Of course it was. Oh wait is that 1992 the year you were born?
That'll be history for you then :smiley:

Meh all the poor kids had console the greatest kids had an Amiga with 16.8 million colours, upgradeable RAM, a mouse for more accurate control and a cool floppy diskette drive. Games weren't 50 quid each.

This thread is full of gaming babies, who cant remember a time before the internet or at least browsing on a 28k connections and the web consisted of a few pages of text with links to links, have no idea what a newsgroup is or an imageboard. porn would consist of a 10 minute download of badly handheld scanner image from escort magazine all stretched with conspicuous marks, it would be quicker to imagine..

It would do you good to read about a time before watching Pewdiepie or Nerd3 play games for you, and when the yearly console release schedule consisted of about 12 games, and if you were lucky enough to get a hold of one, you would play it until your fingers bled, you learned the level back to front and there was no such thing as throwing it on the pile, no one could afford a pile! well that was unless you had a Spectrum or C64, you go go to your local market (google it) and find the guy who sold Vinyl LP's (Google it) and he woudl prob have a collection of manic miners and horace goes skiing or dizzy for about £2.50-£3.50 each, of course you would have to wait 10 minutes while the game loaded from a cassette tape (google it) only for it to fail and then have to start again..

if you had even less money you could buy a magazine from the cornershop with a tape full of rubbish indie games and maybe one gem, or even better code your own game in the back pages, woudl take you about 3 hours to do it, and then another hour to realise where you went wrong.. but the joy of coding your own pong

nah if your under 30 you dont know you have been born with todays gaming.

Heated, absolutely superb book, a gripping read from start to finish for anyone with a interest in gaming. Great to see a videogames related book discounted on Kindle too, as it's a rare occurrence.

Oh you are so wrong.
What keeps Nintendo alive and strong is the portable market. If you combine sales from portable and the WiiU, Nintendo sold more then Sony and MS together.

I am absolutely loving this book

I had a commdore 64 also and played on tapes that was fun.

100x this :smiley:

Due to inept management Commodore never was the king it could have been, remember the CDTV, for every success they managed a major flop...

Please close the door on the way out. Commodore was king (for a while anyways)

Do you know about The Company? They have loads of .exe emulated games. I downloaded Supercars 2 not so long ago and had a blast playing it. There's nothing quite as satisfying as buying a bunch of rockets at $100 each, then selling them all for $500 before the next level. Those between level questions too, where the answers are so ridiculously ambiguous that you get fined whatever you answer. Such a fun game.

3DO wasn't just from Panasonic, there was an Hitachi and Lucky Goldstar (LG) models, they were the 1st proper 3D capable console to hit the market so 1st to get proper 3D version of FIFA , the 1st ever Need for Speed and the greatest version of Road Rash! It's video playback abilities were also far better than the CD32 and even the PlayStation, it was far from lame, it was well ahead of its time rather than commodores lame attempt at making a console I'm afraid.

Well said good sir... I feel exactly the same. I lost count of how many times I'd wait an hour or two to download one song!
Kids don't know they're born these days!

I certainly did, it broke after a few months though, the beginning to Microcosm was amazing, the game sucked but that didn't matter. The controller was lame but it was CD based games then Panasonic had the 3DO which was more lame than the Hound after he fell down the hill. Kids these days are all focussed on multi-player but the real genius back then was a game you played alone or with another person and would play for days! Super Cars and Super Cars 2 were classics.

Memorable games? I remember playing em but don't remember thinking wow this is amazing, Firefox for all its early 3D graphics was a bit of a dog to play on 16bit systems, even virtua racing on the MD had more playability n that's saying something...

Can clearly remember everyone stopping dead in their tracks at the sight of seeing FIFA playing on the Megadrive at ECTS on a massive screen, that was truly a step forward and also the SNES version played horrible next to the MD copy, Think FIFA was the 1st truly huge selling game in the UK too, I was importing from all over Europe to keep up with demand back then, luckily they were identical to the UK cartridges.

Have every single MD and SNES game released on my Shield and definitely play more MD than SNES on it, think only Super Ghouls n Ghosts and Castlevania get any real repeated play on SNES ROMs.

Hardly anyone bought a CD32, that was the problem...

Daft idea - take an A1200, remove the keyboard and add a CD drive - if they simply did it as an add on for the Amiga then it might have stood a chance.

Btw Microcosm came out on the MegaCD 1st.

Off the top of my head, Metroid, Zelda, Pokemon and Starfox franchises.

Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity - after the N64 being a commercial flop Nintendo were struggling financially, Gameboy sales or not.

As for memorable games, what you got after Mario, Donkey Kong and GoldenEye?

I'm also aware that commercially the original Xbox was a huge flop, it cost Microsoft billions but it put them in the number 1 slot for previous gen and no 2 in current whereas the Wii U is all but forgotten.

Obviously you have no idea how much revenue the Gameboy made for them, and then with the Nintendo DS.. Handheld is their bread and butter..

What you forget as well though is the SNES, N64, Gamecube, Wii and Wii U all have the most memorable games that are only available on a Nintendo format. Nintendo are a strange business, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

Did you get a CD32? The intros (e.g. Alien Breen Tower Assault) were incredible at the time. Also Microcosm - although the gameplay was rubbish it looked so good! (like that movie Innerspace). I used to spend hours playing Liberation, Roadkill, Skidmarks, Cannon Fodder and Alien Breed 3D (on the A1200).

Yes! Except it was really good. You could play the levels in order (like a campaign mode) or choose them to practice. The best bits were walking down corridors, shooting the cyberpunks, avoiding the civvies. Its horrendous by today's standards, but at the time was very original and novel, and a massive step above the usual movie tie-ins (eg Terminator 2 which was an abomination). The bit you mentioned with the ninja robot, you could just pull your pistol and shoot it rather than fighting.

So in the end Nintendo lost too...

Nintendo got lucky with the Wii selling as well as it did, without it they wine dead and buried too by now.

It is £5.66 at the moment for me, do I need to use some sort of coupon to get it for 98p or the deal is over?

The Sega vs Nintendo ended and Nintendo won. Now is Sony vs Microsoft and Nintendo just don't care about them.

It died a death quite a few years ago, use Reicast on the Shield for my Dreamcast fix these days.

And so the console wars continued with PS and Xbox.

What happened to your Dreamcast? No pride of place under your swanky TV?

Mate, played everything Amiga as well as ST, PC, Megadrive, SNES, PlayStation, Saturn, 3DO was a buyer for a chain of computer shops before went to work within publishing and distribution. I no allegiances to any format, it was just games games games!

Ha. I went to a1200 when it was released. Just wow the AGA chipset was amazing. Did you ever play TFX? These console kids know nothing, their games were shallow, fickle and lame!

Long live computer games!

Quavers domino game was amazing. It really was. So many top games (or even rubbish ones I just loved!), such as:

Cannon Fodder, Impossible Mission, Lemmings, Another World, Speedball 2, Brutal Sports Football, Monkey Island (both of them), Chaos Engine, Turrican, Jimmy White's Snooker, IK+, Sensi Soccer (SWOS especially), Alien Breed, Syndicate, Worms, Superfrog, Wings, X-com (those were solid), Dune, Theme Hospital/Park, Champ Man, Sim City, Populous, Pirates, Settlers.

That's a lot off the top of my head, likely a lot more I'm missing!

Nah, 1st online gaming was with both consoles, Dreamcast had some absolutely awesome titles and games like Soul Caliber played the best by far of all versions. Xbox's harddrive was a game changer and graphically the Xbox still stands up today in fact still have a Crystal Green Halo edition model sat under my 4k TV next to the PS3, PS4 and Nvidia Shield Pro.

Awww, you were one of those poor street urchins who's parents could only afford the cut down 600, the rich kids had the 500 or 1200.....

That's pretty cool :sunglasses:

Still, poor decision IMO :man:

Awww bless you were one of the poor street urchins who only knew consoles. Although I did get an Atari Jaguar but games were 50 quid so I only ever had a couple and they sucked BECAUSE ALL CONSOLES DO!

Ahhh the Christmas morning when I first saw my Amiga 600 with quavers dominos was one of the best in my life. I was stunned as computers were fecking expensive unlike the 99 quid consoles. My dad set it up but it had no sound, I didn't know there was a small black switch on the back until the next day. Then while downstairs I heard some music so thought sweet Jesus is that my Amiga being fumbled with and when I bombed it upstairs my dad was sat with a box of floppy disks* and was playing Moonstone. I must have watched the opening sequence a million times (look it up on YouTube). Just freaking awesome man.

*edit the floppy disks were no cheap versions they were 1.44mb double density Immac disks that came in blue plastic boxes of ten. To be honest he gotthem from ICI where he worked. He got freaking hundreds by being "nice" to the secretary. Dunno what he meant by nice but whatever or whoever he did it worked. Meh all the poor kids with cheap floppy disks and a hundred labels for a quid.

46 and used to work in the games industry in the 90's fella!

My guess would be that you are both under 30

I love you!

Having owned pretty much every console going and gone he has a point, toss up between the DC and the original Xbox for me.

I had a megadrive and I was almost 90s born in 1988 and to this day my best gaming memories are playing on that system some truly epic games, Toejam and Earl being my all time favourite. recently played through streets of age and it looks amazing love the style of that game. but the SNES, NES had some brilliant games to remeber playing mario 3 at a mates and being like I want one of these too. cheers OP shall give it a read.

Ordered, thanks!

In your opinion!

Was Robocop 3 the one where you chose your missions?
I remember fighting a ninja (poorly), doing some fps shooting and I think there was some driving.
The game was really bad.

Battle, not best ever, also, if you think Dreamcast is the best ever console, that's totally stupid!

Chaos Engine, Syndicate, Speedball 2, Supercars 2, anything by Team 17, pirated disks with garish coloured musical trainer screens, hacking the sound files of Worms so they swore, playing demo disks from magazines over and over until you were virtuoso at it, Amiga Format/Power/Action, playing Robocop 3 and thinking it was like virtual reality. Ugh, those were the days

Yup one of the console owners right there. His mummy never bought him an Amiga

People have revolted for less!

​Aww don't cry please, would you like a hug?

Dude wtf are you on about?

If you want to go it like that then why do people compare Samsung (1938), Apple (1976) and Microsoft (1975) to one another till this day? Each company was created in different years.

You are such a moron.

Too right, that was a special time.

Now Sonic competes against Mario in the Olympics. :confused:

They were both great, end of.

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How delightfully patronising.

This thread is full of gaming babies, who cant remember a time before the internet or at least browsing on a 28k connections and the web consisted of a few pages of text with links to links, have no idea what a newsgroup is or an imageboard. porn would consist of a 10 minute download of badly handheld scanner image from escort magazine all stretched with conspicuous marks, it would be quicker to imagine..

It would do you good to read about a time before watching Pewdiepie or Nerd3 play games for you, and when the yearly console release schedule consisted of about 12 games, and if you were lucky enough to get a hold of one, you would play it until your fingers bled, you learned the level back to front and there was no such thing as throwing it on the pile, no one could afford a pile! well that was unless you had a Spectrum or C64, you go go to your local market (google it) and find the guy who sold Vinyl LP's (Google it) and he woudl prob have a collection of manic miners and horace goes skiing or dizzy for about £2.50-£3.50 each, of course you would have to wait 10 minutes while the game loaded from a cassette tape (google it) only for it to fail and then have to start again..

if you had even less money you could buy a magazine from the cornershop with a tape full of rubbish indie games and maybe one gem, or even better code your own game in the back pages, woudl take you about 3 hours to do it, and then another hour to realise where you went wrong.. but the joy of coding your own pong

nah if your under 30 you dont know you have been born with todays gaming.

As you can tell from my profile picture, this is right up my street. Excellent deal! <3

Awesome game from Ocean??? Are you having a laugh? The company that turned every licence into an identikit poor platformer.....

Psygnosis were usually just a mediocre title with a flashy intro that took up the 1st disc and the game contained some pretty parallax scrolling and nothing else.

Now if you were talking Bitmap Brothers then you'd have been talking sense!

Seriously , quit while you can - you clearly absolutely haven't a clue about gaming console history!

SNES v Megadrive was a beast. I had the NES then the Megadrive. Then hopped on over the PlayStation as everyone was lapping up the dreamcast and n64 (which I eventually got in the end through sheer curiosity. Set the standard for multiplayer gaming, though. Nintendo though, have, and always will, be the kings of the handheld. Sega and sony have both tried and failed to stack up against the game boy the consoles never kept Nintendo afloat as someone up there said, it was just trying to thicken a revenue stream, while the game boy is turning profit hand over fist they can afford to put a bit into r&d and if they fail then it doesn't really matter too much.

Yep, I need this at this price, given that I managed to get a Kindle from Tesco last week. Bought - thanks! :smiley:

Don't need to read it; I lived it. Lost some good friends. Dark days.

Yeah if you had a dumb parent that thought Atari was cool, If you had an Amiga it was like oh look another AWESOME game by Ocean or Pygnosis.

​Nap time now grandad :wink:

Pffffff! SHAME (points finger)! :man::smile:

Thanks, bought

nice find

​Yeah 90's kid me, and proud.

awesome, heat added and bought

The Sega Dreamcast was excellent, and not long after Nintendo brought out the Gamecube, so Sega have had their good periods and Nintendo have had bad times and arguably never recovered, the Wii was awesome until the novelty factor wore off and no one played it anymore, the Wii U is a dud of a console as well.

That's cringingly familiar!!!!!! :smiley:

Errr...... really?!?!? I guess I didn't buy a Sega Genesis as my mate bought a Nintendo Super Famicom back in around 1990 then, I couldn't have done.... could I??!? Always willing to be put right by people who know more than me..... :man:

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The youth of today! They just think sega is the company that puts sonic in games on a Nintendo! Gone are the days where is was blasphemy to even consider that ever happening!

Purchased. Enjoyed watching The King of Kong and Atari Game Over, so hopefully this be as intresting.

great read. amazing underdog story with Sega. well worth a read. heat

Sony change the world of gaming with ps1.

Nope, you must have been born in the 90's!!!

Great book. Have it as an audio book and listened in the car on way to work over about a week.

And a roaring trade I had. Amiga games were excellent though.

This is a great read, have some heat :smiley:

Wicked!

No, they were usually pirated from Dodgy Dave at the local car boot....

Sega does what Ninten-don't

Wow thanks op gonna pick this up for sure. I remember those times pretty well. Still hard to believe Nintendo are still around with the same set of games being resold over the decades and a few gimmicky controllers being enough to keep them afloat. Ah, gone are the good old days for sure.

Thanks OP

Finished reading this a few days ago actually, great book. Terrific insight into Sega and Nintendo :smiley:

Bought cheers, nice to have a gaming book amongst the numerous titles on my kindle which I never use lol

Amiga vs Atari ST was the ultimate conflict

Meh all the poor kids had console the greatest kids had an Amiga with 16.8 million colours, upgradeable RAM, a mouse for more accurate control and a cool floppy diskette drive. Games weren't 50 quid each.

Cracking read

Loved it though kind of want a sequel that continues the history but not sure from what viewpoint, this is clever as it used people's stories to move the big story on.

You're talking about Spectrum vs C64 vs BBC?

Dreamcast died and got replaced

It is a bit like Blur n Oasis, all good friends now, happy days.

Quite right, Sega Dreamcast was the greatest console ever. ^_^

Useful fodder for tv comedy shows?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZA2770_f84

Of course it was. Oh wait is that 1992 the year you were born?
That'll be history for you then :smiley:

I had the SNES and the Megadrive, both were really good consoles and Ninty showed that raw power is meaningless without good software to play on it.

Fanboy rages?!?!?

I think that its always been a case of the consoles being in COMPETITION with each other, it was and still is, the users who fuel the war! :smiley:

The halcyon-days console war certainly has ended. Not sure what I'd call it these days....

I reckon they did for Nintendo. Other consoles are still in battle v each other, just not Nintendo.

Thanks OP, I too had a £1 credit thingy kicking around so cost me nowt. :smile:

> IMPLYING THE CONSOLE WARS EVER ENDED

Cheers for this, I had a £1 credit at Amazon, this will do nicely.

Cheers for this, OP!

Hey what the heck. Bought.

Since I got the £39 Kindle Paperwhite recently, might as well pick up some cheap summer reading material :stuck_out_tongue:

Sega Dreamcast?

Really good read. Gives you a great insight into the best games console battle ever!!!

Heated, absolutely superb book, a gripping read from start to finish for anyone with a interest in gaming. Great to see a videogames related book discounted on Kindle too, as it's a rare occurrence.