At over half a grand for a graphics card : I think I'll be happy to miss out.

Ive heard the founders edition throttles, so I think I would prefer the non-reference cards

1. These 'Founders Edition' cards are an early adopter tax. In the past, they cost less than nearly all non-reference designs. They are limited by insufficient cooling and power supply. Nvidia decided they could charge £90 over RRP because they are so dominant in the market. This is an extreme example of price gouging, and should not be rewarded.
2. Nvidia's launches follow a formula. The x80 card (780, 980, 1080) Is always released first. They can charge a great deal because it is marginally faster than anything else on the market. Shortly after, the x70 is released, and we see it has will be 85% of the performance, at 60% of the cost. Then it's another couple of months before the x80ti card is released, which is 40% faster than the original x80, for 15% more cost. The x80 then receives a price cut.
The 1070 will be released on June 15. Reviews will arrive tomorrow - I've already read one, and indeed, the 1080 is only slightly (15%) faster. It's more than fast enough for very high frame rates at 1440p in AAA games. The specifications for the 1080ti have also leaked, and unlike the 1080, it looks as though it may be the first card to crack 60fps at 4k. The RRP has already been set at ~20% over this 1080 card.
3. Are you getting the message? EARLY ADOPTER TAX.
For anyone interested in slightly cheaper offerings, AMD are announcing details of the 'Polaris' launch in the next couple of days. These cards should be significantly cheaper than the 1070, and not far behind in AAA 1440p gaming. Indeed, AMD has a massive major price-power advantage in DX12 games, such as Hitman, and the forthcoming Battlefield One.
The real reason to wait for AMD is that they support the Vesa Adaptive Sync / Freesync standard monitors, whereas Nvidia gouge another £200+ out of you for a gsync capable monitor. There is little difference in practice between the two standards. What is Adaptive Sync/Freesync/GSync? It's where the graphics card and monitor alter the refresh rate of the screen on the fly. If you've ever tried gaming without standard Vsync enabled, you'll know that when your frame rate rises beyond the refresh rate, you get tearing. If you enable Vsync, then if the frame rate dips, you get stuttering. Vesa Adaptive/Freesync/Gsync minimize both problems. It can transform your gaming experience. Gsync may be a little more capable, but the price is extortionate, choice is limited, and it limits the number of inputs on the monitor... and then you are tied to Nvidia. Freesync/VESA Adaptive Sync started off some way behind, but has improved substantially and now produces excellent results. IBM and others are adopting this standard, and we can expect it to be very common in future devices. Whereas, it's just a matter of time before Nvidia have to adopt the VESA standard to remain competitive. All they have to do is rewrite a driver. All that's stopping them is the desire to maximise GSync royalties before they inevitably cave in.


They can do this, just like they can charge £100 extra for an inferior card, just like they can sell the same people a 1080, then have them upgrade to a 1080ti, because they have briefly achieved market dominance. I'm not saying don't buy their stuff - I'm saying, beware the price gouging, and bear in mind the market will look very different in 3 months time. Check the relative price-performance of these things, and if at all possible, wait a couple of months for this market to settle down.

Or you could get a non-throttling EVGA GTX 1080 SC with the ACX 3.0 cooler for £580 from Ebuyer.
Even if you get the TCB, the 3rd party coolers are well worth the extra money.
They have an estimated delivery date of 30th of June, but I think this is just because they don't know the exact date they will arrive. I reckon it will be long before that.

I just ordered one :sunglasses: .

I wasn't comparing it. It's still GCN regardless.

What does Pascal give us that Maxwell never? (Apart from a die shrink). No architectural improvements whatsoever as far as I can see, except for improved monitor output specs.


These are the seven architectural improvements AMD brings:

Remember what you said, It's not a new architecture.
;-)

I don't think so... Why would you pay $100 more for a card AND $100+ for the aftermarket cooler?

Surely you could buy a non-FE and do the same?

AMD Polaris isn't a brand new architecture. It's an incremental release from the GCN released in 2011.

I would imagine that they mean the FE thermal and voltage throttles like crazy.
Aftermarket designs tend to have an extra power connector and adequate cooling to get reliable stable overclocks.

Stupid auto correct. I must spend more time looking at DIY or breast implants then graphics cards these days! :laughing:

Silicone or silicon?

You cant compare dual GPU cards

Top end single gaming GPU market varies a lot, has been about £300 before like 5870, and its been way higher 8800 ultra was like $800

I have tried it and I hate it but as you say, horses for courses.

You've changed your tune big time! You were talking about how Polaris was going to be so much better than the Pascal line. How async compute wasn't going into the Pascal line...

What else do we got? I mean, you're predictions are coming out pretty poorly yet again.

I see you have changed your tune to "Mainstream performance at a budget price".

Do you buy budget graphics cards? Last I checked, you ditched a Nano for the Fury X... Are you going to change to Polaris's midrange budget card?

This is a flat out lie or simply ignorance of the past.

Radeon 9800 XT: $499 (2003)
Radeon X850 XT Platinum Edition: $549 (2004)
Radeon X1800 XT: $549 (2005)
Radeon HD 3870 X2: $449 (2008)
Radeon HD 4870 X2: $549 (2008)
Radeon HD 5970: $599 (2009)

And that's just on the AMD side, NVIDIA have similar pricing.

And let's not forget Radeon's further venture into X2 cards.

And this isn't even considering inflation, $499 in 2003 is $645 in 2016.

So yeah, my point is that you simply don't know graphics cards from the past as good as you thought you did!

There have always been spendy options at the top end.

Horses for courses.

Although, I know a few people who were of a similar opinion. Until they tried it ....

I just have zero interest in it at all. I don't even want it in my house tbh.

The silicon is all the same. The top 10% will be held for Apple (who will pay top dollar) next will be all the ones that meets Sony's specs (bulk) and what ever is left will be slapped on a graphics card.

The reason AMD are hitting the mid range first is not strategic its just using its spare silicon they will have sitting about.

I don't know what you are talking about. The Founders Edition is not specially binned, it is no different than the non-reference in terms of OC'ability.

Where are you getting your recommendation from?

Just a troll ignore.

Cold
AMD will make a equivalent performance yet much better price point, also DX12 going forward AMD always had the lead

this can probably run 10 1080p's at the same time. you noob

So after all the times I see on here that PC gaming is superior they only just made a graphics card for 1080p?


Hahahaha console master race!

ultra settings [email protected]+ fps most of the time.

No point if you have the 980ti

the gtx 1070 reviews are out
bloomin eck, the 1070 dun good :confused:

The nvidia line is just the old stuff with a die shrink and minor support for a sync. The amd stuff is actually a new architecture that's going to have great price to performance.

There is of course the usual USD GPB conversion that's not helping us, however that applies also to the other nvidia cards, so relative cost stays the same.
The big reason though I think its due to Nvidia marketing striking again and the press sucking it up: Nvidia announced the MSRP of the card to 599$ but then priced the reference design (i.e. founders edition), i.e. the only 1080 that you could buy initially, at 699$.
So a worrying amount of the dedicated press decided to evaluate price/performance of the card that costed 699$ like it costed 599$, and assumed that 3rd party cards would come at that price point because the nvidia slides said so. Now that 3rd party cards are launching, while they are indeed cheaper than the FE they are far from being 100$ less, and understandably so, since they offer a lot more.

Sorry, I meant what is Nvidia not putting hbm in their upcoming GPUs based on

I meant that I will wait for the 1080TI as this is not worth upgrading from a GTX 980TI

I can only see 11% cashback on TCB, there is no 5% for bank holiday, Did I miss anything?

I appear to be one of the lucky ones. I get very little motion sickness and/or vertigo with it.

Only thing so far that's given me anything much in the way of motion sickness being EVE: Valkyrie. Which doesn't matter now as I've sold the Rift. Project CARS in VR (equally good on the Rift as motion control & room scale aren't required) is quite simply incredible. (Also using a Logitech wheel)

The fact you think the new PS4 will be priced the same as the current one with a new GPU is cute.

Totally agree, add to that the extra heat to dissipate in your case and the power consumption.
As an example, using the Cooler Master calculator for an average gaming rig: H60 Water Cooled i5-4690 with 2x 4GB DDR3 modules, an SSD, HDD, DVD-RW and 2x120mm fans
Using British Gas standard electricity tariff @ 12.63p/unit, based on 4hrs/day over 30 days = 120hrs.
Using iGPU: 201W Cost £3.03 (Year: £36.36)
Using Single "reference" GTX 1080 Cost £5.76 (Year: £69.12)
Using Dual 980Ti (SLI) Cost £10.46 (Year £125.52)
So as a very rough calculation you could expect to save £56.40 a year with a single 1080 without all of the SLI headaches. And it's not second hand.

Yes. Its overpriced crap. For the performance its giving out in comparison to 1070, the problems with cooling, inability to overclock because of that(unless the fan is running at 80+%, but that will be too loud). Yeah, as it stands, this card is crap. Its nowhere near to performance they were stating it is on anouncment day.

Bleurgh.... VR.

Why? It's a product that came out very recently and value for money is the best it's been... great time to double up.

Sure and it won't run any new games at maximum in 2 years. Go right ahead.

Running a 980ti + Skylake i7 + Vive. The 1070/80 sound good. But my current setup runs everything great, including the Vive. (Sold my Rift and jumped ship to the Vive. Better system as things stand.) I'm not running 4k when I go back to flat screen gaming. But everything runs nice at 1440p so I'm fine with that.

I'm not in any hurry to update. Maybe when second gen VR hits the market, that's when I'll look at upgrading the GFX card. If it warrants it.

Really? Gtx 980 is still £390. You'll be waiting a long time. Happy gaming

The PS4 neo will use an APU and not discrete video. You wouldn't want a video card like that your PC.

That's kind of not a proper aftermarket one. It's a reference board with a slightly different fan attached to it. I know because I have been considering that model myself.

And yes I can read but it's just that you can understand what I'm saying so you automatically assume that it must be someone else's fault.

Never buy a card as soon as it's released. Rule is to always wait a good 2-3 months for the supply to flood the market. After that point the price will hold until the next gen.

Same as most people. They are way overpriced. AMD are tapping up the mainstream this year with their new Polaris GPU'S that are the same to feature in the new PS 4.5 Neo will release soon.
Personally I will wait for that as my wallet will be much happier.

​Did you make £300 up? The completed listing have largely ended at £400+. Unless you meant you can buy a faulty card for less?

I'll wait 2 years & then this card will be around £200 Max.
Silly price for a GPU.

So the best consumer graphics card in the world is crap?

I am getting an aftermarket one, can you not read? My original post, which is still quoted above, states I'm getting the EVGA card with the ACX 3.0 cooler...

The road map posted above and leaks suggesting the 480 and 490 cards will be 8GB.

jumping on ref cards is not a good idea... wait until the sick coolers come out...

and I sold my 3 year old laptop for £750 to buy one of these. Horses for courses : )

I'd prefere so spend £619.99 on a new laptop.

What is this based on?

The performance increase from the 980 is good...less so than the ti. The 1080 has the best single card performace now as per the reviews but with the 1070 on the horizon later this month it may well have better price/performance ratio. Like most things...it will be determined by your budget and preffered resolution you game at.

Only you know. I don't think so.

I got the 980 stryx. Is it worth upgrading now?

I've got this card upgraded in a new build from Mesh Computers (£65 upgrade from a 980ti) with a delivery time of 10 days for the system,. Having seen the specs on the OC strix i've emailed them asking for a swap. Plenty of retailers state availability from 3rd June for the oc version so this should be within build time. I've been out of PC gaming for many years so its seems like a decent card to reignite my interest.

Hoping to pick up a cheap 960/970 once everyone is upgrading. If anyone has one second hand to sell give me a shout.

I just don't get why if you're in no hurry, you wouldn't just wait and possibly get a cheaper aftermarket version in a month or so. And clearly if you're willing to wait a further 5 days for ebuyer to pause scratching their balls and send it to you then you can't be in any hurry.

They're not putting HBM in their upcoming GPUs. They'll use standard GDDR5. Vega will be released later with HBM2.

I don't get it... AMD will be releasing lower priced, slower hardware. How can NVIDIA lose a round AMD aren't playing?

I think nvidia have lost on this round. Amd will have more budget friendly gpus with new tech like hbm etc.

if the 1070 holds as they have done it in these tests. why would you need this overprices crap?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yq7VVW76VY

The date is just a placeholder.
And "Oh no, not another 5 days for free delivery!!!11!!1!!"...
I'm willing to be patient to save a few quid, lol.

Why are you even in this thread? :laughing:

Screw VR.

Polaris isn't meant to compete with 1070/1080, it's supposed to give cheaper VR performance and power savings. Vega which I don't believe will be released this year, despite the rumours, will be the 1070/1080 competitor. GPU's just aren't that exciting these days sadly.

Founder Editions have overheat throttling issues and from a few youtube videos this could be an issue if you are unfamiliar with custom fan profiles and the chap that was reviewing it was doing so on an open workbench.

Id save the money and get better cooling solutions from the ones that will be released after, other than that its a pretty nice deal.

I am looking at the EVGA Hybrid card atm.

£100 over the odds in the UK, even factoring in VAT etc. Not only are these inferior cards in every respect, but you're getting gouged by Nvidia for being loyal enough to stick with their brand.

This crap is what alienates customers and makes them look for alternatives. Nvidia have forgotten their core customer base in the pursuit of rampant profiteering.

Wait for a 1070 from a reputable 3rd party manufacturer with superior power and cooling solutions, for slightly more than half the price. These aren't worth the bother, unless you have more money than sense and you're willing to pay a huge premium for some nebulous bragging rights.

Bit like AMD and their R9 3xx series that everybody was hoping to be a Maxwell killer.

Was finally hoping to buy my first Nvidia card but looks like it's a sit and wait game again for AMD's Polaris/Vega offering and see what they bring to the table. (My 4870 is so long in the tooth now).

Ah you young 'un. They used to be called Marathon and sold for 20p. :wink:
(oops showing my age)

Definitely - Elite is what sold me on VR. Even playing it with my GTX960 and current DK2 it totally blew me away from an immersion perspective. Once you are setup with voice command (to talk to your ship, e.g. "engage hyperdrive", "extend hardpoints" etc) and a decent HOTAS setup it's as close as i'll likely ever get to space :smiley: This is running with pixelated 1080p screens...when my consumer Rift arrives next month (alongside a 1080 :smiley: ) I am expecting great things. The performance is pretty bad right now, but the jump to a 1080 is huge from a 960 so it should do the job.

It does eat up hours though, at least at the time there was no "real world" clock in game so I would sit down intending to play for an hour, and then finally dock and exit and 4-5 hours had gone past. I tended to do more trading and smuggling than combat, but I hear that the combat is pretty good too once you get the hang of it :smiley:

Depreciation on these is insane. Some guy selling his 6 month old 980ti amped edition for 350 (probably let it go for 330). He paid 650. I'd get that over a 1080 any day.

SLI is horrible, though. ~2.2x the total cost for ~1.5x the fps, with the added drawbacks of added latency due to AFR and microstutters. And that's if it actually works, which it frequently doesn't.

That's like comparing the price of a house with a Picasso you want to put on the wall inside. It's just stupid.

No any 4core Intel from the last 5 years will be fine.

we're talking about a computer and what goes inside it... whats incomparable, is comparing it to the housing market, a bottle of fizzy and a snickers bar!

I remember when they were one whole Barr and 60p.

you guyz sure do entertain!

according to techspot, even an i5 does a good job against a monster i7 in Doom....

http://www.techspot.com/review/1173-doom-benchmarks/page5.html

I bought a snickers yesterday, King Size, brand new for £1. This video card is over 500 times the price!

Anyone else want to do an UTTERLY INANE comparison of unrelated items?

I'd imagine you'd need a Intel i7 6 core to get the best balance out of this type of card. Its a beast of a card though

Incomparable. Vostro is very low end consumer family PC type unit. These are 4K-powering monster processor units.

1. These 'Founders Edition' cards are an early adopter tax. In the past, they cost less than nearly all non-reference designs. They are limited by insufficient cooling and power supply. Nvidia decided they could charge £90 over RRP because they are so dominant in the market. This is an extreme example of price gouging, and should not be rewarded.
2. Nvidia's launches follow a formula. The x80 card (780, 980, 1080) Is always released first. They can charge a great deal because it is marginally faster than anything else on the market. Shortly after, the x70 is released, and we see it has will be 85% of the performance, at 60% of the cost. Then it's another couple of months before the x80ti card is released, which is 40% faster than the original x80, for 15% more cost. The x80 then receives a price cut.
The 1070 will be released on June 15. Reviews will arrive tomorrow - I've already read one, and indeed, the 1080 is only slightly (15%) faster. It's more than fast enough for very high frame rates at 1440p in AAA games. The specifications for the 1080ti have also leaked, and unlike the 1080, it looks as though it may be the first card to crack 60fps at 4k. The RRP has already been set at ~20% over this 1080 card.
3. Are you getting the message? EARLY ADOPTER TAX.
For anyone interested in slightly cheaper offerings, AMD are announcing details of the 'Polaris' launch in the next couple of days. These cards should be significantly cheaper than the 1070, and not far behind in AAA 1440p gaming. Indeed, AMD has a massive major price-power advantage in DX12 games, such as Hitman, and the forthcoming Battlefield One.
The real reason to wait for AMD is that they support the Vesa Adaptive Sync / Freesync standard monitors, whereas Nvidia gouge another £200+ out of you for a gsync capable monitor. There is little difference in practice between the two standards. What is Adaptive Sync/Freesync/GSync? It's where the graphics card and monitor alter the refresh rate of the screen on the fly. If you've ever tried gaming without standard Vsync enabled, you'll know that when your frame rate rises beyond the refresh rate, you get tearing. If you enable Vsync, then if the frame rate dips, you get stuttering. Vesa Adaptive/Freesync/Gsync minimize both problems. It can transform your gaming experience. Gsync may be a little more capable, but the price is extortionate, choice is limited, and it limits the number of inputs on the monitor... and then you are tied to Nvidia. Freesync/VESA Adaptive Sync started off some way behind, but has improved substantially and now produces excellent results. IBM and others are adopting this standard, and we can expect it to be very common in future devices. Whereas, it's just a matter of time before Nvidia have to adopt the VESA standard to remain competitive. All they have to do is rewrite a driver. All that's stopping them is the desire to maximise GSync royalties before they inevitably cave in.


They can do this, just like they can charge £100 extra for an inferior card, just like they can sell the same people a 1080, then have them upgrade to a 1080ti, because they have briefly achieved market dominance. I'm not saying don't buy their stuff - I'm saying, beware the price gouging, and bear in mind the market will look very different in 3 months time. Check the relative price-performance of these things, and if at all possible, wait a couple of months for this market to settle down.

Wait until tomorrow or you won't get the 5% extra. If you get any cashback at all that is. Risky.

True, but then again GPUs seem to use a lot more expensive components ....

But then again they are more mass produced...

Ahhhh I dunno!

We had the Dell vostro yesterday. A reasonable PC, brand new for £250. just this video card is more than double that......

You can't tell some people.

I have the HTC vive, with a GTX970 - considering the 1080 when they've been around a bit longer, not tried Elite yet - worth the money?

I could do the reverse, how much were computers? well over a thousand .....how much are they now? just a few hundred.... Look at monitors?, for the most basic was over £200 for a 14inch CRT!:neutral_face:

Look at the price of a house in London.

I think the word you are looking for is inflation.

How much was a 2 litre bottle of coke at this time?

Before we got the 1.75l ones of course...

How much was a litre of fuel? Etc etc

Not to mention that we have no competition in the high end market.

I'm just going to stick with my 970. NVIDIA are taking the **** with £620!

Don't remember the Matrox Mystique being that price.

Got a 970 for £150. Happy enough.

Yeah picked up a Zotac AMP for £300 on another forum, not too shabby.

back in the day, a top end card was £300, it's funny how nvidia have moved the goal-posts, where a £500+ card is only in the upper mid range of cards

and at 620 nicker, this is a deal is it?
my car cost less than that...heavens above :confused:

Founders but basically yes.

does the FE stand for 'Fanboy Edition?':laughing:

That's another reason why I'm on the fence about the Pascal cards right now. VR does not interest me in the slightest.

The cashback is 10/11% total. Not 16%.

:laughing:

No.

I can see the founders edition being worth sod all come upgrade time

A deal based on whether you get the cashback, sorry but this is no deal at all, cold as ice

True, however the fact remains the $599 or $699 list price in the US is excluding all taxes - its the same base price over here plus VAT on top. That was his point - not that the original list price itself is reasonable..it's not.

Regardless, i'm still going to buy one (a partner card, not a founder) when they are out in a few weeks - they may not help much for traditional gaming but its a must have for VR imo. Still rather amazed that HTC/Oculus claim a GTX970 is good enough..they can't have tried Elite at more than low quality settings :wink:

GTX 980TI > GTX 1080TI

where does it says 11% + 5% cash back on holiday? please show me because I'm going to buy this card now thanks

Except you won't most of the time because SLI is crap.

Government my ****, it's Nvidia's greed.

The UK government may be responsible for a lot of things but overpriced GPU's are not one of them.

Cold - only 10% discount available

Most over hyped technology product of the year. Expensive and doesn't deliver the hype.

Not sure if that happened with the 780ti, I think the new tech in the 900 series got taken advantage off. There might become a time in the future when the 1080 pulls way ahead of the 980 ti but there will likely be a new titan or ti by then. For now just crank up your ti and crack on :sunglasses:

Everybody seems to forget that $699 does not include tax. UK prices always include 20% VAT.

$699 + 20% = $838.80 = £579ish

Most states pay around 7% sales tax, so the americans will pay £515 for this card. A difference of around £60?

So blame the Government for the difference, not the manufacturer...

the 980ti with a 10% overclock still pushes doom at 60fps on ultra settings, price is just too crazy for the 1080 (a 980ti will set you back 350 or so second hand, buy 2 then youll have more power than the 1080)

I most likely will, only gaming at 1440 atm and it's more than enough for that. Fully expecting nvidia to begin gimping the 9xx series with drivers though.

Same price, 200MHz extra clock, Snazzy RGB, 30% cooler.

It amazes me that people on this site can be so stingy sometimes and then other times throw away money over a couple of weeks waiting time.

£620 for a graphics card...... pmsl..... in another dimension, that is an amazing bargain....

Personally I would keep it, every other generation is a decent upgrade unless money is no object

That's not so bad, got a fancy EVGA one so would hopefully get similar - if I bother selling.

More like £400, just picked up a 980 ti classified for £390

Wait for the STRIX beast :stuck_out_tongue:

Only £300?? Damn, maybe I'll just hang on to mine..

But the deal is for a FE regardless.

As people have said the FE are just standard stock coolers. No reason for them to be more expensive. Also $699 still doesn't equate to over £600.

The price is good but that delivery date is not. Plus they're quoting extra for delivery unless you're willing to wait a further 5 days.

Its not.

$699 for FE.

It struggles with Crysis 3 at 4k.

...but can it run Crysis?

OCUK state 3rd June for this particular model but I find that unlikely.

I would still prefer it from Amazon personally given the option.

Used 980Ti = £300. Buy two, SLI £600. Can't justify this kind of money to be honest. Jumped in on the 980 launch day and regretted it.

Heck maybe I'm just growing out of PC gaming. Still voted hot for price.

If you look at the pre-orders some say the 17th of june, some say the 3rd.... well at least one did

Sarcasm I hope. :smile:

1. It is now expected that the RRP for the 1070 will be £400+ (ridiculous I know).
2. The performance is unfortunately considerably lower than the 1080 at anything above 1080p.

I know and that's annoying because that is the one 1080 that I like the look of atm. An EVGA rep has stated clearly that those cards wont ship until 10th June at the earliest but OCUK are still quoting a dispatch date of next Friday.

I would avoid buying the 1080 at this point in time. the founders edition is just a reference design from nvidia that has serious thermal throttling issues. the 1070 is coming out very soon and isn't that far behind the 1080 in terms of performance for half the price. there have been leaks of a 1080ti in the works probably set to come out in a couple of months which will know the price of the 1080 down to £499. like maxwell, you either buy the 970 or 980ti, you don't get the middle card due to its price to performance being awful. my advice would be to wait until aftermarket editions of the 1070 arrive and get one of them instead or wait till the 1080ti arrives. Nvidia knew the price to performance of the 980 was shocking, why do you think they released the 1080 first...?

Tempted, however not really that much faster than a 980TI, only area this card excels is in VR. Still cannot run crysis at 60fps in 4k :P

Still voted hot. it is new tech after all :smiley:

This is just RRP and to rely on the Quidco is to take a huge gamble. I'm not voting cold but I also don't think this is a deal really.

If you're going to blow over 600 smackers on a video card then I would probably recommend investing in an EVGA one rather than ASUS as well.

Funny how $599 equates to over £600!!!

inno3d is the cheapest one without the ref blower

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno3d-geforce-gtx-1080-herculez-twin-x2-8192mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-n1080-1sdn-p6dn-gx-063-in.html

£549.95

The very cheap options are blower cards - its not worth it. If you really need a blower card just get the FE

​mid June according to EVGA

You can preorder a 1080 from one of the partners from £525+ on overclockers, they have every single company there!

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/search/index/sSearch/gtx+1080/sFilter_category/PC+Components/sSort/3/sPerPage/12/sPage/5

PS: buy Polaris instead :wink:

Both those things.

MSI Sea Hawk seems the best of the muchness for now.

Am I missing something? From what I've been reading about this card its supposed to be cheaper than the 980ti but offer better performance. All the articles I read on this card kept emphasising that. But this is more expensive [before cashback] than the 980. Is it because these are the first batch available and so demand a higher price or is it just a case of us in the UK getting screwed again?

Sadly not very good cards. Problems are the following;
Founders versions are simply reference cards but the reference ones are prone to throttling.
In spite of the throttling they and worse cooling performance they'll have compared to other cards they are also going to charge more for these versions simply because they released them before the custom cards.
They're also not good overclockers for the most part due to the throttling and this means older cards like the 980ti can catch up relatively easily.

Overall you're paying for marginal difference, to get throttled and for little overclocking room. In the end even if you wanted a 1080 you're better off waiting for the custom ref cards but it might be better to simply wait for better cards really.

Looks pretty cool, can't believe the price of graphic cards nowadays lol

...Anyone want to buy a 980Ti??

Given the modestly high return rate of graphics cards I wouldnt buy it from currys unless it was practically free. Everything Ive ever had to return has sat a minimum of two weeks in the store before they even shipped it for "repair".

At over half a grand for a graphics card : I think I'll be happy to miss out.

Review of the EVGA OC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ePLtROm6I

and a biased video of the Asus (benchmarks at the end)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv_B-zc0kcE

Even then just buy the MSI aero for £535 and the 3yr warranty includes cooler removal.

"All cashback rates displayed already include an additional 5% bonus".

So it appears that it's 10.6%/11% in total. Still not bad but not enough to warrant a hasty purchase for me. Will wait to see what the GTX 1070 brings and what else appears at Computex next week.

Also GTX 1070 NDA expires tomorrow so best thing to do is wait.

The ASUS has a slightly higher clock speed at base and OC.
It has 2 HDMI ports which is good if you want to use it for VR.

The EVA has 3 display ports compared to the ASUS with 2, but only has one HDMI.
It uses less power at 180W and it's £40 cheaper than the ASUS.

Apart from the specs, there's no review of the cards yet, so we shall have to wait until people get hold of them.

+1 Great card if you're watercooling.

Yeah hopefully. At the moment I've only seen people preordering the EVGA FTW and ASUS Strix

More competition. I'd hope so :smile:

Ok. The price will also decrease so sounds like a good plan!

I would wait til we have more custom choices and reviews.

I can get the ASUS for 99p more than my FE preorder :P

If you can get the asus just as fast its a no brainer.

Ok. Any suggestions which card to get? The ASUS looks good to me

Don't buy FE unless you plan on putting your own cooler on it.

This is houtukdeals we want more than what we pay for - hang your head in shame.

Can't decide whether I should keep my Founders Edition preorder or switch to the ASUS card.

I've ordered this one; https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-gtx-1080-directcu-iii-strix-gaming-aura-rgb-8192mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-401-as.html
Bit pricier than the EVA Superclock, but you get what you pay for.
ETA of 3rd June according to Overclockers. Not sure if this is accurate or not though.

The EVGA superclock uses the same nvidia refrence card with a different cooler. I have preordered this and expect it to be delivered 7th of June, it appears to be the first non refrence card out. However the non refrence pcbs should be even better.

Same issue, moved to quidco and had no issurs

Or you could get a non-throttling EVGA GTX 1080 SC with the ACX 3.0 cooler for £580 from Ebuyer.
Even if you get the TCB, the 3rd party coolers are well worth the extra money.
They have an estimated delivery date of 30th of June, but I think this is just because they don't know the exact date they will arrive. I reckon it will be long before that.

I just ordered one :sunglasses: .

Would consider if I even played PC games anymore. :disappointed: pro tip, never start an MMO, you'll feel jaded for months

If the cashback doesn't come through, this makes it just a bad deal.

10% quidco too for those who prefer it over tcb.
waiting for the 1070 myself, would make a good upgrade from my current 960.

Yep, nothing new with these blower coolers.

I'm tempted to try the tcb with the htc vive but I don't trust tcb
I've never had any of my claims approved and tcb is completely unhelpful
Edit : moot point anyway it's only on graphics cards

A shame they don't have the ASUS Strix, which is supposedly the better card right now.

Ive heard the founders edition throttles, so I think I would prefer the non-reference cards

it will be 10.6 for classic members and 11% for plus members.

+ 5% for this bank holiday.
The gtx 980ti was released roughly at the same price. Dont think it will come out too soon though.

it will be 10.6 for classic members and 11% for plus members.

+ 5% for this bank holiday.

10.6% here as well
remember cashback is never guaranteed
(although I once go it off Currys even when I returned the item!)

Dread to think what the Ti card is going to cost (£850-£1000?) :disappointed:

I'm seeing 10.6% at TCB for Currys (http://www.topcashback.co.uk/currys/) which would make the cashback around £65, not £99. Am I missing something?