Yes. If you've ever owned an iPad you'll know it is great for movies, games and music... But nothing else. The surface 3 is geared towards those that actually want to do something productive. It runs desktop software, has USB and best of all - doesn't require iTunes.

I find that a mouse-and-keyboard is essential for any real productivity. Sure, iOS apps are touch optimised, but I don't think it's very easy to format a Word document using touch alone. An iPad can "kind of do productivity" just like a Surface can "kind of do relaxing". Ultimately, neither devices can bridge both work and play - it's a question of priorities.

Before someone jumps in and says buy a laptop, here are the positives of a Surface (for me):

- perfectly adequate performance (not sure about gaming; fine for other stuff)
- great screen (fractionally sub-Retina, but absoutely fine and very bright)
- genuinely portable
- proper USB port (for connecting a printer / SD card reader...)
- Micro SD card slot for expanding storage
- drag-and-drop content or transfer using USB stick (no hateful iTunes bloatware to sync media)
- not too heavy in the hand (think iPad 1 or 2, from the old days)
- micro USB charging - same as my phone (and other baby tablet)
- can use a Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad/mouse
- stand built in (better than folding a case and knocking your wobbly tablet off a desk)
- reasonable battery life
- pen pretty good (don't really use) and cheap (£45, half the price of Apple's Pencil)
- doesn't look stupid in portrait mode any more (3:2 ratio helps)
- £350 or £450 - really pretty reasonable prices
- no fan kicking in
- long-term, straight-away software updates (better than eternal wait for Android updates)
- full Windows desktop and file management ...
- ... or tablet mode when you just want web / email / touch apps

And (my) downsides:

- Microsoft touch cover unpleasantly expensive (~£110)
- lack of decent alternative cases / covers
- keyboard cover a faff when folded back around (but easily detached)
- heavier than an iPad for browsing on your lap
- 3:2 portrait mode still not quite as comfortable as iPad's 4:3 ratio
- battery life not-quite-all-day
- lack of touch-friendly media apps (Spotify, Amazon Prime Video...)
- possibly replacement soon? (came out a year ago)
- maybe too close to an ultraportable laptop, which might have better keyboard / trackpad / battery life

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. I think the Surface 3 is a great device, and I have no doubt that it is perfectly adequate for people who don't want to do intensive stuff like Photoshop or gaming.

I hope this helped someone.

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That's a bit of a difficult comparison. I'd see this more of a productive device, the iPad more for entertaining.

You just have to ask yourself, do I want a full Windows experience on a laptop with a lack of polished, touch based apps but full desktop programmes. Or an iPad.

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Erm :confused:

I bought 2 Surface 3's (128GB/4GB) for a combined £460 on Gumtree...including 2 type covers and 1 pen. Both within warranty, and both pristine. (One even had W8.1 Pro installed - so it now has W10 Pro :smiley: ).

Also, there is no need to show proof of ownership to get warranty service. I sent one of the typecovers off due to the mouse pad rattling. All I needed to provide was the serial number.

Microsoft. There was a TopCashback offer at the time I think. But it was reduced on the Microsoft store on top of that.

Microsoft. There was a TopCashback offer at the time I think. But it was reduced on the Microsoft store on top of that.

​Absolute Tosh. Windows is the OS used by the majority of the Corporates for productivity that you buy services and goods from, from Tesco, to Virgin, to Network Rail to First Direct. IOS is used on mobiles in corporates and consumers for mainly entertainment.

Where from?

I only paid about £30 more for the 128gb 4gb ram version last year.

​gotta agree, surely any gaming would be really limited

that Linx tablet has the weedy Atom Z3735 processor; this Surface has a much newer better X7-8700.
it's about double the performance
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2326&cmp[]=2506

Everything's up to date. I'll go back on the iPad tomorrow and describe the problem better.

Could it be that you are using an old outdated version of iOS and are not able to update the YouTube app? Unless I'm missing something those recommendations are still there after exiting full screen. If you are talking about the search results...just swipe down on the video and there they are...? :neutral_face:

Did someone say Apple? :man:

I've had both this and an iPad. This is a cracking little laptop that can do some tablet like stuff. I got frustrated though with the lack of decent tablet style apps. Things like newspaper apps, games etc are nowhere near as good as on an iPad. I tried blue stacks but it is slow and buggy and sucks battery like. I want this tone the ultimate device but not there yet IMO due to the app gap. Don't let the Atom put you off by the way, I was running visual studio on the 4GB version just fine. Surfaces are great. Just not brilliant as tablets.

Again specs alone doesnt mean everything.build quality,engineering and high quality parts being used makes worlds of difference.also design is a complex subject it doesnt mean fashion and aesthetics only.
I have owned a lynx tablet for 1 week only,the build quality and specially quality of the screen was horrible not even close this this.infact comparing the two is a joke..it was probably made from recycled plastic and worst quality bits and pieces hence the price and no science or wisdom behind its design..

Lol you must be joking..this is a well made product,with nice build quality and some science behind its design,good quality parts used etc..now you compare this to crappy knock off like that..its just ridiculous.
you need to learn there is huge difference between products engineered and designed by well known brands like Apple,Microsoft,Samsung etc and cheap nasty budget products..numbers and specs alone arent everything.

Sounds like a cracking piece of kit mate! I'm in both camps when it comes to Apple and Microsoft, I've been installing servers since the Novell days, this would use TeamViewer and being able to use a mouse would make remote support much easier, I presume that's possible even with the MS keyboard attached! Opcom is a piece of software used to diagnose cars like a Vauxhall, thanks chap

Yep, I've only had my Surface for a couple of weeks - but I already love the thing. I did have an Asus T100 - but this Surface just blitzes it on the performance front. I am also making a lot more use of the pen than expected, & the speakers/screen brightness just make it perfect for watching iPlayer and what not.
I'm really looking forward to taking it cycle touring. Being able to plug in full size USB 3 card reader and then edit whilst the videos/pictures are still on the card is going to be a real time saver. & the pen makes photo editing much more enjoyable (vs the usual trackpad).

I've never seen or heard of those apps. If they are freelt available, then I'll install them later and report back. If it is any indication of performance, World of Tanks Blitz plays at 61fps on the ultra graphics settings. So this machine has definitely got some poke. Oh, and 1080p videos render at better than real time speeds (took about 3 minutes to render a 5 minute 1080p video the other day - the videos coming from a Canon EOS M - so pretty high bitrate)

Lol, so a good business decision is copying, not quite the same thing, the guy who sold it was a bit of a fool really (but that was 86-DOS from Seattle Computer Products, not Digital Research's DR-DOS), but then Bill Gates had already convinced IBM to buy his software, so unlike Gary Kildall, he had a business head, Kildall had failed in his negotiations with IBM, but that was for CPM, not DR-DOS, which in fact came after MS-DOS.

I've been in this industry long enough to have used a Xerox Alto, my first PC programming job was writing software for GEM, so I've used a lot of the forerunners for ideas that Apple 'invented'.

On another point of history, Seattle Computer Products, sold the license in total for $75000 which at the time was a lot more than today, but still tiny compared to the profit MS made, but after selling it, they used the money to expand their existing business and had their best year, the following year, making $1m profit. Eventually after a law suite they got nearly another $1m from MS to remove any contract issues over anyone else selling the software. So perhaps not the ripped of small guy that the media like to portray the deal. $1m in 1982 is roughly equivalent to $2.5m today for a point of reference.

mike

That video is amazing, just shows what the surface 3 can do, makes me want one lol, not sure I can justify it though, I have a iMac 21.5", MacBook Pro, iPad 3, Samsung i7 laptop and a Dell server running s Windows Server 2012, do you think the wife would notice lol!!! On an app note would the Surface 3 run opcom or vauxcom?

You're absolutely right I actually own an iPad 1 64GB!


1. Open Youtube
2. Search for a video
3. Select a video to play, notice the recommendations below the video
4. Play video fullscreen, now try to go back to those recommendations
5. You can't go back to them as there's no back function, there's no way to go back to them

I've given it to 3 or 4 people to try and looked online and there's no way to do it.

​It is actually £89 if u shop around.

Oh please don't get me started on companies who bootleg ideas as Microsoft are the worst, the idea behind Windows and GUI's in general was stolen from a Xerox printer, DR-Dos sound familiar to you? Thought not... Oh you may know it as MS-Dos after Microsoft underpaid for ownership and stripped the name.

Isn't the pretty little pictures, exactly the premise behind iOS? Probably the only time MS has copied Apple where they've not already stolen the idea from someone else. (there's probably some obscure GUI that looks like iOS and came out months before and was copied by Apple, but I'm not aware of it).

mike

You lost this discussion long ago. Time to move on

Could you tell me which tablet you've used with this processor...because aside from the Surface 3, I can't think of any other tablet that uses this highest spec Atom

2GB ram for this price, even if its a surface still feels like a rip off

​It's got nothing to do with the device itself since the context of that article is based on tablets and such being a distraction, not less efficient as note taking devices.

I have a Surface Pro 3 and One Note with the Surface pen is the greatest thing I have ever used for university lectures. It makes it so much more easier to simultaneously record lectures and note take as it will automatically throw in time stamps to match your notes to a specific time during a recording. Also highlighting and snapping in diagrams/images and annotating them is a whole lot easier than printing out multiple handouts and annotating them individually. Digging up notes couldn't be more easier to due One Drive integration. Telling students to not use it because of a silly article as that is a bit daft. It's entirely up to how the individual makes use of such tools.

Do the Windows tiles make it easier for you to use a computer? Pretty little pictures instead of using command line? I guess you have a Windows phone too? Bill Gates poster in your room? who's the infant. Face it Windows will never be the same and move on. lmao :sunglasses:

Just for the JLP returns policy it worth a punt if you are in the market. HOT
But students, don't use it in the actual lectures as its proven to have a negative effect to old fashion note taking. Wait till you get back to the hall or digs to write up your notes.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/05/12/students-using-laptops-and-tablets-in-class-perform-worse-in-exa/
The 9.7" iPad Pro is an excellent machine (recent JLP purchase) but only for output & occasional MS Word processing with a bluetooth keyboard or the excellent but expensive apple smart keyboard http://www.apple.com/uk/smart-keyboard/.

For those who like to take a gamble,

http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_350502.html?currency=GBP&gclid=CjwKEAjwsYW6BRCTzvu5y8DPhi0SJABnGLlH5mlMaTnhh8zG-6c64cpbS6zdcs3kqG5h70k4CM9dmxoC-7Xw_wcB


Review vs Surface 3

http://techtablets.com/chuwi-hi12/review/

If we're going to throw in alternatives, how about Dell Venue Pro 11, with the Core M processor, I picked up one from the Dell Outlet for around the price of the surface 3 here, but mine came with the latest Core M (at the time 5Y71 I think), 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD. I've since added a keyboard with battery and pen.

What's interesting, the moment you move to windows on a high end tablet, suddenly all the benefits of the iPad seem to fall away, but you add a whole host of new benefits. I've run massive SQL databases, done video encoding, Photoshop, coding and pretty much all the jobs you'd do on a PC without much problem, yeah it can't encode as quickly as my multi-CPU workstation, but then for the same cost in electricity it lasts 36 hours vs 1 hour. Ignoring the portability benefits.

Pros
Faster CPU
More RAM
More SSD
Battery life nearly double (without keyboard) with keyboard 4x.
Vastly cheaper.

Cons
Not sexy in the slightest
Screen probably isn't as good, though haven't done a side by side
Keyboard probably isn't quite as good
Pen may not be so good.

mike

consider the Sony z4 tablet, it's kinda in between the two of them but better than iPad in every way. comes with a great keyboard, has every app you could ever need, memory expandable with sd slot,

Once upon a time iPad used to be cool. Since ios 8.1 and beyond, have read about constant freeze, glitches. ios 9.3.2 screws up iPad Pro 9.7. My iPad air, post ios 9.1 upgrade has become an expensive piece of beautiful iJunk. Numerous soft reset and 4-5 hard resets (iTunes) have not helped. Apple support are not fit for purpose and have no clue, apart from enticing to upsell and go to iPad Pro. Honestly, the innovation, ease of use has gone out of the Window for Apple.

​why did that make you laugh out loud? did you also roll on the floor laughing?

it's a very good price for a surface however having tried tablets with the same processor i could speculate that you wouldn't enjoy it much as it lacks the power and memory.

​Lmao

Clearly never used one have you? Ignore the old Atoms, the Cherry Trail is a different beast

Overpriced old tech.

Ignore the infant's toxic tease. He meant Windows is greatest.

Thank you dwor - it helps me :smile:

Nonsense. In fact, one of the two Surface 3's I own has Windows Pro installed.

Why? Because it is a business to business sale by Microsoft, which went to some higher education institution.

There is no technical reason why these Surface 3's can't be considered business devices. After all, Microsoft themselves are selling them TO businesses!

That's fine.I don't think you even own an Air 2 anyways. :wink:

​not intended for business the clue is there is "pro" missing in the name.

Lmao

Slightly cheaper at Amazon...

Slightly cheaper at Amazon...

Sorry yeah, that's what I meant.. Forgot there's two different types.

Doesn't exist

(You're thinking of the Surface PRO line...)

Nice price, although in practice I would recommend 4gb Ram upwards for solid business use

Anyone know where the cheapest place to get the Surface 3 - 256GB SSD - 8GB Ram version?

THIS blows any argument you have out of the water.

I do at least own a Surface...whereas you clearly don't, and have probably never used one either.

Also, I did mention earlier in the thread that it is better to seek out a 128GB/4GB one on Gumtree.



Quit suggesting that the Linx is a similar product. It just IS NOT! FAR worse screen, no pen support, poor speakers, crap keyboard, heavier, no backlit keyboard...

As long as people don't hit the 2GB RAM buffer, this Surface will absolutely blitz that weedy Z3735F processor.

More to the point, how on earth can you say this processor is useless for all but the lightest of tasks?!! WATCH THE FOLLOWING VIDEO (I already linked to it earlier)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=jsknvi3POMk

I'm not saying that all surfaces are crap, that would be indecent of me considering I haven't researched the surface pro 4 specs, but back to the topic of this thread. 2gb with this particular processor is absolutely useless for anything other than travelling light and light tasks such as browsing web and sending email, so why would you want to spend a ridiculous amount of money when you can buy a similar alternative product for £60 quid. Period.

Why would you write from a higher spec perspective? This thread is specifically regarding the 2gb version

Enterprise normally run one or two versions behind due to security. So most businesses will run 7 or 8 at the moment.

The surface is a great device and is much more than an email machine in my opinion. I do all of my work on a Surface 4 Pro, and have found it to be the most versatile computer I have ever owned.

That's an utterly irrelevant question.

The relevant question is 'which company do you know that does NOT run Windows'. The flavour of Windows is irrelevant.

(Can't believe I'm having such a silly discussion. You lost relevance in this thread when you asked why anyone would do video editing on a Surface rather than a 32GB RAM OSX device!)

Yeah I'm aware of that, I said the same about marshmallows adoptable storage, not sure it would be a problem for programs , certainly wouldn't use it for app data though.


I was talking about devices that run Android and iOS, how many tablets run OSX?

Which company that you know installs Windows 10 in their office?

If you're looking for the best tablet experience, you are still better off with an iPad 2 (more apps to choose from, better use of apps, touch screen use is better on a tablet). The surface 3 in tablet mode is good, but not as good as the iPad.

What's great about this is that you also have a full Windows experience, albeit a slower one or a not so powerful version. So it's capable of being a laptop but not a great one.

And that's the dilemma. With the surface 3 you have something which could be a tablet (but not a great one) but it can also be a laptop (but not a great laptop).

Otherwise, love the size and weight of the machine. So close to perfection.

The world of business says no

I had my suspicions....but yes, it is confirmed - you are clueless.

You have clearly never used a Surface 3, or seen how well they perform (I am writing from the 128GB/4GB perspective).

Why would anyone video render on a 2gb ram tablet like device running Windows, if you are a pro you would use OSX with around 16-32GB ram. These surface tablets are OK for travelling and writing the odd email here and there.

Windows is for Consumers, OSX is for productivity

Definitely not advisable though. Frequent read/writes to micro SD cards is a sure fire way to kill them,

Then again, 64GB of storage is still 4x bigger than the standard space on an iPad. So it's not as if there is a shortage of space :smiley:. I think the 4GB of RAM is the more important thing. It's a shame they didn't do a 64GB/4GB option - because most people will never use 128GB of storage....but almost everyone will benefit from more RAM

It has an sdcard slot, you can mount removable storage to any directory in windows if you need to use it for system use, programs etc.

Never tried it on this device but it shouldn't be any different.

So much wrong with this I can't be bothered to respond.

you realise Youtube App is made my google regardless of platform right? so any rites or issue should be addressed to them.I have not came across the issue you are saying but what I know is I've seen actual broken version of Youtube app on various android based systems (inluciding Fire OS) which basically crash every now and then,so when I compare Youtube App on iOS to those broken version,I know it's polished and reliable..

I have 100GB free out of 115GB of usable space on my Surface. So you would have 55GB or so free on a 64GB variant.

(Personally, I'd recommend buying on Gumtree. Surface's don't need original sales receipts for warranty - you just give the serial number. So it's just a matter of haggling and buying :smiley:. I got a pristine W8.1 Pro 128GB/4GB variant with unused keyboard and pen for £200)

Bought one of these for my wife at Christmas because she felt that she couldn't do all the things she wanted on her ipad air 2. She loves it and uses it daily. She misses her pad for the mobile stuff but the fact she can upgrade the storage and do everything she wants has made her very happy

Interesting ... I hadn't realised the Surface 3 was such an improvement over the Surface 2. Surface 2 runs Windows RT which didn't run desktop software and is now defunct I think. So this Surface 3 looks a decent device, though 64Gb internal storage is a bit tight given that Windows takes a bite out of that

For all those people comparing iPad's or Linx tablets...have a chew on the following video;

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsknvi3POMk

This is what makes the Surface 3 really quite exceptional. All of that performance and capability, in a device that weighs under 900grams with the keyboard....and which charges via micro USB.

(I wouldn't be without my S3 128GB/4GB. It does everything I need, with no stutter or lag. Even video editing)

You dont know much about computers, do you?

Got to agree with others, Android and iOS are consumer devices where windows are both productivity and consumer, if you want decent apps go iOS or Android not windows, for windows think desktop software not apps.


Total rubbish with the new generation of atoms, I replaced my server with a device running a Z3735F and its not in the least bit slow, even with everything I have running in the background which is loads of stuff, the OS still runs fast and that's with only 2GB of RAM.

I'm absolutely 100% regarding Youtube.There is no back function in Youtube on IOS, so once you watch a video and want to go back to the list below the main video you can't. No one has an answer because the software is flawed and I've tested it and given it to other IOS users to test. It's definitely missing that functionality.

you are completely wrong about Youtube on iOS.there is absolutely no problems with youtube app on iOS.millions of people are using it heavily everyday.there must be some other problem there.
I use Youtube heavily,and I own multiple devices,iOS,Mac,Android,Windows and the iOS experience is flawless.
as for the iPAd Air 2 it is still one of the most powerful tablets,super speedy and powerful.

I would seriously recommend against this unless you are absolutely certain that you want a Windows tablet. There are so many better value tablets at, above, and below that price range.

I don't think an extra 2 tabs is going to make a difference...

Not when you have 10 tabs open at the same time like me

Interesting because chrome has really low memory usage, if not the lowest currently...

http://imgur.com/TjTelzT

134 pounds for the keyboard. **** off ms.

Currys are doing 10% cash back on all laptops on Quidco and TCB if you reserve and collect. It's also £348.99 there so if you aren't bothered about their returns it is another option.

YouTube was 'made' by three former PayPal employees actually, and was then later purchased by the same company that 'made' Android

Disagree, had an iPad Air 2, its now my wifes and I use the Surface 3. I find it amusing when he comes to me and asks to use the Surface as the website she wants to use wont work on the iPad. Ok that is rare but to me the Surface is superior in every way.

Afraid it was, currys were running a promotion just a few weeks ago with an extra £15 off the £349 reduced price

NEEDING iTunes to manage iOS devices does suck. Surface really is a tablet that can replace your laptop as it basically IS a laptop (same software). Although these days a lot of people use iPad without ever plugging it into a PC. If you don't do anything productive (as they say) then I'd pick the iPad.

YouTube is made by the same company that makes Android.

As someone who owns both I will say iPad is good for surfing the Internet (especially if u want to check something quickly), mobile games, and YouTube. Surface is better for everything else (including movies and music, and everything productive). If u have a home network or even a NAS device Surface will connect and communicate with it far better than iPad or any Apple device will/can.

Is this as good as a iPad Air 2?

I find that a mouse-and-keyboard is essential for any real productivity. Sure, iOS apps are touch optimised, but I don't think it's very easy to format a Word document using touch alone. An iPad can "kind of do productivity" just like a Surface can "kind of do relaxing". Ultimately, neither devices can bridge both work and play - it's a question of priorities.

Before someone jumps in and says buy a laptop, here are the positives of a Surface (for me):

- perfectly adequate performance (not sure about gaming; fine for other stuff)
- great screen (fractionally sub-Retina, but absoutely fine and very bright)
- genuinely portable
- proper USB port (for connecting a printer / SD card reader...)
- Micro SD card slot for expanding storage
- drag-and-drop content or transfer using USB stick (no hateful iTunes bloatware to sync media)
- not too heavy in the hand (think iPad 1 or 2, from the old days)
- micro USB charging - same as my phone (and other baby tablet)
- can use a Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad/mouse
- stand built in (better than folding a case and knocking your wobbly tablet off a desk)
- reasonable battery life
- pen pretty good (don't really use) and cheap (£45, half the price of Apple's Pencil)
- doesn't look stupid in portrait mode any more (3:2 ratio helps)
- £350 or £450 - really pretty reasonable prices
- no fan kicking in
- long-term, straight-away software updates (better than eternal wait for Android updates)
- full Windows desktop and file management ...
- ... or tablet mode when you just want web / email / touch apps

And (my) downsides:

- Microsoft touch cover unpleasantly expensive (~£110)
- lack of decent alternative cases / covers
- keyboard cover a faff when folded back around (but easily detached)
- heavier than an iPad for browsing on your lap
- 3:2 portrait mode still not quite as comfortable as iPad's 4:3 ratio
- battery life not-quite-all-day
- lack of touch-friendly media apps (Spotify, Amazon Prime Video...)
- possibly replacement soon? (came out a year ago)
- maybe too close to an ultraportable laptop, which might have better keyboard / trackpad / battery life

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. I think the Surface 3 is a great device, and I have no doubt that it is perfectly adequate for people who don't want to do intensive stuff like Photoshop or gaming.

I hope this helped someone.

Linx tablets often break though and nigh on impossible to get parts for.

The processors are worlds apart in terms of CPU power. The Surface has a much nicer full HD screen. The Surface has a magnesium case, not an easy to break plastic case. They are world apart. I have used both, the linx is annoyingly slow and the screen does not look anywhere near as nice

This runs a full operating system which is Windows. iPad Air 2 only runs IOS which is not a full operating system the Apple equivalent being OSX, I have an iPad Air and I'm selling it due to the software letting it down, yes that might sound crazy but standard official apps such as Youtube just do not work anywhere near as well as on Android, which again is crazy to say as Android is generally crap. Youtube on IOS is crippled and that's one main reason I'm getting rid as i use Youtube a lot.

The only letdown of the Atom is the lack of decent storage controller.

The emmc drive in these is slow and is the only element making it feel sluggish.

Great devices and in some ways better then the pro version as they are better tablets due to battery life and size.

USB charging this takes an age unfortunately.

What do you mean by productive? I use word on my iPad and that works well with a Bluetooth keyboard. Beyond that, Internet browsing and watching tv/films is all I do - I guess like 90% of people who have them. You also mention needing iTunes. Why is that bad? I have a iTunes account to buy apps but aside from that I've never needed to use iTunes. Is there not an equivalent for windows based apps?

I've added to details

this is the crappy spec'd one

I've had the Surface Pro 3 before and it looked fantastic, excellent screen etc but I find that they can be a bit awkward for long sessions, especially when you have to put them on your lap. Went back to MacBook Air in the end.
This is capable of a lot more than an iPad but as someone else mentioned, the lack of some great apps can make the iPad more productive in certain situations. Very hard to pick between the 2 as neither of them are perfect for all situations.

been looking at surface pros for the last week, i need one capable for light PS tasks, unfortunately this wont quite cut it, i think £349 is an ok price though if you know what this is capable of doing and not doing

must add, this spec model is also the same price in very, for somebody wanting to purchase and take advantage of a new customer sign up offer via credit payment option (pay it off in full once its been delivered if you wish) then you could get yourself an even better price, but not as long a warranty from JL

They both have the same amount of Ram, both mobile processors, both similar size screen, both run Windows 10, what's not similar?

Please do some research before trolling forums, Linx are a product of Exertis UK Ltd https://companycheck.co.uk/company/01511931/EXERTIS-UK-LTD/summary . Looks like a very healthy company to me. Secondly, look on the back of the surface pro and many other devices such as Apple iPhone and tell me where the item was manufactured, no doubt China, reason: cheaper labour and parts. Please think before you post

Unless you know what you are talking about, in which case the Surface 3 is perfect for 'productivity'
I have the 2gb Surface 3 and an iPad Pro 9.7. Both are excellent for what they were designed for but the Surface 3 hammers the iPad Pro in terms of 'Productivity' and is much better than an equivalent price laptop due to its flexibility

It's probably better to have a laptop when you actually want to do something "productive".

Hardly comparing like with like.

Sorry but this is not a deal. This spec of the Surface 3 (2gb ram and 64gd ssd) has been on offer before at this price and even cheaper at Currys and Amazon. No one lists it because it's overpriced even discounted.

​atom chip in this Surface is meant to run Windows 10. I got one and it is smooth.

​
I've had a few Atom based tablets and they run Windows very well indeed.

Nope it uses and Intel Atom chip, it sucks at running a Desktop OS, get the iPad Air 2, at least it's good at it's intended purpose.

In theory yes because Chrome should support it, but driver support will be sparse to nonexistent I reckon. Can't find much online about it though cause I considered that.

You reckon you could boot chrome os

​are u really comparing Surface to some cheap Chinese knock off?

I have both the 2 gb and 4gb, I uninstalled chrome, now I never get close to 2gb and i do intensive tasks, also instead of bluestacks and dualbooted it with remix OS, really smooth and easy. I believe £350 is too much for the surface 3, i would pay this much for the sp3.

Shame it's not the Pro :disappointed:

My dad has one, it's not better, it's much slower and lower res screen, I find it annoyingly slow. While good for the price I'd rather the Surface 3 4gb as a tablet to live with

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Erm :confused:

Why pay this much. Better alternative http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/linx-light-1010l-linx-light-1010l-10-1-tablet-2gb-16gb-intel-atom-1-83ghz-quad-core-2451454 has sd card slot too :smiley:

OP .. would help if you mentioned in your Deal somewhere that is a 10.8" Tablet, with 2GB RAM, & 64GB Internal Storage perhaps?, lol.

Great price but as someone who owns the 4gb version I'd strongly recommend getting the 4gb version. Mine is often at 60-70% RAM usage doing simple tasks. However I wouldn't be without my Surface 3, brilliant bit of kit. You can download Bluestacks and run android apps too so your not stuck with just the MS store.

How does the speed of this compare to an iPad Air
1/2 ?