Product Description
The Zalman T4 case has a black matte finish. The Zalman T4 has 2x fans (1x Blue, 1x black), there is room for an additional 2 x 120mm fans on the side. On top of the case there is 1x USB 3.0, 1x USB 2.0, HD audio and a microphone ports, as well as an on/off switch and a reset switch.
The H81M-S2H supports Intel socket 1150 chipset. The Gigabyte 8 Series motherboard supports the 4th Generation Intel Core processors, bringing together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer the absolute ultimate platform for your next PC build. From high current capable power delivery, performance-enhancing caching technologies, exclusive high-end audio features, advanced networking and device charging, This motherboards are in a class of their own. Gigabyte Ultra Durable, with a range of features and component choices that provide record-breaking performance, cool and efficient operation and extended motherboard lifespan. 4K resolution is the next technological milestone in high-definition content delivery, utilizing approximately 4,000 pixels on the horizontal axis, more than four times today's standard HD pixel density. This motherboards provides native 4K support with integrated Intel HD Graphics via HDMI.
Intel I7 4790 Haswell socket 1150 has 4 cores and has a clock speed of 3.60GHz which has an automatic turbo feature that allows the CPU to run up to 4.00GHz when required. The new Haswell processors have up to 10% more performance then the previous generation intel processors giving great value for money and the exceptional performance you would expect from a Intel Processor.
Our high performance memory runs at 1600MHz and is ideal for all custom gaming pcs, office and home users. The 1600MHz memory also improves multitasking compared to lower speed memory modules giving better value for money from your custom pc.
Our solid state drive improves the speed of loading applications and your operating system. Providing up to 10x more performance loading applications than using a standard hard disk drive it is a must have component for any custom pc. The solid state drive also has no moving parts so therefore, it is more likely to keep your data safe in and out of operation.
Our 24x DVD Writer offers a powerful over-speed performance that enables you to burn data at high speeds, the drive can burn 4.7GB onto a disk within 5 minutes.
The corsair CX600 PSU is designed and built by Corsair, It is 80 PLUS Bronze certified efficiency and clever fan design allow for little or no detectable fan noise during regular operation. efficient with a 120mm fan to make this unit perfect for gaming as it runs cool and quiet even during the most intensive of tasks. The cables on this PSU are long for great cable management and have a sleek black braided finish for a professional look.
Product Specifcation
CASE BUILT IN Zalman T4 Gaming Case
MOTHERBOARD Gigabyte H81M-S2H
MOTHERBOARD EXPANSION SLOTS 1x PCI Express x16, 2x PCI Express x1
CPU TYPE Intel I7 4th Generation Haswell
CPU MODEL Intel Core I7 4790 3.6ghz 8mb Cache 4th Gen Haswell
CPU SOCKET Intel 1150
CPU CLOCK SPEED 3.6 Ghz
CPU MAX TURBO CLOCK SPEED 4.0 Ghz
CPU COOLER Standard Intel Cooler
MEMORY 8GB DDR3 1600mhz Performance Ram
HARD DRIVE SIZE 120gb Kingston V300 Solid State Drive
OPTICAL DRIVE Samsung 24x Sata DVD Writer
GRAPHICS CARD Onboard Graphics
PSU SIZE Corsair CX600 80 Plus Bronze Certified 600w Power Supply
OPERATING SYSTEM No Operating System
FRONT / TOP CASE PORTS 1x USB 2.0, 1x USB 3.0, 1x Headphone Jack, 1x Microphone Jack
MOTHERBOARD REAR PANEL 1x PS/2 mouse port, 1x PS/2 Keyboard port, 1x D-Sub port, 1x HDMI port, 2x USB 3.0/2.0 ports, 2x USB 2.0/1.1 ports, 1x RJ-45 port, 3x audio jacks
MOTHERBOARD FEATURES Support for Q-Flash, Support for Xpress Install, EasyTune, EZ Setup, USB Blocker, Smart TimeLock, Smart Recovery 2
PC SPECIAL FEATURES 2x Cooling Fans Included, Additional Case Cooling Optional, Fully Upgradeable, Overclocking Potential, Water Cooling Support
WARRANTY 1 Year Collect and Return Warranty ( 1 Year Collect, 1 Year Parts, 1 Year Labour ) Buy with confidence knowing if anything goes wrong we are here to help.
ALSO INCLUDES Free 60 Day Trial Norton Internet Security ( OEM )
KEYBOARD AND MOUSE Not Included
WIRELESS NETWORK Not Included
MONITOR Not Included
Top comments
CameronB
24 May 1663#3
Wow what an epic gaming PC which doesn't even come with a graphics card.
N1Andy
24 May 1611#7
Cheaper than the sum of its parts, but if you were to build a PC today you wouldn't use those parts.
Voted hot as it'd make quite a powerful general use machine, but nowhere near a gaming machine.
poison3k
24 May 165#13
Ok value for the parts but its called a gaming pc and has no graphics card!!!!
It also only has 120gb ssd which is not much disc space at all, especially if you want to install games on it!!!
It also has no operating system....you will need to spend another (roughly) £300 to turn this into a gaming pc
TheButler83
24 May 164#15
rather misleading for them to call it a Gaming PC with no dedicated Graphics Card. Yes you could buy whatever spec gpu you wanted separately and install in yourself but if you were the type of person who was going to mess around doing that you are probably also the type of person who would just build the whole thing themselves and N1Andy has already summed that up nicely.
Hot as a general purpose machine but going to vote cold as I'd hate for someone to think this is a cracking deal for a Gaming PC, because it's not particularly.
All comments (86)
del00
24 May 16#1
Great find £300 ish for processor and Psu .Doubt you could build it cheaper. Voted hot but went colder..??
jamesakabob
24 May 161#2
Pricing all the components on ok prices, I make it £420 if you bought the items individually (without spending hours price hunting)
CameronB
24 May 1663#3
Wow what an epic gaming PC which doesn't even come with a graphics card.
Retro89
24 May 163#4
For anyone interested, the onboard graphics will run GTA 5 in 720p, normal settings at about 25-30fps. Obviously i'd recommend a dedicated GPU if you were to buy this.
Wezhayw
24 May 161#5
"Gaming" PC aka PC with snazzy case with LEDs.
But overall a good setup at a good deal, and would go perfect with one of the new GeForce 1080/1070 cards and a separate 1TB+ hard drive to actually store any games
MikeLondon
24 May 162#6
Stick in a new gtx 1080 (£500 - £650) and you will have an amazing gameing pc.
N1Andy
24 May 1611#7
Cheaper than the sum of its parts, but if you were to build a PC today you wouldn't use those parts.
Voted hot as it'd make quite a powerful general use machine, but nowhere near a gaming machine.
fr3dy77_sp33d to N1Andy
24 May 161#9
well summed up!
b1g1an
24 May 162#8
Exactly, and if it was for use as a gaming machine you'd see no benefit from the i7 so you could build a better i5 skylake based box for around the same cost plus your choice of gpu.
Benefit in this deal is just if you can make use of the i7 and want it prebuilt.
spannerzone
24 May 164#10
During the time you took to press hot, 10 other members could have voted cold so when you hit hot and the page refreshed it takes into account other votes. If you'd just hit F5 to refresh the screen you'd see the same effect. This seems to cause many members confusion unsurprisingly :smile:
danbrooks9237
24 May 16#11
would be good if the website/link would work!
me_lee
24 May 16#12
Heat - good value compared to buying the parts yourself but lets face it, without a decent HD and graphics card this is not a gaming rig.
poison3k
24 May 165#13
Ok value for the parts but its called a gaming pc and has no graphics card!!!!
It also only has 120gb ssd which is not much disc space at all, especially if you want to install games on it!!!
It also has no operating system....you will need to spend another (roughly) £300 to turn this into a gaming pc
thecresta
24 May 162#14
So far as I can see it's one graphics card away from a gaming machine.
Unless there is something massively wrong with the other parts?
TheButler83
24 May 164#15
rather misleading for them to call it a Gaming PC with no dedicated Graphics Card. Yes you could buy whatever spec gpu you wanted separately and install in yourself but if you were the type of person who was going to mess around doing that you are probably also the type of person who would just build the whole thing themselves and N1Andy has already summed that up nicely.
Hot as a general purpose machine but going to vote cold as I'd hate for someone to think this is a cracking deal for a Gaming PC, because it's not particularly.
commenter14
24 May 163#16
There's absolutely no need to spend that much. A £150 graphics card would turn this into an amazing gaming PC. A £550 graphics card would turn this into an enthusiast-grade VR/4k-ready machine. You make PC gaming seem very expensive.
This build is cheap when you look at its parts, but is there any need for a top-of-the-range £250 CPU? It would be impossible for anyone to tell the difference if it had a £150 i5 instead.
Agreed. At which point you might as well sell the i7 and replace it with a £100-cheaper CPU to save some money. At which point you might as well just build your own PC.
mwmattwallace
24 May 161#18
and the rest.
ICTHUS
24 May 16#19
Good starter system, Add a bigger 480GB System SSD, 4TB 2nd Drive and good GFX card.
That adds another £250 to the price.
smallsteve
24 May 16#20
I imagine that such machines are primarily aimed at teenagers, hence the garish colours and designs of the cases, whom may not have the funds to buy the full rig in one go i.e. add the graphics card down the line.
I am currently building a gaming machine for my son and this is what we decided to do, relying on the internal graphics of the Skylake 6600K in the interim period. At the moment he's only interested in playing CS:GO and so we have no problem there. Plus, with the new Nvidia cards just about to burst onto the market, it's not a bad time to hold back on a purchase of a graphics card.
The 1150 won't take DDR4, nor the upcoming Kirby Lake, but I suspect neither will be in issue for the purchasers of this machine.
theyiddo
24 May 161#21
Not exactly the greatest set of reviews for this company on Google with an average score of 2.9 out of 5.
Bighare
24 May 161#22
Their website seems to be having major problems .... just SQL errors.... is this company actually legit?
Spod
24 May 161#23
They've been around for quite a long time. I suspect they've tried to update the item because of all the sudden unexpected interest and screwed up.
HeadphoneGeeza
24 May 16#24
This would make a great portable heater.
GlanzaV
24 May 161#25
They sell a lot through Amazon - I've seen some whilst I've been looking for a new Photoshop tower.
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Just checked and their own listing of the same PC on Amazon is £440
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Crazygooner1
24 May 16#26
I've been looking to get a build for the new 1080. I'm no PC building expert but if I buy this, will the components cope with the 1080 fine?
Cheers
GrenD
24 May 161#27
You'd be better to structure a PC more around gaming (e.g. save money on the i7 and spend it on more memory/different HDD configuration)
Lots of helpful people who will put a build together for you based on requirements/budget
fo_sho_yo
24 May 161#28
Pick up a Z400 with X5650 for £150. Put in a GTX 960/ R9 for another £150. Gaming PC as good as this with an actual graphics card for £300.
vmistery
24 May 16#29
It should do as the PSU is fine. If you can afford to buy a 1080 then I'd personally spend another £300 and buy a Skylake i5 based base PC, don't forget you also will need to add an OS to this.
johnbanks509511
24 May 16#30
Any link to the Z400 with X5650 for £150? Looking for a desktop machine to drive a 4k monitor at 60Hz, with SSD and fast processor. All for 2d work. Just need screen real estate, not 3d gaming.
poison3k
24 May 16#31
Short answer: No
Long answer: Build one yourself, if you are confident you can put a card into a pc then you are pretty much able to build one yourself.
As above said, reddit build a pc is a good place to go and also PC Part Picker
Estimate your overall budget and remember that the 1080 is over £600 for launch.
Joehawkins609
24 May 16#32
those three things would be more than £250! two drives alone you've mentioned are close to £200 total
An enthusiast would get a 1366 mobo and pair it with say, a Xeon X5670 and oc it to an inch of it's life. That's probably £140ish for the cpu and mobo. 128/256 SSD, case, PSU. Probably looking at about £260ish.. inc 8 GB of ram. Wait for Polaris 10/11 to come out and nab one of those or just get a R380 for £130ish. So total would be less than £400 without keyboard/mouse and OS. You'd have a slightly outdated motherboard, but performance would be equivalent to the 4790.
Of course you would have to put it topgether yourself :smile:
I wanted an all round desktop which is future proof for next 3-4 years even though I know new graphics cards are coming out. It's from Amazon warehouse so I got 30 days to change my mind. Have I paid too much? Are there better desktops for the price? sorry my expertise on computers is not the best.
It is a lot of money, a 780ti is also a little outdated as Nvidia dont support older card with decent driver updates.=, but still fairly fast.
I'm sure you can get something much better on ebay. For that price you should really get a monitor as well.
MikeLondon
24 May 16#39
Ouch I got a skylake i7 6700K with a gtx 970 6 months ago for less than this.... on the plus side you have a huge amount of RAM -DDR 3 :disappointed: and a 500GB SSD and windows OS.
Madtrex
24 May 16#40
Could you provide a link for where I could start looking on eBay please? I wouldn't know where to start and it's a bit daunting when you type "desktop pc" in the search bar and you get a gazillion results :-) Thanks
See I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. With the first few responses I've had seems like I'm paying too much for what I am getting. To add I would also want a PC that would work with HTC Vive etc. My order hasn't been dispatched yet so still got time to cancel.
£300 for a i7-4790. 2tb hard drive 16GB ram, gtx 960 video card - low end video card, but still decent.
Madtrex, you have a large budget, its hard to know where to start. But honestly you can buy pritty much anything you want. I would recommend a base pc without a video card, then buy a card after. Would recomment what AMD will bring out in the next few weeks. the GTX 1070 wont be worth it, in my opinion
what you're looking for is something like this but without the video card, if you take away the video card, then this system would be worth less than £200! you could but this and sell the 960 for £100+ on ebay
this is a great deal.....
tahir_owen
24 May 161#44
Dunno, that deal is quite good, also a new ebayer..... so...... hmmmmm who knows if its legit
johnbanks509511
24 May 16#45
Ordered tahir_owen, thanks. Have had good results from PayPal before when trouble as a buyer so will see.
MikeLondon
24 May 16#46
I have been following VR - vive and oculus have stated that you need a GTX 970 or equivalent as a minimum. Unfortunately this will mean your PC falls outside of the minimum specs. In-fact the 970 in my opinion is not good enough you really should go for the 980ti - or wait a bit and get the gtx1070 - expected to come out soon, the 1080 which will be fantastic is out on Friday but will be at least £600. So it depends on how much you want to spend and if you can wait.
cawsmawr
24 May 16#47
Not voted either way, shame though, when I saw the price and then the processor I was in the process of getting my card ready....Then I saw no Graphic Card :smiley:
I suppose it's not too bad, but not as good as it could have been
tahir_owen
24 May 16#48
It's a stonking deal if true, was thinking about buying it myself!
tahir_owen
24 May 16#49
Madtrex, don't rush your buying decision... take your time.
VR is more GPU bound than CPU bound, meaning the video card is much more important than the cpu.
The new video cards that are coming out, such as the gtx 1070 or the AMD 480 are much better for VR than say a gtx780 ti, gtx 980 or amd 390, well that's what the slides show, plus they'll have better driver updates and more features. So that means you have to wait a month or so, till the new cards are out in retail...
The 780 ti is not the card for VR plus it uses a lot of wattage
what you want is a basic pc build
i7 cpu something like the 4820k or 4770k
8/16 gigs ram
SSD (120/240gb) and a 1 or 2tb hard drive (I think a 240gb SSD anda 1TB hard drive is a good combo
450-500watt power supply, less maybe fine to depending on your video card Somewhere between £300-£400
then add a graphics card afterwards
unfortunately you have to put in the hours and do some research.....
HTC vive is going to take a lot of effort to understand, it has so many possibilities and no doubt you;re going to have some issues
PS: ebay auctions are better than but-it-now, you get much better deals....
peaceboi
24 May 16#50
is this any good for vr?
DatAlbino
24 May 16#51
Dude thats another £400 if you get good ones, srsly? 480GB SSD about 100, 4tb HDD about 80-100, and a decent card like a 960? 150 minimum.
kinnth
24 May 16#52
Brilliant deal. Bare bones top pc with no medicore gfx which means you can update straight away to a beast! :man:
kinnth
24 May 16#53
No. You need to be spending triple for good vr machine. All components need to be a step up
R3D_R0B1N
24 May 16#54
How can you even label it as a "gaming pc" when it doesn't even come with a graphics card! Wait a few weeks and see what machines are coming with a gtx 1070 before you bite.
missmisiowa
24 May 16#55
and a "Standard Intel Cooler" :-)
foes4you
24 May 16#56
Do the coloured fans make it a gaming PC ?
mark6226
24 May 16#57
Don't be daft. You don't need a 1080 for top gaming quality. I play at everything at native 4K with a 970. The 970 and 980 will be able to play games at 4K for some time to come.
Wait a year at least for the 1080 and it will be much cheaper, although by that time the the 1080 will be out of date. And a tiny tiny percentage will be on the next card even though the 970 and 980 will still do the job.
Dont get sucked into the childish upgrade ritual.
mark6226
24 May 16#58
And don't forget that dd4 ram isn't any faster than ddr3. It's got lower power consumption but it won't run your games any better or faster.
thecresta
24 May 16#59
Wow, that's a lot of storage!
tahir_owen
25 May 16#60
Not quite true.... Its been shown that it does run faster. Check out didgital foundry's youtube vid, they clearly show it running faster than DDR3 and DDR3 comfortably ahead of DDR2. They showed it on Starwars Battlefront. The increase was around 10% I believe, but not all games would benefit.
tahir_owen
25 May 16#61
It's plenty good.....just add a video card and you're done....
I'm sure it has plenty of overclocking potential, so even more future proof
Some of the components are very basic/though and it has a very small hard drive. You'd need to add a 1TB Hard Disk eventually
Yes and you could pay £200 for a 380GB SSD, £150 for a 4TB HDD and £400 for a graphics card. Total £750.
Don't take everything literally, My post was for what I consider average estimates for improving the system without going over the top. Yes you can buy better components and cheaper components. "Pedantic"
tahir_owen
25 May 16#64
Now, what does a gaming computer comprise of? A fancy sci-fi type case (check), fancy lightling (check), an overclockable/powerful cpu (check), decent amount of ram (check), SSD (check). Powerful 80+ PSU (check), DVD drive for games (check), cooling fans (check)
All that is really required is you put in your own graphics card, which I think most people would understand as they wouldn't want to be choose their own card, perhaps a better cpu cooler , eventually you'll need a 1tb hard drive, but not straight away.
The only thing I would say is a negative, is that it needs faster ram, but not a disaster by any means. Most people these days will have their own copy of windows. And just add a cheap keyboard and gaming mouse.
macca211
26 May 16#65
Hi,
I was looking at the Ebay £430 pc you suggested which looks good, but is it ok to buy second hand? I'm looking to get a new pc; still want a tower and would use it for basic browsing and office work but also my other half would need it to play games such as Call of Duty. I've been told i need to get a pc with a good graphics card but I haven't really got a clue lol. Also have only ever bought pcs brand new from a shop for peace of mind, warranty etc but only have a budget of about £500 so not sure whats best to go for. Any ideas would be much appreciated.
tahir_owen
26 May 16#66
The £430 pc is from Dell (vostro), so good quality.. The video card is more than capable, in fact on the second hand market it would cost you around £170, perhaps even closer to £200, although prices aer starting to drop. It will play any game at full HD resolution, although it does use more power than most cards. but that's not a major issue as the computer will mainly be used for office stuff and occasional gaming. I think it's a decent deal.
If you live you're going to pick it up (which seems like the only option)
you can have a play around with it..
If someone I knew was after something I would recommend this.
if you really want peace of mind then go for a new pc from ebay or elsewhere, many have warantee's
not bad at all, and if you're local even better, if this person accepts pick up that is.
not sure if it coems with a keyboard and mouse though
tahir_owen
26 May 16#68
Forget the ROG that I posted above this one is much better, although it's from cash converters, it also includes a free monitor if you pick up (liverpool) otherwise extra £28 del for the monitor
in fact its a very good deal if you're looking for something like this, although you wont be able to upgrade the video card as I believe its a half height card/case
macca211
26 May 16#69
Thank you for all the info and your time and effort, much appreciated! I will look at your suggestions and let you know how I get on :-)
johnbanks509511
26 May 16#70
tahir_owen, no comms from the eBay seller, listing removed. Opened a case, meantime I don't expect it to turn up and want to order alternatives in a reasonable time. Have keyboard/mouse/monitor/Windows/SSD ordered to go with it, so now looking for barebones or case/PSU/motherboard/CPU with cooler/RAM +- graphics card. Seems that Skylake will do 4k 60p with onboard graphics if the motherboard has Displayport 1.2. I was unclear if I would have problems with GTX 7xx series instead of 9xx series to do 4k 60p, although the monitor will also do it through HDMI 2.0.
tahir_owen
26 May 16#71
Any video card should be able to do 4k at 60HZ, basically means that the screen refreshes 60 times per second.
To run games at 60 frames per second at 4k, is almost impossible. You would need probably an 980ti or Fury X and run games on medium settings, obviously you're mileage will vary
to find everything you're looking for in one package is impossible (as you already have several things already), it's looking as though you'll have to buy everything seperately TBH
Skylake has a limited selection of CPU's.... not my favourite platform. plus theres a new broadwell -e platform coming out, so I think no more skylake cpu's will come out
motherboard £50
cpu lets say around £150 or a cheaper intel pentium G4520
mem 8GB for around £25-30
case+PSU £60 psu something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RS500-ACABB1-UK-Builder-Warranty/dp/B00N4JRNY0?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref_=s9_simh_hd_bw_bT8OMh_p147_d0_i4
video card, TBH should wait until amd releases their cards. if you can't wait, best value as I believe you want VR ready machine is the 970 which you could pick up for about £180 ish.
I would wait for AMD Polaris, who will have a card around £200 which will outperform a GTX 980
the 970 isn't best the card for VR.. what you could do is just use teh onboard graphics of the CPU and when you're ready just buy a video card.
johnbanks509511
26 May 16#72
Thanks. I'm after desktop use, not games or VR. I cannot find many cheap motherboards that will do 4k 60p, nor many graphics cards short of GTX 950? If going for 4k 60p from Skylake (what else does it without a graphics card?) then I end up thinking the i5 6600k is best value, so then want a board that will do a mild overclock and end up with: AS Rock Z170 Extreme 4 £108, i5 6600k £195, DDR4 3000 16GB £66. I've spend £540 on a 43" 4k monitor, £108 on Samsung Evo 850 500 GB, so may as well do it all justice?
johnbanks509511
26 May 16#73
Mission creep, went for the i7 6700K and a massive cooler. I don't like waiting.
The Socket 1151 motherboards do support displayport, but depends in the manufacturer actually includes it. I have a DP on my system with a Intel HD 4000 graphics...... :confused:
Is it really a 43 inch monitor? not a TV? 43inch monitors are available though, would be interesting to use...
Any graphics card in the last 5 years should support displayport, radeon R370, gtx 750 ti
wait for AMD to release whatever they're going to release around the 3130-3150 mark and pick up one of those.
Seems as though the components you're using, are all towards being a hardcore gamer....
if its not for gaming Or VR then some comppnents are a bit excessive TBH.
I feel bad recommending such high quality but expensive components. The two area;s where you should spend is the monitor first of all, then the video card if you play games, if you don't, then just something basic....
do you know you can pick up cpu's which are 5 eyars old, but just as powerful as today's cpu's with a simple overclock. For example, a X5670 cpu for around £50, overclock that to around 4.6ghz, it will comfortably beat an i5 6600k at it's normal base clock.... the socket 1366 motherboard which supports this cpu, was released 8 years ago...
So you're spending £300+ on a cpu/motherboard combo, yet could get at least the same power for half that....
tahir_owen
26 May 16#75
wow ok.....:laughing:
and to think you use HDUK to save money! :wink:
anyway, its a powerful system..... should last a good 8 years
johnbanks509511
26 May 16#76
I received the Philips BDM4350UC today. It is a monitor, although I considered a TV, I'm glad I chose this. My best source presently is 1080p from a laptop but shown as 2 x 2 layout so 1:1 scaling I think the 4k setup will be very nice to work with as it is like 2 x 2 21.5" monitors. I tend to have 15000 page PDFs, Visual Studio and another IDE, IDA Pro, Excel and browser all open at the same time, but I'm a bit behind on the latest PC stuff as it is embedded stuff I work on. It is not uncommon to be left waiting for things to search, compile or process running these on a recent mobile i5 with 8GB with hybrid SSD/hard drive or an older mobile i7 with 4GB so I hope this spruces things up a bit. A 1080p screen just won't show what I need without lots of zooming/switching. The problem with 4k 60p seems to be needing Displayport 1.2 spec as my older integrated graphics with DP won't go anywhere near that resolution. It looks like half the die of an i7 is used for graphics, so I may as well see if it is any good.
tahir_owen
26 May 16#77
looks interresting for sure, although sitting closish to it, might be difficult. 4 PiP is very interesting to, only having three digital conections is a bit strange, should be 4, but not really an issue for most. 60hz is great to
Looks like the Philips might have some issues in picture quality... look out for that as soon as you can
johnbanks509511
26 May 16#79
Wow, that looks pretty grim. Thanks for the link, will look out.
Cheap_as_Chimps
27 May 16#80
This has been a very useful thread. Must resist starting a new build....
tahir_owen
27 May 161#81
Good to know, someone found it usefull... at times it seems as though I is talkin to myself :smirk:
jimunix
29 May 16#82
Very interesting. I am looking for a server with CPU grunt and memory. Don't need an OS or a monitor/graphics card. This "gaming rig" might be just th job. Thanks, heat.
Both the links are the same...or they show the same computer
it's well overpriced in my opinion. an older but capable i7... not a bad set up. Could do with being £50 cheaper
check out this one
small form factor, so you can only use a half height video card, you can buy a gtx 750ti for around £95
yes it uses an amd, but it's more than sufficient for you're needs, but be warend there is no upgrade path for this system really, it's pritty much the fastest cpu this motherboard can take
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Opening post
The Zalman T4 case has a black matte finish. The Zalman T4 has 2x fans (1x Blue, 1x black), there is room for an additional 2 x 120mm fans on the side. On top of the case there is 1x USB 3.0, 1x USB 2.0, HD audio and a microphone ports, as well as an on/off switch and a reset switch.
The H81M-S2H supports Intel socket 1150 chipset. The Gigabyte 8 Series motherboard supports the 4th Generation Intel Core processors, bringing together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer the absolute ultimate platform for your next PC build. From high current capable power delivery, performance-enhancing caching technologies, exclusive high-end audio features, advanced networking and device charging, This motherboards are in a class of their own. Gigabyte Ultra Durable, with a range of features and component choices that provide record-breaking performance, cool and efficient operation and extended motherboard lifespan. 4K resolution is the next technological milestone in high-definition content delivery, utilizing approximately 4,000 pixels on the horizontal axis, more than four times today's standard HD pixel density. This motherboards provides native 4K support with integrated Intel HD Graphics via HDMI.
Intel I7 4790 Haswell socket 1150 has 4 cores and has a clock speed of 3.60GHz which has an automatic turbo feature that allows the CPU to run up to 4.00GHz when required. The new Haswell processors have up to 10% more performance then the previous generation intel processors giving great value for money and the exceptional performance you would expect from a Intel Processor.
Our high performance memory runs at 1600MHz and is ideal for all custom gaming pcs, office and home users. The 1600MHz memory also improves multitasking compared to lower speed memory modules giving better value for money from your custom pc.
Our solid state drive improves the speed of loading applications and your operating system. Providing up to 10x more performance loading applications than using a standard hard disk drive it is a must have component for any custom pc. The solid state drive also has no moving parts so therefore, it is more likely to keep your data safe in and out of operation.
Our 24x DVD Writer offers a powerful over-speed performance that enables you to burn data at high speeds, the drive can burn 4.7GB onto a disk within 5 minutes.
The corsair CX600 PSU is designed and built by Corsair, It is 80 PLUS Bronze certified efficiency and clever fan design allow for little or no detectable fan noise during regular operation. efficient with a 120mm fan to make this unit perfect for gaming as it runs cool and quiet even during the most intensive of tasks. The cables on this PSU are long for great cable management and have a sleek black braided finish for a professional look.
Product Specifcation
CASE BUILT IN Zalman T4 Gaming Case
MOTHERBOARD Gigabyte H81M-S2H
MOTHERBOARD EXPANSION SLOTS 1x PCI Express x16, 2x PCI Express x1
CPU TYPE Intel I7 4th Generation Haswell
CPU MODEL Intel Core I7 4790 3.6ghz 8mb Cache 4th Gen Haswell
CPU SOCKET Intel 1150
CPU CLOCK SPEED 3.6 Ghz
CPU MAX TURBO CLOCK SPEED 4.0 Ghz
CPU COOLER Standard Intel Cooler
MEMORY 8GB DDR3 1600mhz Performance Ram
HARD DRIVE SIZE 120gb Kingston V300 Solid State Drive
OPTICAL DRIVE Samsung 24x Sata DVD Writer
GRAPHICS CARD Onboard Graphics
PSU SIZE Corsair CX600 80 Plus Bronze Certified 600w Power Supply
OPERATING SYSTEM No Operating System
FRONT / TOP CASE PORTS 1x USB 2.0, 1x USB 3.0, 1x Headphone Jack, 1x Microphone Jack
MOTHERBOARD REAR PANEL 1x PS/2 mouse port, 1x PS/2 Keyboard port, 1x D-Sub port, 1x HDMI port, 2x USB 3.0/2.0 ports, 2x USB 2.0/1.1 ports, 1x RJ-45 port, 3x audio jacks
MOTHERBOARD FEATURES Support for Q-Flash, Support for Xpress Install, EasyTune, EZ Setup, USB Blocker, Smart TimeLock, Smart Recovery 2
PC SPECIAL FEATURES 2x Cooling Fans Included, Additional Case Cooling Optional, Fully Upgradeable, Overclocking Potential, Water Cooling Support
WARRANTY 1 Year Collect and Return Warranty ( 1 Year Collect, 1 Year Parts, 1 Year Labour ) Buy with confidence knowing if anything goes wrong we are here to help.
ALSO INCLUDES Free 60 Day Trial Norton Internet Security ( OEM )
KEYBOARD AND MOUSE Not Included
WIRELESS NETWORK Not Included
MONITOR Not Included
Top comments
Voted hot as it'd make quite a powerful general use machine, but nowhere near a gaming machine.
It also only has 120gb ssd which is not much disc space at all, especially if you want to install games on it!!!
It also has no operating system....you will need to spend another (roughly) £300 to turn this into a gaming pc
Hot as a general purpose machine but going to vote cold as I'd hate for someone to think this is a cracking deal for a Gaming PC, because it's not particularly.
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But overall a good setup at a good deal, and would go perfect with one of the new GeForce 1080/1070 cards and a separate 1TB+ hard drive to actually store any games
Voted hot as it'd make quite a powerful general use machine, but nowhere near a gaming machine.
Benefit in this deal is just if you can make use of the i7 and want it prebuilt.
It also only has 120gb ssd which is not much disc space at all, especially if you want to install games on it!!!
It also has no operating system....you will need to spend another (roughly) £300 to turn this into a gaming pc
Unless there is something massively wrong with the other parts?
Hot as a general purpose machine but going to vote cold as I'd hate for someone to think this is a cracking deal for a Gaming PC, because it's not particularly.
This build is cheap when you look at its parts, but is there any need for a top-of-the-range £250 CPU? It would be impossible for anyone to tell the difference if it had a £150 i5 instead.
Overall I don't recommend this. http://www.pcpartpicker.co.uk is a much better way to find a PC.
That adds another £250 to the price.
I am currently building a gaming machine for my son and this is what we decided to do, relying on the internal graphics of the Skylake 6600K in the interim period. At the moment he's only interested in playing CS:GO and so we have no problem there. Plus, with the new Nvidia cards just about to burst onto the market, it's not a bad time to hold back on a purchase of a graphics card.
The 1150 won't take DDR4, nor the upcoming Kirby Lake, but I suspect neither will be in issue for the purchasers of this machine.
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Just checked and their own listing of the same PC on Amazon is £440
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Cheers
Go onto Reddit and check out https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme/
Lots of helpful people who will put a build together for you based on requirements/budget
Long answer: Build one yourself, if you are confident you can put a card into a pc then you are pretty much able to build one yourself.
As above said, reddit build a pc is a good place to go and also PC Part Picker
Estimate your overall budget and remember that the 1080 is over £600 for launch.
Of course you would have to put it topgether yourself :smile:
I wanted an all round desktop which is future proof for next 3-4 years even though I know new graphics cards are coming out. It's from Amazon warehouse so I got 30 days to change my mind. Have I paid too much? Are there better desktops for the price? sorry my expertise on computers is not the best.
http://www.freshtechsolutions.co.uk/intel-core-i5-6400-hd-gaming-pc-120gb-ssd-16gb-2133mhz-zalman-t4-computer.html
I'm sure you can get something much better on ebay. For that price you should really get a monitor as well.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-i7-4790-Quad-Core-4-00GHz-2TB-16GB-NVIDIA-GTX-960-4GB-Gaming-PC-VP-/272252500921?hash=item3f63837bb9:g:1oQAAOSwBw5XQ6Pm
£300 for a i7-4790. 2tb hard drive 16GB ram, gtx 960 video card - low end video card, but still decent.
Madtrex, you have a large budget, its hard to know where to start. But honestly you can buy pritty much anything you want. I would recommend a base pc without a video card, then buy a card after. Would recomment what AMD will bring out in the next few weeks. the GTX 1070 wont be worth it, in my opinion
what you're looking for is something like this but without the video card, if you take away the video card, then this system would be worth less than £200! you could but this and sell the 960 for £100+ on ebay
this is a great deal.....
I suppose it's not too bad, but not as good as it could have been
VR is more GPU bound than CPU bound, meaning the video card is much more important than the cpu.
The new video cards that are coming out, such as the gtx 1070 or the AMD 480 are much better for VR than say a gtx780 ti, gtx 980 or amd 390, well that's what the slides show, plus they'll have better driver updates and more features. So that means you have to wait a month or so, till the new cards are out in retail...
The 780 ti is not the card for VR plus it uses a lot of wattage
what you want is a basic pc build
i7 cpu something like the 4820k or 4770k
8/16 gigs ram
SSD (120/240gb) and a 1 or 2tb hard drive (I think a 240gb SSD anda 1TB hard drive is a good combo
450-500watt power supply, less maybe fine to depending on your video card
Somewhere between £300-£400
then add a graphics card afterwards
unfortunately you have to put in the hours and do some research.....
HTC vive is going to take a lot of effort to understand, it has so many possibilities and no doubt you;re going to have some issues
PS: ebay auctions are better than but-it-now, you get much better deals....
Wait a year at least for the 1080 and it will be much cheaper, although by that time the the 1080 will be out of date. And a tiny tiny percentage will be on the next card even though the 970 and 980 will still do the job.
Dont get sucked into the childish upgrade ritual.
I'm sure it has plenty of overclocking potential, so even more future proof
Some of the components are very basic/though and it has a very small hard drive. You'd need to add a 1TB Hard Disk eventually
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VR-Ready-gaming-PC-Intel-core-i7-4790k-Nvidia-GTX-970-/282047294785?hash=item41ab542d41:g:RB8AAOSwQaJXQ4n2
Auction- i7-4790k great CPU. Gtx 970 (VR Ready), 16GB Ram, 750 watts PSU..... Somewhere between £400-£500 we'll be looking at.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Core-i7-4770K-32GB-Ram-256GB-SSD-1TB-HDD-27-screen-win10pro-Ms-Word-Anti-virus-/291768577296?hash=item43eec32d10:g:2EQAAOSwvU5XM7dY
Core i7 4770K-32GB Ram-256GB SSD-1TB HDD-27"screen-win10pro
buyitnow £649 north london collection only
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gaming-PC-Intel-i7-Nvidia-Gtx-780-Dell-System-FINAL-PRICE-DROP-GRAB-A-BARGAIN/162056534214?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36823%26meid%3D67431527ced2496ea42a2295a1239509%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D291768577296
Gaming PC Intel i7 & Nvidia Gtx 780 Dell System, SSD+ Hard Drive Win 10, 750 watt PSU....
A great deal, but collection only from hampshire, or you could arrange you're own pick up....£430 buyitnow
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoostorm-Intel-Core-i7-Processor-16Gb-RAM-2Tb-HD-Wi-Fi-PC-Tower-/222119215089?hash=item33b7563ff1:g:m-IAAOSwSgJXONEX
Auction- Zoostorm Intel® Core™ i7 Processor, 16Gb RAM, 2Tb HD, Wi-Fi, PC Tower
Add your own video card...
Don't take everything literally, My post was for what I consider average estimates for improving the system without going over the top. Yes you can buy better components and cheaper components. "Pedantic"
All that is really required is you put in your own graphics card, which I think most people would understand as they wouldn't want to be choose their own card, perhaps a better cpu cooler , eventually you'll need a 1tb hard drive, but not straight away.
The only thing I would say is a negative, is that it needs faster ram, but not a disaster by any means. Most people these days will have their own copy of windows. And just add a cheap keyboard and gaming mouse.
I was looking at the Ebay £430 pc you suggested which looks good, but is it ok to buy second hand? I'm looking to get a new pc; still want a tower and would use it for basic browsing and office work but also my other half would need it to play games such as Call of Duty. I've been told i need to get a pc with a good graphics card but I haven't really got a clue lol. Also have only ever bought pcs brand new from a shop for peace of mind, warranty etc but only have a budget of about £500 so not sure whats best to go for. Any ideas would be much appreciated.
If you live you're going to pick it up (which seems like the only option)
you can have a play around with it..
If someone I knew was after something I would recommend this.
if you really want peace of mind then go for a new pc from ebay or elsewhere, many have warantee's
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-ROG-GR8-Core-i7-1TB-8GB-GeForce-GTX-750-Gaming-Desktop-PC-EX-DISPLAY-/272242669469?hash=item3f62ed779d:g:rYUAAOSw7W5XNt-i
I found this one, £500, 1 year warantee refurbished./ great looking case, comes with a gtx 750 ti which is worth around £75, low end card, but still quite decent, play games on medium settings at full HD resolution, plenty for COD
it's like a powerful laptop for you're living room, the cpu I believe is a Intel Core i7-4510U @ 2.00GHz, so not bad.... but not great. For basic gaming it's fine
heres a video card chart, you're lookign for a card which gets over 3000 points, it's not an accurate chart but in general usage it's fine
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-8GB-1TB-Desktop-Gaming-PC-Computer-4-2GHz-7650K-R7-Graphics-/191025096255?hash=item2c79fba63f:g:Gm8AAOSwH71XOZmG
no harm in looking for a AMD system, I found one here, now, it needs a operating system also, keyboard and mouse, you'll need to buy a graphics card to, it does have a built in video, but it wont be so great, but it will play games at 720p rather than 1080p..... but it's only £229. if you're comfortable in installing you;re own OS and buy a keyboard, mouse and video card, it;s not bad and you get 3 years warantee and free del.
here is a link to an ebay page, you can decide wether or not you want to add a operatin system or other components, although it doesn't have a selection for a video card.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/PC-Desktops-All-in-Ones/179/i.html?_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo&_udhi=500&_nkw=gaming%20pc&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=1&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
if you find something, post a link and i'll have a look at it, but give me some time as im working.
G'luck
£250+£30 del from London.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gaming-PC-i7-3770-3-4GHz-8GB-RAM-GeForce-GTX-660-2GB-HD-500GB-/231941009913?hash=item3600c2f1f9:g:l-4AAOSw~oFXMws5
i7-3770/8Gb ram, Gtx 660/500GB Hard drive/windows 7
not bad at all, and if you're local even better, if this person accepts pick up that is.
not sure if it coems with a keyboard and mouse though
it has a better cpu as well, which is a surprise
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-ROG-G20AJ-UK016S-Core-i7-12GB-1TB-Gaming-Desktop-PC-reduced-/322102059877?hash=item4afec76365:g:0kEAAOSwLmVXD~dI
in fact its a very good deal if you're looking for something like this, although you wont be able to upgrade the video card as I believe its a half height card/case
To run games at 60 frames per second at 4k, is almost impossible. You would need probably an 980ti or Fury X and run games on medium settings, obviously you're mileage will vary
1151 motherboards are quite cheap starting from £40
heres a good skylake cpu athough it's a xeon and not a i7
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ES-Intel-XEON-E3-1245-V5-3-5GHz-Quad-Core-80W-Skylake-CPU-Processor-LGA-1151-/152102649260?hash=item236a063dac:g:8MUAAOSw~oFXF~ME
to find everything you're looking for in one package is impossible (as you already have several things already), it's looking as though you'll have to buy everything seperately TBH
Skylake has a limited selection of CPU's.... not my favourite platform. plus theres a new broadwell -e platform coming out, so I think no more skylake cpu's will come out
motherboard £50
cpu lets say around £150 or a cheaper intel pentium G4520
mem 8GB for around £25-30
case+PSU £60 psu something like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RS500-ACABB1-UK-Builder-Warranty/dp/B00N4JRNY0?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref_=s9_simh_hd_bw_bT8OMh_p147_d0_i4
video card, TBH should wait until amd releases their cards. if you can't wait, best value as I believe you want VR ready machine is the 970 which you could pick up for about £180 ish.
I would wait for AMD Polaris, who will have a card around £200 which will outperform a GTX 980
the 970 isn't best the card for VR.. what you could do is just use teh onboard graphics of the CPU and when you're ready just buy a video card.
you can overclock on other boards, but you wont be able to adjust the multiplier on the cpu.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=socket+1151+motherboard&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=8RlHV9jiB-fW8ge9trKoBw#q=socket+1151+motherboard&tbs=cat:289,vw:l,p_ord:p&tbm=shop
The Socket 1151 motherboards do support displayport, but depends in the manufacturer actually includes it. I have a DP on my system with a Intel HD 4000 graphics...... :confused:
Is it really a 43 inch monitor? not a TV? 43inch monitors are available though, would be interesting to use...
Any graphics card in the last 5 years should support displayport, radeon R370, gtx 750 ti
wait for AMD to release whatever they're going to release around the 3130-3150 mark and pick up one of those.
Seems as though the components you're using, are all towards being a hardcore gamer....
if its not for gaming Or VR then some comppnents are a bit excessive TBH.
I feel bad recommending such high quality but expensive components. The two area;s where you should spend is the monitor first of all, then the video card if you play games, if you don't, then just something basic....
do you know you can pick up cpu's which are 5 eyars old, but just as powerful as today's cpu's with a simple overclock. For example, a X5670 cpu for around £50, overclock that to around 4.6ghz, it will comfortably beat an i5 6600k at it's normal base clock.... the socket 1366 motherboard which supports this cpu, was released 8 years ago...
So you're spending £300+ on a cpu/motherboard combo, yet could get at least the same power for half that....
and to think you use HDUK to save money! :wink:
anyway, its a powerful system..... should last a good 8 years
there's a forum over ot hardocp
https://hardforum.com/threads/philips-bdm4350uc-43-inch-4k-ips-pwm-free-monitor.1894807/
I'm not having much luck. With the £430 pc the guy removed the graphics card and sold it separately and the cash convertors pc was taken off Ebay. I am now considering 2 others as I need one asap and I would value your opinion if you have time please... as I said i'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to pcs Here are the links http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201559631908?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201559631908?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT I went for these as they are not too far from me, offer a warranty, refurbish and build the pcs etc.
it's well overpriced in my opinion. an older but capable i7... not a bad set up. Could do with being £50 cheaper
check out this one
small form factor, so you can only use a half height video card, you can buy a gtx 750ti for around £95
lower spec for £150 inc 90 day warantee, but still fairly fast
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-Elite-8300-SFF-i5-3rd-Gen-500GB-HD-4GB-RAM-64-BIT-WIN-10-PRO/231954007769?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36823%26meid%3D23dd65cb921543d4829e4f4b46f23811%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D201582156521
low profile video card gtx 750 ti
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-GeForce-Graphics-Express-5400GHz/dp/B00NM3BTVG/ref=sr_1_10?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1464699200&sr=1-10
£92.73
or here
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=MSI+GeForce+N750TI-2GD5TLP&_sop=15
this one aint too bad, contains everything, including opertaing system and video card
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CONSOLE-KILLER-GAMING-PC-QUAD-CORE-AMD-4Ghz-8GB-RAM-NVIDIA-GTX750Ti-OC-2GB-1TB-/291744100624?hash=item43ed4db110:g:Y5UAAOSwvhtXObJw
yes it uses an amd, but it's more than sufficient for you're needs, but be warend there is no upgrade path for this system really, it's pritty much the fastest cpu this motherboard can take
another AMD system wuith gtx 770, one of teh ebst AMD cpu's. Not sure if it includes an operating system, but you have to ask, but I think it does all in for £380 or make an offer. pick up only from DA14
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gamaing-pc-amd-fx-8350-black-edition-msi-gtx-770-12-gb-RAM-/322121803596?hash=item4afff4a74c:g:qKIAAOSwADNXPMW1
pc includes monitor, doesn't need anything extra, older video card but still capable
£359
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gaming-Pc-With-Everything-Needed/252407407491?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36823%26meid%3De6b84fcf78d84eefaa8407493d5110ee%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D162079644771
ill have another look later.
I suppose you're looking for everything included right? inc operating and video card
Send me a private message for any more questions... so many options, the auctions tend to be cheaper then buyitnow options
go up to about £315 + 25 del
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chillblast-Gaming-PC-i5-4670K-8GB-DDR3-GTX-750TI-1TB-SSHD-/262458053840?hash=item3d1bb814d0:g:B58AAOSwMHdXSXJZ