Doing it off their own back? Pull the other one.

They have been milking the system for years. EU legislation is forcing their hand.

Rubbish, I'm afraid. The European Union is not even responsible for the changes in roaming charges.

The EU was first asked to abolish roaming charges by a global body called the International Telephone Users Group (INTUG) way back in 1999. Typically, though, the EU dragged its feet, so much so that eventually INTUG approached another global body, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). The OECD involved a third global body, the International Telecommunications Union, which used the rules of a fourth, the World Trade Organisation, to ensure that by 2013 roaming charges were being abolished right across the world, the EU well down in the queue.

In or out of the EU, this would have happened anyway. The difference is that Britain being out of the European Union would mean we could join a lot of these International Groups and Committees (which we cannot do as part of the EU) and actually have a say in the way so many of our laws and regulations are being created. #Leave

That's happening in 2017.

(Though of course, if we leave the EU, then we'll be back to full price roaming. #remain :smiley: )

ROFL. Off their own back!!? Funniest thing I've read on this site..... And that's saying something.
The networks have been raking it in for the last 20 years with these unreasonable charges, and you have the nerve/ignorance/naivety to laud them for their long overdue demise? Ah, the humour.

+1 VOdafone's customer service usually is terrible :-(

Write a letter via recorded delivery to the Vodafone CEO
http://www.ceoemail.com/s.php?id=ceo-9635
ask for compensation for your postage/time. It'll take some time but they will get it sorted.
Very annoying but I did it this way and happy with the outcome.

If you are still unhappy then you can go to the ombudsman.

jrw is clueless.

They already did this before the announcement.

Vodafone is literally the WORST damn network that exists. I ignored 239852935 warnings on this site about it because they had what seemed to be a good deal. It was a MISTAKE. DO NOT USE THEM! I am stuck in a contract paying like £20/month with no advertised free spotify and no cashback on topcashback.

1 year on, is this still on?, or .....

That is not roaming isn't it ?

If you call someone from UK to EU you pay £1.5 per min. Vodafone:(

EXPIRE IT
Also it is not relevant as all of Mobile Phone networl will need to abolish EU raoming fee from tomorrow anyway.

no.

i travel to Spain a few to a month. I stopped using my Vodafone mobile in Spain last year after getting a good 3 mobile SIMO. I'll be leaving Voda as soon as I can.

Some threads are constantly updated throughout the year...

Awful network haven't been with these for years and still hear they're terrible

this post is more than a year old, why is it on the front page?

I was given this deal when I renewed my 12 month sim only contract back in February - so it's something they've been offering people for a while. Definitely Hot from me!

Their World Traveller works really well too. I used my phone in Japan last year for £5 a day. Local alternatives were similarly priced so it was easier to continue using my sim.

Also I have never had a single issue with Vodafone - and even if I did, 25 GB data for £17.50 a month isn't a bad deal :smiley:

Gotta laugh at how all the networks are acting like they are doing you a favour when the reality is they have to offer free EU roaming now after the EU legislated to make them

This is great! got my 2gb roaming when I upgraded to sim only in April! Heat added :smile:

I took out a SIM only renewal in February but have switched to a new Red tarrif using the online chat function on Thursday. Took a couple of days but got confirmations yesterday and my VEA discount was reapplied this evening

EuroTraveller (£3 a day) will remain for all existing customers until the end of their minimum term. Taking one of these plans auto-opts you into WorldTraveller (£5 a day) as well which is nice.

The data abroad is capped so you can't go over it by mistake. If you do hit your data limit, you can buy data extras. You can have up to FIVE of these stacked on your account at once, making it easy to manage your data.

I despair if some people are voting to remain solely on roaming charges. This video is worth watching... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0

As an existing customer I was told the only way to get these new plans is with a new number on the account and as my contract is until December 2017 they won't be able to change it. So £3 per day for me for my 8gb data and unlimited calls & texts.

Sometimes the UK seems to think it can do what it likes, when it likes. Not anymore, those days are long gone. I have dual citizenship so I'll be voting for the UK to exit the EU. To me it doesn't really matter what the outcome is :smiley:

UKIP have accredited this to the EU (and voted against it). If it's good its not the EU ;you say it's the OECD which doesn't have the authority to do this worldwide and hence hasn't, jrw says it's the companies which is just an outright lie. If it is the EU it's bad and UKIP vote against it as it's apparently just going to benefit MEPs.

The leave campaign needs to make their mind up and stick to one lie.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/27/europe-abolishes-mobile-phone-roaming-charges

SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL BUT I HAVE HAD SO MANY ISSUES WITH VODAFONE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS I WILL NEVER GO WITH THEM AGAIN. THEY MAKE ME SICK TO THE BONE. UNFORTUNATELY I AM CONTRACTED WITH THE SCUM FOR ANOTHER YEAR :-(

Agree, I have complained so many times on their Facebook site I have been blocked haha.

On the back of this I did the message thing . I have two numbers with then and about 6 months into my contract . I asked for free roaming , after a few times around the houses they agreed to add it to both numbers . I asked would it show up on my account , I was told yes . Two days later nothing showing , so I messaged again . This time I was told I could not have it , its for new customers only. I asked him to read the last text from two days ago . I then got an apology, but nothing else. This could have been a very expensive lie for me .... don't trust Vodafone .

I would not trust vodafone. I would not contract with them even if they gave me a free contract. There customer service is absolutely horrid.

It's rubbish I went abroad and Vodafone.ES blocked my Mobile before we landed and one year later they still have not unblocked it.

Vodafone have now recently announced that they are introducing FREE EU INCLUSIVE ROAMING in 40 counties for all NEW and UPGRADING customers on their RED Plans. (Similar to Three's Feel at Home which cover 19 EU destinations, however this includes 40 nations).
The new bundles will have unlimited roaming calls, texts and picture messages with a generous monthly data allowance of up to 4GB also included, all of which can be enjoyed from Norway to Turkey and almost everywhere in between.
Data however is capped at and the restriction will vary depending on your plan, but by way of example, an 8GB Red Value bundle will give you 2GB of inclusive data, while a 12GB Red Value plan gives you 4GB of data.
List of countries will be noted below. Enjoy!
Only applies to new customers from today. 6/5/16
Existing customers are excluded.
- rapid111111
... And upgrading customers from today
- rapid111111
I've been in contact with Vodafone who have said they have no set release date for roaming. In other words according to CS, their manager and their manager, no date is confirmed or decided if they will implement these changes. I was told over the phone on 3/5/16 that these changes would take effect, but there is no official confirmation.
I have recorded my call when I signed, so I have evidence. Recording someone's call, especially a business is entirely legal. My advice is never to agree to a contract without recording the call.
- intime
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You only get it if you fulfill the above criteria - it's not on their website. Sorry!

No with three at the moment but want out due to customer services. Can't see anything like this on web site

Are you already with Vodafone? If out of contract - but with Vodafone - you can get 8GB instead of 4GB for £13.50 a month :smiley:

What's best sim contract ... Need 4gb, unlimited calls and texts

I don't need Which reports to tell me that - i know they are awful! However, I have tried a couple of others and all are pretty bad...

I have an awesome monthly rate, I get 10gb of data, i get free spotify and can use the my minutes, text, data in many countries of the world for a very nominal daily rate. so for now - as much as I hate vodafone, it works for me.

They all involved at least one EU country fighting other countries. As I asked, do they not count because they weren't fought in EU countries? Do over 240,000 dead Iraqis not count because the UK helped kill them in their own country?. Peace in Europe for 70 years? Yugoslavia, it used be a single European country. .

I do, and I think a few million others. But if the other millions have cancelled their contracts then it's just me I guess

According to Which consumer reports Vodafone are bottom of the pile. Guess not everyone is aware of that...

I renegotiated my retention's deal that just missed this free roaming offer and grabbed myself a better deal at the same time.

Thanks OP.

I voted hot just cos of the comments. Some of them were hilarious. Just a simple question for all the brexit supporters. Why wouldn't the EU just give the UK what they want if it's as simple as leaving and renegotiating? Why go through all that economical and political turmoil if its a done thing as brexiters say?
I have a sneaky suspicion that Germany and co will make sure that UK get a very bad deal just in case any other states are thinking of following suit. I very much doubt they'll bin the whole EU project just cos Britain is feeling patriotic.

What No Russia in the list? I wanted to call Putin!

Didn't realise they were all clones there :stuck_out_tongue:

Erm? Shouldn't be like that in the City of London...

Get great service in London, but every user is different.

But who wants to use Vodafone? They can't even offer a 2G service in central London!

never said it wasn't possible :smiley:
and the point being that it's being offered by Vodafone for free all inclusive with their new tariffs.

I didn't say it was free, just possible.

sure? you still have to pay £3 a day for 500MB data...it isn't free and that's with EE Extra
http://shop.ee.co.uk/international/travelling-abroad

Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya are in Europe? Why weren't we told of this? There are far too many countries competing in the Eurovision Song Contest as it is.

??

We should all write to:
Glafkos Persianis, Commercial Director at Vodafone UK
and ask him why he is penalizing his exiting customers and post on the facebook page

No - they offer calls/SMS to and within the EU as well as 4G data

@ wenttoabetter place

There are so many things wrong with your post but where to begin?

The UK had to go begging to the IMF because of a runaway spending Labour Government
Our potitcal system hasn't changed. Welsh, Irish Scottish governments/assemblies? UKIP LibDems
It is the single biggest economic bloc on earth. There is strong evidence that the biggest is China (on its own)
Tax havens. Anybody in any country can use tax havens. The EU has zero powers over this.
Unparalleled workers rights and protections. Except the UK has opt outs on lots of these. (65 hour week?)
Uplifted women and afforded protection to ethnic minorities? What? Who? Where?
Apartheid. In 1994, at Chequers, Thatcher told P W Botha that apartheid had to be dismantled
The EU changed Eastern Europe. The USSR disintegrated, nothing to do with the EU
Peace in Europe in 70 years. Your most absurd claim of all or is it because some were conducted on other countries territories so they don't count?

Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Georgia, Libya, Kosovo, Cyprus, Basque, Northern Ireland, Albania etc

This is worth thinking about. If I use my phone abroad for 10 days with Eurotraveller Plus it will cost £30 but I can use any amount of data up to my 20gb limit. Say I used 10gb. On the new tariffs, there's a cap of 4gb (lower on lower data tariffs) so I'd have to pay another £45 for additional data at £15 per 2gb. That means the new tariffs would cost me £15 more in data charges and from what I understand the new tariffs are more expensive to start with.

Let's use Ryanair as an example here. They used to riddle their website with hidden fees and charges, and then create more charges at the airport too. Yes, Ryanair made money from the process - but as O'Leary has now admitted, it was bad for business. Companies make more out of customers that are happy to use their services.

So in the mobile roaming analogy - most people completely avoid using their mobile phones when abroad. So mobile operators don't make much out of most people. They just make a shed load out of a certain few. Remove the tariffs and barriers, and you suddenly have 500 million people travelling to and from different places, using their sole mobile phone all of the time - no longer worried about charges/fees. That cuts down on the churn rate for mobile operators (where people buy a sim JUST for one trip away). People will also more willingly pay extra to use a service that doesn't become useless when abroad...

Removing fees/tariffs doesn't necessarily lead to higher costs to the end user. In fact, if the EU lesson shows anything, it is that removing tariffs reduces costs at every part of the supply chain.

Let's wait and see - but I very much doubt we will be stung with higher mobile fees. All it'll mean is that we are happier to stick with one sim card for most things....and thus willingly spend more with an individual operator (which is good for their business)

It's a nonsense argument. The customer always pays either through more costly contracts or other charges.

I have just (today) got a retention deal with Vodafone (online chat). He gave me 50% off the standard price, so got 8GB, unlimited minutes and texts plus entertainment package for £13.50. Roaming data is capped at 2GB, and he confirmed that if I hit the cap, the data would disable (so i didn't rack up costs). If I want to then buy extra data, the cost would be £10 for 1GB or £15 for 2GB - which is not too bad (I guess).

Interestingly, he confirmed that whilst roaming (in the EU), you can basically call mobiles or landline anywhere in the EU for free (i.e. not just the country you are in and the UK). However, when you are in the UK, then standard international charges will apply.

I am sure others will get cheaper retention deals, but I am happy with that level of discount, and couldn't be asked to faff around further.

Gopes

Norway only has to implement the acquis relating to the single market, not the entirety of the EU acquis. So of approximately 21,000 legislative acts the single market comprises of about 6000, which mostly relate to things such as packaging, technichal standards, food safety etc. Nothing that actually subverts democracy.

The fact is however that Norway actually has greater influence than any EU member as it can set out its own position and influence the body of global legislation which makes of an ever increasing amount of the single market acquis. This is opposed to the EU who speaks for us and we are forced to accept the common position whether we agree or not, we have lost our say at the top tables.

As for Norway paying more; on a GDP basis they pay significantly less than what we do, however they still have their own obligations such as the Norwegian CAP which they fund themselves so there would be saving's, but not as much as Vote Leave would lead you to believe.

Just get yourself on Tesco Mobile. All of your allowances are free to be used in Europe for calls/texts back to the UK. For calls to EU numbers, it is 4p (taken from credit). Texts are 1p. Given that £15 in credit gets £45 of top-up, the effective cost is about 1.3p per minute for calls, and 0.3p per text.

Pretty fair if you ask me :smiley:

Spoke with customer service and they said that I need to pay extra if I will make a call to non UK based number. So Vodafone FREE roaming is a not truly free roaming... at the end.

The deal is rubbish. If you are abroad eg. Germany and need to speak with someone (German landline, German mobile) you will pay extra. All what they will offer is that you can make a call to UK mibile or UK landline from abroad for free. Rubbish...

You're right. They'll start charging 4.3p a MB after the data allowance.

Or

24 hours
To add 100MB for £2, text 'ROAM 100MB' to 40506.

Or

30-day data extra
Planning a longer trip abroad?
A 30-day Data Extra is ideal for if you need to be using data for longer trips within our inclusive roaming zone.

To add 1GB for £15, text 'ROAM 1GB' to 40506

This is a rubbish deal. Basically, on the top tier tariff they are giving you a capped 4GB data to last you the month while a abroad in the EU. I have the 20GB tariff currently and I can use as much as I want for £3 a day in the EU using eurotraveller plus and the calls are free included. or £5 day worldwide. I would get through the 4GB in like 2 days and then have no allowance while abroad for a whole month. So, in a sentence you are giving up your UK data allowance to go on something much lower while abroad.

Sure. But then you're back to only calls and texts with EE

If we leave, we still need to trade with the EU. If we want to trade with the EU without tariffs or barriers, we will almost certainly need to follow a Norwegian model. If we follow that model, we still have to adopt almost all the laws passed by Europe. We will still have to contribute the same (if not more. Norway contributes more per capita). We will also have to accept the European model of unrestricted migration.
Nothing changes...only turbulence in the short term, & less political power in the long term.

Also, why are we so blinkered about the economy being the be all and end all?! It just isn't. Unbridled economic growth has got us staring into the abyss. It also hasn't made us happier. An increase in material wealth does not correlate to an increase in wellbeing. But an increase in material wealth definitely does correlate to the decimation of the life systems that support us (and the generations that will follow)

We have bigger fish to fry (so to speak) going forward.

As I said don't really want to get into the EU debate when on a deals website referring to a Vodafone package, this is for another forum. I am not arguing with some of the points you make, in fact many parts of the EU have worked for us, but over time it has also changed and not for the better in my opinion and each to their own, what we signed up to has changed so it's time to vote again on what we now have. If we stay I can see the benefits but if we leave I also see alot of opportunity ahead but not in the short term, maybe 5 plus years down the road. The cleaner air etc you refer to comes at a massive cost, it's an absolute joke that we run our manufacturing base down because we cannot compete with countries outside of the EU and instead choose to import that pollution, employment law is crippling business here whilst the rest of the world gets on and laughs at us, the cost has been enormous. You can blind your self all you want, I'm not sure your field of work but I see it everyday how much the EU is hurting business here and turning the country into a services run economy that is sad to see.

Yeah, first line was poor hence my 'lengthy conversation'. But I'm in Europe a lot in the next few months so was worth it.

I got told on live chat I would get it added free. Called to make sure and the first guy didn't have a clue what I was on about. Called back and got cut off after being on hold for 20 mins. Waste of time

Title still missleading. Only new customers :disappointed:

Good deal

i contacted them as an existing cutomer - not able to get it but got 5 free eurotraveller days to use anytime - that will do

I should say that it's 29.60 minus the 9.99 for Spotify that I use to pay for anyway...hence the £19.61

I have had a lengthy conversation with Vodafone today and here is the summary:

I currently have the Red 20gb sim only plan (lots of tethering and stream Spotify usage) and I had the 25% discount. Thus rendering it £30 a month. Signed up in Jan 2016 on a 12 mth contract.

After speaking to 'upgrades and Options' they have signed me up to the following:

Unlimited Mins, texts and 20gb data
New 12 month contract (exp may 17)
The new travel package as mentioned in OP (into data capped at 4gb a month)
Entertainment bundle (saving £10 on Spotify)

At £29.60 (inc VAT) saving me 40p and getting the Roaming bundle.

In total I pay £19.61 pm and I get the above.

I contacted Vodafone via live chat yesterday only to be told that I would need to add Eurotraveller to my plan at a cost of £3 for each day I used it. My contract started in December 2015. Feeling gutted as I'm travelling for a month in July to Europe and Turkey.

Well said!

I wouldn't be so sure. The polls have the leave campaign behind by about 3% points - with 10% of voters undecided. The remain camp are also doing a woeful job of persuading us to stay. It's painful to watch

(The problem with the remain campaign is that the good things the EU has done are anathema to David Cameron; i.e., European Convention on Human Rights, environmental protections, workers rights protections, consumer protections. All of these rankle Conservatives like Cameron as they inhibit the kind of free market economic growth that America gets to 'enjoy'. There is so much to be proud of about the EU....yet we hear nothing about it. As usual, it's all about that vice that gives us very little pleasure regardless of how much we accrue; money)

Simple question; if the EU didn't exist, do you think EU roaming fees would be abolished next year in their entirety across Europe?

No. Of course it wouldn't. It would just be hundreds of mobile operators and 27 national communications departments squabbling with one another in exactly the same way they are doing right the way across the world.

Be under no illusions...the EU is the enabling factor in all of this. It is THE reason why roaming fees are being abolished. The EU is also the reason why EU member states have the best environmental practices anywhere on earth. It is THE reason why we have the strongest charter of human rights anywhere on earth. It is THE reason why we have zero trading/currency fees across all member states.

The EU has its failings - but for the common man, it is our best political ally. It does more for us - and protects us better - than any UK government in living memory.

The bookies are saying we will stay in by a significant margin. They're usually right .. the rabid Europhobic Daily Mail commenters will be most grumpy when the result comes through.

Can confirm that existing customers seem to be also included in this deal, I would ask for a text/email to confirm see attached just for peace of mind

Three's deal is a marketing tactic.. its free in places where Hutchinson own (or have shares in) networks and can pay little or nothing... the EU wide deal will make them do it in countries where they DONT own a network, and so currently don't do it.. so you are both half correct.

I don't really see how you can say the quote is "out of context" given the fact we are discussing roaming charges and the quotation is about roaming charges. Even so, if you want a link to the source of the quote, this is it: http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86019

It is also worth reading this one too since it gives a brief history of the work on reducing global roaming charges: http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86008

If Britain left the EU via Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, we would seek to join EFTA and the EEA. Therefore, we would not have to negotiate everything as a separate entity as you suggest.

The EU is the ONLY global economic bloc to be completely eradicating roaming charges within the next year. Nowhere else on earth has achieved the same. To misconstrue that as being some kind of failure is ludicrous.

As for the rest of what you said...let's just get some context. Prior to being a part of the EU, we were the beggars of Europe....going cap in hand to the IMF because we ran our economy into the ground. We were bankrupt without the EU in the 70's. Why do we think we will be better off now?! Our political system certainly hasn't changed. The only thing that makes us prosperous in the modern world is our ability to integrate with other economic areas. The EU has facilitated that enormously. It is the single biggest economic bloc on earth, and we are now trying to leave it?!

More importantly, this whole EU debate seems to be polarised around whether we can make more money inside or outside of Europe. I am guessing by virtue of you being on HUKD that you are not overly wealthy? By overly wealthy, I mean you aren't in a position to squirrel away your money into tax havens...? If that is the case, then you are precisely the kind of person that will have benefitted hugely from being a part of the EU. The EU has given us cleaner air, clean beaches, clean rivers (it has the strongest environmental protection laws of any place on earth!). It has given us unparalleled workers rights and protections - ones which ensure we don't get controlled by vindictive money men like you see in the Tory party. It has uplifted women, and afforded protections to ethnic minorities that you can be sure the likes of Thatcher would never have instituted (after all, she tacitly supported the apartheid regime of S.A.!). The EU has also redistributed funds to incredibly deprived areas of the UK (Welsh mining communities and a myriad of other ex industrial areas across the UK).

Most importantly of all, the EU has dragged the countries that were behind the iron curtain into a state of existence where they are safe, democratic, diverse and ever more socio-economically balanced with the privileged areas of Western Europe that never fell behind the Soviet cloud. Never forget that WE allowed many of those countries to become Soviet satellites in the first place via indifference during WW2.

Final point. We have had peace in Europe for more than 70 years. Prior to the EU, we had two global wars - both of which we, as the largest Empire on earth, were powerless to stop. So WHY would you trade peace and security for uncertainty?!

#remain

For someone who claims to be a PhD scholar, there are quite a few problems with what you have written. Firstly, you say, "I don't see how you can argue they're [the EU] irrelevant in this process". Well, just as well really, because I didn't. I'd be very interested to see if you could point where I did say the EU were "irrelevant" to the process, because you are implying that I did. Saying that the EU are not responsible for the move towards abolishing roaming charges is entirely true. It is happening all over the world (the speed of adoption may vary), and that is not down to the EU but the global bodies which I mentioned. The EU cannot take credit for simply adopting global agreements. You also say, "The argument that this would have happened anyway is highly questionable". Questionable by you, yes. But that is not to say, incorrect. Take some time to look at the ITU roadmaps and agreements. Global roaming charges are beginning to be removed the world over, not just in the supranational EU. It would have happened anyway. We can certainly argue about the timing of it happening, but, nonetheless, it would have happened as per the plan.

You then say, "But then you said it doesn't matter about the strength or credibility of your sources, as long as the information (which you're receiving from the sources) is accurate. Spot the logic fail." I don't really spot the "logic fail" there, I'm afraid. Whether or not you like Christopher Booker or not (and, I would guess, you do not, since you've lifted criticisms of him straight from Wikipedia) or indeed, anyone else, be it David Irving, Putin, Obama, etc. it is the facts which matter.

I'm not going to get into the EU debate except to make these couple of statements.

Is anyone here happy with how long it's taken to reach agreement in Europe on these phone charges, the EU has existed for a long time and only now they are getting this sorted.... This is just one example and a good reason for Me to vote out, it is simply not working for the man on the street.

The UK gives more to Europe than it gets out and that is a fact. Being one of the richer economies we are propping other Eastern block countries which will soon include Turkey and all its problems. If anyone here thinks that Europe don't want the UK in are kidding themselves, they need us probably more than we need them, The German manufacturers are already leaning on their government to ensure the UK remains as they how much it will hurt their exports should the UK be isolated by the EU, they have to trade with us.

Should be in Freebies section

BIG NO NO TO VODAFONE no matter how hot the deal is

As do EE

You very clearly stated, "The ITU has never been involved in roaming charges". This is demonstrably not true. The ITU was the original driving force behind the legislation and the global push to remove roaming charges. They were involved right from the start. Just because you happened to have previously worked in the regulatory team of a mobile operator and were reacting to EU and national regulation doesn't make this any less true. Sorry.

My new phone arrived damaged, I'm still waiting for a returns bag or courier, I phone every other day to their indian call centre but they promise this and that but nothing happens!

Cost of the contracts has gone up by around 20% as far as I can tell. Although, Voda aren't touting this as 'free' roaming. It's made their expensive contracts even less attractive, even witht the 20/30% discount that the world and his wife are eligible for.

Seriously who has a Vodafone contract these days

I went to Germany last year they charged me £4 a day
This year there gone, there the worst network for reception i have ever been with and charges ffs I called police on 101 they charged me ? sent a text witch was a to long in there opinion and charged me again, i get unlimited texts so whats all that about ? when I'm out and about I've never got a data signal, tbh i wouldn't stay with them if they gave me the contract for free.

I'm with 3 and I've had free roaming for the past year or so.
Simply I can use my allowance in eu countries.
I'm on a sim only plan 600 min, unlimited text and 1 gb of data.
Don't forget to put a cap on your spending to avoid any surprise

What nonsense... The changes within the market have come about as a result of the 'connected continent' legislative package, which relates to a broad range of telecoms services, not just mobile. The OECD, ITU & WTO make recommendations, the EU makes law... Our membership of the EU doesn't damage our ability to participate in the OECD nor influence the WTO, 500 million people mean more in trade terms than 58 million.

Be warned that the "customer service" from Vodafone is awful.

I signed up to a 12 month 4GB Red Value plan about 2 months ago, and the standard price was £2p/m cheaper then than it is now. So £24 a year for inclusive roaming? Don't feel too hard done by that it isn't for existing customers...

No it doesn't. Norway contributes £115 per Norwegian to the EU budget. The UK paid around £220 per head into the EU budget.

it's very cheap now to use your phone abroad due to new legislation.

cold, new customers only stinks. tesco have just done it including existing customers

Not just rubbish - utter rubbish No reductionin in roaming charges anywhere outside EU. More brexiters bullsh1t

The prices of all Vodafone contracts has significantly gone up to cater for this freebie. The price of s Samsung s7 edge is about £180 more over 2 years than it was last week. Same for lgg5

Even more places to not have any signal then

​This is not a deal. This has been forced on all Mobile phone providers by EU. Vodafone just trying to capitalise early using it as a new business marketing tool . Make no mistake they wouldn't be doing this unless being forced to as they make substantial revenues out of roaming charges. Don't get sucked in to the hype

New and upgrading customers only? Screw you Vodafone

​I correct myself. I have just had free roaming set up on my account and a text confirmation through!!!! give some heat :smirk:

I'm on chat with Vodafone now and they've confirmed that it is included on my package and I'm 8 months into my contract....might be one of those things you need to ask for

Just an FYI. Note: Cyprus is not on the list despite being in the EU and having Vodafone as main mobile provider. Vodafone need to add it to the list, particularly since they have Turkey on their list. FFS.

I fly to Turkey this morning.

If theres a Vodafone shop in the airport i might sign up and cancel in 2 weeks.

30days cooling off right?

A lot of people falled in the trap of populists. Disappointingly enough an enormous amount of people tend to listen to these politicians who haven't passed a single law in their life, let alone run anything. Like with everything in life, it is easy to comment as a bystander(everyone is a coach or a politician), harder to actually deliver. And that's pretty much what's happening right now, I'm yet to understand if people degraded or these guys just learned how to manipulate better thanks to all this new tech. Will see. I'm skeptical as well that we will leave the EU, but if the turnout will be small I think it's going to be a close one.

Yes, please tell me about a law that was "forced" on you poor Brits because you weren't on some godforsaken committee.
Also you nicely avoided to mention EU does have their representatives on most of them, so by proxy so do you.

Also please do let me know which countries/regions abolished roaming by now? All these committees do is give recommendations, no one has to follow the ruling and so very often they achieve absolutely nothing. EU on the other hand does now and then manages to achieve something, such as abolishing these roaming charges, better late than never).

EU isn't perfect, it is clogged by incompetent people because of the election system and because of everyone only ever looking after their own backs, led by Britain of course. But it offers a lot of good as well and is the best option available.

You are simply projecting your issues on the EU with which they have nothing to do, it is a convenient scapegoat and a completely political referendum.

I haven't heard a single reasonable argument for leaving except that patriotic nonsense. Whenever a political tries to appeal to patriotism, just stop listening as you are being manipulated.

You live in your own land mate. If you really believe what you're saying, you have a problem.

there is a cap in place which you can ask to be removed,

you will be able to cap data in the next update as well in the uk :smiley:

Guys I work for Vodafone, This will not be on old plans unless you call up and ask for it to be added,
The EU data is also capped which you can also remove

If you can not get it added to your old price plan for whatever reason you can ask for a price plan transfer which means you will have to pay £5 more (but you will get a better plan)

​as usual leaders in England haven't thought this through again
I doubt UK will leave eu

Nice conflicting information :neutral_face:

Click here: http://www.vodafone.co.uk/explore/costs/travelling-abroad/index.htm

And enter "Canary Islands" in the text box where it asks you where are you travelling to. No inclusive roaming even though it is technically in Europe Zone 1.

Enter "Spain" or "France", and you will see that it shows them as included.

For those of you still asking whether this will be inclusive to existing customers:

thanks for headsup! what i have also noticed is that they are starting to charge you for mobile internet - £6.50 for 250mb if you use over your allowance within the UK... this was never the case, even the £6.50 for 500mb they mention, that finish in June, it used to be that going over your allowance was slowing down your connection?
whats going on?

I am looking forward to free roaming in EU from June 2017, This no way would have of happened without the EU making it so ! Not believe the Leave crap ! Vote IN for Free Roaming

New customers only for these new roaming tariffs with dedicated EU allowance BUT existing
customers may be able to migrate to one of the new tariffs launched today subject to T&C with vodafone.
Eg.If you are an existing customer on the £25 tariff you should be allowed to go on the new £28 tariff as you are spending more, even if its only £3.You then get unlimited minutes and inclusive roaming / 500 MB data for £3 more a month.

You clearly do not understand Norway's relationship with the EU. Norway contributes more per head to the EU than we do. It also has to adopt 95% of EU laws, and has no power to refuse EU migrants. So how about we just consider them to be a signed up member of the EU....but with no power to create EU laws :wink:. You know, like Britain will be if we leave. THAT is why Norway is part of this agreement.

As for Turkey - it is an anomaly. Either Vodafone owns network in the country, or has some other deal going on with an operator there. Tesco do not include Turkey in their roaming, and neither do Three - so it clearly has nothing to do with the EU at all...

Roaming will be full price if Britain leaves because we will no longer have access to or benefit from these trans European agreements. We will have to negotiate them independently (or do what Norway does - and accept the EU's terms of trade/pay a contribution to the project/accept EU migrants. You know, basically what we have now - but without ANY power to affect change. Tempting, 'ey :wink: )

One other thing (and separate to the roaming debate). If we leave, Scotland will leave Britain. So you can basically consider a Brexit to be an exit from the EU, and a disintegration of the United Kingdom. That'll effectively mean Scotland will become a part of the EU and have free access to EU migrants. We will then have to build some kind of northern border system to stop those EU migrants coming in to what remains of the United Kingdom.

All starts to sound a bit costly, a bit destructive....a bit, pointless.

Why will it be full price if we leave Eu?, Norway and Turkey are not in Eu and roaming is included there......

​yeah right, like they already stand up big corporations by allowing this company to funnel profits through the tax havens. Think I prefer a treaty to a political promise

I'd rather pay and be with ANY other mobile provider than these robbing bar stewards!!!!

according to this they are included - seems pretty clear

http://assets.vodafone.co.uk/cs/groups/public/documents/contentdocuments/vfcon071718.pdf

Are you sure I get the full 6GB? I have read elsewhere that you only get a percentage of data
LOKESH: Let me check
LOKESH: Thank you for waiting
LOKESH: Yes you have 6gb data
Oliver: OK - to confirm, this can be used for free in the EU?
LOKESH: Yes
LOKESH: You are correct
Oliver: Great, thanks.
Oliver: Goodbye

I agree, but the agent confirmed. Maybe it's an old plan thing?

After speaking to Vodafone on live chat, I can confirm that EU roaming can be added for free for existing customers.

I am on Vodafone's 6GB plan, for £13.50/month (retention offer).

According to the agent, all of my allowance can be used for free in the EU.

Difference is Three offer unlimited Data with feel at home for a lower cost per month. Why would you pay more for less data, doesn't make sense

HTC 10 came today which I had preordered from mobiles.co.uk Just checked on live chat and was told I can use 500mb of my 6gb in EU

When I last used Vodafone I'd need to roam to another country just to see if I could get a signal.

NOT FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS? No loyalty there then. I have 4 red accounts up for grabs in September - no reason to stay with Vodafone then!!! LOL

Also, Monthly you have to be a customer for 1 month before you can activate roaming. PAYG is active immediately. I just buy £10 SIM 100 Mins, 1GB Data and if I need to use a cheap dumb phone for calls/text on my normal number.

Be careful with Spain, Canary Islands is not included! :disappointed:

Three's offering is better, but can't complain for a freebie.

Don't just throw around statements. Explain to me just *how* British consumers will benefit from EU roaming if we are no longer a part of the EU...

(You should be more circumspect before claiming something so self evident to be 'utter rubbish')

This will apply to existing customers so not sure of why the we are going to leave brigade are out in force. Vodafone cannot apply it until your up for renewal as prices and terms will change, this would allow the masses to leave during contract period due yo a change of terms, increasing the price would also allow users to leave, i.e your on a current retention deal at £5 less than standard tariff that you negotiated last month, why should vodafone now apply this to your account automatically? If they took it off you after signing up would you be happy? No i guess and you would want leave and end the contract.

Not many judging by the likes that post got. :smiley:

Utter rubbish, do your homework instead of believing every stat and 'fact; the stay campaign throws at ya. Good deal, saves alot of money, hot.

Think you have 30 days to cancel worst case. And re join

Still think 3 with feel at home is going to be a better deal for people as not many of those countries in EU are popular destination where as 3 offers USA, Hong Kong etc as part of the package too

It's only for New contracts since 5th May 2016,
here is the press release:

https://mediacentre.vodafone.co.uk/pressrelease/vodafone-uk-launches-inclusive-roaming-across-40-destinations/

neither the advisor over the phone or the guy at the shop have mentioned this

I'm still leaving Vodafone and will be encouraging everyone I speak with to do the same. Shocking company and I don't belive so one second they're doing something for the benefit of their customers!

Only for new customers , why Voda Why do you take good ideas and ruin them ... WiFI calling limited to a subset of phones that can do it , Broadband - no ability to change DNS or even control DHCP never mind using your own router

I love to see the source of this info rather than an out of context quote

Me this summer, which is why I'm a fan! Most of my holidays are Europe. France, Spain, Turkey, Italy etc - so for me this is more useful than USA, Hong Kong, Macau, Sri Lanka and Israel

What a load of old rubbish Vodafone come out with!

At least we will be able to get a decent 2G signal in ICELAND now with this update.. which is
more than can be said for anyone in the UK! :smile:

Awesome, are they going to give me free credit and buy me a plane ticket too? Very generous of them to help me roam freely.

That's class. Vodafone have had some good deals lately so this will be a nice addition. Think other providers will follow as roaming charges are set to be abolished next year :smiley:

Roll on summer 2017 if still in the EU this will be null and void :smiley:

Tell that to Vodafone/Three/Tesco...

Let's not turn every thread into a EU polemic. It's about the phone companies operating as a cartel for the last 20 years and fleecing Joe public in the process. Ever looked at the phone tariffs and though "they're are the bloody same"? Bingo.

Part of the EU roaming deal includes the capping of fee charged by the local networks.

You expect Little England's laws will work in say Italy?
They don't apply in even Scotland and it's the same country.
Much of this Britexit stuff is sheer fantasy.

Yes as a brother or human as such you have the chance to be better and do more cause you can have millions of possible clients or partners to sell your items or work with. When you are a country the situation is not that simple as you have only so many countries in the world and oftenly those countries are your main clients. Therfore you cannot make this comparison between those two.

As I understand it you can upgrade to the new price plan & retain your existing contractual period.

Got a new contract two days ago and there is no way i can get it! I feel quite annoyed that no one told me anything since I do travel to Europe quite often

terrible service - they'll bill you first for the calls then claim it's a billing error and you have to chase for a refund

Vodafone took my money without asking

Chained myself to my desk this afternoon trying to write up my PhD thesis (so forming and backing up logical arguments from reputable sources is the dayjob)... and I knew all about the journalist already. The sad thing is this is actually an enjoyable distraction for me :confused: Methinks I need to go outside and get some sunshine & fresh air! :smile:

As for the deal (which I just realised I've not even mentioned!), voted hot. Three at Home has been super handy- this might actually steer me to Vodafone!

Got a lot of time for the way you present arguments.

​Sorry no with an S7 Edge

Sim only? That's a little pricey. The max allowed inclusive eu roaming is 4GB. On the my Vodafone app is the £3 Euro traveller option not showing?

Sure it will be weaker, the analogy is like you and 27 brothers each runs one shop, the collective bargaining is much stronger as one, but if you wanted to do something different and make a lot of money on your own, from the other 27 brothers, you couldn't.

​Yeah. I pay £38 a month for unlimited mins, texts, 15gb data and Spotify Premium. Full price was £55

Try once more you may get luckier, this can only be found on pages devoted against the EU... the roaming will be abolished due to EU legislation, so stop spreading false news... also the rest of Europe votes for the European parliament, if the UK the best can do is to send people like farage or other with the intend to destroy EU please make it clear because the rest of Europe is voting the members of the European parliament democratically elected.

Various ways to bypass this and enable unlimited HotSpot tethering, you just need to know what you are doing ;-)
(The best methods need rooted phones as you alter android system files)

​They took Euro Traveller off for me as I used to have that for years. I've had confirmation by email that it's been removed.

Sure but it's position to negotiate would be a lot weaker, especially it has decided to leave EU by itself. You can be sure of that.

ah ok, thanks

You can suggest I don't know what I'm talking about, but I used to work in the regulatory team of a mobile operator (no I won't say which one) and the only thing we're reacting to is the EU regulation which gets transposed into national legislation. The ITU doesn't lay down any binding regulations in this area (indeed the only stuff that is binding from the ITU is the R sector for radio spectrum), and the meeting you alluded to coincided with meetings of the D (development) sector - i.e. was mainly developing nations. Over & out on this thread, because you obviously know better.

"Plans" (i.e. pay monthly with included allowances) are inclusive. Pay-as-you-go is not unless you buy an add-on before you travel.

Not quite, if UK stayed in EU, any change needs to be negotiated with the other 27 member states, if UK exits, it still negotiate with one EU (but with 27 member states reviewing the "single" negotiation).

I'm researching for a new sim. Do ID mobile and Giff Gaff allow such EU roaming?

Just a couple of cautions to those advocating using Three for going abroad.

1) You need to buy an add-on before you travel to include minutes, texts or data as you require. Normal non-add-on usage in a Feel at Home country is at roaming rates which are still expensive, especially for data.

2) Data speeds are terrible (in my experience as an ex-Three customer). Usable for GPS use and web browsing but not much else.

Even if, the EU would have to approve of this and this will not happen. If Britain leaves EU they will have to negotiate everything as a separate entity. This has been clearly stated by Obama during his visit in the UK.

100% NOT FOR EXISTING CUSTOMERS.. new plans only as of today!

Vodafone were great with me! My sim only upgrade was as follows:
20gb data a month, 2gb free.
Unlimited texts and calls.
Spotify Premium.
2 months free.
10 months at £20.
.... And now free Europe roaming.
Can't really argue.

that';s not true, they can still see you're using a laptop looking at the HTTP request headers (e.g. it will say "I am Chrome on Windows 10) and there's other techniques as well, like these ones:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/47819/how-can-phone-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot

cant vodafone simplify it Free Roaming for all and new customers across all tariffs rather than making it complicated.

As if we are still in the EU by summer 2017 that's what they'll have to do anyway.

If this doesn't include existing customers it's pretty cold

10gb previously. On a deal from mobiles.co.uk with cashback. Would not do again too much hassel

I've just been on the chat forum with customer services and they have added it to my account for free. I'm not a new customer or new upgrade customer, I'm already 2 months in to my new upgrade. I also had it confirmed I can use my entire allowance abroad (which is 15gb). I have a copy of the chat transcript for when I get a whopping bill of course! :smirk:

Not sure but if you have a rooted phone you can hack it so that it doesn't detect the tether DATA and see's all DATA as phone DATA.
Am heading out to Spain in the summer so will test one of these SIMS to see if the hack is needed or not (Don't see why they would restrict/block tether as 12GB of bandwidth costs the same for the network whether it's downloaded via the phone or via a WiFi hotspot!!)

No that's wrong. Please try not to confuse people.

Euro traveller plus is included for free on red plans. This includes free calls and texts to UK only from Europe.

I was on an old red contract recently ready to renew. Called them up and they will enact this new contract and knocked it down to £17.50 a month for unlimeted everything and 8gb data. 2gb abroad.

so, im off to Barca in 2 weeks, think Im on the RED bundle? Will it cost me to use phone aboard to text and phone home?

The EU is very much responsible for the impending changes, they are the ones who have implemented the legislation which binds the networks into the scrapping of the roaming charges. I don't see how you can argue they're irrelevant in this process. The argument that this would have happened anyway is highly questionable, and to date, it quite clearly hasn't and isn't happening any time soon. And while Christopher Booker* might say it will, he doesn't quote any sources or make any reference to exactly when that might come to fruition, or any current progress in his telegraph opinion piece.

As for us unable to join these international groups and committees, you do realise that the UK actually is either a member or strongly represented in all of the organisations you quoted?

*Christopher Booker is a largely outspoken Eurosceptic journalist who's credibility is... ahem... questionable. A few of his other gems are that asbestos is largely harmless, and artic sea ice isn't disappearing. But then you said it doesn't matter about the strength or credibility of your sources, as long as the information (which you're receiving from the sources) is accurate. Spot the logic fail.

Only the b*ellends will vote for Brexit! Freedom...

In or out of Europe will make no difference, we have waited years for this to happen which is a scandal considering the number of years we have been part of the EU. Three offer roaming in countries outside of the EU and have done so for quite some time, do you really think that if we left Europe we would suddenly lose the ability to make free calls in Europe? How many Euorpeans visit Britain each year? Businesses etc would all suddenly start getting charged to use their phones in the UK but no where else in Europe, it's not going to happen.

What is classed as a new contract? I took a new S6 out 24months, in March?

Nice - never knew about that deal. Is the data tetherable? (Can it be used in a MiFi - or shared via mobile hotspot?).

im on chat now and old customers get data traveler but for 3 quid a day no free roaming :/

I joined Vodafone Red mid Feb this year. Just contacted Vodafone Chat and they said I qualified for this but would need to move from contract CTR11 to CTR12. I then called 191 to ask if this could be done and after a lot of "asking my manager" the person said it couldn't be done unless I took out a new plan and purchased a phone (I'm on SIM only).

I think I'll wait and see if Vodafone website gets updated.

Going on holiday to Tenerife for 10 days and looking to use my phone abroad for data, on EE pay monthly but costs £4 a day

Can anybody recommend the best PAYG sim to pay for

If you look at the tariffs been bumped. It kind of works out the same. If you include the average traveller.
I'm sure that existing customers will get it. They just need to attract new customers with it first. I expect a few months down the line we'll get it too. Before EU roaming law.

Chris, it doesn't matter WHO is driving the narrative --- it is about WHO is enacting the laws that actually deliver the results to the end user.

The EU is the only supranational body worldwide that is managing to completely eradicate roaming charges across such a wide area. The IMR's own website demonstrates this perfectly;

It looks like I need to change my plan to make use of this inclusive EU roaming offer.

*Some* mobile companies.
Tesco's offer is for new and existing customers - with nothing needing to be done on the part of the customer.

"Are there any restrictions to Home From Home?
Home From Home is for all Tesco Mobile customers on all tariffs – pay as you go and pay monthly.
If you’re a pay as you go customer, you need to have activated, topped-up and used your SIM before arriving in one of our Home From Home countries."

If you are travelling in the EU throughout the summer, then Three seems to be the best option as they don't seem to have the 28 day travelling limit.

You claim the ITU has "never been involved in roaming charges". You might want to check out the ITU website: http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Regulatory-Market/Pages/Roaming_info.aspx which has a wealth of information proving otherwise. Might I suggest you don't really know what you're talking about?

Nobody was suggesting the UK would, unilaterally be able to organise the removal of global roaming charges. That's what the ITU, OECD and WTO have been driving for decades. Global bodies pushing regional bodies to enact laws. They are the driving force, not the EU.

Yep, whatever live chat may say, this is for new customers/new contracts only. Pretty sucky move, but that's what mobile companies are.

Just spoke to Vodafone live chat, bought a sim only 20gb bundle at the beggining of May and have been told that the free EU roaming is included and is for the full 20gb! Has anyone else that bought a contract prior to the press release been told the same?

Haha - so Vodafone customer service is as good as ever!

Also, the Vodafone Red plans are mightily expensive. Tesco Mobile seems like a much better option. £15 top up buys £45 of credit, and the bundles are much cheaper too...

Great deal and at last! Thanks for the heads up OP. Just called up Vodafone after signing up for another year, 3 days ago and they said they'll add it on. Will save me lots on my trips to France.

Cold from me.

Looking at a couple of their plans:-

3GB Data - £32
500MB allowed for EU

6GB Data - £37
500MB allowed for EU

12GB Data - £42
2GB allowed for EU

Will stick with 3.

Call 5 times. You won't get the same answer each time.

Ok, so what you are saying is this....

"There's these big global bodies that are forcing the EU mobile providers - en masse - to scrap roaming charges. Those same global bodies aren't having the same success elsewhere though because...ya know...countries are big, or poor, or....hmm....my arguments died a death"

There is no legislative power on earth that can usurp EU law. The EU can ratify global treaties, or it can reject them. When it comes to roaming charges, the EU may have been compelled by some other organisation to deal with the issue --- but the reality is, it is the EU that is making this EU wide legislative change. Without the EU, there would still be roaming charges in exactly the same way as there are roaming charges across the rest of the world.

All of which are not '1st world countries' or they span massive areas meaning the providers there aren't going to give it away for free due to the infrastructure cost of giving the land the coverage. The cost for a provider to send a call from one cell tower to another is zero as it uses the internet to transmit the calls. It is the cost of the infrastructure that supports it that will vary from country to country so depending on the operator and what their operating costs are they are of course going to charge where they can. But there are independent bodies (NOT THE EU) that are pushing reductions or abolishion of these charges.

Feel free to vote 'in' and be brainwashed by government propaganda with ignorance to the facts and the technology.

Either way, this is so far off topic now it is un true.

It is for RED only contracts and probably not for existing customers, Vodafone sucks and I can't wait to leave them :laughing:

Sorry, that's just not true. Roaming charges still exist around the world & the only reason they're being abolished in Europe is as a result of EU action. The ITU has never been involved in roaming charges. It's taken so long because there's been wrangling between the mobile operators and the Commission, including the level of the underlying wholesale charges, and fair usage policies. The only way that roaming charges can be economically removed is to have some fair-usage safeguards, and to cap the wholesale charges. (Absent fair usage you could do a search across the whole of the EU, pick the cheapest SIM, and use it permanently in the UK, pretty quickly driving the overseas "host" provider out of business). The UK couldn't unilaterally organise that outside Europe, as we can't dictate what e.g. SFR in France charge Vodafone to handle a roamed call.

Price drops like this are mobile companies getting marketing advantage by implementing the regulation early; as is most (but not all) of Three's offering. For Europe at least, the Vodafone package is on the whole better than the Three one because a) it includes local calls in the country you're in (Three only does to/from UK), b) the data isn't looped via the UK so no slowdown on speed and c) Vodafone has by far the largest range of 4G roaming arrangements.

On the existing customers point, existing customers can upgrade to the relevant new Red package with roaming included, and retain their contractual commitment (i.e. don't need to take out another minimum term).

You think that to increase our global power, we should LEAVE the EU?!

You realise the days of gunboat diplomacy are over? We are just an island of 65 million people on the edge of a continent. The days of buccaneering Britain are behind us. Isolationism never worked. I mean, last time we were entirely independent, we ended up going cap in hand to the IMF :wink:

Also, I ask again, how exactly is the global removal of roaming charges going?! The EU is significantly ahead of other global blocs....and that is entirely down to the legislative power of the EU system.

I just find it utterly bewildering that people are choosing to give up all the benefits accrued from being a part of the EU (along with 70 years of peace in Europe!!!) for a completely unknown future outside. One where there are no checks and balances to our fiercely undemocratic first past the post electoral system.

Also, if we leave, then we will no longer be Great Britain. We will be England + Wales + N.Ireland. Scotland will not stick with us (and I would probably move to Scotland to ensure I am not a part of the madness south of the border!)

An independent Britain favours the wealth creators. It does not favour those in our society that are vulnerable. It does not favour the promotion of fundamental human ideals about human rights, environmental integrity and peace.

Finally....those global agreements aren't created in a vacuum!! They are created via negotiations between the big economic blocs. Little Britain isn't going to have any say in such things if we leave the EU. We will just have to accept such global agreements without having any say in how they are created.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb43M_8W0AALSAv.jpg

Wonder how much of the sale of Verizon will start buying out its partners/networks, Voda is placed to become a mEUnopoly charging home customer rates a fortune :/

prepaid Voda...

It doesn't really matter how partial or not that website may be, it matters whether it is correct - which it is. You might want to learn a little about how laws and regulations are now increasingly being created at global level. The EU is simply the middle man, and in many cases entirely unnecessary. If we want to have a say in how these regulations are created, we need to leave the EU.

Nice of them to exclude existing customers. Massive FU to us!

Of course it matters. The removal of roaming charges is enacted via the EU legislative process. None of the other global bodies referenced have any power to enact such a law over EU citizens (or remove roaming charges).

If the EU was 27 separate states, do you think roaming charges would be removed entirely by 2017?! Of course not. It would be like Africa, Asia & N/S. America. Roaming charges would be an unavoidable part of the process of travel.

'Off own back' maybe the wrong phrase. But Britain being in the EU doesn't affect roaming charges. See above comment from ChrisPalmer for more clarity. As I said, it is the government jumping on the bandwagon as a ploy to make people vote 'in'

How many people visit Albania?
I would much rather have America included like 3 does, instead of Albania, Romania etc.

Haha - I love how impartial the website looks from which you take that quote :wink:

http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86019

P.S.
How is that global roaming thing coming along? As far as I can tell, the EU is one of the few areas globally where prices are falling dramatically (and will fall to zero in just a year).
Travel to Africa, Asia, S.America, and roaming charges are exorbitant. So it matters little who instigated the call for removing global roaming charges. What matters is the political body that is actually making it happen. That political body certainly isn't (and never would be) a Conservative government. It is the EU.

Be careful what you wish for.

Its capped at 12GB now.

Just spoke to Vodafone chat moaning about it being for new customers (ok i appreciate the prices are higher now) but I said i don't upgrade until midway next year and have a lot of travelling around Europe to do until then, person said that there's good news for old customers like me...no more Euro Traveller £3 fee :-)

Yep, and if you think a Conservative led government will enact consumer favouring laws, then you are in cuckoo land.

In fact, just how much of the following poster do you think would have been achieved in the UK if not for the EU? If you are relatively poor, disenfranchised, a minority, or female, then your life would be demonstrably worse if not for the EU's safeguards.

Plus, cheap travel and cheap mobile roaming charges make the summer breaks that much nice :smiley:

That's poor. I have 2 lines with Vf on red contracts which comes to £80/£90 a month. And they want £3 a day for me to use my phone on holiday in Spain.

Rubbish, I'm afraid. The European Union is not even responsible for the changes in roaming charges.

The EU was first asked to abolish roaming charges by a global body called the International Telephone Users Group (INTUG) way back in 1999. Typically, though, the EU dragged its feet, so much so that eventually INTUG approached another global body, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). The OECD involved a third global body, the International Telecommunications Union, which used the rules of a fourth, the World Trade Organisation, to ensure that by 2013 roaming charges were being abolished right across the world, the EU well down in the queue.

In or out of the EU, this would have happened anyway. The difference is that Britain being out of the European Union would mean we could join a lot of these International Groups and Committees (which we cannot do as part of the EU) and actually have a say in the way so many of our laws and regulations are being created. #Leave

ROFL. Off their own back!!? Funniest thing I've read on this site..... And that's saying something.
The networks have been raking it in for the last 20 years with these unreasonable charges, and you have the nerve/ignorance/naivety to laud them for their long overdue demise? Ah, the humour.

I wouldn't expect an answer to your questions any time soon. Your reply ended the debate!

(May it be a lesson to all those Brexiter's that think we can just leave the EU party, but still dip back in for all of the good stuff! #remain )

About time

Not the USA! Three covers the USA!

not exactly free. you pay extra £3 each month but great deal for those.

Not voting either way but for me Three is a better deal. Three includes many countries around the world including the US. Plus there is no cap.

Well I've now got it and it cost me nothing. Happy days.

This seems like an excellent motivation for existing Vodafone customers to take their custom elsewhere!!

But I believe there is a £3 charge to pay for each day you use your phone in Europe. or is that a separate thing altogether??

We cant just emulate or copy laws that require the legislative and legal integration which exists within the EU, if we are acting from outside of it... Not unless the Europeans want to extend us a lot of good will at their expense. Take the case being discussed here. How exactly do we create a law that binds foreign mobile providers in other countries to give our citizens (or indeed our networks) preferential treatment? How is that feasible or enforceable at all?!

OK, UK can enact any law they like then once exited.

The carriers are jumping before they are pushed, but European legislation is forcing the scrapping of roaming charges. While Three started rolling this policy out in selected countries where it has negotiated the ability to with local roaming partners, to pretend that all the networks will go down this route off their own back without having been forced to is very wishful thinking.

There is a lot wrong with Europe, but there are a few positives too, and this is an example of one of them (at least from the consumer perspective, not so much from the network perspective!)

UK legislators cannot just pick and choose the good bits from EU law. If you want the benefits of zero roaming charges, then you have to be signed up to the vast majority of other EU legislation (Norway isn't in the EU, but has to adopt around 95% of EU laws, and cannot restrict migration flows. Same with Switzerland, Lichtenstein and Iceland)

It also looks like it's only to new and upgrading customers! Absolute con!

Doing it off their own back? Pull the other one.

They have been milking the system for years. EU legislation is forcing their hand.

Here are the countries that Vodafone's inclusive roaming covers: Albania, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Channel Islands (Jersey & Guernsey), Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark (including the Faroe Islands), Estonia, Finland, France (including Corsica), French Territories, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Isle of Man, Italy (including Vatican City), Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal (including Azores & Madeira), Republic of Ireland, Romania, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain (including the Balearic Islands), Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey.

That wont make an iota of difference. The mobile providers are doing it off their own back whilst the government takes the credit and uses it as a reason to stay in the EU. If it was the case then Three wouldn't offer inclusive roaming to none EU states....

It is the operators and the communications regulators that are pushing it, not the EU.

May be, however, even after exit from EU, UK legislators can easily enact in a copy cat way any good EU law.

​Thanks, at least I know I'm not going mad and had imagined it! :-)

I thought there was some sort of ruling coming into force that mobile operators had to scrap roaming charges, or did I somehow imagine that?

Might want to add red bundles to the title as I'm sure this isn't for everyone.
Also new and upgrades as the title is a little deciving.