miele dishwasher that's been very good. My Miele fridge was absolutely rubbish. They have a good reputation for washing machines though.

Just a bit...

They don't make their fridges alas

Great price. Bullet proof machine. Our Miele has washed reusable nappies for 4 children over the course of 7 years

Great price and a quality machine,However a 2 year guarantee,no matter how good they are is the down side of this deal.Paying this much i'd want a 5 year guarantee at least.

Not really as I speak from experience with a hoover' however I doubt they'd send a box for a washer? I'm sure my comment says that' maybe you can't read.

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Shame it's white

Haven't got one

You should get one: boost your credit score, allow you to pay T+(45-56) and gives you Section 75 protection (i.e. more than the two years and upto six years)

Oh that's alright then' it's not made by Miele but re-badged as a Miele' sold as a Miele but eh it's not actually what it says it is 'alas' - it's ok to be rubbish then :confused:

You would know, it would appear...

Not at all - I don't have any experience with rubbish' just merely pointing out a few facts.
Sorry to have put a stop to your gallop so quickly :wink:

You havn't but good try nevertheless...

If that's all you've got I think you'll find I have :smile:

We can play this game all night if you want...

Haven't got the time' sorry to disappoint - I'll leave you to troll deals with your one liners' nah night. :wink:

Yes good night, dear

Why do i need a credit score?

You don't need one but should you ever to wish to buy a house or borrow some money then you may have issues getting it

we've used miele washing machine for twenty years and two children. just bought our second machine last year. really brings a shine to the kids ☺

Don't get the point. It's a white good literally. Any machine with a 5 year guarantee would be better than this. Are you really going to buy a washing machine in the belief it will last 20 years - even when the manufacturer doesn't with the measly 2 year guarantee

I own my house.
If i haven't got the money to buy something i either save up or do without.

​Agreed. There's no doubt Miele make some great quality machines, but I've had a Beko for 6 years without a single fault and it cost about half the price of this machine. But that's taking nothing away from this deal, excellent price.

I've had my LG washing machine for 10 years now. The Hot Point one before that even longer. And those were bought with the expectation of lasting 5 years (with cost to reflect that). Can't see the point of Miele being so expensive. Does it wash better than everything else out there? Just sounds pointless

Super! However you were complaining about the lack of a five year warranty. That was your free solution.

In YOUR opinion it may be. In reality it is not.

I worry that the bottom of the range Miele might not be better than a high end Bosch

Oh yes it is (thumbs nose)! :smile:

I put Miele in the same category as Apple, Audi, etc... Decent products at vastly inflated prices. The VALUE equation puts brands like BEKO at the sweet spot.

Good price for those who want miele in the belief that it will last long long time... We were just looking for one and in the end went for a Samsung 8 kg one for £349 from argos with 5 years warranty. Piece of mind and was a which best buy for what it's worth...

Some stupid comments on this deal. It's a washing machine, not a hoover, so why mention the warranty procedure for a different product and use a question mark to show your ignorance. A quick visit to their site clearly points out to you that they don't post a 'cardboard box' to send them back in.

Miele appliances
In the unlikely event that you believe your new appliance to be faulty, please call 0330 160 6600. If we cannot rectify the problem over the telephone, we will arrange for a Miele Service Technician or service partner to visit your home and inspect your appliance, replacing any failed parts and ensure it is working as intended.

https://www.miele.co.uk/domestic/gtc-48.htm

It doesn't cos a Beko will not last sixteen years and have an inferior quality wash. So why compromise? (Bought three for three flats I let - Two claimed under warranty and the third failed after 29 months and beyond economical repair)

I live in a flat. Our Miele washing machine is great because it's so quiet. Even at full spin, it's just a hum. The previous machine shook the whole flat. Only two issues with it:
-It almost washes too well! All the pictures on my t-shirts are fading, so I'm using the delicates setting quite a bit of the time. Stuff I used to wash at 60C is now fine at 40C. 40C stuff is now clean at 30C.
-It weighs about twice as much as the machine it replaced. I nearly had a hernia humping it into its slot. Not looking forward to extracting it if I ever move.

Can you explain how using a credit card gives you a 5 year warranty?

Yes, buying on credit card gives you the extra Section 75 protection making the CC company jointly and severely liable as the retailer.
However, if a washing machine becomes faulty after two years, you still have statutory rights under the Sales of Goods Act. The purchaser would need to get a independent report to show the that the washing machine was inherently fault, and could claim from the retailer. Being able to claim from the CC provider, doesn't give you any extra rights or any warranty, it may however make claiming easier.

This is true, we've got a fairly new Liebherr, cost around £1600, it's the best fridge I've ever used. Liebherr also make a lot of industrial fridges and freezers.

The statute of limitations in the UK is six years (five in Scotland) so this is the deadline you have to work to if you were to pursue a Section 75 claim through the courts.

Miele washing machines are heavier than others as they are better built both for performance and durability reasons.

They use more metal than anyone else and opt for cast iron weights instead of concrete.


Different manufacturers target specific customer groups, and Miele have opted for the group that values high quality top performing long lasting products.

Some useful info; http://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/miele-washing-machines/

The statutory rights given by Sales of Goods Act are 6 years. Whether you pay cash, debit or credit card you have the same rights. Section 75 simply makes the CC liable as the retailer would be.

Don't get me wrong, using the CC for Section 75 protection is great for many reasons - it protects against retailers going bust, makes claims easier, and gives access ombudsman services for disputes. But you cannot compare statutory rights, with a manufactures warranty / guarantee.

I can because I used it exactly for that purpose stating to Natwest at the time that I didn't expect a Bosch fridge-freezer to have failed after 53 months.

Could you please point me to the one you purchased?

Many thanks

A manufacturer warranty / guarantee gives extra rights above and beyond those given by law. They can never remove statutory rights, so a warranty only gives more rights.

You used statutory rights. The exact rights you had against the retailer. It gives you an extra target that is all. A target that is generally easier to enforce against. due to the risk of you going to the ombudsman.

I got the equivalent of a warranty as Natwest paid for the inquiry and the repair.

Do co-op electrical have a service to take your old machine away?

price has gone up :disappointed:

And that's where the problems invariably start, with all of them. It's a different way of using up your year's holiday entitlement.

That is your individual experience though which should not be compared to something like a reliability survey from 1000s of owners giving a realistic average. This one from Which shows Beko has good reliability but as you can see review rating and performance are not as good.



Miele's do fail and the cost of repair is as proportionately high as the initial cost with expensive parts and use of only approved Miele repair agents.

No question though Miele are better than Beko for performance but Beko are superb value for their money with reliability which exceeds most of their competitors but not Miele or Bosch. All brands of washing machine fail though its highly mechanical device so for many an included 5 year parts and labour guarantee is important for complete peace of mind. If a Miele fails after 2 years the repair cost can be extortionate and could be a write-off. The retailer or credit card company are not going to be keen to cough up the repair cost without major resistance and it may well prove unsuccessful especially with many Miele repairs costing hundreds of pounds.

You make it sound like Miele washing machines don't fail but they are only a few percentage points about Bosch typically who are a few percentage points above Beko. 92% reliability is still an 8% failure rate.

Miele customer service is not highly rated.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.miele.co.uk

Still great products though but lets not present unrealistic overly rosy view of their products. A huge number fail despite their high entry price you are part paying for the expensive cost of manufacture in Germany. 5 or 10 years ago the difference in reliability between Miele and its competitors was more striking but there has been a slow decline in comparison with their competitors.

I've had a Miele washing machine for about 7 years and it has been superb. I have 4 kids so it is very well used.

When we moved house about 5 years ago it failed - it developed a leak as it must have been damaged in the moving process despite using the supplied transportation bars. It was still within it's 5 year warranty at the time. I called Miele, they came out the next day and repaired it no questions asked. It's been great since, cleans really well and still looks as good as new. It was pricey but I expect it to last 20 years.

Ultimately you get what you pay for and when you work out the per year cost I don't think it was overly expensive.

I have the same mentality. I've recently started thinking about buying a house, did you get a mortgage? and did you have any trouble getting one if you did?

it's £559

Looks like it has gone up in price and now is £399. Model no is Samsung WF80F5E0W2W. I think here there was a deal for Samsung 9kg machine for around £400.

Like the way people are still voting this hot :-)

Had this machine for nearly 2 months now and have to say it's superb, build quality and wash performance are second to none with clothes coming out almost dry and don't seem to really need ironing either!

Delivery service was very good with it unpacked and transport bolts removed - was easy for me the level and had it up and running in around 15 mins. - it barely moves at all when spinning at 1400rpm due to the weight of the thing!