Bosch Professional GSB-2-Li-Plus 18v Combi Drill is now even cheaper at Screwfix until 5th June.
Comes with 2 x 1.5Ah Li-Ion batteries, 50min charger and hard case.
13mm auto lock chuck, 21 torque settings, in built light and optional belt clip. Functions as screwdriver, drill or hammer. Weighs only 1.5kg so ideal for overhead work.
Some won't like the 1.5Ah batteries but remember there are 2 included in the deal. Absolutely fine for the average DIYer. This is Bosch professional blue, so all metal body and a 3 year warranty (2 on the batteries) if you register it online. Hard to beat at sub £90!
If you've shopped at screwfix before look out for a leaflet in the post, mine had a £5 off voucher so got this today for £84.99.
Top comments
rascalchops
27 May 1633#2
Hot. I do NOT need this, I do NOT need this.
g1hsg
27 May 165#12
Bosch Blue, designed to be used and abused day in and day out by the trade. A cut above the Stanley in every respect. 2 x 1.5aH batts will be more than adequate for DIY. A stupidly good deal that I don't need but will probably buy anyway just for the day when my Milwaukee dies.
ninjin
27 May 164#34
are you sure you haven't got it wrong way round? 18v is the power of the drill (higher the more powerful) and amp is the capacity (I.e. run time).
RCUK
27 May 164#31
Hows your new drill?? :smiley:
All comments (180)
KendallC
27 May 16#1
I realise there is a difference in battery capacity but for DIY use and assuming this will be my one and only drill, can anyone suggest whether I would be better of with this Bosch or the Stanley one from Homebase here...
Take your pick, theoretically the Stanley 2.0Ah battery should last longer but not necessarily so ! Bosch have been making power tools forever whereas in name, Stanley are relatively new to the power tool market. Sorry I can't offer a more definite answer. Apparently B & D, Stanley & DeWalt are all tied in together somehow.
rascalchops
27 May 1633#2
Hot. I do NOT need this, I do NOT need this.
tigerstyle2ne1
27 May 161#4
Battery is just run time not power, and with 2 batteries you'll never be caught short.
Bosch is more powerful, better warranty, and a proper brand.
shropshirelass51
27 May 16#5
Probably a silly question but do any drill bits fit, or do I have to get specific ones (buying for son and I don't know anything about power tools)/ Thanks
bc909885
27 May 161#6
Shropshire lass - don't worry, just buy it. Very good deal for a very solid bit of kit. I paid the same for the DIY quality green one. He'll be able to use it with all standard drill bits and attachments. Hot.
KendallC
27 May 16#7
Thank you! Unless anyone else comes forward with a valid reason why the Stanley is better then you have made my decision for me!
pnaylor39 to KendallC
27 May 162#24
I've got this albeit with 4.0 amp batteries. Bosch professional 3yr warranty . Metal gears . Forget about stanley and other DIY brands This drill is as good as Dewalt . 2 x 1.5 Li batteries will be sufficient for most diy tasks
ss87
27 May 161#8
They are both good drills. I know a professional Carpenter who swears by the Stanley even for daily use. I have the Bosch and like it because the batteries are compatible with my other tools and boxes.
ajdj
27 May 163#9
You wont regret buying the Bosch. The blue professional range is very well built and you have the benefit of the bosch warranty. I'm delighted with mine!
anonimousse
27 May 16#10
@bc909885 Please can you supply more information to help people along: perhaps pros and cons on owning the equipment based on your experience, considering your emphatic endorsement?
YouDontWantToKnow
27 May 16#11
Do I need to update my Nicad Makita just yet?
This is so bloody tempting!
g1hsg
27 May 165#12
Bosch Blue, designed to be used and abused day in and day out by the trade. A cut above the Stanley in every respect. 2 x 1.5aH batts will be more than adequate for DIY. A stupidly good deal that I don't need but will probably buy anyway just for the day when my Milwaukee dies.
andynicol
27 May 163#13
Not if its still working.
Lithium battery operated drills are getting cheaper, with most manufacturers producing brushless tools also, its pushing the price of decent non-brushless down, I'd wait until you Ni-Cad dies then replace, you'll get a better deal in a month, or 2, 6 etc etc
andynicol
27 May 163#14
@ anonimousse Please provide a link to a better drill at this price point.
YouDontWantToKnow
27 May 16#15
Thats what I reckon. After 6 years the Makita is still going strong
adrenalin84
27 May 16#16
great little drill I got the one with the 3ah battery, if it's for the house the 1.5ah is fine but for me a 3ah was a must
blackhawk27
27 May 16#17
is this brushless?
ajdj
27 May 16#18
Not at this price
andynicol
27 May 16#19
Makita 14.4v by any chance? mines was abused for near on 10 years and I was gutted when it (or the batteries) died, couldn't justify getting repaired or replacing the batteries, but my Dewalt XR is a damn good replacement :sunglasses:
tigerstyle2ne1
27 May 16#20
It is the same as all decent cordless drills. Up to 13mm normally, or can drill larger holes with the right drill bits. 13mm is enough for most jobs!
anonimousse
27 May 161#21
@andynicol Please let the person for whom the question was intended for answer the question, unless you are acting as their mouthpiece. Also, not everything is about circular links to find a conducive price point and rather sharing knowledge about owning the equipment.
YouDontWantToKnow
27 May 16#22
Nah its the 18v needed a bit more power because its mostly brickwork it gets used on. Well impressed with it but always wanted to have a play with a Bosch Blue & this is a good price but you are right. Why replace things that arent broken especially if prices continue to drop.
eslick
27 May 16#23
Stanley were the power tool of choice in the 70s so not really new to power tools :smiley: it merged with black and decker in 2009, Black and decker had owned dewalt sine 1960.
YouDontWantToKnow
27 May 161#25
Black & Decker may well have owned Dewalt since the 60s but it wasnt until the 2000s that it started mucking about with Dewalts drills
andynicol
27 May 16#26
I'd love your recommendations on a B&D or Stanley drill that betters a DeWalt DCD995.
plagued
27 May 16#27
lovely drill, on par if not better than my makita and batteries last well despite the size.
reebuk
27 May 16#28
My Elu drill is over 20 years old and still going!!
pmaker
27 May 161#29
18 V for runtime- both batteries equal (12V,24V,36V- The higher V number means more runtime), 1.5Ah-2.0Ah Stanley battery more powerful (1.3 Ah,2.0,2.6,3.60,4.00,5.00- the higher Ah number means more powerful battery. For DIY jobs you are perfectly fine with 1.5 Ah. Blue Bosch are for professional everyday use, for DIY jobs they are in green.
Vs... OP's post offer here. Yes i know their is a significant price difference, is that equipment with added cost worth it?
ninjin
27 May 164#34
are you sure you haven't got it wrong way round? 18v is the power of the drill (higher the more powerful) and amp is the capacity (I.e. run time).
ajavaid92
27 May 16#35
Bosch blue or Makita?
Krizzo3 to ajavaid92
28 May 16#51
Ehhhh................Makita for my money...
For the people who want this as their only drill, you should really get a rotary hammer if you want to drill brick etc, even a cheap disposable one.
teddybeers to ajavaid92
28 May 16#61
Bosch mate
Gazz59
27 May 16#36
I feel your pain
turbo_c
27 May 16#37
Can anyone recommend a good drill bit set?
ukmonkey
27 May 16#38
So how you going to drill that hole then ?
alan460_37
27 May 16#39
Does anyone have a spare voucher code , or know where to get them ??
ukdoc1976
27 May 16#40
Can I use it as impact driver? how good it would be? should I go for this one or pay a bit more and buy makita drill set which was posted yesterday. Please help.
themachman
27 May 161#41
Bargain :smiley: Anyone know where Bosch Blue are made?
fubar888
27 May 161#42
You're correct in that pmaker has it slightly muddled. 18v means 18 volts and is not related to runtime directly and has a bearing on power but in itself is not a measure of power! The power of a battery drill is rarely quoted (it's measured in watts and is equal to volts X amps). It's a little misleading for manufacturers to quote volts as an indicator of power, though typically the higher voltage equals more torque. The Ah is amp-hours and refers to capacity of the battery at its quoted voltage. Theoretically an 18v drill with 1ah battery can do the same work as a 9v with 2ah battery (both have 18 watt-hour battery capacity).
moneyfornothing
27 May 16#43
got this but with 1 x 3 ah battery. also have a green Bosch cordless (allfourone battery system). this is a much stronger, better built drill
NEtech
27 May 161#44
They were making DeWalt and Elu drills back in the early 90's. 1994 I was making DeWalt products for B&D then a year later we started making the high end Elu stuff which DeWalt had recently purchased.
fairdeals
28 May 16#45
Trying to make myself feel better after grabbing myself the Hitachi drill when its £80 deal appeared here last time, is my Hitachi better than this Bosch? :confused:
scaryrobert to fairdeals
28 May 16#47
TBH if you are using them occasionally DIYing you won't notice the difference. Professional tools are designed to be used by the trade which means run until battery is flat then continue with other battery and so forth, all day everyday. I sell power tools and I genuinely can't pick between the big names. Its personal preference with regards to the handling and feel. Also which brand you are already using. I started with a dewalt drill. Because I had the batteries already I then had the freedom to add an impact driver, jigsaw multi tool while using the same batteries and charger. Bear in mind a single battery can cost between 30 to over 100 pounds depending on capacity.
JohnOFarrell to fairdeals
28 May 16#62
i love my Hitachi drill! you made a good choice!
phoni
28 May 161#46
Absolutely! I bought this for a similar price about a year ago.
Very nice but... I have done anything during last year that I couldn't have done with my old £15 drill
gidsterc
28 May 161#48
In the Bosch factory....?
pmaker
28 May 161#49
You are right. I was wrong,sorry. Just reacted to comment: "Battery is just run time not power..."
PhilK
28 May 16#50
It's not a hairdressing product so yes :stuck_out_tongue:
jonahj
28 May 16#52
Excellent deal thank you
fubar888 to jonahj
28 May 16#54
Hammer mode on these things is more of a "get me by" function. If you're doing any significant drilling into brick/concrete etc then you're way better off with an Sds. I've got a combi makita and rarely use the hammer function. If I'm drilling more than 1 hole it's worth the hassle of getting out my corded Sds (only a little 2kg one). However, sometimes it's useful to have the option of hammer on these things, in itself it's much better than drilling holes in hard stuff without any hammer mode!!
This seems like a great deal, I doubt you could find an equivalent makita for similar money. If I was in the market for a new drill I'd go for this, bosch blue are a different beast to their green range.
YouDontWantToKnow
28 May 16#53
Tried an 18v Hitachi Cordless Combi in my back garden on a wall for 20 minutes & then took it back for a refund next day. Totally crap in hammer mode.
TheUrbis
28 May 16#55
Wanna sell me your Hitachi?
bettz1
28 May 16#56
Ooooooooooooh I bought a WORX the other week off amazon but it's still boxed now do I send it back or not... Worx
wiffles
28 May 161#57
36 volt bosch drill is better... but this one still a good deal
Sackboy1
28 May 16#58
Yes, almost definitely.
ajdj
28 May 161#59
The Makita deal yesterday was a 10.8v set so you're not comparing like for like. If you want an impact driver as well buy the Bosch from screw fix and pick up a bare unit GDR from Amazon/EBay etc for £70. The 18v batteries are interchangeable across the range giving you options to add other tools as you go.
If you're not bothered about 18v then the 10.8v sets are around £115- the Makita deal posted yesterday or Dewalt at B&Q until Monday. The Bosch 10.8v set is £135 at Amazon. I pondered over a 10.8v set but decided I'd rather have the versatility of an 18v with 13mm chuck. The Bosch is pretty light and not too big anyway.
darksideby182
28 May 16#60
For this money the drills are much the same especially as most will only be using for diy , if using everyday and multiple charges through out a week then spend a bit more. Tbh most carpenters and dry liners on site use Makita or Bosch.
ashman33
28 May 16#63
I'm not a trade but isn't the cost in the battery ? I'm looking at the Makita LXt range and bare drills are pretty cheap . On the Bosch deal I voted hot but how long would a 1.5Ah battery last?
teddybeers
28 May 16#64
Not really.
Real power (Nm) comes from drill spec.
It's all about how efficient is the motor.
Voltage * Current = Power (of battery)
In this case 18V x 1.5Ah = 27Wh
Same drill with 4Ah batts gives you 72Wh
Which means that the drill with 4Ah will run 2.6 times longer than 1.5ah
It was also on the shelf of my local B&Q Extra for £24 but isn't on their website for some reason. Again, this is the blue professional set, not to be confused with the cheaper green boxed versions they do for £10-15.
This drill is great for Pro's but needs bigger batteries.
Biggest one is 6Ah while 4Ah is standard.
For DIY is massive OVERKILL.
Lidl/aldi one for £20 is well enough for everyone who's not in trade industry.
Anyway.
Voted hot as this is really good price.
Usually is £99 for body only (no charger, batts, box)
teddybeers
28 May 16#67
Malaysia
teddybeers
28 May 16#68
No. 36V it's not.
It's big, bulky and heavy.
Also 18V series have more compatible tools with the same batteries.
fairytooth
28 May 162#69
No, you still need the missus to clean up afterwards
andyb83
28 May 16#70
That 100% wrong. The volts give you power, the amp hours (ah) give run time.
ElRobinio
28 May 16#71
Good deal. As with all these LI-on batteries, make sure you maximise the life of them by storing partially charged, around the 40-50% mark and they'll last for years.
g1hsg
28 May 161#72
There is far more to it than that. Try daisy chaining 2 PP3's and see how that turns your car starter over. According to your assertion the 18v they provide would easily do it...............
honeymonster86
28 May 161#73
Not saying this is a bad price, but its only £10 off the RRP, not exactly wild
ameerahmed
28 May 16#74
Bosch overpowers stanley when it comes to powertools, no doubt. This is a great option for the keen DIYer. Though not strong enough for professional use.
You know that's not how this site works...............
argosextra
28 May 16#81
I've got concrete wall can I drill with this.
Can this drill a concrete wall thanks
PhilK
28 May 16#82
Don't I know it......I feel like I'm drowning in stuff I buy and don't use when I HAD thought they were essential !!! :laughing:
TJ2K
28 May 16#83
Don't think anyone has said, sorry if they have - but there's a little Quidco too. I'd like to get my hands on the £5 voucher - but my Screwfix account wasn't signed up for marketing email & mail. Does anyone know if it was just a code? I'd like to click & collect...
TheUrbis
28 May 16#84
Different class completely.
PhilK
28 May 161#85
Your explanation of WHY is very convincing
snappyfish
28 May 16#86
Doubt it you might take the whole wall down?
johnrb
28 May 16#87
This drill is £73 from Amazon.
brianfj1200
28 May 16#88
I don't know how B&D and De Walt can be mentioned in the same breath, B&D in my experience is just Poundland crap and should never be purchased even for a one off job! Total crap!
ajdj
28 May 161#89
It isn't, dont confuse this with the green DIY model PSB. Completley different animals.
lhwjud
28 May 161#90
Link?
abaxas
28 May 16#91
They are the same company!!!!!!!
Dewalt used to be 'the name' but their lower end stuff is no better than the B&D except with a 30-40% markup. Also, different tradesmen tend to have different preferences. Some love dewalt, others makita, bosch, etc.
To get back on topic. Two 1.5ah batteries is better than one 3ah. One is charging, while the other is in use.
If you're after a low torque drill, just buy this.
andynicol
28 May 161#92
Touchy eh?
Is that your input to this site, sharing knowledge?
It certainly isn't deals you share. :laughing:
Georgedeals
28 May 16#93
you need minimum of 2ah 4 is good.
BobTheFish
28 May 16#94
I have the Bosch GSR 10.8 Li-ion blue professional screwdriver, which I bought in 2006, and it's the best tool that I've ever bought.
g1hsg
28 May 16#95
You need to revisit your definition of essential!
mithre
28 May 16#96
Hrrm, I was considering a deal for the Makita DHP459 for £120 but this has thrown a spanner in the works. Would only be using for home DIY so maybe the Makita would be overkill! Does anyone have any opinion between the two?
TheUrbis
28 May 161#97
I'm not Google, nor do I need to summarise what's already been discussed in the thread.
qwerta369
28 May 16#98
Bosch is crap. Makita FTW.
jaizan
28 May 16#99
Not quite.
Nm is a measure of torque not power.
To get power, you need to multiply the torque by the angular velocity.
High torque can either be achieved via a high torque motor or gearing it down.
The more interesting question is what to buy. After several years, I'm still delighted with my Bosch 18v Green Li Ion drill.
Do I need a more robust, but heavier drill ?
Gavin01
28 May 16#100
Used most and now swear by my dual bosch drill driver and impact driver.... Got two 3ah batteries and they can do a day roughly of very hard work! I try to buy bosch now just because of the quality now
Gavin01
28 May 16#101
Lol please enlighten us?
poisondwarf
28 May 16#102
good deal, voted hot
Helgrr
28 May 16#103
Bosch over Stanley every time
anonimousse
28 May 161#104
Not all of us can be a deal-posting god like you but at least we try to be useful in other ways ;--))
joehart2
28 May 16#105
Fantastic deal, heat added
paneds
28 May 16#106
hot hot hot I would buy this over stanley even if it was £20 dearer bosch are excellent tools
spannerzone
28 May 16#107
For those that need a higher torque drill, consider the Makita 458, it has roughly double the Nm torque of most average drills and while it's not that cheap, it can be had for about £150 ish and makes drilling into hard walls, concrete etc so much easier than many average drills.
But for a decent drill for average home DIY then this Bosch is hard to beat.
For masonary drill bits, I've found the Dewalt extreme 2 seem amongst the best.... often cheaper than this if I recall.
captainbeaky
28 May 16#108
A drill is the deal of the day. Makes a change.
paulmckay
28 May 16#109
Would be a great drill for occasional use/DIY etc. I had one a year or so ago, broke a few times in the first year but i used it everyday. Plumber to trade. My work got a few from bosch, freebies, all the guys had problems pretty early on. Not what i expected from blue bosch but this is the lowest of that range. So in all, would be a good drill for DIY but not trade, i know it has a 3 year guarantee but when you need it everyday you cant do without it for a week or 2 being repaired
jorro69
28 May 16#110
My first BOSCH GSB 18 VE-2-LI was made in Switzerland. Died after 7 years of abuse. New body made in Malaysia. As well as the old batteries. Batteries (2.6 Ah) still last for adges. Bosch all the way!
jorro69
28 May 16#111
Malaysia. Nothing wrong.
anonimousse
28 May 162#112
It is a Bank Holiday weekend?
jorro69
28 May 16#113
No. Bosch brushless are marked GSR!
Ignore the silly comments
jorro69
28 May 16#114
Doubt it. SDS drill needed for concrete.
PhilK
28 May 16#115
A man of few words and no explanations, eh ?
"Nor do you need ?"
Nor do you need to comment either.
thinkiwillhaveit
28 May 161#116
This one not bad with 63 Nm of power the Stanley is much weaker at only 51Nm its going to struggle getting screws in hard wood or something that tough.
I just changed and gone for a Makita that can kick out 91 Nm, major power lol might be a bit OTT but worth it in long run
kers
28 May 16#117
I don't need it either, but for that price I want it? lol
kers
28 May 16#118
Awesome price.. go get them boys and girls.. very tempted but I already own a few cordless drills.
teddybeers
28 May 16#119
You're right and am I.
I was trying to make things simple as most people don't know the difference in between Torgue, Power, Current etc.
Especially in drills world.
If you need drill for every day than this very good choice.
If only for occasional use don't buy it as this would be waste of the money.
Drill for £30 will do the same job.
At work we use only Bosch Blue drills and Impact drivers - about 30 of them in use.
Not a single one get faulty* after a couple of years.
No problems at all.
It's really handy to have the same type of battery and the charger for all of the tools.
* the only faulty one was left outside in the bucket. Rain filled out the bucket, drill was under the water for 10 days.
Battery died but the drill was fine after drying for couple of days.
MissKinks
28 May 16#120
Been looking for a decent combi for ages. Bought this one today. Thanks OP!
scanner
28 May 16#121
can you attach screwdriver bits to this and use it as a cordless screwdriver?
eastofthecounty
28 May 16#122
1.5AH Batteries wont last very long, hence the low price...
dezontk
28 May 16#123
Yep & extensions etc
bargainhunter666
28 May 16#124
I got banned ha ha so couldn't post - get to B&Q and do a price match and get a further 10% off or 10% of difference depending on staff member.
bargainhunter666
28 May 161#125
That has NOTHING to do with the low price or everyone would be selling it at a "low" price....Hope my input is better than yours.
YouDontWantToKnow
28 May 16#126
They last for 1.5 hours
The clue is in "Ampere Hours" = "Amp hours" = "AH"
YouDontWantToKnow
28 May 16#127
yes
snappyfish
28 May 16#128
As most men know... It's not how long you last, its how you use it that really counts! :wink:
eastofthecounty
28 May 16#129
Of course its do to with the low price.. The expensive part of all cordless power tools is the batteries, The same drill with 2 x 3AH batteries will cost significantly more
eastofthecounty
28 May 16#130
If only that was the case, depends what your using it for
YouDontWantToKnow
28 May 16#131
yep
if you are drilling concrete on hammer mode on high torque it will last less than using it as a screwdriver
In any case. It gives you 1.5 hrs x the two batteries for standard use & AH has a direct relevance to time.
bargainhunter666
28 May 16#132
That isn't what you are/were saying. Plus an hour is long enough seeing as the other will be on charge.
p.s anything with something extra will 95% (figure pulled from air) of the time cost more.
dezontk
29 May 16#133
Hot. Just got the Bosch Professional GSB 18-2-LI Plus LS (2 x 2.0Ah, L-BOXX) one from Amazon for £115 using "student discount".
"If you find any product even 1p cheaper anywhere else...we’ll refund the difference and give you an extra 10% off the lower price.
We’re so confident our prices in store are cheaper than our competitors, that if you buy a product from us and find the same product (or the equivalent in the case of B&Q Brand) available locally (within a 10 mile radius) for less - even if it’s a sale or special offer price - we’ll not just match that price but we’ll beat the lower price by a further 10% for your trouble.
All we ask is that the lower price is generally available to any potential customer on the day that you call back, within 14 days of purchase, with a proof of purchase. The price should be confirmed by internet, advertising, quotation or verbally from the Competitor. The product must be available to the general public. We do not Price Promise against: Retail, Wholesale or Warehouse Clubs requiring membership, Internet, mail order companies or TradePoint and companies within the Kingfisher Group e.g. Screwfix. Diamond Card and Staff Discount Card holders (including Group discount) can have a Price Promise or use their 20% Discount Card, not both. Tradepoint does not operate a price match policy with our competitors. (Tradepoint prices are lower or level with B&Q.)"
kers
29 May 162#135
So much misleading comments here.Why would you need this drill is the question you should be asking?
if you intend to drill lots of holes in bricks, concrete any hard masonry,then get yourself a cordless SDS drill that also have a normal drill /screw driver mode. done..
ajdj
29 May 161#136
Or get a cheap, corded SDS for heavy work (I got a McCallister branded one for ripping out a fireplace and it was great) and a good combi for everything else. There's not really a one size fits all tool, sometimes you need other items in your kit.
dealchaser888
29 May 16#137
hi, do you need to show any proof to the B&Q staffs? Thanks
andynicol
29 May 16#138
There are some though that don't see the need for multiple power tools, a combi falls into the category of being the 'all rounder' for such people.
An SDS is invaluable if drilling masonry, but this 18v Bosch is fine for smaller tasks, anything up to 7mm (brown Rawl plug) bigger than that I'd be looking to use an SDS.
whatupyo
29 May 16#139
Sorry to hijack the thread but for occasional DIY (most recent example is to fix a roman blind on a solid brick wall) can I go for a cheaper drill like this?
TheUrbis
29 May 161#140
Wrong.
On a 1 Amp load, that would be correct.
500mA load, 3 hours.
2A load, 45 minutes.
turbo_c
29 May 16#141
picked mine up today. bit odd but the guy behind counter opened it to show me the contents. is that normal? concerned that they might be palming off a returned one to me.
turbo_c
29 May 16#142
I noticed that you can sometimes see a spark in near the grill around the motor. is that normal?
mrhavana
29 May 16#143
I'm also tempted for the extra power and hammer action, but my 25 year old Makita 6071D is still going strong. I used it professionally for a few years, but now it only gets light DIY use. I bought a new 7.2V battery for about £14 a year or 2 ago, so probably good for another 20 years.
Voted hot as it's a good deal. I had a look around for deals when I was deciding on whether to replace the Makita battery, but couldn't find anything this good.
jnigel26
29 May 16#144
This seems too cheap. Odd
Odd. You could be right, this is cheap in comparison to elsewhere. I would check contents carefully, all businesses compete these days but if this is the drill package I think it is (retail £261+) then I'd be suspicious. But then lots of stuff now being made in the big C (China). Where is it made, check the box? This info is rarely given online.
I still like Stanley - (sorry Stanley Black & Decker to give it the correct co. name). But even their stuff sometimes eminates from the big C I think.
They probably have been burned by customers saying "there was only one battery inside"
I doubt very much Screwfix palms off used goods as new.
bargainhunter666
29 May 16#146
Well Screwfix is part of Kingfisher group which is what B&Q is part of so they should know BUT just show them online - get a member of staff you know that doesn't care.
dealchaser888
29 May 16#147
thanks a lot
bargainhunter666
29 May 16#148
Mine did exactly the same, said let me just check its all here. Made a point of pointing out two batteries.
bargainhunter666
29 May 16#149
one battery but bigger.
snappyfish
29 May 161#150
Did the same for me, it probably due to the crafty sods coming back saying "only one battery mate"
snappyfish
29 May 16#151
Mine lasted enough today and didn't worry as the other was on charge!! Hence why two batteries is good.
Sackboy1
29 May 16#152
Perfectly normal and nothing to worry about.
Happens with all brushed motors.
mbd
29 May 16#153
also picked mine up today and the lady behind the counter did the same thing (I didn't see her open it as I was talking to my son but when I questioned her as to why it was open, she said she just opened it now).
Bit odd, especially if I was buying it as a gift
turbo_c
29 May 16#154
thanks to everyone that mentioned that they also had their one opened by the counter staff. guess they must get a lot of dishonest customers. although I don't see how they could stop the same thing happening if you placed an online order.
Masquerade
31 May 16#155
I also had the case opened in the store, was told it was just to make sure all contents were present and that sometimes the extra battery is missing.
rizla01
31 May 16#156
Thanks for that.
I read your post today - 30 days after buying the Hitachi offer for £80 which I returned with the intention of getting this one but lucky(?) for me they had a slightly older (GSB 1800 18V 3Ah - now discontinued) model with a 3AH battery and slightly more torque but 1700rpm instead of 1900 rpm.
I preferred the torque setting wheel too, as it was bulkier and easier to grip than the one on offer here so I went for it.
One thing I did notice on both drills is that if you put drill in reverse, hold the chuck and depress switch to allow the chuck to open FULLY (Till it hits the stop) then while holding said chuck spin the drill in the direction to close the chuck the chuck lock mech grinds sometimes and you need to undo the lock (Turn chuck by hand) to stop it.
Weird.
I'm pleased the assistant opened both as the one that I was buying didn't have the belt clip but thanks to the assistant it ended up with the one from the new(er) box.
Dunno if it was meant to have one. :smiley:
Thanks for posting - Heat added.
jaizan
31 May 16#157
1 The box has a seal, so batteries cannot be removed after packing.
2 I would expect Bosch have a robust process for checking their packaging. All they need is video inspection just before the lid is closed & a machine that weighs each box before applying the seal.
3 Lying customers are a possible cause. A sad reflection on our society.
Char23
31 May 16#158
My three Li-ion Makita drills say I don't need this, but it's a good deal.
RedDevilWookie
31 May 16#159
Thanks OP just what I needed! Heat added! :smiley:
Anyone know if this will do ok with a concrete lintel/RSJ? Trying to put some curtain track up and don't fancy a wooden baton.
Djd1981
1 Jun 16#160
Can someone who knows more about these than me summarise the main differences between this one and this:https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-PSB-1800-LI-2-1-5/dp/B00L3XK06C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464769215&sr=8-1&keywords=bosch+combi+drill
Thanks
swatboy79
1 Jun 161#161
A lot: Torque 38Nm vs 63m, 1350RPM vs 1900RPM, 10MM vs 13MM Chuck, Weight 1.3KG vs 1.5KG.
The blue is better in every way.
PSB-1800-LI-2
Technical data
Battery voltage 18 V
Battery capacity 1,5 Ah
No-load speed (1st gear / 2nd gear) 0 – 400 / 1.350 rpm
Max. torque 38 Nm
Max. torque for soft/hard screwdriving applications 19 / 38 Nm
Torque settings 20 + 2
Max. impact rate 20.250 bpm
Drill chuck 10-mm keyless chuck
Machine weight with battery 1,3 kg
Screw diameter up to 8 mm
Drilling diameter in steel 10 mm
Drilling diameter in wood 30 mm
Drilling diameter in masonry 10 mm
[GSB18-2-LI]
Battery Power 1.5 Ah
Battery Type Li-Ion
Brand Bosch
Capacity Masonry 13 mm
Capacity Steel 13 mm
Capacity Wood 38 mm
Carry Case/Bag Included Yes
Carrying Facility Blow-moulded case.
Charge Time 50 min
Chuck Capacity 1.5 - 13mm
Chuck Type Auto-Lock
Colour Blue
Corded or Cordless Cordless
Manufacturer Guarantee 1 years
Max Torque 63 Nm
Model No GSB18-2-LI Plus
No. of Batteries Per Pack 2
No. Torque Setting 21
No Load Speed 0-28,500bpm, 0-500/0-1900 rpm
Pack Size 1
Pieces in Pack/Case 1
Power Drill Gearbox Speed 2-Speed Variable
Power Voltage Supply 18 V
Product Height 230 mm
Product Length 202 mm
Product Type Combi Drill
Total Product Weight 1.5 kg
Weight Excluding Batteries 1.1 kg
sunilm
1 Jun 16#162
does it come with it and if not which are the best ones to get?
ssc1
1 Jun 16#163
tsk, buy when it dies it be cheaper and better by then.
sijopol
1 Jun 16#164
Great deal and excellent drill - picked mine up today. Staff didn't check contents.
Liam5170
1 Jun 16#165
Can anyone recommend a good drill bit set to go with this?
amd12345
2 Jun 16#166
Good drill for the money, but I couldn't put up with the slow charge and small battery capacity.
I picked it up from a B&Q Extra store for £24 (had a credit note to use up) but it's not on B&Q's website. This is the professional set in a blue case, not the cheaper green sets they do.
swatboy79
2 Jun 16#168
50min Charger? Slow?
brendon83
2 Jun 16#169
great deal and excellent cordless drill
amd12345
2 Jun 16#170
Yea agree. Even though it's advertised as professional it would suit home use much better. Perfect for occasional use, cant go wrong. I'd get through the batteries in 20 mins at work though which means 30mins waiting for the other to charge.
karlbnz
2 Jun 161#171
This deal same drill with 2 x 2.0Ah li--ion Batteries for the same money:
The £89.99 is excluding VAT but good price at £107.99 including VAT with free bits.
BargainMad
2 Jun 16#173
Got the belt clip with mine but no sign of the bit holder .... can anyone confirm whether the bit holder should be present please ?
electrobovine
2 Jun 161#174
Nope not included.
BargainMad
3 Jun 16#175
Ok, thanks.
ss87
3 Jun 16#176
It's a better offer. It has a l boxx.
humperlumper
4 Jun 16#177
Is this a better deal cus you get the bits that are worth at least £20+with the better batteries?
ss87
4 Jun 16#178
The box that comes with it is worth £20 at least. Even if you don't want it it has a resale value on eBay. Lboxxes are very useful.
Jollux
5 Jun 16#179
Thanks for the tip, I went with your link instead of the posted deal as I thought it had very slightly better value. Cheers! (and to OP too!)
ajdj
8 Jun 16#180
Don't forget that you have to register your drill within 4 weeks of purchase to validate the 3 year warranty. You can do this on the Bosch Toolbox app.
Opening post
Comes with 2 x 1.5Ah Li-Ion batteries, 50min charger and hard case.
13mm auto lock chuck, 21 torque settings, in built light and optional belt clip. Functions as screwdriver, drill or hammer. Weighs only 1.5kg so ideal for overhead work.
Some won't like the 1.5Ah batteries but remember there are 2 included in the deal. Absolutely fine for the average DIYer. This is Bosch professional blue, so all metal body and a 3 year warranty (2 on the batteries) if you register it online. Hard to beat at sub £90!
If you've shopped at screwfix before look out for a leaflet in the post, mine had a £5 off voucher so got this today for £84.99.
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Bosch is more powerful, better warranty, and a proper brand.
This is so bloody tempting!
Lithium battery operated drills are getting cheaper, with most manufacturers producing brushless tools also, its pushing the price of decent non-brushless down, I'd wait until you Ni-Cad dies then replace, you'll get a better deal in a month, or 2, 6 etc etc
http://www.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/service/warranty/warranty.html
DEWALT DCD795D2-GB 18V XR 2.0AH LI-ION CORDLESS COMBI DRILL BRUSHLESS MOTOR (94484)
http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dcd795d2-gb-18v-xr-2-0ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill-brushless-motor/94484
Vs... OP's post offer here. Yes i know their is a significant price difference, is that equipment with added cost worth it?
For the people who want this as their only drill, you should really get a rotary hammer if you want to drill brick etc, even a cheap disposable one.
Very nice but... I have done anything during last year that I couldn't have done with my old £15 drill
This seems like a great deal, I doubt you could find an equivalent makita for similar money. If I was in the market for a new drill I'd go for this, bosch blue are a different beast to their green range.
Worx
If you're not bothered about 18v then the 10.8v sets are around £115- the Makita deal posted yesterday or Dewalt at B&Q until Monday. The Bosch 10.8v set is £135 at Amazon. I pondered over a 10.8v set but decided I'd rather have the versatility of an 18v with 13mm chuck. The Bosch is pretty light and not too big anyway.
Real power (Nm) comes from drill spec.
It's all about how efficient is the motor.
Voltage * Current = Power (of battery)
In this case 18V x 1.5Ah = 27Wh
Same drill with 4Ah batts gives you 72Wh
Which means that the drill with 4Ah will run 2.6 times longer than 1.5ah
http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/Bosch%202608594070%203165140849081%20103Pc%20Pro%20Drill%20And%20Driver%20Bit%20Set
It was also on the shelf of my local B&Q Extra for £24 but isn't on their website for some reason. Again, this is the blue professional set, not to be confused with the cheaper green boxed versions they do for £10-15.
Better pictures on this site- https://www.buyaparcel.com/p/bosch-26085940701-103-piece-power-drill-accessory-bit-set-includes-holesaw-masonry-drill-socket-flat-bits/?gclid=CKfRsoCn_MwCFVYo0wodrKILHg
4Ah battery cost about £40-£50 each
This drill is great for Pro's but needs bigger batteries.
Biggest one is 6Ah while 4Ah is standard.
For DIY is massive OVERKILL.
Lidl/aldi one for £20 is well enough for everyone who's not in trade industry.
Anyway.
Voted hot as this is really good price.
Usually is £99 for body only (no charger, batts, box)
It's big, bulky and heavy.
Also 18V series have more compatible tools with the same batteries.
For me, power tools is Bosch and hand tools is Halfords pro Advanced.
The bit set mentioned above looks great value, and is here on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bosch-103-Piece-Pro-Power-Drill-Bit-Set-Screwdriver-Set-Holesaw-Masonry-HSS-/131829536963?hash=item1eb1a718c3:g:7RUAAOSwUfNXSESH
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-PSB-1800-LI-2-1-5/dp/B00L3XK06C/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464431519&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=boSCH+GSB18-2-LI+PLUS+18V+1.5AH+LI-ION+CORDLESS+COMBI+DRILL+2+batteries+case
Can this drill a concrete wall thanks
Dewalt used to be 'the name' but their lower end stuff is no better than the B&D except with a 30-40% markup. Also, different tradesmen tend to have different preferences. Some love dewalt, others makita, bosch, etc.
To get back on topic. Two 1.5ah batteries is better than one 3ah. One is charging, while the other is in use.
If you're after a low torque drill, just buy this.
Is that your input to this site, sharing knowledge?
It certainly isn't deals you share. :laughing:
Nm is a measure of torque not power.
To get power, you need to multiply the torque by the angular velocity.
High torque can either be achieved via a high torque motor or gearing it down.
The more interesting question is what to buy. After several years, I'm still delighted with my Bosch 18v Green Li Ion drill.
Do I need a more robust, but heavier drill ?
But for a decent drill for average home DIY then this Bosch is hard to beat.
For masonary drill bits, I've found the Dewalt extreme 2 seem amongst the best.... often cheaper than this if I recall.
Ignore the silly comments
"Nor do you need ?"
Nor do you need to comment either.
I just changed and gone for a Makita that can kick out 91 Nm, major power lol might be a bit OTT but worth it in long run
I was trying to make things simple as most people don't know the difference in between Torgue, Power, Current etc.
Especially in drills world.
If you need drill for every day than this very good choice.
If only for occasional use don't buy it as this would be waste of the money.
Drill for £30 will do the same job.
At work we use only Bosch Blue drills and Impact drivers - about 30 of them in use.
Not a single one get faulty* after a couple of years.
I personaly own:
Drill GSB 18 V-LI
Impact Driver GDR 18 V-LI
SDS GBH 18 V-EC
Planer GHO 18 V-LI
No problems at all.
It's really handy to have the same type of battery and the charger for all of the tools.
* the only faulty one was left outside in the bucket. Rain filled out the bucket, drill was under the water for 10 days.
Battery died but the drill was fine after drying for couple of days.
The clue is in "Ampere Hours" = "Amp hours" = "AH"
if you are drilling concrete on hammer mode on high torque it will last less than using it as a screwdriver
In any case. It gives you 1.5 hrs x the two batteries for standard use & AH has a direct relevance to time.
p.s anything with something extra will 95% (figure pulled from air) of the time cost more.
Quote from http://www.diy.com/customer-support/policies/terms/?ecamp=Aff-78888&awc=483_1464478322_a742ee8cfbb6e6c2f8b4eac85dc6efe2
"If you find any product even 1p cheaper anywhere else...we’ll refund the difference and give you an extra 10% off the lower price.
We’re so confident our prices in store are cheaper than our competitors, that if you buy a product from us and find the same product (or the equivalent in the case of B&Q Brand) available locally (within a 10 mile radius) for less - even if it’s a sale or special offer price - we’ll not just match that price but we’ll beat the lower price by a further 10% for your trouble.
All we ask is that the lower price is generally available to any potential customer on the day that you call back, within 14 days of purchase, with a proof of purchase. The price should be confirmed by internet, advertising, quotation or verbally from the Competitor. The product must be available to the general public. We do not Price Promise against: Retail, Wholesale or Warehouse Clubs requiring membership, Internet, mail order companies or TradePoint and companies within the Kingfisher Group e.g. Screwfix. Diamond Card and Staff Discount Card holders (including Group discount) can have a Price Promise or use their 20% Discount Card, not both. Tradepoint does not operate a price match policy with our competitors. (Tradepoint prices are lower or level with B&Q.)"
if you intend to drill lots of holes in bricks, concrete any hard masonry,then get yourself a cordless SDS drill that also have a normal drill /screw driver mode. done..
An SDS is invaluable if drilling masonry, but this 18v Bosch is fine for smaller tasks, anything up to 7mm (brown Rawl plug) bigger than that I'd be looking to use an SDS.
On a 1 Amp load, that would be correct.
500mA load, 3 hours.
2A load, 45 minutes.
Voted hot as it's a good deal. I had a look around for deals when I was deciding on whether to replace the Makita battery, but couldn't find anything this good.
Odd. You could be right, this is cheap in comparison to elsewhere. I would check contents carefully, all businesses compete these days but if this is the drill package I think it is (retail £261+) then I'd be suspicious. But then lots of stuff now being made in the big C (China). Where is it made, check the box? This info is rarely given online.
I still like Stanley - (sorry Stanley Black & Decker to give it the correct co. name). But even their stuff sometimes eminates from the big C I think.
I passed the info onto a friend about this hotdeal and he came back with this!!!
http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb-18-2-li-plus-18v-4-0ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill/7434K?kpid=7434K&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%20Listing%20Ads-_-Sales%20Tracking-_-sales%20tracking%20url&cm_mmc=Google-_-Shopping%20-%20Tools-_-Shopping%20-%20Tools&gclid=CjwKEAjwpqq6BRC99aKUkaSjuDsSJAC0pNTVPXOxu8vfQSWmoHj-UWwxjfkOXjVPml51t85Z5OenmxoCrA3w_wcB
I doubt very much Screwfix palms off used goods as new.
Happens with all brushed motors.
Bit odd, especially if I was buying it as a gift
I read your post today - 30 days after buying the Hitachi offer for £80 which I returned with the intention of getting this one but lucky(?) for me they had a slightly older (GSB 1800 18V 3Ah - now discontinued) model with a 3AH battery and slightly more torque but 1700rpm instead of 1900 rpm.
I preferred the torque setting wheel too, as it was bulkier and easier to grip than the one on offer here so I went for it.
One thing I did notice on both drills is that if you put drill in reverse, hold the chuck and depress switch to allow the chuck to open FULLY (Till it hits the stop) then while holding said chuck spin the drill in the direction to close the chuck the chuck lock mech grinds sometimes and you need to undo the lock (Turn chuck by hand) to stop it.
Weird.
I'm pleased the assistant opened both as the one that I was buying didn't have the belt clip but thanks to the assistant it ended up with the one from the new(er) box.
Dunno if it was meant to have one. :smiley:
Thanks for posting - Heat added.
2 I would expect Bosch have a robust process for checking their packaging. All they need is video inspection just before the lid is closed & a machine that weighs each box before applying the seal.
3 Lying customers are a possible cause. A sad reflection on our society.
Anyone know if this will do ok with a concrete lintel/RSJ? Trying to put some curtain track up and don't fancy a wooden baton.
Thanks
The blue is better in every way.
PSB-1800-LI-2
Technical data
Battery voltage 18 V
Battery capacity 1,5 Ah
No-load speed (1st gear / 2nd gear) 0 – 400 / 1.350 rpm
Max. torque 38 Nm
Max. torque for soft/hard screwdriving applications 19 / 38 Nm
Torque settings 20 + 2
Max. impact rate 20.250 bpm
Drill chuck 10-mm keyless chuck
Machine weight with battery 1,3 kg
Screw diameter up to 8 mm
Drilling diameter in steel 10 mm
Drilling diameter in wood 30 mm
Drilling diameter in masonry 10 mm
[GSB18-2-LI]
Battery Power 1.5 Ah
Battery Type Li-Ion
Brand Bosch
Capacity Masonry 13 mm
Capacity Steel 13 mm
Capacity Wood 38 mm
Carry Case/Bag Included Yes
Carrying Facility Blow-moulded case.
Charge Time 50 min
Chuck Capacity 1.5 - 13mm
Chuck Type Auto-Lock
Colour Blue
Corded or Cordless Cordless
Manufacturer Guarantee 1 years
Max Torque 63 Nm
Model No GSB18-2-LI Plus
No. of Batteries Per Pack 2
No. Torque Setting 21
No Load Speed 0-28,500bpm, 0-500/0-1900 rpm
Pack Size 1
Pieces in Pack/Case 1
Power Drill Gearbox Speed 2-Speed Variable
Power Voltage Supply 18 V
Product Height 230 mm
Product Length 202 mm
Product Type Combi Drill
Total Product Weight 1.5 kg
Weight Excluding Batteries 1.1 kg
I picked it up from a B&Q Extra store for £24 (had a credit note to use up) but it's not on B&Q's website. This is the professional set in a blue case, not the cheaper green sets they do.
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