Is there a good phone tech site to follow that tells you the newest announcements?
I know moto g4 is still classed as a budget decide but it's going to be £170 right? What price is the limit for a budget phone? I mean I guess at the flagship devices continue to increase their price anything cheap in comparison is considered budget so it's only natural prices will rise. Pity lol

Not bad at all. Pretty much the standard specs of a Chinese phone but at a similar price and sold by Amazon, heat :smiley:

Sensible 5 inch size, great battery, dual sim, sim free, slim & nice casing

Looks great!

Only downside Android 5.1

And yes Moto G 4th gen coming soon at £169ish - 5.5inch

Tech radar bit here

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/lenovo-k5-brings-impressive-smartphone-specs-for-just-129-1321499

Not bad at all. Pretty much the standard specs of a Chinese phone but at a similar price and sold by Amazon, heat :smiley:

I don't know much about specs really but looks nice for the money. Definitely nice to see it available direct from amazon
Only thing missing appears to be fingerprint scanner, and other 'Chinese' seem to have 3GB+ram and the ability to increase storage to more than this (although 16Gb+32Gb should be plenty for most)

ok, sorry couldn't see it in the specs anywhere?

Sorry, deleted my comment i was looking at the wrong spec sheet (K5 Note) rather than this (Vibe K5 Plus)

a bit confused about this -

which of these K5, is this posed by the OP -

Lenovo K5 Note,
Lenovo Vite K5,
Lenovo Vibe K5 Plus

:neutral_face:

wow if so, then it is indeed hot at £129.99

especially with the Amazon price guarantee

are you sure as it doesnt say so on the Amazon's item page :man:

Im 99% sure as the Amazon specs match up correctly to the gsmarena ones

441ppi

I'm guessing this is Lenovo first uk sold phone they need to price accordingly

The Moto brand name allows them to inflate the price each year... Moto G 4th Gen will be around £170 so an extra 50 quid... Although 5.5inch which puts me off

okay thanks :smiley:

liked the fact that it has -

- microsd (dedicated slot)
- 1080 x 1920 pixels
- removal battery

but not clear if it has NFC though?

Nice solid fone

Scan and ebuyer pages seem to suggest it's HD Ready rather than Full HD. Searched using the model number (PA2M0095GB) from the Amazon page.

Very tempted to pre-order

So there's 2 the K5 and the K5 Note ??

​Moto G4 & G4 plus to be released in the UK next month.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/new-motorola-moto-g4-plus-2016-release-date-price-specs-leak-images-video-17-may-benchmarks-3601187/

Good to know, thanks.

apart from screen res how is this better than the p8 lite?

Not sure if the user reviews are to be believed (given how new the phone is)...but they aren't v,promising;

http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_vibe_k5_plus-reviews-7947.php

Also, what is with the 32GB SD card limitation!?

It just means it will not format/licence proprietary exFAT from Microsoft, you can still format a 128GB Capacity card FAT32 (well that's what you do with a 3G Moto G 2014 5'', also states upto 32GB, but 128GB cards work)

Odd that is only has Android 5.1, because the Moto G 2014 5'' has had Android 6.0 Marshmellow for 3 months now. I think they are just covering themselves, but I wouldn't pre-order until that was certain. Good phone if it gets 6.0. Motorola haven't really given previous Moto G 2014 Users much of an upgrade path, if you rely on Dual Sim, upto now.

Battery Capacity is 2750mAh, for people trying to find out.

One of the users on GSM arena state that their 64GB card doesn't work in the phone (whereas an 8GB card does).
May well be due to it being formatted incorrectly....but then again, it may not.
Too many unanswered questions about this phone. Better to sit and wait I reckon

great specs for a brand new phone, have had a lenovo tablet on a budget but has impressed me! I might sell my LG G3 for this

This or the Vodafone Ultra thingy from a couple of days ago (£99).

Its because the card is pre-formated exfat for sizes 64GB and above, if you format the card using to FAT32, it will work.
(NB.'Formatting' a SDCard will erase anything thats on there, so don't do this with a card you are using)
https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/ should restore it to the standard SDCard format.
My VW car won't recognise exFAT SDCards, but it recognise FAT32 fine if used, on larger card sizes 64GB+. Trouble is FAT32 is not as reliable on larger SDCards, hence why exFAT is used.

Actually, this rings a bell (I did the same thing to make a 64GB card work on a Sandisk Sansa MP3 player).

Still, it's a strange limitation for a new phone (even if a workaround is possible)

So where is the K5 Note on Amazon?

​Moto G4 & G4 plus to be released in the UK next month.http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/new-motorola-moto-g4-plus-2016-release-date-price-specs-leak-images-video-17-may-benchmarks-3601187/[/quote]

thanks for the link
oh am going to wait on the moto g 4th gen no point even looking at phones now i know thats coming got £150 saved so i will have enough when time comes

I can take it big boy.

Pity it is using the sd616 if it had the sd650 I be all over it.

Reheating the same joke from the other thread? Come on JB...you're better than that

Busted! I'm no LOUGHBORO GUY it's true :man:

Just been reading about the Moto G Play whichs seems to be a Moto E replacement .... scaled down specs but 2gb ram and 5 inch screen and 2800mah battery....

http://www.cnet.com/products/motorola-moto-g-play/

May just be for the US but its unclear at the moment

Does this support UK 4g on o2 and is it dual sim active?

Argos do this phone saw it in the sale leaflet the other day just a heads up folks

http://www.ebuyer.com/748149-lenovo-k5-dual-micro-sim-16gb-silver-white-pa2m0095gb

This is the same one listed on ebuyer and scan, both say 720 screen and 415 processor which is the Vibe K5, not the Plus version..
Also on the expansys Italy website, as well as Amazon Spain, model number PA2M0093FR
http://www.expansys.it/lenovo-k5-16gb-dual-sim-silver-290304/
https://www.amazon.es/Lenovo-Vibe-K5-Smartphone-Octa-Core/dp/B01EJ581KC

So much confusion over the model I can't add heat. I'd reckon it's this http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_vibe_k5-7946.php model - Snapdragon 4 series, 720 screen. With the upcoming Moto G 4th gen on it's way, I'd probably hold fire on this.

xiaomi redmi 3 pro with SD 616 and 4100mah battery is better?

It's broadly the same spec as the K3.
Even though it's is priced well, in comparison to it's previous offerings it isn't as much as a bargain as the K3 release.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Original-Xiaomi-Redmi-3-4100mAh-Battery-Metal-Body-Mobile-Phone-Snapdragon-616-Octa-Core-5-0/311331_32601809266.html
or the Meizu M3, looks like an iphone 5c, so perhaps more for a younger user, lacks the fingerprint scanner of the Redmi 3.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Original-Meizu-M3-Mini-4G-LTE-Cell-Phone-Android-5-1-MT6750-Octa-Core-5-0/311331_32659346800.html

According to Tech Radar "The Lenovo K5 seems to be a rebadged version of the Vibe K5 Plus".
Also the Amazon page states the phone is "Full HD", so if it turns out to be lower than that you'd have good grounds to return it.

I think it's worth the pun for the price imho.

My comment was based on the spec from ebuyer and scan and also on the spec/price of the phones available in Europe, all are the basic K5 with 415 processor and 720 screen.
Amazon.es says 'Pantalla táctil de 5 pulgadas 720x1280 con tecnología HD/WXGA' which translates to '5-inch touch screen with 720x1280 HD / WXGA technology.'

It depends, if you get slapped with the import tax then the price increase nullifies any benefits of getting it...

This
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/vodafone-smart-ultra-6-black-back-99-99-amazon-2447929
is a better deal imo.

It's £115 now though. Still good price but not £99

So it is lol, although the price of the SU6 keeps yo yo'ing, i suspect it will go back to £99 if not lower quite soon.

Bloody hell. And it has the feking NFC as well. Regret I bought Honor 7 already. Damn HOT

Tbh it'll probably hit £79 soon... Maybe... Especially if there is a SU7 around July-August

Hope so. Have there been any reports of any official budget phone releases this year? Except moto g4

Not yet but this is the season! June-July-August... I'm sure you'll see them on here over the next few weeks-months

Did some research...nav buttons don't have backlights...deal breaker for me!

Is there a good phone tech site to follow that tells you the newest announcements?
I know moto g4 is still classed as a budget decide but it's going to be £170 right? What price is the limit for a budget phone? I mean I guess at the flagship devices continue to increase their price anything cheap in comparison is considered budget so it's only natural prices will rise. Pity lol

Yeah Moto G4 is gonna be £169 sim free - There will no doubt be some discounts depending where you buy it - Carphone Warehouse may have it cheaper
In my eyes Budget phones should around £100 really - Certainly below £200 but I dont consider £170 cheap!

This is interesting specs - http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p9_lite-7983.php

Tech Radar is good - and Engadget

http://www.techradar.com/phones

http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2016/05/12/huawei-p9-lite-to-go-on-sale-across-uk-at-end-of-may/
£239!? :O :disappointed:

defo not better than this Lenovo k5 :confused:

Ah jeez I went for the p8lite CPW deal for my sister and she's using for a couple days. Can I return it and get one of these?

It is for me, i wouldn't touch any phone with screen smaller than 5.5"!

Descripton from amazon

Blazing fast octa-core processor
Dolby Atmos speakers
5 inch HD display
13 MP camera
5 MP front-facing camera
Battery 2750 mAh
Android 5.1
Dual micro SIM support

Smart Ultra 6...

Will this get marshmallow?

Amazon know it lacks info but have decided to do nothing about..... still recon its the 415 720 version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrkR69jBTho

Quick review here. Speakers are certainly loud, I'd be putting Nova Laucher on , removable 2750 battery and dual sim will keep some happy, nice aluminium casing.... full specs still to be revealed... but is qualcomm octa-core which seems good enough.... hd only but thats better for battery

Moto G4 video here too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxM-WR4CUzI

Very nice ... extra £40 but possibly worth it, 3000mah battery, Android 6.0.1 ,2gb ram , snapdragon 617

Is it full Hd version for sure?

Don't think so - just HD
I wouldnt buy just yet if you want Full HD - On the upside the screen still looks good

Blazing fast octa-core processor
Dolby Atmos speakers
5 inch HD display
13 MP camera
5 MP front-facing camera
Battery 2750 mAh
Android 5.1
Dual micro SIM support

With its 5 inch wide-view display, the Lenovo K5 brings movies and games to life in stunning HD. Kick back with the latest blockbuster or take your gaming to the next level and enjoy outstanding clarity, pixel after pixel.

I would get it if it is full hd straight away :disappointed:

sound like you ave big hands too :smile:

I was looking at getting this but I've opted for the bq m5 posted on here this evening. Granted its an extra 25 quid but the 1gb extra ram and slightly bigger battery swayed my decision.

Not really, i currently own a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, which measures 151.2 x 79.2 x 8.3 mm with a screen size of 5.7" and a screen to body ratio of 74.8% which i'm quite comfortable with.
Choosing a larger screen doesn't necessarily mean having a much larger phone, which is why screen to body ratio matters a lot to me, i view a lot of content on my phone and i wouldn't sacrifice viewing pleasure for minimal reductions in body size.:wink:

Too many people focus on screen size only when screen to body ratio is way more important as you pointed out

Why? Unless you cannot get to grips with the G3's size? Do not be fooled by octo-core when most apps do not even utilise the extra cores.....quad core at 2.5ghz on the G3 with a far better screen, dual flash, NFC and wireless charging against this.....the G3 maybe two years old now but still holds its own against most budget to mid-range phones to this day.

same price at Argos

Am I right in thinking this is a slightly better version of a Samsung Galaxy S4?

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Lenovo-Vibe-K5-Plus,Samsung-Galaxy-S4/phones/9976,7597

looks quite impressive for the money

any confirmation which model this is?

On the ebuyer and scan websites says 720 screen, on argos there is an answer saying its 1080 screen, 616 processor. Its on the Lenovo website, but again no info.
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/smart-devices/lenovo/phones/lenovo-k5/

Here, again shows 720 screen, 415 processor. Reliable company.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2016/05/17/lenovo-k5-coming-soon/

https://www.clove.co.uk/lenovo-vibe-k5

I can confirm that the UK K5 is the normal Vibe K5, not K5 Plus.

The screen is 720p, 2GB RAM, and the SOC is an Octa-Core Snapdragon 415 (specs are actually slightly lower than those quoted at GSMArena - Octa core: 4x 1Ghz A53, 4X 1.4Ghz A53, Adreno 405).

Would there be much difference in general usage between the 415 and 615-617 processors... 2gb ram with an octacore processor still sounds pretty good

None in stock today at Amazon

If anyone gets a hands on go with one please leave a quick review

I would be very surprised if you could tell the difference as the SOCs are almost identical. The main difference being the higher speed quad set on the SD415 is 300Mhz slower (1.2Ghz > 1.4Ghz) than the same quad set on the SD615 (1.5Ghz > 1.7Ghz). The GPU is also the same Adreno 405.

I have the p8lite for my sister and find the 720p screen rather dull. Anyone know if this is better despite being 720p?

I'm not 100% sure, but I would guess that it will be significantly better than the P8 Lite, based on other similar panels used by Lenovo.

The P8 Lite has probably the worst example of a 720p IPS screen, along with the Huawei Y6 which uses the same dull and lifeless panel.

Thanks for your input :-)

Can I ask what mobile you've get or one that you could 100% recommend?

I'm looking for replacement to my 1gb Moto G 2nd gen.... Want 2gb ram and 5 inch screen really. 5.5 probably too big for me?!?

grey/black also available now -
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lenovo-k5-smartphone-sim-free-dual-sim-129-99-grey-black-pre-order-30th-2016-amazon-2452506

To be fair this was available-searchable at Amazon last week - No stock of the white one yet - same post really mate

no it wasnt - i checked then because i wld ave preferred a black one and it wasnt on Amazon then.

besides -

this is for the white/silver one only and the other thread is for the grey/black, so different target customers
that was pre-order for 23rd May 2016 and this is pre-order for 30th May 2016

...so different

I have had the grey/black on pre order since 18 May.

Also hoping to see some reviews soon on the silver/white released on 23 May - that way can decide whether or not to cancel. :smiley:

if you say so
i cldnt find it then

if it was available then, it wld ave had the same release date as the white/silver one...or a closer date, not a release date of a week after the white/silver one is released.

In case you missed it....

I am not getting into a pi$$ing competition over this.

I pre ordered on 18th May for a release date of 30th May.

End of.

it shld ave ended a while ago

In case you missed it...all i am sayin is -

I cldnt find it then, that what i am saying and i believe i have a right to
so yes end of

This is part of the problem with HUKD, is it not for educating or making users aware of deals that they wld prefer or not prefer?

but yet you always have to have certain ppl poking their finger in other ppl's eyes just because they can.

and all this from a user who has never or cldnt be bothered to post a deal in 10yrs.

so yes - End of

I've had a black one and a white one on pre-order since 18th May, but they still haven't got stock of either in yet.
I guess they will all be on the same container.

Just received my k5 - ordered from Tesco for £129.00
First impressions:

it's a 720x1280 screen.
A snapdragon 415. 8 core 1.4ghz and 2gb ram. Not a 616, so slightly slower memory and CPU speed, but the same chips and GPU.
It comes with a protective plastic case, a screen protector, a 1.5a charger, and headphones. Which seems good for a budget phone.
Dual Sim and a seperate micro SD slot
Updated immediately to android version 5.1.1.
Menu and back buttons the other way around to what i'm used to - back button on right, left button works as task switcher if held down, or menu button from a tap.
4g on giffgaff works
Feels a bit slow, but it is currently synchronizing all my old apps - Should speed up with use.

It's a different Android to my old Moto G 8gb. Has some interesting looking settings for controlling app permissions, background app use, route 66 navigation app, UC browser, FM radio...

Impressive sound quality for a phone. Camera seems fine.

Seems to be worth it... will give it a week!

Thanks for the quick review overview

Yeah give it a week and let us know what you think! It will be slow whilst doing all the app updates etc


Cheers

I remember when I first got a smart phone and was completely amazed by it - the quality of the screen, speed, everything all impressed me. However, now, these things all just seem routine and normal.

With this phone, absolutely nothing stands out. This doesn't mean it is bad, not at all. It is just a completely useable, normal, acceptable, and straightforward phone - exactly what you would expect, and unremarkable for it. It's just anonymous and does the job. add your own car analogy here! But compared to an old Moto G, it doesn't really feel like a great leap forward in speed or functionality. So exactly what you should expect for the price.

Only one annoyance so far, and that is that the home / back / menu buttons are not back-lit, but are printed on, given a slight mirror finish. This makes them useless at night. I'll get used to them, but currently I just stab in the rough area, and it seems to get the right button most of the rime.

Battery life seems adequate to get through a whole day, as long as I leave the screen time out to 15 seconds, and brightness lower than max - auto brightness is very bright, and seems to chew through the battery life at a great pace.

You can easily switch to the standard android launcher - long press on the display, hit preferences, and there's an option to change in there. Most of the reviews say you are stuck with the Lenovo one, which has no app drawer - this is incorrect, the standard android is there and only takes a couple of clicks to get it running.

Camera is OK. it's a phone not an SLR. Focusing could be quicker.

It offers some features i've not seen for a while - auto on/off, replaceable battery, and a micro SD card, and a notification light. All good things that will give a good life to the phone. it's a good value phone for people who want something to last a while. It has a solid feel, a plastic case is included, and a screen protector.

AnTuTu benchmark: 30,858. (so in theory over 50% better than a moto g first gen, about the same as a galaxy s5).
CPU-Z reports it as a snapdragon 615, the box says a 415. It's 8 cores, 4 at max 1.36ghz, 4 at max 1ghz.

Another correction to the specs in the first post - it does not have infrared, and is android 5.1.1.

It was very good value from tesco using the clubcard double up offer available at the moment.

Has anyone else got one yet?

£130 sounds like a lot of money for an Antutu score of 30,000.

Can't speak for the quality of the phone that I have on order, but the Ulefone Paris sounds like a much nicer phone all around, (apart from slow charging) and was only £56 delivered.
Scored 36,000 on Antutu too...

Maybe there's some hidden benefit of buying this Lenovo phone - but I am struggling to see it.

The K5 doesn't seem particularly fast at charging.

The main advantage is you can buy it from Tesco, or amazon, return it easily, have a "branded" phone. It also includes a case and screen protector.. which might be an extra cost if that matters to you. So no worries about import taxes, it is fully set up in English, has google apps by default and things you'd expect. I agree that some other phones can be a bargain, but sometimes it isn't a straightforward easy experience. I don't know about the phone you've ordered - hopefully it is a good one!

I'd like to say i'd have more confidence that a Lenovo phone has less chance of spyware than a cheaper Chinese brand, but they don't have a great history to back this up!

I might return it and replace with the moto G 4. That appears worth the extra £30 for full HD, a faster running chip.

Import phones will always be cheaper... whether they are still reliable after 6-12months is another matter. Holding charge etc. Seems battery life is the main drawback.

Yeah I must admit that the Moto G4 does seem very tempting.... You'll be able to get it for £149 in a few months I'm sure
It may even be £10-12 on a 24 month contract with Tesco or CPW

The phone is coming from the EU warehouse - so no import charges. The Ulefone comes with stock Android (soon to be getting Android 6.0), and Google Apps installed by default. No adware (apparently).
Also comes with 2 screen protectors and a free cover that also acts as a clock or media player when closed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prHUkRZnYjM

I just can't see the benefits or the value of the Lenovo. They aren't a top tier phone maker (yet) even if they are a top tier computer maker, and don't seem to have a good track record of providing software updates.

Thanks for the update Afro. Sounds like it's an alright deal for the money, but if it was the better cpu and FHD screen then would of offered more of a wow factor, similar to when the 1st Moto G came out. As it stands, was thinking of getting one of these to replace my son's original Moto G, but might wait off for now.

Bit of a pain really as he doesn't want anything bigger than 4.5 to 5" screen, which counts the Vodafone Smart Ultra 6 out, I said I could stretch to an iPhone 5s 32gb refurb with 12 months warranty but doesn't want Apple, so struggling to find a branded phone for £150 or less that would be a significant step up from the Moto G. Will keep looking I guess :disappointed:

Look at the feedback on the other threads about the Ulefone Paris. It may not be 'branded' (Lenovo are pretty tarnished, and hardly a big brand in phones) - but it does have v.good manufacturer support. From my limited experience, it seems like a top notch phone - and for only £56.

(Beats this Lenovo by 6,000 points on Antutu)

Thats my issue - Nothing out there that is small and light (for use with Strava for running), well known, known to be updated, with a modern chipset... all 5 inch and up now! Only option appears to be the Iphone SE, and I break phones too quickly to buy one of those... so may send this back and stick with the old moto G first gen

How is the screen on this phone? Is it clear and sharp?

I have the p8lite and find the screen dull and blurry

is it just me that has issues with screen viewing angles outdoor in day/sunlight? find it pretty poor

Just testing the phone, watching the demo movie the volume is really loud and sounds great. Normal voice calls all good, but noticed using Whatsapp to send voice msg the volume is fairly low. Tried with a few friends all on different handsets/networks all saying the same thing, the voice message volume is fairy quite/low.
Tried holding the phone in various ways and even speaking right next to the mic, makes no difference. Can't find any settings to adjust the mic volume. Any ideas people!?

hi, were you able to resolve this?

also does it have NFC?

Thanks :smiley:

No NFC.

After a few reboots the sound seemed to be a bit louder.